This story is appalling.

And that Major should have been told where to get off.

This isn't an example of cultural sensitivity, this is an example of one culture abasing itself before another.

And this isn't the way that success will be earned in Iraq.

Posted by: Dan at October 3, 2006 7:32 AM

PC is truly a universal phenomenon. Is there ever any hope of overcoming it?

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at October 3, 2006 7:52 AM

And the muslim world thinks that George Bush is an islam fighter out to destroy islam. I wish. You couldn't have a more dhimmi military if you had Dhimmi Carter in power.

We have not yet learned to fear and hate the muslims as we need to. We are not taking them seriously. We are still humoring them as we would humor incontinent senior citizens, the mentally retarded, and Special Olympics athletes.

Posted by: August22 at October 3, 2006 7:55 AM

This is beyond disgusting that a non-Muslim is forcing Islame on non-Muslims and a secular Muslim. This contempatble and the stupid slave of a major is contemptable. This story,coppled with yesterday's stories about the Maslum harrassing the wounded solider in the hospital in England and the promoting of the Muslim Christmas carol grinch make me sick. Westerners are mostly Chrisitan, Jewish or secular, not Muslim so those who would force Islam on us can rot in hell.Enough P.C. groveling. Islam and Muslims can p&*% off.

This problem goes beyond the military. My mother worked at a local public school with lots of Somalians and had to sure that the little girls maintained their hijabs at all times,among other things.

Its Ramadan and I will enjoy some swine flesh and then read the Koran with bacon grease covered fingers. Every Ramadan for the past three years I eagerly await the moon and celebrate with pork and booze.

Ramadan is all about hypocracy, the Muslims act all holy and pious and then after dark gourge themselves sick. So even gain weight. In high school we had Muslims on my wrestling team Ramadan got our time good, some key guys where weak from fasting and lost, hurting the team. A couple times the sun would go down just before the match and they would quick gorge and then end up puking all over the mat. Yes Ramadan sucks and no infidel should have put up with it or any other Muhammedan hocus-pocus.

Posted by: abdulalshirk at October 3, 2006 7:56 AM

If the US military is like this - what hope is there for the West - this PC sickness seems to have spread to deep and is clouding our ability to think clearly and logically - I fear it will be our undoing - I always thought empires died from within by becoming corrupt - we seem to be dying from within by becoming "nice" and "understanding" - it all makes nme f**** sick!!

Posted by: johnmac at October 3, 2006 8:13 AM

I took a moment to ponder what I had just witnessed. An American infidel enforcing Islamic tradition on an apparently secular Muslim!

This, and not "occupation" or "colonialism" or Abu Ghreib, is America's true failure in Iraq: treating democracy (which is claimed to be the goal for the US involvement in Iraq) as isolated from the heritage of Ancient Greek and Judeo-Christian cultures, thinking the inherently anti-democratic culture of Islam can be shrugged off as if it were a local exoticism like kabuki theater is in Japan.

And when did that folly start? Right after 9/11, when Bush backtracked from his words, "This war, this crusade...", in order to refute the accusation of going to religious war, and when the name "Operation Infinite Justice" was changed to "Operation Enduring Freedom" because of Muslims' complaint that only Allah could dispense infinite justice, and when Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi apologized for his remarks, uttered from the veracity of his breast, on the superiority of Western culture over that of Islam. It all started then, and has been going downhill ever since.

Posted by: ZionistYoungster at October 3, 2006 8:41 AM

Non-Muslim American miltary personnel are, I believe, still prohibited from handling Muslim detainees' copies of the Qur'an at Guantanamo Bay.

I've written to Senator's Feinstein and Boxer, my congressman and his challenger several times about this.

DiFi always responds by telling me how we should leave Gitmo, it's a stain on our national reputation, etc. Boxer, my congressman and his challenger have yet to respond.

Remember, too, Islam has been hijacked from 'moderate' Muslims like the translator with the cranberry juice.

Posted by: PRCS at October 3, 2006 8:44 AM

What? It's Ramadan and no riots in Iraq to celebrate it? Must be a European deal.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at October 3, 2006 8:56 AM

Wow, I could have had a V8!

Posted by: Shy Guy at October 3, 2006 9:10 AM

Just another example of the foolish and quite frankly dangerous practice of multiculturalism. We are worried about offending Muslims during Ramadan while a few Kms' outside the door muslims are still killing each other with suicide bombs.

In Brussells, Muslims are celebrating ramadan by hurling stones at non muslims, burning cars, buses and shouting insults to non-muslims all over the city as they did in France the year before which is how they let you know that they are going to be in control eventually.

Yes but don't insult them by having a drink during ramadan, after all they would never do anything to insult other religions

Posted by: Mackie at October 3, 2006 9:47 AM

Hmmm.

Major is a women.

Trying to compete in a man's world. Trying to do better than a man. Not using common sense. Can outdo any man about PC. Is great PC commander. The logic trail goes on.......

God willing, of course.

Posted by: credit man at October 3, 2006 9:51 AM

May Allah (moon g-d) bless America.

After all the moon has been trodden on, driven over, scorched, dug into and played on.. many times. And to top it all off Allah has had an American Flag stuck into it.

Posted by: Churchill1939 at October 3, 2006 10:02 AM

Correct me if I am wrong . . .Ramadan fasts are part and parcel of the greater jihad . .the personal struggle to become better muslims. Correct?

None of our military should have this jihad IMPOSED upon them - EVER. This is the antithesis of the democratic values our country's dedicated service men/women have long fought hard for.

Someone hand a copy of Fjordman’s recent essay, “The Cost of Historical Amnesia” to this clueless ‘staff officer’. While you're at it, a stack of books listed in the books section of this website should be read by each of our military officers.

Winning hearts and minds? Any attraction to democratic values is utterly trashed when hostile and foreign traditions are forcibly IMPOSED upon our service men and women. The Iraqi's should be kissing the feet of our service members with deepest gratitude.

Is that too culturally insensitive? Then Hugh Fitzgerald is correct . . .more than enough of our national treasure has been expended on this ungreatful sand box. Let the Sunnis and the Shia have at it in their much desired civil war. Muslims murder more of their own on any given day. . .there is no more cost effective, efficient way to rid the globe of muslims than muslims themselves.

Posted by: Janos Hunyadi remembered at October 3, 2006 10:05 AM

No hearts or minds will be won in such fashion. Only the sight of American Infidels calmly and unjapologetically being Infidels, and not observing Ramadan -- why should they? -- will make any kind of useful impression. As for the Major, who clearly is only doing what she thinks she has been taught to do, what she must do -- she's apparently too obedient (if following to the letter some damn guideline)or if not obedient, then too uncomprehending of Muslim psychology and of the need for Infidels NOT to do what she is forcing them to do, to be of much good in the future. May she not rise beyond her current rank, not unless she begins to understand that signs of accommodation are not always and everywhere repaid in kind, but taken rather as signs of weakness, to be exploited.

As for the translator with his cranberry juice, who apparently has no intention of observing to the letter -- if at all - Ramadan, he must have been astonished at the Major's idiotic behavior.

Larry Gelbart must be itching to get back to his typewriter right now. There will be MASH set in Iraq. And perhaps the female figure of fun, no longer Hot Lips, can be based on this plus-islamiste-que-les-islamiste major. So jot down your observations, and save them for future use. The old song: There'll come a time/when she'll regret it/There'll come a time/Don't you forget it." You can hum the rest.

Posted by: Hugh at October 3, 2006 10:07 AM

Lets see.....

I think that they start "Rifting" at major. She would look good as a TechSergeant. That is, if she wanted to stay!

Here's a little PC from the civilian side. Her job description must contain a phrase that that he/she cannot be a danger to her co-workers.

She is absolutely dangerous. She places the rest of her command in a dangerous position.

Posted by: credit man at October 3, 2006 10:21 AM

In fact, I'll be making a pitch for a series based on the folly of Iraq later this week. Yes, I see Johnny Depp as a devil-may-care Marine who refuses to obey any of the rules, Sacha Baron Cohen as the local interpreter who gets everyone in hot water because doesn't really know English (and it may turn out that he doesn't really know Arabic either). Ben Kingsley as the one solid and trustworthy Iraqi figure, elderly now, who is constantly trying to signal the Americans that the real problem is Islam and until they undrstand that, they will achieve nothing for themselves, James Garofalo as a hard-driving but there's-not-mine-to-reason-why general, and playing the part of the female major -- oh, I don't know -- any suggestions?

The tentative title I have been using for this pitchable series possibly won't cut the mustard. Just imagine Jay Leno in his monologue, describing the NBC Thursday-night lineup:

"First there's "My Name is Earl." Then there's "The Office." And now there's going to be 'Der Untergang des Abendlandes.' Hey, what's with that?"

[Camera vorkapitches to humorful face of Kevin Eubanks and then assorted members of the "Tonight Show Orchestra"]

Yes. The title needs work.

Posted by: Hugh at October 3, 2006 10:36 AM

It is encouraging that (at least some) officers in our military are not satisfied to learn about islam soley from saudi propagandists hired by the Pentagon to tell them lies. May the seeds of truth spread throughout the officer corps and I pray for their safe return.

Posted by: Infidel33 at October 3, 2006 10:43 AM

Was that major wearing a burkha "in the presence of the Iraqis"?

If "respect" means that Infidels must follow Islamic law and custom in the presence of Muslims as she appears to insist, it follows logically that she should have! In fact, according to her logic, any female should cover their sinful head anywhere where Muslims are present -- which is pretty much everywhere these days.

Posted by: rahel at October 3, 2006 10:51 AM

No guts, no glory...

What is the name of this female Major? Enquiring minds want to know...

So a commissioned officer of the Armed Forces of the United States is working for UBL?

With any luck, maybe she'll get fragged...that would be cheaper than taking her for a helicopter ride...Death to Traitors...

She won't be missed...

(No wonder we're losing in Iraq).

CREDIT MAN---Lets not insult Technical Sergents by making this Major one. She should be courtmarshalled with loss of all pay and benefits and given a Bad Conduct Discharge.

Actually, Credit Man, you have the better idea. I am cooling down after reading this and writing my response. 'Rif'ting her would be best (along with a BCD).

'RIF' is an abbreviation meaning 'Reduction In Force'. Thats the Army way to tell you you have been fired from your job and the military.

Posted by: SCV at October 3, 2006 10:53 AM

In my use above of the verb "vorkapitch," a word derived from the eponymous Slavko Vorkapitch, Serbian-Hollywood cineaste, I may have pulled a Perelman. That would be fitting. It was S. J. Perelman who, on a transatlantic liner, possibly the Queen Elizabeth (on the last leg of his Phineas-Fogg personal retake) first taught me the word.

Posted by: Hugh at October 3, 2006 10:54 AM

My choice for the role of the woman.
majorhttp://www.hollywoodcollectorshow.com/juliebrown.jpg

Posted by: Mackie at October 3, 2006 11:00 AM

rahel:

If we really want to practice Islamic correctness, maybe as a woman she should not even be in the same room with men let alone giving orders to them.

Posted by: Mackie at October 3, 2006 11:11 AM

The poster just above has given the main point -- which, my god, I failed to realize. How can Iraqis, Iraqi generals or captains or privates, be expected to endure the sight of a female major giving orders to males who are junior to her? This offense is rank -- or rather, her rank is the offense.

She should, for the good of the cause, resign her commission and leave the army for good, or at least all female officers in Iraq should be asked if they think it would be a good idea to avoid offending the sensibilities of Muslim officers and men by having those female American officers take orders, just when the Iraqis are around, from male officers and men who normally would be given orders by her?

Wouldn't that just as important, as stopping someone from opening a bottle of cranberry juice?

Posted by: Hugh at October 3, 2006 12:00 PM

It's bad enough that muslims are insane without members of the US military joining them in their insanity.

Posted by: duh_swami at October 3, 2006 12:25 PM

! In fact, according to her logic, any female should cover their sinful head anywhere where Muslims are present -- which is pretty much everywhere these days.
Posted by: rahel
There ya go! She should also sit down and shut up, since women are inferior. (in islam) Maybe one of the soldiers should beat the hell out of her, and send her to her quarters.
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Posted by: Carolyn2 at October 3, 2006 12:31 PM

"As Chief of the Army High Command, Hammerstein-Equord oversaw the composition of the German manual on military unit command (Truppenführung), dated 17 October 1933. He originated a special classification scheme for his officers:

I divide my officers into four classes; the clever, the lazy, the industrious, and the stupid. Each officer possesses at least two of these qualities. Those who are clever and industrious are fitted for the highest staff appointments. Use can be made of those who are stupid and lazy. The man who is clever and lazy however is for the very highest command; he has the temperament and nerves to deal with all situations. But whoever is stupid and industrious is a menace and must be removed immediately!"

The more things change...

Posted by: Marwan'sDaughter at October 3, 2006 12:34 PM

ROTFL

Posted by: Shahryar at October 3, 2006 12:54 PM

"PC is truly a universal phenomenon. Is there ever any hope of overcoming it?"

It certainly is universal, and dominant, and prevalent, and its most offensive feature is that it is not centralized: its power is amorphously cultural, and it affects -- and infects -- the hearts and minds of millions of ordinary people in sociologically ordinary ways.

If it were merely the ideology of a cabal of sinister "elites" directing PC from their central spider webs, it would be easier to deconstruct and dismantle. As for it unraveling of its own accord, I'm afraid the only alternative to a long process of decades of cultural devolution will have to be a certain number of rude, and horrible, shocks from major Muslim terror attacks occurring in widely dispersed and major locations.

Posted by: remote_control at October 3, 2006 12:58 PM

If this incident did happen it is a violation of the U.S. Constitution re. use of government power to establish religion. I hope that somebody will take this to court or file a complaint with the Office of Civil Rights.

Posted by: Abby at October 3, 2006 1:29 PM

This doesn't surprise me in the least.

As I've said before, I live near a heavily Muslim part of a major British city, although the nearby streets are mostly non-Muslim.

Our local community centre has a firework display every November 5th, complete with food.

Last year ... no food. Why? Ramadan! Never mind that it takes place after dark, never mind all the non-Muslims who'd be happy to supply treacle toffee and pizza. Local Muslims apparently couldn't cook or eat the food, so no food.

The community centre is currently seeking to change the terms of its licence so that it hosts fewer noisy music nights (good) but can occasionally have a bar (at the moment anyone can bring their own booze). At a public meeting to discuss these changes, a Muslim couple made it clear that what was bothering them was the idea of alcohol being purchasable on site.

They and I got quite loud on the subject. On opposite sides, you understand.

Then the chairman invited everyone to a party at the community centre in a couple of weeks' time, with food available from 6.30. The couple announced that they wouldn't be able to attend as it was still Ramadan (yes, it appears they can't even be around food), and 'you should have asked us, first, shouldn't you?' Followed by this exchange:

Chairman: Well, mea culpa.
Muslima: What? What does that mean?
Me: It's Latin.
Muslima: Oh, well, I wouldn't know (tossing head as if to say, 'Do you think I would know any language the Pope speaks?')

I'm looking forward to this party.

WSW

Posted by: Wild Slutty Womens at October 3, 2006 1:31 PM

I just love how muslims are so self righteous and they use ramadan as an excuse to prove how devout they are. In reality it proves how little self control these people have. the fast is a joke. You wake up, pig out, don't eat while their is day out. so about now maybe 8 hours. then you go home and pig out. and nothing is off limits. Desserts you name it. That is one funny kind of fast.

Posted by: pissedoffcanadian at October 3, 2006 2:48 PM

Was she wearing a hijab? Why not?

Somebody needs to ream her out for this!

Posted by: lonewolf at October 3, 2006 3:06 PM

And if it was a Friday in lent do you think they would have forbidden meat to be sensitive to Catholics? No way! This makes me sick.

Posted by: Right Wing at October 3, 2006 3:06 PM

Don't the Jews fast for a full day on Yom Kipper? I hope all the British folks and all the mahometans observe the Jewish holiday by fasting, too.

Posted by: Infidel33 at October 3, 2006 3:23 PM

A bit O/T, but this is from an abc news item:

"Mourners carry the body of Palestinian security force officer Ramadan Ramadan, who was a member of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas' Force 17"

....killed by another mahometan on, of all days, ramadan. What misfortune!

Posted by: Infidel33 at October 3, 2006 3:28 PM

Presumably, before receiving her commission, this officer made a solemn promise to defend the US Constitution. Her enforcement of Islamic mores upon anyone, let alone US military personnel, contravenes the First Amendment (freedom of/from religion). Shame on her. Who's her CO?

Posted by: Chatillon at October 3, 2006 3:40 PM

Recommended title for Hugh Fitzgerald's sitcom: "The Star Spengler Banner."

Posted by: Chatillon at October 3, 2006 3:43 PM

dumb asses--all of 'em, xept for the guy telling the story and the translator*. The US military are suckaes to the Islamics. For shame! And we depend on these people to defend us from our enemy(Islam?)

I know, i know, there's plenty of non-public-relations types in the military, enough to to do what must be done. Only the PC Major (or whatever rank she has) will do anything to keep them on the straight and narrow. "Do not shoot unless they point a gun (or RPG) at you first."

Gawd! My stomach's upset, I think I'll have that cranberry juice for Ramadan right now! And it's only 10:17 in the morning here. Well, I can't wait till nightfall, so Skol!
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*could he be the moderate Moslem? The one we've all been desperately seeking?

Posted by: unicorns62000 at October 3, 2006 4:34 PM

Hugh,

how 'bout "Major Alice's adventures in Morningland?" Too long?

I'll try working on your suggested title then. "Twilight of the Eveningland?" [das Land des Laechelns?] On that last part, or " . . . of the Land that is the butt of international Laughter?"

Still too long? Mmmmmm.

I got it! I got it!

"Going Down with Old Glory" we could have as a subtitle " . . . while the band plays on."

Posted by: unicorns62000 at October 3, 2006 4:49 PM

Mohammadians make a big stink out of skipping lunch why arent these pigs frisked for liquid explosives.

Posted by: KAOSKTRL at October 3, 2006 5:24 PM

In the informal sitcom or possibly sittrag title contest, the one I like best so far is The Star Spengler Banner, though Major Alice, at FOB (Forward Operating Base) Blunderland, is giving gloomy unreadable Oswald (no, not that Oswald, he may have been in a book depository but he never wrote a book) a run for his residuals money.

Posted by: Hugh at October 3, 2006 6:02 PM

"Mourners carry the body of Palestinian security force officer Ramadan Ramadan, who was a member of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas' Force 17"

Let me guess, the procession was led by Mohammed Mohammed.

Posted by: Pelayo at October 3, 2006 6:21 PM

Gee, I'm a civilian; I outrank her. Come to think of it, we outrank all those brass hats.

Every time I hear of a major, I think of Bob Newhart in "Catch 22." Major Major Major.

I'm wondering what would have happened if a Lt Col or a full bird one reached for a drink?

Posted by: Pelayo at October 3, 2006 6:45 PM

Perhaps the military needs a special female uniform for duty in Muslim countries. A khaki hijab with no rank insignia showing. That would be great, enlisted men do not have to salute female officers in Muslim countries. AND, every time a female officer issues an order, she has to say "Pretty Please" and "Thank You."

Posted by: Pelayo at October 3, 2006 6:51 PM

An American infidel enforcing Islamic tradition on an apparently secular Muslim!

Please show this know it all military woman another Islamic tradition:

Misogyny

TEXT FROM THE QURAN, 4:34
RODWELL [1]: "Men are superior to women on account of the qualities with which God has gifted the one above the other, and on account of the outlay they make from their substance for them. Virtuous women are obedient, careful, during the husband's absence, because God has of them been careful. But chide those for whose refractoriness you have cause to fear; remove them into beds apart, and scourge them: but if they are obedient to you, then seek not occasion against them: verily, God is High, Great!"
['Refractoriness' means hard or impossible to manage, stubbornly disobedient'].

DAWOOD [2]: "Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme."
PICKTHALL [3]: "Men are in charge of women, because Allah has made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah has guarded. As for those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great."

ARBERRY [4]: "Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God's guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; God is All high, All great."
SHAKIR [5]: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

ALI [6]: "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whom part you fear disloyalty and ill conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance) for Allah is Most High, Great (above you all).

Posted by: Johnathan at October 3, 2006 10:08 PM

Johnathon, thank-you for posting differents ways to say the same thing concerning the Quran. At least you can quote correctly and have a leg to stand on. I appreciate your honesty.
First of all, there is nothing with the major having respect for someones else religions, that is the way it should be. In the Bible, it says, that if you were to sit at a table and you are eating something you are allowed to eat, but you are sitting with someone who thinks that what your are eating is a sin, then if you eat in front of that person, you have committed a sin by making that person weak in his/her faith. People should always be considerate of other people's feelings.
Fasting is recommended in the Bible. Jesus fasted for 40 days and 40 nights and was tempted by Satan. So, what is wrong with fasting? Fasting purges your body from impurities and is healthy. In the 17-18th century, they used to "break their fast", hence comes breakfast. All through the New Testament fasting is recommended for many things. Ramazan means the month that belongs to God. One should refect on many things, and especially one should not gorge in the morning, nor the evening because that defys the whole purpose. It's supposed to give us a better understanding on homelessness, hunger and poverty. One should reflect on the spiritual aspects and not the material of the world, but strive to get closer to God.
Also, if one is traveling outside of 50 miles and will be staying for less than 10 days, one cannot fast, because this can cause harm to the body. If one will be staying more than 10 days, then one needs to fast. The interpretor probably was not staying for 10 days and therefore was not required to fast, but does have to make up the fast at a later time.

Posted by: muslim woman at October 3, 2006 11:04 PM

People should always be considerate of other people's feelings.

Bullshit. People should always say, and do, what they want, wihtin law and reason (neither of which Dar al Islam has). If the Moslems, don't like what we say or do, then they have two options: 1) they can like it or, 2) they can lump it.

Unfortunately, with the Marxist state of our MSM and permanent gubmint nowadays, there is a third option: they can abridge the Constitution and constrain free speech and equal protection, and that is where this cow Moslima is going.

But should we infidels go there?

Hell no. Muslim "Woman" can screw off. Throw her back to the deeply offended humiliated animals with whom she breeds and that't the genetic and cultural onus of her own children, not ours.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at October 3, 2006 11:36 PM

Muslim Woman,

Thank you for the input. However, the passage you paraphrase is from 1 Corinthians 8 deals only with "Christian" brothers. "For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idols temple, will he not be encouraged, if his conscience is weak to eat food offered to idols? And so by your knowledge this weak person is destroyed, the BROTHER FOR WHOM CHRIST DIED. THUS SINNING AGAINST YOUR BROTHERS AND WOUNDING THEIR CONSCIENCE WHEN IT IS WEAK, YOU SIN AGAINST CHRIST." A "Christian brother, for whom Christ died" is a Christian. To be a Christian, you must accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior (His death on the cross must, by faith, become your sacrifice for sins. This is to be justified to a Loving but Holy and Just God).

Biblically, a Christian is to fast upon urging by the Holy Spirit to fast. This was the case with Jesus Christ fasting for 40 days and 40 nights: The Holy Spirit led Him into the wilderness to fast. A Christian cannot, in good conscience, show respect to Islam by joining an Islamic required fast. Islam teaches that "Isa" was not crucified (despite all secular historians and scriptural evidence to the contrary) and claimed to be only a "prophet of Allah". Islam teaches that "Isa" will come back one day and break all crosses and enforce "convert or die" on all Christians. Islam teaches that Christians distorted scripture and that the Koran is the correction. The Koran and Hadiths command hatred and violence against Christians. Christians are to be made "dhimmis" and Islam is to conquer the world.

How in the heck can you possibly argue that Christians should honor Ramadan?????????? That makes as much sense as Christians worshiping Satan.

Posted by: hello123 at October 3, 2006 11:40 PM

The dizzy major wasn't appeasing any Muslims. She is appeasing tenured fruitcake academics back in the homeland.

You know, culturally sensitive, "winning hearts and minds" ivory tower types who understand the world from reading books by other tenured fruitcakes better than we who are doing the heavy lifting and doing the bleeding yokels ever will.

The only question is, why does the President listen to their erudite fantasies? It is not like they are going to ever proudly salute our flag, let alone vote Republican.

Daryl

Posted by: daryl at October 4, 2006 12:29 AM

As the email to Robert was written by "a daily reader", one can only hope that the major has been given the DW URL (this thread in particular) for review.

Perhaps the emailer can check back in to let us know how the major has reacted to the posts.

It is difficult to imagine that she isn't merely doing what a LTCOL told her to do. Surely she knows of Islam's institutionalized misogyny and it's other odious, nonsensical tenets, and would not make up such rules on her own.

'Daily Reader', don't leave us hanging.

Posted by: PRCS at October 4, 2006 2:12 AM

Muslim woman wrote: "So, what is wrong with fasting? Fasting purges your body from impurities and is healthy."

There is nothing wrong with fasting. I have never criticized fasting.

I agree that there are many benefits to fasting...as long as it is done with some moderation and isn't overdone.

As a Roman Catholic, I fast during the season of lent, a spiritual period before Easter that is intended to be a holy time to deepen one's own relationship with God.

For a Christian, sacrifice is a central element of fasting. Jesus Christ made many sacrifices in his own life to reveal his perfect truth to humanity, his love, a cause for great joy and hope.

Posted by: Johnathan at October 4, 2006 2:41 AM

Muslim Woman: No, there is nothing in the world wrong with fasting. We jews fast on Yom Kippur (even when arabs decide to launch attacks on us during our holiest of days, peace loving muslims that they are) and the Fast of Esther, just to name a couple of occasions. However, the difference is that we do not expect of others to fast during our holy days and we are not offended when others eat in our presence during such days of fasting. Nor do we erupt in rage when islamic newspapers print outrageous anti-semitic cartoons of us, nor do we as a result take to the streets screaming death to the infidel until our vocal cords are shot to hell, nor do we strap bombs to our bodies in order to murder as many innocent muslim civilians as possible, nor do we hijack planes and crash them into large buildings or hijack boats at sea and throw muslims overboard, nor do we kill teams at the olympics, nor, nor, nor, nor...

get the picture?

Posted by: bonncaruso at October 4, 2006 3:58 AM

hahahaha!! americans have the best weaponry in the whole wide world but you people go too far out to be politically correct. You have lost the will to take lossess which are bound to happen. you support Saudi arabia and pakistan- the hot bed of terror mongering. your reasons for going to war are right but the execution is all wrong. this is a war of double standards. if only you would enlist indian support on this, the world would have been a better and safer place by now.

ramadan my arse!! a whole lot of muslims here in india scoff at the koran (to parts of it) and couldnt care less about ramadan and what not.
wake up amreekans, its better to be politically wrong than medically dead.

Posted by: bulletkrishna at October 4, 2006 5:25 AM

Here's a website you folks have to see. read the screenplay its pretty good. a lot better than most movies these days.

Posted by: Anti-Jihad-Crusader at October 4, 2006 11:50 AM

It might help if I included the address, huh?

http://ameristan.net/

Posted by: Anti-Jihad-Crusader at October 4, 2006 11:51 AM

A parody to the tune of Live Aid's "Do they know it's Christmas"

Do they know it's Ramadan?

It's Ramadan,
and you infidels should be afraid
At Ramadan,
do jihad with a big beheading blade
And in our world of violence
we banish any art, music or joy
as we wage jihad around the world
at Ramadan time

So say a prayer,
Asses up with the other ones
At Ramadan time it's hard,
but when you're having fun
there's terror outside your window,
as we make a world of dread and fear
Where infidel blood is flowing
with the bitter sting of tears
And no Church bells can ring anywhere
unless they want to face their doom
Well tonight thank Allah it's them
instead of you

And there will be violence in Africa this Ramadan
Raped and enslaved if they keep their life(Oooh)
Where Islam ever grows
And the blood always flows
Be sure they know it's Ramadan for all?

So don't dare raise a glass anyone...
When the muj arive there's no place to run
Yes they'll know it's Ramadan for all.

And we'll breed for Jihad
breed for Jihad
breed for Jihad
and let them know it's Ramadan for all.

Posted by: Provoslavni at October 4, 2006 1:27 PM

Boncaruso, You forget that Jews did condemn "The Passion of the Christ" there was a HUGE outcry all over the US with JEWS. It was on TV, newspapaer, radion and all major magazines. How soon we forget these things.
Muslims DO NOT force anyone to fast, including muslims. Islam is a religion between you and God. Just because someone was turning the other cheek, so to say, how is that wrong?
For the others, maybe one should applaud her efforts instead of degrading her for being a woman, which has nothing to do with her status or anything else. One should applaud her for trying to be sensitive to others. We are CONSTANTLY trying to be sensitive to JEWS, so why not to someone who is not a JEW. Please don't get me started about Isreal and US policies. We should always be sensitives to others needs, not only on one day, but every day. It doesn't matter whether you are a christian or a muslim, or a JEW
By the way, one can't go around saying this means "being a christian brother", and then condemn the Quran for saying "a muslim brother". Whether it's the Quran, Torah, or Bible, the references are for everyone, not just one religious group. God doesn't divide, people do that quite well.

Posted by: muslim woman at October 4, 2006 2:55 PM

Muslim Woman,

You were incorrect in stating the biblical principle of not causing others to sin. The issue of "Christian brother" is not because of hatred toward non-Christians. Unlike Mohammed, Jesus Christ told us to love even our enemy and pray for those who persecute us.

This is the issue: As a Christian, I believe Islam is a false and "made up" religion. It is a religion which kills those Muslims who find the Truth in our savior Jesus Christ. It commands Muslims to hate Christians and Jews. It prevents Muslims from being exposed to the Gospel. YET, it will go to war with any other culture that would seek to do the same thing to Islam. No other nation can prevent the spread of Islam, but Islam is not to reciprocate. Therefore, it is a sin to endorse this evil religion by participating. It is a sin to allow Muslims to believe they are following the Truth, when they are following an evil, violent, hateful lie. It is a sin to allow Muslims to believe they are going to Heaven, when they are actually going to Hell. Particularly if I helped them believe in the false religion by participation.

Think: Mohammed came 600 years after the Bible close. He was illiterate and received bits and pieces of Christianity and Judaism. Interestingly, he was most heavily influenced by a bebunked Catholic cleric. In Truth, Mohammed got it wrong. He claims (in the Koran) that the Old and New Testaments are "true" (Sura 3:7 and 5:45-50). Yet he goes on claim that the Jewish temple never existed (despite much history and archeological proof). Ishmael and not Isaac was the chosen son. He tells us Jesus Christ was not crucified (despite 27 contemporary secular historians authenticating the crucifixion). He tells us the Christian trinity was "Mary, Isa, and God". Etc. etc. etc. At that same time, he put in place the prohibition from criticizing Islam, Mohammed, or Sharia. He said: "If a Muslim changes religion, kill him." He gave hundreds of commands to hate and kill non-Muslims.

I will not participate in Ramadan because I am to love my enemy. That includes Muslims who are commanded to hate and kill me. Part of that love is to help pull them out of the evil cult of death. "Fasting" is something I do all the time as a faithful Christian. However, fasting during Ramadan is evil and sinful for everyone. I love you enough to tell you Islam will lead you to Hell and Heaven comes only through a saving faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Jesus Christ was God's sacrifice for our sins. If we do not accept this sacrifice, then we stand before a Holy and Just God alone. Every sin we have committed in life condemns us to eternal damnation. You cannot "earn" heaven, particularly by killing other human beings (infidels). Heaven comes by Grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

Posted by: hello123 at October 4, 2006 10:25 PM

PRCS,

Sorry to dissapoint. Knot knowing her very well, but getting a certain vibe, I'm sure it would turn out quite badly for me. Especially after she read some of the less erudite postings. I have no issues laying my life down for my faith, my country, my family, but this sort of self inflicted pain would be in vain.

In all fairness to the Major, I’m now positive she was ordered to enforce the “no drinking, it’s Ramadan” rule from the highest levels, as I found out she works on the Generals personal administrative staff. She may have even been grumbling under her breath the entire time, but she executed her mission with thoroughness. It’s obvious she did not see the irony in her actions when confronting the Iraqi.

Reference Hugh's comments, I believe the US Army is giving the Iraqis mixed messages which may or may not make some useful impressions upon them. On one hand, we bend over backwards to be culturally sensitive. We receive regular briefings on their religious observances, the do’s and don’ts around Muslims ect. We take the utmost care in not causing accidental Iraqi casualties, often increasing the risks to our soldiers. We enter mosques only when accompanied by Iraqi forces or taking direct fire from the building. On the other hand, we do routinely act calmly and unapologetically as infidels. We have many women in high positions. The top Provost Marshal, Lawyer, Public Affairs officers in the Multi National Corps are all woman, and visible to their Iraqi counterparts. We never take off our boots when invited into the local muktars house for chia, often tracking in mud and making an awful mess. We plaster posters all over our bases announcing Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, and yes, Jewish worship services (complete with depictions of the cross and star of david) taking place in their country. I have seen soldiers baptized in 1500 year old Christian monasteries in plain view of the Muslim locals. Most soldiers have a solid grasp on the most offensive Arabic curse words, loudly bellowed at recalcitrant locals. There are weekly outdoor Karaoke events, the infidel music blaring away late into the evening with Iraqi barracks a few hundred meters down the road. I often wonder if they secretly enjoy the amateur renditions of Baby Hit Me One More Time. And of course we still shoot Muslims during Ramadan… Conflicting messages indeed.

The heart of the matter as Hugh has so forcefully and repeatedly stated, is Westerners must learn about the true face of Islam and understand the Muslim psychology. I believe few truly do in the US military, as I am humbly just beginning to open my eyes.

Posted by: James at October 6, 2006 11:04 AM

Dear Hello,

"You were incorrect in stating the biblical principle of not causing others to sin. The issue of "Christian brother" is not because of hatred toward non-Christians. Unlike Mohammed, Jesus Christ told us to love even our enemy and pray for those who persecute us."

I never said that "christian brother" was a statement of hatred for muslims. I meant that why can't we say "muslim brother", if the Bible says "christian brother"? Mohammad DID teach us to love our enemy and to pray for those for persecute us.

I understand your issue. Could you explain something to me, if you don't mind. I've been to many churches, Catholic churches and Protestant churches. Out of the Protestant churches, I have been to Eposcopalian, Morman, Baptist and Non-Denominational. What I don't understand is the Catholic churches actively teach that only Catholics are going to heaven. The Protestant churches teach that only Protestants are going to heaven because you have to be dunked in the water. Then, there's the born again christians that say that you have to be born agian to go to heaven. Of course, there's those christians that believe in the Trinity, and those that don't. There's those christians that believe Jesus is the Son of God, and those christians that believe that Jesus IS God. So, who's going to heaven? I personally believe that Mother Theresa is going to heaven as is Ghandi. I believe that there are many paths to heaven and God will judge us for what is in our heart. Can you honestly tell me that a christian who murders will go to heaven by the Grace of Jesus? So, there will be murderers in heaven? That doesn't make sense to me. I'm just trying to understand. I'm not saying that Islam is any different because it's not. There are just as many sects in Islam, and they are say they are right and everybody else is wrong. Who are we to judge and condemn. Only God has that right.
I thank-you for your love and it shows in your post. May God reward you in heaven because I really do feel that you mean what you say.
My three closest friends are born-again christains and we have put aside the differences and focus on what is the same. We love each other enough to put aside those differences and to focus on what God would really want, acceptance, understanding and tolerance. My friends and I have the same moral values, we are teaching our children Godly values. Our family structure is the same, as family and our children are most important. We don't force our religions down each others throat but unconditionally love one another and leave the rest up to God, for God alone can judge us.
Within the next few days, I will post some Quranic verses that DO show that Islam is peace and means peace and that Mohammad was a peaceful man. Remember, that one cannot look at the people for the correctness of the religion for people are only people and sin. One cannot look at the majority of christians to see what christianity is about and the same for Islam. Look at the Crusades in history. They spread by the sword, by force, and forced people to convert, and they carried a flag with a cross on it. I'm not condoning the terrorism, or anything else, and neither do most Muslims. One cannot look at these school shootings and say "well, they represent christianity". So, how can one say that about Islam?

Posted by: muslim woman at October 6, 2006 11:55 AM

The "Aluha Akbars" tend to give the whole thing away, Muslim Women. Didn't read about any of the latest school shooters shouting "Jesus Saves" while committing their atrocities...

Posted by: porksides at October 6, 2006 12:34 PM

Whenever there are bombings in abortion clinics, that is axactly what they do. They go around quoting from the Bible as they drag them off to jail.

Posted by: muslim woman at October 6, 2006 2:33 PM