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You are paying the Jizyah, along with all American taxpayers.
Like it or not, believe it or not, you have been paying the Jizyah. You're paying Jizyah to Egypt. For you have paid a portion of the $60 billion sent to Egypt, which is not and never could be an ally of an Infidel country. The regime of Hosni Mubarak is clever enough at continuing to exploit the memory of Saint Sadat. And decades that regime has been engaged in a kind of blackmail, so that the American government keeps allowing itself to believe that it must continue to fund Egypt -- or else.
Or else what? What can Egypt do that it is not already doing? It is a world center of antisemitism and anti-Americanism. The media campaigns against the United States have caused the Egyptians to be among the most hostile to Americans -- the source of that $60 billion -- of any people in the world. Egypt has failed as well to live up to any of the solemn promises it made to Israel in the American-brokered, or rather, Carter-and-Brzezinski-brokered, Camp David accords. Carter and Brzezinski did have plenty of help from a whole rogue's gallery: Gary Sick, William Odom, and so on. All of them were around in those days to help hector the Israelis into giving Sadat whatever he preposterously demanded. Since when does the victor in a series of wars have to beg and sue for peace from the loser? Since Israel became the victor in question, that's when.
Many of those who had taken Sadat's side at Camp David, immediately after that business ended, helped to hand over Iran on a platter to the Ayatollah Khomeini. When the regime of the Shah was attacked, Carter and Brzezinski were paralyzed with indecision. When the Shah finally fell, and Khomeini figuratively did ride in triumph through Teheran, Jimmy Carter wrote a letter hailing the Ayatollah as "a fellow man of faith." The same sorts of people, entrusted with the task of protecting us, were eager to reward Egypt for its willingness to receive the entire Sinai back from Israel for the second time, an Egypt even willing to sign a piece of paper in order to be able to do so. Thus began those annual payments of nearly $2 billion to Egypt, seen as both a keep-the-peace-bribe and as a memorial to Saint Sadat, payments that never ended, and never diminished, despite Egypt failing to honor any of its most solemn undertakings under the Camp David Accords (except that "peace" with Israel which the Americans -- and many Israelis -- still fail to realize is the result not of those Accords, but only of the peace-keeping deterrent power of the IDF). Egypt pocketed American aid but at the same time transformed itself into a world center of both anti-Americanism and antisemitism, and now the conduit for arms "smuggled" into Gaza. And it keeps on pocketing that aid.
And you're the one paying that Jizyah to Egypt.
And you are helping to pay the billions that have gone to the PLO -- that is, the Palestinian Authority, that is, to Arafat and his surviving henchman. Billions disappeared when Arafat died. Hundreds of millions in American money ended up in the bank accounts of Suha Arafat, with the rest no doubt split between the old apparatchiks such as Abbas. Arafat had gone through with a sham marriage for obvious political reasons, and Suha Arafat has now received her reward.
And today, two decades after the Camp David accords, we are hearing anew the nonsense about a "new Middle East," and reviving that "two-state solution." (Remember, it must be a "solution" because otherwise they would not call it that, would they?) And of course we are continuing to prevent the very things we should be desiring -- ethnic and sectarian strife within Iraq, and then elsewhere in Dar al-Islam (in Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Pakistan, even Yemen between Sunnis and Shi'a; elsewhere between non-Arab Muslims, inspired by a free Kurdistan, now seeing clearly, for the first time, how Islam has been a vehicle for Arab supremacism). Instead, we are continuing to pay the Jizyah, to this one and to that one. The incomprehension is near-total.
For you are also paying a Jizyah to Jordan. Once upon a time American taxpayers, through the CIA, paid for the visits to King Hussein's assorted Western hotel suites of assorted very expensive call girls (but then they extended that courtesy to so many others, such as Sukarno -- or was it Suharto?). Now Jordan is given even more, and granted most-favored-nation status. This has resulted in the horrific conditions of quasi-slave-labor in Arab-owned textile factories, where non-Arab workers from Asia are lured, exploited, and often thrown out after a year or several without any pay. That's Jordan, to which you have been paying Jizyah. Did I forget to say that in opinion polls, Jordanians more than any other people on earth hate the Americans?
And you are paying for those billions in debt-forgiven Pakistan, meretricious Pakistan, supporter of the Taliban in Afghanistan, supporter of Muslim terrorists in Kashmir and all over India. You are paying for the economic and military aid that Pakistan has been receiving from the United States for decades. And despite Dr. A. Q. Khan's theft of Western nuclear secrets, which allowed Pakistan to produce nuclear weapons, and despite the transfer of knowledge by Pakistan to both Iran and North Korea, you -- and I, and every American -- continue to pay Jizyah to Pakistan.
For a few brief shining moments, the Americans (and even the Europeans) halted Jizyah payments to the "Palestinian" "Authority," which is neither "Palestinian" but rather Arab, nor an "Authority," but rather a local collection of warlords and bribe-takers, each more corrupt and violent than the next. But how eager they are, those Americans (and of course those Europeans) to resume payment of that Jizyah on any pretense, with any excuse. Any figleaf of an accord between Abu Mazen (nom de Jihad of Mahmoud Abbas) and Hamas will do. Abu Mazen's smooth words (a "man of peace" Bush calls him -- the same Bush who looked into the soul of Vladimir Putin and liked what he saw) and any pretense that he accepts, in the absurd formulation, "Israel's right to exist," will trigger the turning of the tap of Jizyah by those eager and confused Americans and by those Europeans, who can hardly hold that Jizyah in any longer, who just have to relieve themselves of it, they can hardly stand it, please let us start the Jizyah again, oh please.
Meanwhile, the Muslim Arab states have taken in ten trillion dollars since 1973 in oil and gas revenues, money that they received not through any entrepreneurial flair or industry on the part of their peoples, but merely through an accident of geology. Nevertheless, they are delighted to pay nothing to those fellow members of the Umma that somehow forgot to be endowed with massive oil wealth -- Egypt, Pakistan, Jordan, the "Palestinian" "Authority" -- and even more delighted to let the Infidels spend tens of billions of dollars to support those "poor" Muslim peoples and polities, giving them aid that is not given, by the way, to all kinds of poor non-Muslim states all over the world. What could be more fitting than this? It accords with what Allah and Muhammad require, it puts the Infidels in the proper, subservient relationship to Muslims, and it also confirms, to Muslims, that indeed they are owed a living. And that living comes for the rich Muslim states and statelets through the vast sums, swelled by oligopolistic rents, received from Infidel oil-consuming nations -- including the United States, hindered at every step since 1973 from having effective, long-term energy policies, because of the dreamy belief, encouraged by an army of Saudi-funded Western hirelings, that the Saudis "will take care of oil pricing for us."
And the others, the Muslim countries without oil wealth, or a great many of them, receive aid from Infidel states -- those same oil-consuming nations -- and not from their fabulously rich fellow Muslims, some of whom live in statelets with a few hundred thousand souls and receive tens of billions every year. Infidel aid, thus, is received by Muslims as by right, and given by Infidels as if it simply must be. Everyone talks and acts as if this is the natural course of things, unnaturally and briefly interrupted. The minute some verbal figleaf-formula is found enabling the Fast Jihad (Hamas) to hide behind the Slow Jihad (Abu Mazen and Fatah), the Jizyah is resumed. The Slow Jihadists continue to be regarded, despite all the present evidence and all the evidence of 1350 years of unshakeable Islamic doctrine, as wanting a "permanent peace with Israel," when of course they want no such thing.
No one asks why such aid to the "Palestinians" should be renewed by the Infidels, given the vast Arab and Muslim wealth from oil, and given the huge expenses Infidels now incur in protecting themselves from Muslim violence of all kinds, and given that there is no reason for Infidels to support Muslims in any case. Nor does anyone ask why it should ever have been started in the first place. And as the habit of Jizyah payments has been acquiesced to by the Infidel governments in Western Europe and even North America, such acquiescence has helped prepare the right pyschological attitude, the attitude conducive to Muslim domination, and even conquest, through means other than force of arms.
Like it? No, I thought you wouldn't. And I don't either. Write your Congressmen. Raise hell. Stop the Jizyah to people whose belief-system makes them view us as their permanent enemies. Make them behave. Make them stop attempting to impose upon us a disguised Jizyah that is looking more and more undisguised for those with eyes to see, every day.
Stop the damn Jizyah.
Posted by Hugh at September 21, 2006 6:00 AM
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Assalamau-Laikum all,
I don't like the word Jizah...it has all sorts of ancient connotations which are undesirable in the modern world.
No, the "payment" I think is an unwritten payment for possibly the mightest Arab country in the ME to keep the peace with Israel.
Surely $60Billion is a small price for peace, there are also the added benefits of modernising Egypt so that the infedel can enjoy holidays there.
There is already troubles with Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Syria...why oh why would you want to open up troubles with Egypt too.
If you stop "modernising" Egypt, the ME will say that the Amerkie has listened to Israel. The Israelis infact are quite happy that they have peace with Egypt.
There are so many pressures in the Islamic world anyway...no need to apply more pressure.
Just imagine the good your money does...the amount of Islamic mouths if helps to feed (but the government musn't tell the peoples WHERE the money comes from...just that it is there....a small price to pay I feel.
I'm afraid that High is wrong on this one, your admin must continue to keep taxing you.
Posted by: Naseem
at September 21, 2006 6:14 AM
Naseem entertains us with Islamic jokes...No, Naseem $60 billion is a small price for peace...if someone else is paying it. How much of that $60 bill did you say 'You' paid? Naseem wants the US welfare system to keep sending those checks. We need to feed all those hungry Islamic mouths so that they can produce healthy jihadists. Stop the jizya...let Naseem pay it...
Posted by: duh_swami
at September 21, 2006 6:43 AM
Nice to see you people finally getting the idea.
Posted by: KAOSKTRL
at September 21, 2006 7:47 AM
The next time you are in JC Penney or Nordstrom or Macys shopping for a men's dress shirt by Izod or Van Heusen or Pierre Cardin, check the label.
Take a pass on a shirt manufactured in Pakistan or Bangladesh or Indonesia. Instead, look for one of the many manufactured in Saipan or Mexico or the Philippines.
Do the same with mens' slacks, ladies' blouses, childrens' shoes.
If those simple buying decision are made 200 million times a year, it won't take long for multi-national companies to adjust to "consumer preferences".
Factories will continue to be situated where labor is cheap but critically, only where firms can be sure the finished goods produced will be purchased by American households .
Take advantage of "country of origin labeling" (cool).
End all financial support -- public and private -- to those who would kill or subjugate you and your family.
Posted by: Charles Martel
at September 21, 2006 7:59 AM
When Australia gave a whole billion Aust dollars to Indonesia for the tsunami I worked out that it cost each of us $50. That made me think, not because Im hard up for $50 only that apart from some thanks etc it didnt seem to do any good anyway.
at September 21, 2006 8:00 AM
It's time we tell the children, the Bank of Uncle Sam is closed. It's time to be weaned. They have had the opportunity to have put the past monies to good use and to create something useful to help themselves. If they haven't, tough. And from the massive amounts of weaponry , we can safely assume they haven't. Their people still live in hovels. These are nations of leeches and that's all they will ever be. We have better things to spend our money on.
Posted by: freewoman
at September 21, 2006 8:03 AM
>>>When Australia gave a whole billion Aust dollars to Indonesia for the tsunami I worked out that it cost each of us $50. That made me think, not because Im hard up for $50 only that apart from some thanks etc it didnt seem to do any good anyway.
Posted by: payingattention
And it has mostly gone to re-building Aceh, under sharia law:((
Hate to say this but I gave $50 also. Peer-group pressure at a New Year's Eve party. I could have given much more, but refuse to fund an islamic country. I don't support the Red Cross either.
They won't accept Israel, they were hopeless with the 9/11 fund and hopeless with the money raised for Ausssie victims' families in the Bali attacks.
Charles Martel:
I have been doing "political shopping" for years!It's a good idea.
I am just sorry I am so fond of Chanel #5.
(just one little bottle every 2 years! Oh well,,,)
at September 21, 2006 8:24 AM
Freewomen is right in comparing Muslims to children. The west literally has a parent- child,caretaker relationship with the Islamic world. They helpless violent children, we feed them, we house them and we even attempt to act as play-ground monitors,per our mess in Iraq. I say no more Jizyah, time for the children to grow up.
The Ummah is like a ungrateful,fat,insolent,abusive,unemployed 23 year old that sits around smoking pot,watching cable and living in his parents basement. It is time a good hard kick in the ass. Sink or swim children.
I read recently Saudi Arabia only has 63% adult literacy. What did they do with one of the largest wealth transfers in history? Something between nothing and not much. No Jizyah, enjoy your Islam made hell, sans our infidel money.
Posted by: abdulalshirk
at September 21, 2006 8:24 AM
sorry for the typo. Aussie not Ausssie!
at September 21, 2006 8:26 AM
I read recently Saudi Arabia only has 63% adult literacy.
This is because islam is a retarded culture that produces retarded people, especially saudi arabia. It is a culture of usurpation and is unable to integrate even basic Western technology like automobiles let alone develop technologies of their own.
This will work to our advantage as we foment unending violence in the middle east. They use technology we allow them to have. We use technology they do not even know exists.
at September 21, 2006 9:39 AM
I think that Hugh has a great post here. But before get down to the issue of jizyah, I'll comment on Suha and her magic marriage. She was first announced as being pregnant 15 months before she gave birth. That's pretty terrific, don't you think, Girls? My wife can't explain it to me. So I have to think that there is either something supernatural there or that somehow Madame Arafat was impregnated unnaturally or by an unnatural creature. Maybe even by Yasser Dear. But it's true that pregnancy was announced by the PLO fifteen months before birth. How do we explain it?
Now, on jizyah, I would like to add that Saudi Arabia has been getting special subsidies through the US corporate income tax system since 1951. That is, for 51 years. While Truman was president, ARAMCO was allowed to deduct royalties paid to the Saudi royals from their US corporate tax as a supposed Foreign tax credit. See links:
http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2005/09/kindly-making-arabia-rich.html
http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2005/09/what-does-left-really-mean-in-2005.html
at September 21, 2006 10:02 AM
"Arafat had gone through with a sham marriage for obvious political reasons, and Suha Arafat has now received her reward."
Even back in the 1970's when I lived in Cairo the diplomatic and press people used to gossip about Arafat's 'little boys'. I was amazed at the time of how much 'common knowledge' the general public is spared to keep us thinking 'correctly'.
at September 21, 2006 10:13 AM
Is there not any way to freeze the assets of Mrs. Arafat? Isn't that mostly OUR money?
Posted by: freewoman
at September 21, 2006 10:21 AM
"The Ummah is like a ungrateful,fat,insolent,abusive,unemployed 23 year old that sits around smoking pot,watching cable and living in his parents basement."
abdulalshirk, for a second I thought you were talking about my kid.
But to the point. I read AP story yesterday:
EGYPTIAN PRESIDENT'S SON PROPOSES DEVELOPING NUCLEAR ENERGY
"The son of Egypt's president urged his father's party on Tuesday to consider a proposal to develop nuclear energy, taking a controversial stance as he seeks to position himself regionally as a serious politician.
Gamal Mubarak, who addressed delegates of the country's ruling party in which he holds a post, has repeatedly denied speculation that he wants to succeed his father, President Hosni Mubarak." (AP)
And I'm the King of Siam.
Link is here:
www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3305850,00.html
at September 21, 2006 10:50 AM
My bet is that if the whole of Islamastan were cut off from the West (dollars, charity resources, knowledge, technology, etc.)the entire region would be a copy of infertile, tribal Afghanistan within a year or so.
Re: Abdulalshurk's posting above, it has occured to me long ago that Islam society is basically a gross dysfunctional framily. WE are the enablers. Just like the wife who thinks that if only she wears the right perfume, maybe her husband will stop drinking and beating her up. We have helped to create this monster by feeding, clothing, educating (or trying), rescuing, apologizing, etc. ...and we wonder what _WE" are doing wrong.
Cut them off, tell them to make it on their own. Don't call us. We'll call you. And the next time you show up at our door you better be clean, sober and respectable, dammit.
at September 21, 2006 11:07 AM
The same criticism could be made of the way the EU sees pouring in aid to the palestinians as one of its particular responsiblities.Where does all that Saudi oil money go, for goodness sake? What does Europe get in return? Good will nnd gratitude? No - the persecution of Gazan Christians.
Posted by: wallyUK
at September 21, 2006 12:35 PM
"I don't like the word Jizah...it has all sorts of ancient connotations which are undesirable in the modern world.
No, the "payment" I think is an unwritten payment for possibly the mightest Arab country in the ME to keep the peace with Israel. "
hey COW, the mafia mobs call it PIZZO. That's what it is, since islam is a mafia org.
Please take a moment to remember why the cow is so stupid
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A recent study conducted by the Agha Khan Medical University concluded that 80% of the sampled children in Karachi had less than normal IQ level.
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There was a post in a forum about TV that called for money for the earthquake in pakistan (the one that murdered someone we know) and it had 3 pages of people saying: "we are not giving any money to animals calling us dirty christians"
HHAHAHAHAHAHA
at September 21, 2006 12:47 PM
Naseem,
The Egyptian government uses that money to feed the mouths of people they indocrtinate to hate the US and Israel.
The Egyptian government consists of very corrupt people who want the US government to back them so that they can remain in power. The Egyptian government therefore fosters ideological extremism in the population, to ensure that they have an excuse for retaining their totalitarian power.
Were their government functional, and were the people not indoctrinated in the way that they are, the country could build industry like Asia has, and feed itself. There would then be no need for the aid which permits the nation to persist in a state of extreme disfunction.
The aid permits the state to squeak by, but it is sinking more and more into poverty and economic hopelessness. The real solution is an end to corruption in government and to a change in outlook in the people from self-pity to self-reliance. The aid is reducing the pressure for this real solution to be found.
Even with the aid, the nation will continue to slip into poverty, given the fundamental political and economic dysfunction (and not to mention the likely-to-induce-widespread starvation birth rates). As misery increases, people will become more and more desperate, and there will be more and more people willing to kill Westerners on the assumption that they are somehow at fault for Egypt's dysfunction.
The solution is not to argue that somehow Americans are responsible for the dangerously high birthrate/number of mouths to feed in Egypt.
The solution is to make the aid conditional on government reform, and addmittance of Western NGOs in Egypt without significant government constraints, in the hopes that they can begin to analyze the roots of the society's severe dysfunctionality.
The West could not seriously be blamed for choosing to spend its own money elsewhere. Any problems that would occur in a situation when the Egyptian society is running on its own would be clearly the fault of the Egyptian government and people. This might clarify what exactly is whose fault, and lead to actual economic political progress, assuming that most Egyptians have their minds at least partially in tact.
Posted by: mrsmomomoto
at September 21, 2006 1:20 PM
Another right-on-the-money article. I can only add, "Yup".
But there is one idea, that has been repeated over the past months:
And a year or two later, this same crowd had time to help hand over Iran on a platter to the Ayatollah Khomeini, while Carter and Brzezinski sat paralyzed. And when the Shah did fall, and Khomeini did appear triumphant in Teheran, Jimmy Carter wrote a letter hailing the monster as "a fellow man of faith."
The idea that we could have prevented the rise of Islam in Iran, how is that possible? We could have propped up the Shah a while longer, till he died of cancer. Possibly we could have prevented the return of Khomeini until his demise. With our assistance, the Islamic revolution could have been stalled for a little while, we could have encouraged the jihadists to kill each other, rather than us, for a little while.
But regardless of the face on the government, the heart of Iranian people was with Islam. It was, and would have continued to be, the analogy of Pakistan today. A "staunch ally", propped up by the West, accepting our largesse when it came to military equipment, "dual-use" technology, and aid, aid, and more aid. We would have been told that we cannot chase the jihadists in Iran, that would violate the territorial integrity of that "moderate" government that is so "friendly" towards us. It was precisely the rise of a "radical" Shi'ite government that allowed the Iran-Iraq War to take place. Was it really so bad that the facade fell, and Iran showed its true face, and our aid to them ended? Was it really so bad that we no longer had to spend our energies creating a phantasmagorical "moderate" fantasyland in the Middle East? If more of these putative "moderate" allies of ours fell, wouldn't that allow us to drop the pretense, and start focusing our attention where it belongs: on building a defense against the coming jihad? All that financial aid could go to those who really need it, who really deserve it: ourselves. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
Please don't interpret this as a defense of Carter or Brzezinski. Their dealings with Islam set the low standard that we still follow today. They are the innovators, as far as I know, of the whole "Islam is a religion of peace" red-herring. Dealing with Arafat, with what we knew at the time, was inexcusable.
Posted by: special_guest
at September 21, 2006 1:23 PM
"As misery increases, people will become more and more desperate, and there will be more and more people willing to kill Westerners on the assumption that they are somehow at fault for Egypt's dysfunction."
mrsmomomoto, that's exactly what 1 billion muslim want, murder, mayhem.
They think that murdering the whole western people they can confortably set in our countries and live the good life.
They cannot understand that wherever they go and left to their own capabilities they will turn to shit whatever they touch.
This is the why muslims are a laughing stock. It's the only group of people that even if they win, they loose and they LOOSE badly.
Nasheem the cow is into the ethnic cleansing of the west as all the other muslims.
Posted by: FedUp
at September 21, 2006 1:44 PM
I heartily agree, Mr. Fitzgerald.
Let's stop paying the Jizyah to people like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biLLsSRvrGk
and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb_k3v5joIY
and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQA-R2CSItU
at September 21, 2006 1:57 PM
"The Ummah is like a ungrateful,fat,insolent,abusive,unemployed 23 year old that sits around smoking pot,watching cable and living in his parents basement. It is time a good hard kick in the ass. Sink or swim children."
If the payments cripple the ability of a country and its citizens to stand on their own feet, if they contribute to weakness and bad habits, then the same argument used for encouraging sectarian violence can be used here. Do we want them to "grow up" in the sense of becoming strong?
Posted by: Roph
at September 21, 2006 4:10 PM
Aw crap. I bought some new work clothes last week and I think some of the shirts were made in Jordan. I avoid Pakistan and Bengladesh, but Jordan slipped right by.
They cannot understand that wherever they go and left to their own capabilities they will turn to shit whatever they touch.
Silver lining? After they destroy the West, they're back to starvation and disease with no one left to help them.
Posted by: radishthegreat
at September 21, 2006 4:52 PM
exactly, but they are too stupid to know
Posted by: FedUp
at September 21, 2006 8:06 PM
Hugh,
what did you mean by a "sham marriage" between Arafat and his wife?
please explain. thanks
Posted by: adullam
at September 22, 2006 8:00 AM
Arafat was well-known to be a homosexual. It is one of the things that Oriana Fallaci immediately spotted, but of course Arabs everywhere knew it as well. He apparently had a taste for blonde German boys, as well as for the locals kept on his mukata staff.
As a kind of dynastic arrangement, he married a Christian Arab who wanted the money -- a lot of money, for it would take a lot of money, would it not, to marry Yassir Arafat? -- and who got it. Meanwhile, rumors in the West could be put to rest, and the "christian" background of islamochristian Suha Arafat might also help in what counted, and what counted was the image of Arafat in the West.
Surely you knew all this? Everyone knows it.
Posted by: Hugh
at September 22, 2006 10:04 AM
I feel like Howard Jarvis here: yes, "I'm mad as Hell." (For all the good that'll do any of us).
But unfortunately, the US government has apparently become too ineffectual and the American people too complacent and/or divided for anything to get done about the situation at this point. The mula continues to go to our enemies, the Islamic hate-propaganda piles up, members of the western democracies become increasingly cowardly...
Worst of all, the ringleaders of the Islamosphere are undoubtedly using US taxmonies to devise ways to blow us up.
"W" is for wobbly!
Posted by: pythagoras
at September 23, 2006 1:10 PM
Naseem: Keeping Muslims alive is always a bad idea.
Posted by: pythagoras
at September 23, 2006 1:11 PM
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