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October 5, 2006

Fitzgerald: A judgment rooted in ignorance

The teacher, using an instructional guide, told students they would adopt roles as Muslims for three weeks to help them learn what Muslims believe.

She encouraged them to use Muslim names, recited prayers in class, had them memorize and recite a passage from the Quran and made them give up something for a day, such as television or candy, to simulate fasting during the month of Ramadan. – from this news article

What prayers are said? Is the Profession of Faith one of those things that is said? Do little boys and girls say the Shehada, and are then told "now you have done what everyone has to do to become a Muslim"? And if so, is this done under the beaming eye of the teacher? And do the children return home, full of stories about "I recited this prayer and if I want, I can be a Muslim" or "I did just what Muslims do, mom, and it's really neat" or "I really like those prayers, they're just kinda like our prayers so I think the teacher is right, all religions are just the same" or [fill in the seemingly innocent, in reality quite dangerous nonsense]? Those helpless little heads are a captive audience of their teachers, whether those teachers are of the terminally naive variety or the sinister sort. Who suggested this lesson plan? Who's been pushing it?

Neither the judges in the lower courts, nor the Justices of the Supreme Court, know a thing about Islam. They may not realize the psychological effect on young children of having them participate in such a way by not merely studying, but by adopting roles as Muslims. Studying is one thing, if the studying is not simply the usual apologetics and nonsense, focused on such trivia as Ramadan and Iftar and the upright "family values" of Muslims (tell that to Muhammad's Jewish concubine, whose husband, father, brother were killed by Muhammad, or to his Coptic concubine/wife, or to little Aisha and all the little child-brides of today, legalized in Iran and elsewhere, because of Muhammad as the model). Studying should rather focus on the core of Islam that matters so much: the uncompromising division of the world between Believer and Infidel and the endless war between them, which stops only when all obstacles to the dominance of Islam everywhere end, and everywhere Muslims rule.

Would the Supreme Court allow similar indoctrination into any other religion? Would it permit schools to insist that all schoolchildren should study, say, the Baltimore Catechism, and learn to provide the teacher, in a public school, with the memorized answers from that Catechism? How long would that be permitted? Ten seconds?

Where is the ACLU on this? How silly of me to ask, how pointless to wonder.

Like the Executive branch with tarbaby Iraq, and like Congress, which is divided between those who support Bush blindly and those who oppose him equally blindly (with only a handful who see the truth), the Judicial branch of our government thinks it can deal with questions involving Islam without comprehending Islam, without comprehending the psychology of a child who may be affected permanently by a cute little experiment in international living, or rather by a sinister, not innocent, attempt to manipulate minds.

This has to be reconsidered. There must, on the Supreme Court, be one or two capable of comprehending this. There must be one or two who are capable of understanding that Islam is not just a "religion" or, still worse, a religion "of peace and tolerance" or "one of the world's great religions." It is a complete system of regulation of life, a total explanation of the universe, a political and even geopolitical program, together with -- yes -- those Five Pillars of Worship which, of course, are in the damn unit on Islam, the one on World Religions that will make them all equal, but will be especially solicitous (you can bet on it) of Islam, Islam, Islam.

Look at all the gushing bits on television about the observance of Ramadan, and Iftar dinners, and all those articles in every newspaper about "What it Means to be a Young Muslim Woman in America Today" and "What It Means to be a Young Muslim Professional in America Today" and "What It Means to be a Young Arab Muslim In America Today" and "What It Means to be a Convert to Islam Today" and so on.

Seen any articles on Hindus lately? On Buddhists? On Sikhs? Why not? Why don't we see gushing articles about them, or television bites on, say, Hindu festivals and other observances (why can't we find out about those?), or on the Five K's of the Sikhs, or on the lost lamaseries of Lhasa? Why not? Cat got someone's tongue? Or are all those other, peaceful religions, which are entirely unhostile to the political, legal, and moral institutions of the Western world, for that very reason to be treated as non-existent or uninteresting?

My. Perhaps Hindus and Buddhists and Sikhs could tell us a thing or two about Islam -- Islam in India, Islam in Malaysia, Islam in Indonesia. Now and in the past. We might learn something. We might find out that the problem is a bit more than Islam and America, or even Islam and the West.

Islam -- and All the Rest. That's the problem. And the problem is not with all the rest. The odd man out, the causer of the problems whatever other faith it comes up against, is Islam.

Posted by Hugh at October 5, 2006 6:57 AM
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Perhaps all muslim children should receive similar jewish indoctrination.

Posted by: moderationist [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 7:05 AM

I wonder if the Honorable Justices realize how people have died or been forced to become Muslims because of reciting these prayers innocently or as a joke. I wonder if they realize people have died or been forced to embrace Islam for wearing Muslim clothes. It is not just children playacting. And if it is just play and an attempt to understand others, why don't they also try to understand other misanthropic organizations through playacting?

In many churches, for an adult to do these things is grounds for expulsion.

Posted by: St. David, King of Georgia [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 7:24 AM
Perhaps all muslim children should receive similar jewish indoctrination.

Posted by: moderationist at October 5, 2006 07:05 AM


Surely they will convert the moment they learn about the Kiddush Club. Posted by: Shy Guy [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 7:40 AM

My guess is that we're seeing all of these articles, etc., because the Muslim public relations machine is working overtime. I often wonder who they've hired.

Just as "the internet must be fed", so too must the media be fed. If a reporter is handed a soft, feel-good story (via press releases, backgrounders and readily available contacts) and if it has the added bonus of appealing to the immigrant population (the vast, "untapped" market), s/he will be pleased. This is the kind of story that can be filed and used without a deadline, so news agencies like them, too, because they fill the spaces between hard news stories.

The only way to counter such a public relations push is with another one. But other religious organizations have to 1) feel the need to do P.R. and 2) have the funds to do it. Public relations people and departments cost a lot of money and are often the first things cut from a budget.

Public relations has obviously been made a huge priority within Muslim organizations.

Posted by: Josephine [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 7:58 AM

If islam is supposed to be a religion, why is it being taught in school?

The only thing the children should learn about ole mo and islam is in the historical context.

Does this teacher have a muslim name or attend mosques?

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 8:23 AM

Moderationist has a point. Perhaps all uncircumcised males in the class should be circumcised. Those who have been done in a hospital can experience the "pinprick" ceremony that some Jewish sects use in conversions. Then, the girls should be taught to use a mikveh, a ritual bath which sanctifies female sexuality within marriage.

I would also like to see the Hindu version of creation taught in schools - where dry land is separated from water by Ganesha interposing himself between the waters and the ground.

I would like to see how a court, or the school system, would handle these.

If the public schools cannot be trusted to teach literacy and numeracy, why should anyone allow these same schools to teach classes regarding any religion?

chsw

Posted by: chsw [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 9:15 AM

We're plain stupid.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 9:37 AM
WHERE are the parents on this???

Don't they have any say as to whether or not their children should even participate in such absurdity???


The parents sued the school to stop it. A judge said it was ok claiming it wasn't religious indoctrination (we all know that wouldn't have been the ruling if the school was teaching Christian doctrine), and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals (long known as the wackiest liberal federal courts in the land) upheld the ruling. The US Supreme Court refused to hear the case, so the ruling stands and the school is free to do as it wishes. Posted by: aynrandgirl [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 11:43 AM

I am with American in Germany! I wouldn't stand for this for one minute. This is not education; it is indoctrination.

To A Plague, don't include me in that collective 'we'. Thank you.

Posted by: lonewolf [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 1:24 PM

I saw a video on YouTube about the youngest (get this) reverts not converts to islam. Two little girls in the UK ages 9 and 12 went to a mosque to see their friends and have been indoctrinated. Their mother went to find one of them named Ashley, when she got to the mosque she asked for Ashley. The woman who could hardly speak english asks "you mean Ayisha?" The kid took that name when she "reverted" without the mother's knowledge. They think it is stylish to play muslim. Just wait until some crazy tries to sneak one out of the UK to marry his close realtive.

Posted by: Phximan [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 1:38 PM

"God is not Your God"

If you don't understand, please read this:

www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=24768

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 2:29 PM

Here's a proper way to teach izlam in our schools:

http://alfin2200.blogspot.com/2006/09/modest-proposal-day-under-islam.html

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 2:31 PM

If islam is supposed to be a religion, why is it being taught in school?

Posted by: freewoman at October 5, 2006 08:23 AM

Simple-the Court of Apalls has decreed this to be the one true religion and being as such it's OK to teach it. Wait til this spreads all over the place-every kid will be able to recite the Koran mindlessly while computing 2+2=72 and issuing fatwas against their infidel parents.

So long Constitution-it was nice knowing you.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 3:09 PM

Today's lesson, children, is in Taqiyya. Can you say it after me, children? TA-KEEEEEEE-YA. Very good.

Now, the first lesson is to forget the word. When somebody asks you about taqiyya, say, "What is taqiyya?" as if you have never heard the word before.

The second lesson, children, if those mean people keep insisting to ask you about taqiyya, is to tell them, "Oh, taqiyya -- that's just an ancient practice of the Shia, it has nothing to do with real Islam."

You will like the third lesson of taqiyya, children, it's going to be fun: gather round with your papier-mâché swords, and we'll draw straws to pick who will be the Muslim apostate, or the Infidel who insulted the Prophet, or simply the villager whose village we have raided in one of our war campaigns to spread the rule of Islam over the world. Okay, Billy drew the short straw. Okay, kids, now practice beheading Billy, just like we practiced yesterday on beheading the goat during our field-trip to the farm! Okay, now children, listen carefully -- here's the important part of today's third lesson in taqiyya: after we behead Billy, we then say, all together, "Islam is a religion of peace! There is no compulsion in Islam!"

Very good, children! You all get a gold crescent for the day! Except Isaac and Rebecca -- they get a yellow star.

Posted by: remote_control [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 3:57 PM

This is happening in northern Californistan so why all the surprise?

Posted by: Hulegu Khan [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 5:57 PM

But no gold crescent for you today remote_control. You did a bad bad thing. You will get to wear the big "K" for kafir hung about your neck all week. And you won't be allowed to sit with Isaac and Rebecca at the kaleb yahud table in the lunch room either. They're "children of the Book." But you remote will eat off a plate on the floor.

Posted by: unicorns62000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 5, 2006 11:49 PM

This program is not just being taught in Northern California. It's part of the state approved curricullum that is being used throughout the state. And it's also being used in other states as well.

Neither parental permission nor knowledge is required as it is part of a world culture teaching unit. Christianity is not a culture, but a religion, so is therefore banned from school. Islam is considered an entire way of life constituting a culture, thus is okay to be taught. I say hogwash.

The program was written by two Wahab Muslims who are not educators, but rather propagandists for the Saudi government and Wahabi Islam sect. They have also successfully had US and World History textbooks rewritten to reflect goodness upon Islam. Gone is the whole history of conversion by the sword, introduced is Spain "inviting" Muslim Moors onto the Iberian Pennisula and the Golden Age of Islam. Nevermind that it's all a crock.

The whole project has been largely successful because most parents are ignorant of history and tend to trust the schools to do right by their children. They have no idea what is between the covers of the textbooks. One US History text used in California has three paragraphs dedicated to Geaorge Washington and three pages for Marilyn Monroe. No wonder kids have no concept of America's place in the world.

Posted by: Indigo Red [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 6, 2006 1:50 AM

Hello, Indigo Red! Fancy seeing you here!

This is very grim news, indeed... No wonder these kids are coming out of schools as self loathing Lefties.

Posted by: atheling [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 6, 2006 3:47 AM

I've been very depressed and pessimistic about the direction things are headed in America ever since I "woke up" to the dangers of islam. What makes it especially difficult is that most people just don't have any clue what's going on. Nor do they care. Europe is well on it's way to being islamic and eventually, odds are, we will head that way too (American families who have 1-2 children on average just cannot compete with the numbers of kids in islamic families). We will be bred to death.

The world is headed downhill fast and most people are blissfully ignorant of what's happening. All you hear is that Republicans are evil pedophiles and that conservatives are no better than terrorists.

This country is going to kill itself through stupidity--so am I allowed to secede from the union all by myself?

Posted by: redshirt [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 6, 2006 6:52 PM

Hugh asks where the ACLU is on this. I wonder that also, however more damning is that the Supreme Court

The U.S. Supreme Court rejected an appeal Monday by evangelical Christian students and their parents who said a Contra Costa County school district engaged in unconstitutional religious indoctrination when it taught students about Islam by having them recite language from prayers.Can't blame this on the liberuhls.
The world is headed downhill fast and most people are blissfully ignorant of what's happening. All you hear is that Republicans are evil pedophiles and that conservatives are no better than terrorists.posted by: redshirt

Truth must hurt red shirt. You see I'm one of those secular liberals, hence a rabid "Islamophobe", cause Islam and the Christian Right have too much in common for my taste and for the sake of a civilized society.. No thanks to Shari'a, no thanks to Noachide laws, no thanks to Mosaic Laws, no thanks to Dominionism or self righteous triumphalist exclusivism in any form.

Time to clean up the so called conservative act, and get back to the principles of Barry Goldwater, and less you think I'm a leftie, although I can agree on some issues, I deplore their obsessive stupidity as much as I deplore the obsessive stupidity of that which calls itself "conservative" or the Right, today.

And unless both sets of morons get a grip and grow up, the U.S. will indeed self destruct and be handed to the Muslims and our friends from South of the Border.

Posted by: Nariz [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 6, 2006 9:24 PM

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