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A welcome display of anti-dhimmitude in Amsterdam, from SANA, via the Daily Times: "Holland won’t welcome Pakistani immigrants not speaking Dutch"
ISLAMABAD: The Dutch government on Monday passed a law aimed at heavily restricting the number of would-be Pakistani immigrants to the Netherlands, by linking applications to Dutch language proficiency, officials said.
Under the new law, any Dutch national of Pakistani origin will only be permitted to send for family members (with a view to settling in Holland) provided that they learn Dutch prior to immigration application. Similarly, any Pakistani wishing to immigrate to the Netherlands will be required to take a language proficiency test at the Dutch Embassy in Islamabad. Anyone failing the test will automatically be denied the right to apply for immigration.
Officials said that recent terrorist activities in the United Kingdom, which have been linked to Britons of Pakistani origin, had prompted the Netherlands to adopt the measure. However, officials pointed out that the new law would not affect those of Pakistani origin wishing to visit the Netherlands on Schengen tourist or business visas.
The Pakistani government has come under domestic pressure to protest the new law and seek its overturning. Currently, there are no Dutch language teaching institutes in Pakistan. Many see this latest move as a bid by the Dutch government to keep Holland "Dutch".
Last year, the country offended its Muslim population by threatening to ban women from publicly wearing burqas, claiming that such attire undermined the secular identity of the country.
Posted by Marisol at September 5, 2006 7:30 AM
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The speaking of the national language is a tiny first step that could backfire as now Muslims will have a greater capacity to spread their vile political system to Dutch non-Muslims.
The problem is cultural and ideological. Unless host countries are able to change the mindset of immigrants, to convice, or even force them to jettison the old system for the new, problem immigrants will continue to be a danger for host country citizens and their systems.
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at September 5, 2006 9:43 AM
Quite franly, I think this another useless gesture, like making potential Muslim immigrants watch that video of gay couples and other such non-Muslim behaviour. I have no doubt the average Muslim would simply bite his tongue and watch the vdeo and say he's OK with it and learn Dutch in order to acomplish his/her purpose of emigrating. Lying to Infidels is accepted and encouraged, so to expect such silly measures to weed out the hardcore Jihadis is naive to an extreme.
Posted by: Proud Infidel at September 5, 2006 12:39 PM
If every European country adapted this approach, only the UK would be left with a problem. Except for Urdu and Arabic speaking Imams, they wouldn't be able to disallow anybody on linguistic grounds alone.
Which is what makes this a good first step, but inadequate in itself. What if the Jihadist applicant did know Dutch? How is that indicative of an endorsement of Dutch social and cultural norms? Instead, the atheistic nature of European countries notwithstanding, they should instead require that the applicants convert to Christianity/Judaism before they are accepted. They can switch to Athiesm later on, but under no circumstances should Islam be tolerated. Neither should a direct transition to Athiesm do, because if such a person should ever want to discover their 'spiritual side', they won't have anywhere to look but Islam. Which is why this 2-step transition to Athiesm should be necessary.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at September 5, 2006 1:00 PM
The Pakistani government has come under domestic pressure to protest the new law and seek its overturning
What? Is it just me, or is that just plain daft? What in the hell right have the Pakistan Government got to protest anyone else's criteria for entrance to their own country?
Oh no, wait, its islam - of course its daft...
Posted by: thomas ato at September 5, 2006 2:17 PM
I have witnessed a good share of immigrants in my country, Italy. South american or portuguese speaking people have an easy way to learn italian, especially the spanish speaking for obvious reasons. The fact that we feel all latin helps.
Even the people coming from the eastern block easily learn italian. Under the communism, they might have had some problems but scholarization and the will/capacity to learn never left them.
Even chinese people are willing to learn italian, being intelligent people, mostly in the trade/exports/restaurants business, they need to communicate with local people.
All the above type of immigrants mentioned are also pleased with being in italy (because of the art, culture, history, landscape, food, people etc). They select italy and not other richer countries for those reasons.
The only people who have problems are muslims. They possess the lowest IQ levels together with the highest laziness.
Not only that, in the case of Dutch, not only it's a hard language but also not very much spoken outside the neterlands. I forsee a dramatic shift of muslims going to the UK, because english is easier to learn and can be useful for other countries.
Sorry UK.
Posted by: FedUp at September 5, 2006 2:37 PM
Yup... I agree Fedup.
The overflow (along with the acceptable obscene level of immigration from muslim countries) are UK-bound.
A few generations from now and the Britain will no longer have a British majority.
These people come to the West for a better way of life. Where can Westerners go for a better way of life??
Posted by: myiironu at September 5, 2006 3:43 PM
All points made in the comments above are important.
* Learn Dutch or no immigration visa - good small step.
* Learn dutch, gain residency then increase success with dawa - doesn't look like such a good idea anymore.
* Learn dutch or apply to another european country with lower immigration standards - work the system loophole.
All european countries should impose this language barrier equally and simultaneously to effectively cut down on undesireable immigration. Unfortunately, it's only a small step in the right direction.
Unfortunately, linking immigration applications to Dutch (or any european) language proficiency imposes no barrier to terror.
For example, terrorists often provide videotaped statements. UK's 7/7 bomber,Shehzad Tanweer delivered his 'message' in english with a Yorkshire accent. He is seen in one of two videos wearing a Muslim headscarf and jabbing his finger at the camera. . ."What you have witnessed now is only the beginning" .
Well Tanweer . . .we are finally seeing signs that it is the beginning of the end for RoP.
Posted by: miira at September 5, 2006 3:45 PM
This new law will undoubtably be denounced by muslims as racist and discriminatory and challenged in court.
Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at September 5, 2006 5:52 PM
Why don't the Dutch get more serious and also ban all Pakistanies which are coming in from the UK? Aren't they as dangerous? Hey, comeOn the Dutch are responsible for supplying all nuclear know-how to Pakistan, the technology which was disseminated like a hot-cake across the Muslim World by the ex-Dutch-Pakistani Engineer, Dr. Khan and Pakistani Military.
Posted by: OneEyedWink at September 5, 2006 6:32 PM
"I have no doubt the average Muslim would simply bite his tongue and watch the vdeo and say he's OK with it and learn Dutch in order to acomplish his/her purpose of emigrating."
I don't think so. The average Muslim would not be enthusiastic enough about the Netherlands to go to the considerable effort of learning Dutch, a difficult language. I agree with posters above who believe this will make a positive difference for the Netherlands, but possible a negative one for the UK, unless the UK toughens up.
Posted by: Lili at September 6, 2006 5:00 AM
Fed-up: Do you really think Italian is that much harder than English? Yes, English verbs are easier but English has its own perils that rival anything Italian can dish out--its notoriously difficult and illogical spelling and the relentless verb + preposition mixtures such as: put up, put out, put over, put in, input, output, pick up, pick out, pick over, pickup, look out, look up, look over, look for, look in, look to, etc., etc. etc.
Perhaps you just fell off the turnip truck but I believe you are missing the boat. On the other hand, you may have been rode hard and put up wet but that's not really putting the bit on the board. But perhaps I am just barking up the wrong tree, which I have a wont to do when the chips are down or my knickers are knotted.
Posted by: former liberal WF at September 6, 2006 2:01 PM
>>I don't think so. The average Muslim would not be enthusiastic enough about the Netherlands to go to the considerable effort of learning Dutch, a difficult language. I agree with posters above who believe this will make a positive difference for the Netherlands, but possible a negative one for the UK, unless the UK toughens up.
Posted by: Proud Infidel at September 6, 2006 4:04 PM
Lili says,
"I don't think so. The average Muslim would not be enthusiastic enough about the Netherlands to go to the considerable effort of learning Dutch, a difficult language. I agree with posters above who believe this will make a positive difference for the Netherlands, but possible a negative one for the UK, unless the UK toughens up."
While I don't speak Dutch, the effort to learn Dutch can't be that much greater for them than to learn English, German or Spanish. Muslims have shown a lot of perseverance in this regard. Plus there's probably enough Dutch speaking Muslims willing to help their brothers and sisters learn the language. I wouldn't be surprised to see "Learn to speak Dutch" classes start poping up in Islamabad and other major cities. If they haven't already.
Besides, even if learning to speak Dutch turns out to be that much more difficult for them, they will learn English, Spanish or some other easier to learn language, get into the EU and then go anywhere they please with the open borders they have there.
Sorry. Just don't see something as minor as that posing more than a minor obstacle, if that.
Posted by: Proud Infidel at September 6, 2006 4:17 PM
HOW LONG AFTER THE SOCIAL-LEFT COALITION WINS THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS WILL THIS LAW BE DROPPED. PROBABLY THE NIGHT OF THE ELECTION. THE NETHERLANDS, SWEDEN, BELGIUM ARE PRIME COUNTRIES FOR A BLACK-RED ALLIANCE THAT WILL FINALLY PUSH EUROPE OVER THE CLIFT INTO EURABIA
Posted by: Douglaz at September 6, 2006 11:37 PM
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