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Just overheard from a Lebanese Christian: "I would never say it publicly, but all the Christians in Lebanon are hoping Israel clears out Hizballah."
So am I.
Posted by Robert at July 26, 2006 11:02 AM
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Robert,
This confirms what I always believed, that the Lebanesse Christians have always supported Isreal and in a special way, at this time.
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at July 26, 2006 11:19 AM
There are those who, like Lahoud, are simply paid agents of Syria. There are others who know that there is no reason to publicly side with Israel, and a good reason -- violent retribution -- not to. So support for Israel, or if not support at least secret pleasure that the Israeli forces are doing what no one else in Lebanon dares to try to do, which is to remove the Hezbollah threat from both Israel and from Lebanese society, is widespread not only among Christians, and not only among Druze (read carefully the statements of that mercurial truth-teller, Walid Jumblatt), but also among, one has reason to believe, the old Sunni elites who, like their counterparts in Baghdad, are horrified at the sudden emergence of Shi'a power, horrified to see that the Shi'a have been reproducing faster than any other group (in the same way that Muslims in the West reproduce faster than any non-Muslims, and deliberately so, as so many remarks, from Boumedienne on, make clear -- demography is a clearly-understood instrument of Jihad).
Posted by: Hugh at July 26, 2006 11:24 AM
Amen.
Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at July 26, 2006 11:59 AM
Christians are next if Israel falls. ALL maslems (I'll say it again) ALL moslems want all people to be moslems or dead. its what islam says. If a person claims to follow islam as it NOW, they have to think this.
sad
at July 26, 2006 12:58 PM
My nitpick for the day:
Robert
I thought that unlike the Lebanese Christian you overheard, you do say it publicly. And rightly so, too.
the old Sunni elites who, like their counterparts in Baghdad, are horrified at the sudden emergence of Shi'a power, horrified to see that the Shi'a have been reproducing faster than any other group (in the same way that Muslims in the West reproduce faster than any non-Muslims, and deliberately so, as so many remarks, from Boumedienne on, make clear -- demography is a clearly-understood instrument of Jihad). Posted by: HughLast thing I want is for the overall Muslim population to grow, but I do hope that within dar-ul-Islam, the Shia % grows to, say, 40-50% of the total Islamic population. In Iran, the way that country became Shia was after the Ilkhanate Islamized to Shia rather than Sunni Islam, forced all Iranian Sunnis to embrace Shia Islam, and attempted to spread it by conquest.
Now, let that model be applied to Iraq, Syria (by Shia and Alawite), Afghanistan (Hizb ul Wahdat - the Hazara party of Karim Khalili), Tajikistan (which derives its inspiration from Iran, and whose Shiaization can be followed by a similar attempt on the Tajiks in Afghanistan, making it an even split along Shia-Sunni lines). Also, overthrow the Bahrein sultanate(?) and have a Shia regime there trying to destabilize Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and UAE.
Then watch all the fun.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 26, 2006 1:26 PM
I will never say it publicly...
This is the 6th Pillar of Islam, the pervasive threat of personal murder for not kowtowing to Islam and Moslems in one's sayings and deeds.
This is why Christians as a percentage of the total Lebanese population has plummeted so the past century.
Maybe they should start making public statements about Islam and Moslems.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at July 26, 2006 2:26 PM
I will never say it publicly...
This is the 6th Pillar of Islam, the pervasive threat of personal murder for not kowtowing to Islam and Moslems in one's sayings and deeds.
This is why Christians as a percentage of the total Lebanese population has plummeted so the past century.
Maybe they should start making public statements about Islam and Moslems.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at July 26, 2006 2:26 PM
InfidelPride--correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that Iran opted for Shi'ism when the Safavids took over. Similarly, I also understand that before Saladin, the Shi'ite Fatimids dominated Egypt. It seems, then, that sectarian change in Islam is a possible result of political upheaval.
Posted by: Kepha at July 26, 2006 3:02 PM
I am glad this is being reported. For an outside observer like myslelf it is really difficult to find out what is happening right now. The MSM is showing Israel bombing civilians with no explanation. It is good to hear something other than the official propoganda.
Posted by: pissedoffcanadian at July 26, 2006 5:06 PM
offcourse they are siding with Israel. They would siding with everybody else also, cos nobody wants to live wih the muslims. And only muslims dont give a damn "why".
Posted by: svemirko at July 27, 2006 3:03 AM
Michael J. Totten has an interesting article regarding the possibility of future sectarian violence in Lebanon.
Note the photograph of Christian Lebanese attacking a car displaying the Hezbollah logo.
at July 27, 2006 3:38 AM
I have friends who are Lebanese Christians and all are very outspoken against Islamic terrorism and are supportive of Israel. Of course they can probably only be outspoken now because they live in America. If they were in Lebanon, Hezbollah would kill them for that.
Posted by: Spiro at July 27, 2006 5:04 AM
The problem of islam is its fundementally hijacked to be a tool to invade to whole world. Islam should be treated in the likes of Democracy, Nazism, & communism. It is no longer a religion.
Also, there was a post about Malaysias hosting a Inter Religious Faith forum that was distrupted.
The latest was the goverment wants to stop it:
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/7/26/nation/14951573&sec=nation
http://www.dapmalaysia.org/english/2006/july06/lge/lge404.htm
Remember, the earlier Prime Ministers declared that malaysia was NOT AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY & Discussing about the Airticle will hurt the religious integration?
Hence, its true.
1. They say nothing & declare that a country is not islamic.
2. Once they gained more muslim population & power, they declare that the country is Islamic.
3. Soon, everyone would be muslim or face heavy fines/taxes & subjected to degratory acts.
Asia is almost done in 100 years, It will be Europe next.
at July 27, 2006 5:58 AM
And these Lebanese are willing to wait until Heck freezes over, if necessary, for someone to come in and fix their country? Where were the big marches in Beirut when The Party of Satan was raining missiles on the Jews and Arabs to the south? If the Lebanese shrug when their country is used by murderers to murder others, saying "bravo" when the nest of vipers is smashed is hardly worth much to me.
If several million Lebanese citizens advanced on Hezbollah strongholds just waiving clubs they would be doing more to help their country than fleeing overseas and going on TV to tell us how sad it is their beautiful homeland has been taken over by fanatics.
The whole region will be taken over by fanatics because too many of the normal people are waiting for someone else to fix their problems. Double ditto for the so-called moderate Muslims. If the religion and the culture can't motivate the majority to action in defense of their own freedom it's probably not worth worryin about. Why spend billions for laser-guided weapons when the vast majority of those most directly affected by the poisonous ideas don't care very much if they succeed or fail. It's one thing to express a mild opinion on your freedom, it's another to do something important to get your freedom.
Posted by: tscottme at July 27, 2006 5:15 PM
To my Christian friends in Lebanon:
I am so grateful for your steadfast support of Israel and her right to exist. I am thankful that you have not thrown your support to the terrorist Hezbollah organization. I pray for you all and hope that no injury comes to anyone in the Christian part of Lebanon. If the end of Hezbollah makes your lives more liveable and safe, I pray Israel finishes the job this time. G-d Bless. DK
Posted by: dk4hypnos at July 31, 2006 6:10 PM
To tscottme: Yes, wouldn't it be wonderful if the Christians in the North held protests against Hezbollah, so that the news agencies would realize that Lebanon is not just Shite radicals. This country belongs to Sunnis, Druze and, of course, Christians. The world doesn't even know Lebanon belongs to this population, because they have left in fear or are too frightened to stand up to these vicious terrorists. Where is a
Christian militia when we need one to join with Israel, so the world can see the truth? DK
at August 1, 2006 12:30 PM
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