But unless they go in with the 'patients' and hand over the keys to the Cop(t)s, it will be the inmates running the asylum.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 15, 2006 11:08 AM

That's it! Satellite TV is the problem.

A ‘satellite’ war of religions in Egypt - secretary of the Synod of the Coptic Church

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks at July 15, 2006 12:45 PM

the guards are good people, they should be rewarded.

Funny how Muslims who attack Christians are spastics when the other way round and they are just evil.

Posted by: IceDragon at July 15, 2006 1:31 PM

Disgusting bit of news indicating the sewer that the BBC has dropped into.

BBC gets a Muslim to ask: were Jesus's miracles for real? By Adam Sherwin, Media Correspondent

Rageh Omaar, the former Iraq war correspondent who wrote a book on his experiences as a British Muslim, will conduct a three-part examination of Jesus’s miracles.

Omaar travelled to the Sea of Galilee, looking at the historical and archaeological evidence for events such as the Feeding of the 5,000, Jesus walking on water and the Resurrection itself.

The series asks if the banquet of loaves and fishes was an act of mass delusion and if the crucified body of Jesus was thrown to dogs in a rubbish dump.

The BBC has said that it is committed to presenting all faiths equally. Last year Omaar presented his Islamic History of Europe and a new BBC series will examine the impact of the British Empire on the development of Islam.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2271202,00.html

Will the BBC commission a programme asking "Is Mohammad a paedophile or a mass murderer?". The BBC would have a panic attack just thinking about it, leave alone commissioning a programme by a Christian, Hindu or Sikh, on the Koran and Mohammed.

Posted by: DP111 at July 15, 2006 2:29 PM

Connecting the dots on Islam
By Diana West, Friday, July 14, 2006

If the will to resist allows us to manage the threat of violence, the will to connect the dots would compel us to eliminate it. How? By carefully examining and, I would hope, reconsidering and reversing, through foreign, domestic and immigration initiatives, what should now be seen, gimlet-eyed, as the Islamization of the non-Islamic world. Such an assessment, however, is all too vulnerable to catcall-attacks of "bigotry," even "Nazism" -- a deceptively inverted assault given the doctrinal bigotry and similarities to Nazism historically promulgated by the Islamic creed.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DianaWest/2006/07/14/connecting_the_dots_on_islam

As I've said for a long time, separation from the muslim world is the one sure way to safeguard ourselves, as well maybe, force muslims to jettison islam.

Posted by: DP111 at July 15, 2006 3:15 PM

The BBC did do an hour long documentary on Mohammed (you can find it and download it at the radio 5 website)and grasped the paedophilia nettle - leaving the last word to a Muslima whose voice seemed to tremble with mystic transport when talking about the old brute. She argues that if Ayesha had not been physically fully mature at the age of nine then, such was their culture, the Arabs of the time would not have stood for the outrage of Mohammed sleeping with a girl who was not ready for it. I had never heard such poppycock in all my life, and yet the presenter, Clive Anderson, a former barrister, didn't bother to make an issue of it.
Rageh Omaar, in one of his Muslim history of Europe documentary programmes, found it impossible to keep the pained anguish out of his voice when he had to talk about the expulsion of the Muslims from Spain.

Posted by: wallyUK at July 15, 2006 3:35 PM

Thankfully some Muslims do not follow the tenets of their belief fully. Actually treating dhimmis as people who have rights is remarkably tolerant for them.
After much searching over many years, I have come to believe that there is one religion that is good and right and the truth. In my search I have found that most religions have much that is good and right and true in them. Islam, however, is lacking.

Perhaps the jihad ideology should be classified as a mental illness and the Egyptian government should quarantine all its adherents. Of course, that would be millions of people.

Posted by Robert at July 15, 2006 10:04 AM

Islam, not just Jihad, is mental illness.

There are good Muslims. They are good because they are ignorant of, or do not practice fully, their beliefs.

Of all the major belief systems in the world, only
Islam is evil through and through.

Posted by: St. David, King of Georgia at July 15, 2006 6:04 PM

Most forms of Hinduism and Buddhism teach non-violence.

In the Jewish scriptures, King David is refered to as being a man after God's heart. But when King David wishes to build a temple for God, God forbids him—he has too much blood on his hands.

(King Saul is told he has disobeyed God and he will be replaced by another king. The Prophet Samuel tells King Saul, "The LORD has sought for Himself a man after His own heart... ...because you have not kept what the LORD commanded you." The Prophet then is sent by God to David, still a youth, and annoints him as king.)

The violence of Christians is often compaired to that of Muslims. There is a difference, though.

While Islam seems to glory in killing and is saturated with violence (see Quran, Sirat, Hadiths), Christianity has seen it as either a "necessary evil" or contrary to the faith:

While Jesus, the founder of Christianity, was teaching, he forbade retaliation telling his followers that if someone strikes them on the cheek, they should offer the other cheek for striking also. Another time, when Jesus was attacked, seeing his follower Peter draw a sword, he said: "Put your sword into the sheath." When he was struck and scorned, Jesus did not retaliate or try to rouse his many followers to defend him. Jesus also taught that one should love their enemies, that is, to treat enemies as if they are friends and family. Compare this with Mohammed's behaviour when he is struck or mocked.

Christians are taught to help and defend the weak, the oppressed, orphans and widows. Defending the helpless and righting injustice is perhaps the only justification Christians have for violence.

Among the Eastern Christians, those who devoted themselves to the faith—bishops, priests, monks, nuns, and so on—were forbidden weapons and violence. In the West this ideal was generally, but not strictly, kept.

In many of the oldest Christian rites, soldiers are prayed for in nearly every worship service. This was not because Christians glory in violence and war—the Christians are praying for God's mercy on those whose jobs are seen as both necessary for the well-being of the state and contrary to the Christian life.

Living these teachings has not been so easy for Christians. It is hard not to respond in anger to personal affronts and attacks. When personal gain and glory is at stake, it is easy to convince oneself that this or that wrong is justifiable. There are therefore many examples of Christians taking up arms for petty and unjust causes.

Violence in the history of Islam is keeping the teachings and example of Mohammed. Violence in the history of Christianity is a departure from the teaching and example of Jesus.

Islam seems determined to make everyone crazy or dead or both. Thankfully, some Muslims, like these guards, have not fully succumbed to the insanity.

If Christians are to defend and seek justice for the weak and helpless, defending dhimmis and preventing more dhimmitude seems to fit the description.

Posted by: St. David, King of Georgia at July 15, 2006 8:27 PM

St. David, King of Georgia,

Well Said!!!!!

Posted by: Provoslavni at July 15, 2006 8:47 PM

Posted by: St. David, King of Georgia posted :If Christians are to defend and seek justice for the weak and helpless, defending dhimmis and preventing more dhimmitude seems to fit the description.

Just one thing to add. In this war, or for that matter any war, defence is just one part of the war. To win, we have to take the war to Islam.

Posted by: DP111 at July 15, 2006 9:31 PM

have_mercy

Thanks for that information. Where have you been for the last few months. Good to see you back though.

Posted by: DP111 at July 15, 2006 9:51 PM

WallyUK

Rageh Omaar, a Somali, should have been grateful that Britain accepted him and his family from the hell-hole of a country such as Somalia. Britain gave him free education, free health care, and then a damned good and comfy job with the BBC that most would like to have, hates Britain and it comes out in every article he writes.

This is the position of a pampered muslim, a muslim who BTW came from the one of the worst countries in the world. One has to then ask, what of other muslims in the UK? They must hate the UK. The only good thing about this is that dont love us. If that were so, I would be even more worried.

I see no other way but a separation of muslims from the West. Not deportation or expulsion as that would be ethnic cleansing, but an exchange of populations - muslims in the West for the persecuted Christians in muslim nations - done over a period of time. It has been done before and has had international blessing.

Posted by: DP111 at July 15, 2006 10:03 PM

From the article: "Police said he was mentally ill." Yeah, right. That excuse, alibi, reason is getting real old real fast. They are too cowardly and too smart to admit that it is ISLAM.

Posted by: Pelayo at July 15, 2006 10:09 PM

DP111, often defending another requires offensive action. Helping those already in dhimmitude or the insanity of Islam would involve meddling in the internal affairs of sovereign states—hardly a defensive action.

Preventing more people from falling into this murky gloom will likely take preemptive action, i.e. war. Not just "peacekeeping" or a "police action", but war. No sane man likes war or the thought of war and tries to prevent it if at all possible. But when war is inevitable, men take the harnesses off their horses and replace them with saddles. They take their plows and reforge them into swords. Pruning bills work fine as they are.

Posted by: St. David, King of Georgia at July 15, 2006 10:58 PM

I wonder if the guards would have stopped him if this had not been a public attack...

Posted by: infidel4life at July 15, 2006 11:56 PM

St. David, King of Geogia,

"While Jesus, the founder of Christianity, was teaching, he forbade retaliation telling his followers that if someone strikes them on the cheek, they should offer the other cheek for striking also. Another time, when Jesus was attacked, seeing his follower Peter draw a sword, he said: "Put your sword into the sheath." When he was struck and scorned, Jesus did not retaliate or try to rouse his many followers to defend him. Jesus also taught that one should love their enemies, that is, to treat enemies as if they are friends and family. Compare this with Mohammed's behaviour when he is struck or mocked.

Christians are taught to help and defend the weak, the oppressed, orphans and widows. Defending the helpless and righting injustice is perhaps the only justification Christians have for violence."

Also Jesus does show that when it does come to anger and violence, and you do a good job pointing this out, to right wrongs, he shows that twice when he cleans out the temple of the merchants who had no business doing business on holy grounds and at the same time, charging high fees to people who too poor to afford the sacrifaces. Also he showed his anger when he told Peter who told him not to go to Jerusalem "to get behind me Satan!"

Also there is the very old Christian teaching of the "just war" theory of St. Augustine. These are strict guildlines that Christians must follow in order to fight in a war or for a Christian nation to observe. It looks like the Jewish nation of Isreal is keeping to the rules of the just war in this war against Hezbollah.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at July 16, 2006 12:36 PM

The news gripping the State of Maine is that a guy rolled a pig's head into a Mosque a few weeks ago. The newspapers are still ablaze with the injustice. The Governor just visited the Mosque to show solidarity. Federal hate crimes are forthcoming.

Quite a contrast.

Posted by: limes at July 16, 2006 5:37 PM