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August 24, 2006

Michael Graham: The tragedy continues

In "The tragedy continues," Michael Graham (thanks to Mackie) reflects on the dhimmis who fired him a year ago, and the ongoing (and growing) problem that authorities still refuse to face:

One year ago this month, I was fired from my talk radio job by ABC/Disney for saying on the air — and in these pages — that "Islam is a terrorist organization."

My argument was very simple. Any organization that allows terrorists to operate freely in its name; whose ideology is, rightly or wrongly, used to justify and promote terrorism; and whose membership includes, according to every international poll, hundreds of millions of devotees who suppoIrt suicide bombing — that organization has a unique problem with terrorism.

That's what I said. ABC ordered me to apologize for it. They insisted I perform community service as a form of penance for it. I told them I would never apologize for telling the truth, and they fired me.

One year later, I'm back on the air and I haven't changed a bit.

The problem is, neither has Islam.

One year ago, I reported in horror that approximately one in four British Muslims told pollsters that, if they knew about a terrorist plot targeting their fellow British citizens, they would not report it to the police. "Troubling," I said at the time, but not as bad as actually supporting terrorist attacks.

Now, a new poll shows that about one in four British Muslims support suicide bombings, that the 7/7 attacks in London were justified. Nearly half of British Muslims today believe the 9/11 attacks on New York were a conspiracy involving the US government and Israel.

These are Muslims in Britain. Not Baghdad, not Bangladesh, but living in the heart of the modern, Western world.

Read it all.

Posted by Robert at August 24, 2006 2:36 AM
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Assalamau-Laikum all,

Michael's assessment is an assement of 1...an opinion. But other kafur are starting to say similar disguisting things...

The problem here is one of re-enforced negative feedback ...never ending and it is not so surprising that muslims are saying/doing such things.

Consider these messages to a child in a boot camp for example..."you Fu*cking hopeless excuse for a scout, you worthless spec of dirt, you butterfingers...etc". By the time boot camp is finished this possibly bright student will not even be able to hold a pen without dropping it 1st.

This in effect is what has happened to muslims and Islam since about the fall of the mogul empire. The peoples who gave you numbers and early science...they have been robbed of their positivity by you ...the Kafur.

All the constant attacks, be they verbal, physical and through the media. A constant barrage on an individual basis, on the community in each country and on the Ummah as whole ...dengeneratiing down to Islam itself.

Given this attack of several hundred years, "Are you peoples REALLY surprised at the lack of integration and the anger?"

The message fro Allah is a very powerful one, of positive reinforcement of good and powerful, being the best of breed.

So, come on peoples...how about a bit of positive feedback for a change...tell Michael to go to hell and be friends with a positive message to muslims in your local community.

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 4:40 AM

Naseem's writing style and spelling changes with each post. I guess this is normal.


Posted by: pr126 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 4:50 AM

Greetings all, I have not posted for a very long time as life has not allowed me, I have recently returned from Thailand and got quite the education on Mohammedian behavior. Which leads straight to my point, that Islam is pathological. Michael Graham is right and Naseem is wrong. Naseem take your Taquiyya and the rest of your b.s. and go away, no one is buying, least of all me. You bring out the same tired tripe about oppression this and that, and how there are decent Muslims.And how us kufirs are so-mean to you Muslims.

Please find me a decent Muslim,I have never meet one yet.Every Muslim I have ever met is a congenital lier. How is it that every where Muslims are, they are in conflict with themselves and everyone else? The blame Israel, America, Britain b.s. doesn't cut it.Blaming outside oppresion doesn't cut it anymore, something in very essence of Islam is the cause of all this. Here is a short, partial list of places where Muslims have been behaving badly as of late, Kenya,Israel,Ethiophia,Iraq,Lebanon,Israel,France,
England,USA,Italy,Belguim,Malaysia,The Phillipines,Canada,Thailand,Indonesia,Australia,
India, Pakistan,Afganistan,Russia, Serbia/Kosovo, Macedonia,Germany,Sweden,Netherlands, Trinidad and Tobago,Alabania,Iran, Somalia,Egypt,China, Algeria,Spain, Turkey,Sudan,Eritria and on and on. Please answer without blaming Kufirs. Your enemies and victims include, Prostant,Catholic, and Orthodox Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhist, Animist,Secularist, pretty much 4/5s of humankind. Do you see a problem with that Naseem; does it ever give you pause?

How does Thailand and the vile behavior of your co-religionist there fit with the Muslim whining about oppression?As far as I can tell the Muslims are the aggressors in Thailand. What did Buddhist monks and peasents do to the Muslims, except be alive and live as non-Muslims? Are they part of some Zionist conspiracy to defame and oppress your precious religion and your rancid prophet too? Muslims look for any excuse to kill and enslave and humiliate kufirs.The Thai have tried to accomodate Muslims and are in general a decent people. The Muslim behavior there is particularly inexcusable and vile, because of unprovoked nature of it. Muslims are vicious cretins and I am sick and tired of them always blaming everything and everyone else for their sins and hate. Islamic terrorism and attendent mistrust of Muslims is your problem Nassem, not mine! Micheal Graham is right. I am glad he is back.

Posted by: abdulalshirk [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 5:35 AM

Mohammad tells muslims not to take ... the Kafur ... as a friend.

Mohammad said to fight ... the Kafur ... until he submits to the will of Allah.

Are you going against Mohammads word?

Posted by: Jack [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 5:44 AM

Naseem,

The truth is that all the problems members of the Muslims community is now facing is because they have brought the problems on themselves. It is time for the Muslim community to stop passing the buck and start accepting responsibility for a change. A responsible community works to weed itself of the bad apples and are not afraid to turn them in to the propper authorities. The Muslims communities have not done a thing and this is why the non-Muslim communities are getting fed up and are now starting to take there communities and countries back.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 6:40 AM

abdulalshirk,

"How does Thailand and the vile behavior of your co-religionist there fit with the Muslim whining about oppression? As far as I can tell the Muslims are the aggressors in Thailand."

That point cannot be stressed enough. Needs to be trumpeted far and wide. Has the potential to shatter the anti-colonialist narrative of any Leftist willing to give it just a hearing.

Posted by: ZionistYoungster [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 7:09 AM

Mic hael Graham:
Rather, the tragedy is that, nearly five years after 9/11, Osama bin Laden is still a member in good standing of the Islamic faith. He has not been declared apostate. His theology has not been denounced as heresy. The Koranic verses used to inspire his murder have not been reformed or re-interpreted. His supporters have nIslam, like Catholicism and Protestantism and Buddhism and every other "ism" has a duty to confront evil. To fight it, to oppose with both the force of ideas and, when necessary, the force of arms. Merely clearing one's throat and saying "Well, those terrorists aren't my kind of Muslim, harrumph" isn't enough. ot been cast out of their local mosques.

Very difficult to argue with such statement.

In Jihad Watch on 21 and 22 of October 2005 I pointed to the fact that Hitler died catholic. I was not very popular with some of the contributors on JW. Thanks to Archimedes, who came to my support, I did not feel totally isolated. I also suspect that Archimedes’ support being intelligent and iformative made other people to think twice to attack me.
Yet, the question remains: if Catholic church did not excommunicate Hitler, how the people who follow catholic faith can demand from Muslims to issue a fatwa against Bin Laden.
Is there a way to do such thing posthumously?
And if there is, some "Saints" should join him, starting with Konstantin and other murderers.

Posted by: pong [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 8:24 AM

Naseem,

The number system and 'early science' were Hindu and Greek respectively. Helenic and Vedic culture were appropriated by Islamic conquerors.

Inshallah fatalism isn't conductive to scientific progress. Neither was the intellectual stranglehold the Church had over western thought, once that was relaxed we carried on where the Greeks left off.

Don't blame the success of west for the failure of your culture. Do you hear the Chinese moaning? they had some of the most influential technologies hundreds of years before either the Christian or Islamic world.

Posted by: QueeQueeg [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 9:24 AM

Yup, unchannging and disgusting Islam.

Thank goodness Michael "speaks truth to power".

Apparently the robotic Islamotroll is annoyed,
probably feeling rotten that it's mate is in Hell
with the pedophile cult leader. Hopefully it and
it's offspring will be reunited with the whole
damned bunch soon, inshallah.

The good news is that the troll is right, more of
us are realizing what's going on. But far too few still, so if you're out there spreading the word
and doing counter dawa, redouble your efforts.

Posted by: root_cause [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 11:06 AM

In an article I saw posted on the al-Jazeera website yesterday(http://www.middleeastforex.com/index.php?section=362&module=navigationmodule), it appears that a substantial purchase of US assets is to be made by Gulf states, particularly Saudi Arabia, the UAE.

If assets includes media outlets, what chance will there be to effectively receive the news, to be properly informed on the issues facing society? This of course is a rhetorical question, particularly given the recent support of the President of the United States for a bid by UAE interests to take over management of US portlands.

Mr. Graham's perserverance is an example for other individuals devoted to cultural heritage of the West, ever more clearly under siege. THe choice is also becoming more clear: Speak up or lie down.

Posted by: Chatillon [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 11:35 AM

To the Muslim poster above;

how does one work with this as a non Muslim?? Of course we know the answer but tell us in your words again.

Please do not practice the art of taquiya, and kitman on us in your reply.


Sura 9:16 (God knows those who strive with all they have, and don't make friends with or seek protection from non-Muslims)

Sura 9:19-22 (Jihad is greater than other service, and of the highest rank in the sight of God)

Sura 9:29-31 (fight against Jews and Christians until they are subdued, because God's curse is on them)

Sura 9:38,39,41 (Don't avoid fighting, but fight with whatever you have. Otherwise God will punish you with serious punishment.)

Sura 9:52,73 (Muslims can expect either martyrdom/paradise or victory in battle. Unbelievers can expect only punishment from God. Fight hard against unbelievers, whose abode is hell.)

Sura 9:111 (God gives Paradise to those who give all they have to God and slay and/or are slain in Jihad.)

Sura 5:36-38 (death or torture to those who oppose the Apostle)

9:50 (& 4:283) Ali said, "... no Muslim should be killed ... for killing a kafir (disbeliever)." [In other words, killing a non Muslim is not murder

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 12:12 PM

Naseem, you're saying Muslims are like children that, without proper guidance from adults (the kaffir), will misbehave. How can this be? How can mere words from "the worst of creatures" affect the "best", in either a positive or negative way?

Posted by: saturnine [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 3:07 PM

The poster Nassem above paints a story of inoffensive Muslims, who merely have begun to take offense at their portrayal in the Western media and popular imagination. Nonsense. The Jihad as a duty is as old as Islam itself. The division of the world between Believer and Infidel is as old as Islam itself. The need to treat non-Muslims with contumely, at best, and with murderous hostility and mass murder at worst, begins in the earliest days of Islam. Islam itself may be seen as a concoction of pre-Islamic pagan Arab lore, and stories from both Judaism and Christianity, seldom understood accurately, but appropriated, mixed up, and then served in a stew of "Islam" that served to both justify, and promote, the conquest by Muslims of much more settled and advanced non-Muslim populations.

Well into the 19th century, that is for more than twelve hundred years, Muslim governments relied on the revenues furnished by the Jizyah, the tax imposed on the non-Muslims who continued to live in the lands the Muslims conquered. Only when European powers arrived -- as the French in Algeria in 1830, and later in Syria/Lebanon, and the English, with their use of naval power in the Gulf to suppress the slave trade, and their arrival in Egypt beginning in 1882 to improve the civil service and, not incidentally, to ensure the proper functioning of the Suez Canal, and then their mandatory authority in Mesopotamia and Western Palestine (and, come to think of it, in Eastern Palestine -- the Emirate of Transjordan -- as well), did the infliction of the Jizyah on local non-Muslims stop, where it did stop. But after the British and French left the area, the Jizyah -- seen as an imposed (psychologically imposed) transfer of wealth to Muslims by Infidels -- continued, this time disguised as foreign aid. That foreign aid is treated by its Muslim recipients as theirs by right, and it is treated in similar fashion by those who give it, and who are apparently afraid to diminish or eliminate it altogether, out of fear of the Muslim reaction. These attitudes define the giving, and taking, of the Jizyah. In some Muslim countries, the Jizyah continues in a different disguised form -- not foreign aid from Infidels, to whom no allegiance or alliance or even friendliness is owed -- and that is the Bumiputra system in Malaysia, a kind of tax on all non-Muslims (chiefly Chinese and Hindus) that was put in place after the British left, and only put in operation as the Muslims gained in demographic strength, and in faith-based fervor.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 3:36 PM

Pong,
Hitler completely and totally renouced his faith, he was hardly a Catholic. I don't know where you got that one from or why it is relevant....

I guess the big questions is why bring something so off topic up? Certianly no relevance to what the article was. I guess just sneaking in a little anti-Catholicism????

The SS drew heavily from old norse mythology and other pagan practices...

Posted by: adobe [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 7:42 PM

I was not very popular with some of the contributors on JW. Thanks to Archimedes, who came to my support, I did not feel totally isolated. I also suspect that Archimedes’ support being intelligent and iformative made other people to think twice to attack me.

I guess you some sort of hero then????

No one is attacking you personally but your outrageous statements, which must be called out for the nonsence that they were....

Posted by: adobe [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 7:48 PM

OTP but I still think the fight should be taken to the opposing camp and greater publicity given to the argument that there is something rotten at the core of Islam.
A seminal image in the history of western Xtianity is that of Martin Lutheer nailing his 95 theses to the door of the castle church in Wittenberg. This event, in 1517, is generally taken as the starting point of the reformation although his propositions were almost entirely concerned with the sale of indulgences. It would therefore be something that resonated with at least the educated public, if people were to start pinning or sticking 95 'reasons why islam is not a respectable religion' to mosque noticeboards, doors, walls or whatever.
I've got up to thirty so far but I think I should have no trouble getting to 95. Anybody else fancy having a go as well?

Posted by: wallyUK [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 8:55 PM

This in effect is what has happened to muslims and Islam since about the fall of the mogul empire. The peoples who gave you numbers and early science...they have been robbed of their positivity by you ...the Kafur.
Posted by Naseem

Naseem, that's pure bunk. How could the "best of people" , allah's beloved minions, the rightful rulers of the world, be so weak, spineless and ineffectual that they could sink to this level of indignity and shame? I'll answer that for you---because it's easier to live in the imaginary glory of the past and blame the West for the failures engendered by islam. As long as muslims wallow in a retrograde, archaic, stagnated culture of failure, fatalism, death, hate, and hostility, they will continue to suffer the inevitable consequences. If the inhibitions, restrictions, prohibitions, and downright asinine limitations imposed by islam were jettisoned immediately, the results would be amazing. Don't blame us, blame yourselves for falling prey to muhammad's lies and perversions.

I would advise some introspection because the rest of the world will never surrender to your death cult. We've come too far to sacrifice centuries of progress to the primitive, evil forces of islam.

Posted by: Susanp [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 10:43 PM

Adobe,
To understand the relevance you have to go back to archives (21.10-22.10) and read it.
There are good links provided by Archimedes.
From my statement it is quite clear that the “hero” is Archimedes and not I.
I am not “sneaking in a little anti-Catholicism”. I am openly against any organized religion and made it very clear in my posts. I am against criticizing Islam from a position of other religion.
In my previous posts I tried to explain the reason behind the militancy of Islam and nobody argued with me, so I was probably right.
It is difficult to make a statement on this site and get away without supporting it.

“Hitler completely and totally renouced his faith, he was hardly a Catholic.”

When and were did he do it?

“I guess the big questions is why bring something so off topic up? Certianly no relevance to what the article was.”

No excommunication for Hitler, no fatwa against Osama.

“No one is attacking you personally but your outrageous statements, which must be called out for the nonsence that they were....” I guess you some sort of hero then????”

Sounds very personal.

“Yet, the question remains: if Catholic church did not excommunicate Hitler, how the people who follow catholic faith can demand from Muslims to issue a fatwa against Bin Laden.”

That was my statement. Please, attack this “outrageous statement”. I’ll be happy to admit it was wrong and apologies.

Posted by: pong [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2006 11:44 PM

Folks,

Last night when I was for a short time before going out early evening, had seen some of the CBS Evening news. I caught sight of a news report of this small UK town which had as its residents a number of the persons who were planning to blow up those airplanes on their way to the USA. A local town representive who is Muslim was talking as if he was stunned and in disbelief. The same old song and dance. Even the brother of one of the terror planners was interviewed. The terror planners belonged to this college oriented organization that produced the shoe bomber and the 20th 9/11 hijacker as well as John Lindh.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 25, 2006 6:53 AM

Naseem,

Go Home to Dar al Islam. For you and the rest of your taquiya loving ilk, go back to saudi arabia or pakistan. Wherever. Just leave--NOW!!!! Have a good life!

Posted by: lonewolf [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 25, 2006 1:51 PM

Face up to facts naseemotroll. The truth is finally getting out about your death cult, even to the most boneheaded Westerner, and you can hide it no longer. We have seen too much terrorism and too many beheadings carried out in the name of your devil-God. But then your barbaric, thick as pigshit neanderthal mind cannot understand this simple fact.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 26, 2006 3:17 PM

Nasem seems like a small group of muslim teens who all share a common computer, taking turns posting under the same pseudonym.

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 26, 2006 6:50 PM

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