Obviously the students were highly ignorant of Islam since they didn't kill the girl. They need more education.

Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop at October 8, 2006 7:05 AM

Good thing muslims deplor violence ‎

Posted by: KAOSKTRL at October 8, 2006 7:38 AM

Rama-dama-ding-dong is upon the world. Duck!

Posted by: DCWatson at October 8, 2006 8:10 AM

"Jeune fille bien lapidee."

Meanwhile, Sarkozy, the great hope of too many, shares the breaking-the-fast dinner ("jeune" with a circonflex over the "u") with assorted Muslim notables, and utters ridiculous pieties. He invites comparison with Chirac and D. de V., and gains by the comparison. But that is not enough. As his attitude toward the squatters shows, as his statements show, he is not strong enough, not self-assured enough, not implacalbe and cunning enough.

But perhaps he will become so. Or others will force him to become so.

Posted by: Hugh at October 8, 2006 8:12 AM

So here we have a "religion of peace" which somehow gives its children the impression that they have the right to throw stones at another child. Maybe these oily spokesmen for Islam should have done a little more to tell their own people to respect the needs of the girl who was pelted. I wonder if some parents are going to dish out the spankings and talkings-to that the little perps deserve; or if they're going to pat them on the head and say, "Remember, we have to keep fooling the stupid Kufrs."

Posted by: Kepha at October 8, 2006 8:43 AM

I would have felt better if they had assured us that those who do not wish to observe Ramadan are exempt from being pelted with stones.

Posted by: AnneCrockett at October 8, 2006 8:43 AM

Makes me want to hand out Snickers and encourage a protest of synchronized "haram" munching.

Unbelievable.

Posted by: GoldieLox at October 8, 2006 8:50 AM

And if she'd be feeling well she'd be obliged to observe Ramadan - in France?

And it would be OK to stone her if she doesn't?

If French law has any significance in France it shouldn't really matter what the Koran says to judge the case. Or am I missing something?

Posted by: rahel at October 8, 2006 9:12 AM

The article never says if she is even Muslim or not.

Was she?

Posted by: CrazyFool at October 8, 2006 9:15 AM

Well, I dunno, Hugh. If Sarkozy is going to go to war with the "disaffected youth" of the suburbs he's got to keep some bridges in the Islamic community. Politicians lie for a living, you know, and I have a little faith (and I hope it's not misplaced) in French treachery.

I'm curious about the unemployment rate in the Muslim areas. Has anyone done a study to find out how many are unemployed because they refuse to work for (i.e. take orders from) a dhimmi?

Posted by: AbuNudnik at October 8, 2006 9:34 AM

CrazyFool wrote, "The article never says if she is even Muslim or not."
Not too sure what you meant by your comment.

How could it possibly even matter whether she was Muslim or not???

If she was Muslim, then they had every right to bury her up to her neck and stone away?!

Or, maybe just a warning if she wasn't for offending the sensibilities of Muslims around her.

Posted by: McCain2008 at October 8, 2006 11:05 AM

"He deplores the ignorance of the pupils, who should be taught the Koran at school"

The answer is always more Islam.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at October 8, 2006 11:48 AM

Now, this is truly in the realm of insanity. This raises the question, why did they throw stones? Could it be that they were taught to stone people (or saw people stoned) for un-Islamic behavior?

If France has any sense, they would find out where the kids learned this behavior (probably from sermon in a Mosque) and deport whoever is responsible.

Posted by: non-redneck at October 8, 2006 1:00 PM

Nice cartoon accompanying that story!

Posted by: Null at October 8, 2006 1:54 PM

I think we should treat muslims with their own methods, therefore I recommend any french person to stone the muslim guys that remotely think about sex during ramadan.

Since i am sure male teenagers do so, I recommend the stoning to start very soon.

Posted by: StillFedUp at October 8, 2006 3:11 PM

Pieces of rocks flying through the air at a little girl whom they wanted to peacefully murder, the rocks are messangers of peace peace be to you have another rock don' you just love the pieceful religion.

Posted by: mark52 at October 8, 2006 4:28 PM

CrazyFool said

The article never says if she is even Muslim or not.

The original article in French doesn't say either. It's kind of a toss-up: usually, in MSM coverage of jihadist attacks, not mentioning the person's (usually, the attacker's) religion means that they are Muslim, which the papers do not want to report. That might suggest that she is Muslim.

But on the other hand, in this case since it is the victim we're talking about, if she were Muslim the MSM would probably highlight that fact, so that we infidels see it as an internecine affair, none of our business really, skip ahead to the sports section. They didn't, so that might suggest she is not Muslim.

Trying to read what the media is not telling us is getting more and more complicated.

Posted by: special_guest at October 8, 2006 6:02 PM

Voltaire observed (concerning Crazy Fool's comment), " Well I'd like to know if she was muslim or non-muslim, because I want to know if non-muslims in France are expected to observe ramadan as well."

Exactly.

And I thought 'getting stoned' at school was a troublesome social issue when my children were school aged (and, believe me, it was troublesome). Good heavens but who could have imagined this utter awfulness?

Posted by: Daisytoo at October 8, 2006 6:23 PM

She was Muslim, but she was allowed by Islam rules to not follow the fasting rules of Ramadan, because she had her period. That's why Azzedine Gaci, the Muslim guy, said that she should not have been pelted, and it would not have happenned if the kids that threw the stones had known the rules of Islam, which means that for the safety of innocent young girls, the French public schools should teach the Coran !!!
Note that the guy did not say that she should not have been pelted , period ( no pun intended!). No , he said that since she actually had a good excuse, she was stoned by mistake !
Are'nt we all feeling much better ???
No wonder that private schools in France ( i.e. mostly catholic schools) are welcoming so many new students nowadays !

Posted by: brubos at October 8, 2006 6:35 PM

then i suppose she would have to prove to the guys that she really had her period...

Posted by: StillFedUp at October 8, 2006 6:43 PM

Yeah, I guess Muslim girls that have their period in France should just wear an insigna, like a used Tampon boutoniere, just to make sure they don't get stoned when they eat a croissant !

Posted by: brubos at October 8, 2006 6:50 PM

stop all this crap !!
lets roll & take them on !!!

Posted by: cosmicAvenger at October 8, 2006 6:58 PM

Now how could anyone misunderstand the beauty that is Islam after reading such a heartwarming story? One would think this story came out of the Dark Ages but the references to Ramadan and the Koran brings one back to the present. Good thing France is so tolerant of Islam-who wouldn't want a repeat of this sort of thing?

Sometimes I wonder if the world wasn't bombed back to the Stone Age given the way Islam behaves.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at October 8, 2006 7:10 PM

What a horrible and cruel religion, devoid of any sort of compassion and mercy - not only for non-adherents, but even for its own followers. It is a black and empty ideology created by a self deceived madman. As much as I abhor the violence committed by those followers who practice it, I do feel sorry for people raised in that culture. As children, they grow up not knowing anything else, and any search for something different, any deviation from the shackles of this brainwashing 'religion' equals persecution and death.

(Not that this in any way excuses the violence or the people who commit it!) But as Christian, I need to remember to pray for these people. They truly are enslaved to darkness.

Posted by: Mo at October 8, 2006 8:42 PM

First, they came for the children. But I did not protest, because I was not a child.

Then, they came for the....

Posted by: SCV at October 9, 2006 12:13 AM

"Has anyone done a study to find out how many are unemployed because they refuse to work for (i.e. take orders from) a dhimmi?"

And how many don't work because they feel too weak to work during ramadan?

Posted by: Lili at October 9, 2006 12:59 AM

Regardless of whether she is Muslim or not, she's in France, and isn't legally required to fast, as she might have been had she been in, say, Algeria. It's pathetic that the media thinks that it's okay to force Muslim expatriates to follow Islam. While most of them have converted Eurabia into Mohammedan ghettos, quite a number of them have actually fled from Islamic regimes. While it's fair for leaders in bilad ul kafir to question whether or not that should be allowed, to expect that forcing Islam down anybody's throat - Infidel or Muslim - is outrageous. When this war actually becomes public, all members of the fourth estate need to be dispatched to meet either Allah or hellfire.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at October 9, 2006 1:09 AM

No, the Koran should not be taught in these schools. If it was taught then the children would be even more violent.

I am not sure that this was a Catholic school. The majority of the children are Muslim at the school. That means that there would be enormous pressure being placed upon all of the girls to participate in the fasting of Ramadan.

I have begun doing a lot more in the way of comparison between my own Christian (Catholic) faith and Islam. So far being a Catholic keeps coming up trumps. This time my comparison, based upon the Scripture, takes me to what Jesus said about how to fast and to pray.

This verse from Luke's Gospel was directed at the Pharisees, Scribes and Sadducees, but I do think that it has relevance in our own time:

"Beware of those teachers of the Law who like to be seen in long robes and love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to take reserved seats in the synagogues and places of honour at feasts. They even devour the property of widows while making a show of long prayers. They will receive a very severe sentence." (Lk 20:46-47)

During the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus also said the following:

"Be careful not to make a show of your righteousness before people. If you do so, you do not gain anything from your Father in heaven. When you give something to the poor, do not have it trumpeted before you, as do those who want to be seen in the synagogues and in the streets in order to be praised by the people. I assure you, they have been already paid in full...

When you pray, do not be like those who want to be seen. They love to stand and pray in the synagogues or on street corners to be seen by everyone...

When you pray, do not use a lot of words, as the pagans do, for they hold that they more they say the more chance they have of being heard. Do not be like them...

When you fast, do not put on a miserable face as do the hypocrites. They put on a gloomy face, so people can see they are fasting... because you are not fasting for appearances or for people, but for your Father who sees beyond appearances..." (Mt. 6:1-17)

I chose to use only the parts that emphasize that we are told not to put on a public display with regard to prayer and fasting. However, in the practice of Ramadan I see the opposite taking place. What is so wrong about the girl being stoned at school, is that she has been seen to be not conforming with her peers. This is going in the opposite directions to the instructions that were in fact given to us by the Son of God!!!

As I said, when I begin to make these contrasts, using the Scripture, and not what we have done in our human sinfulness, I see that Islam is not the way to reach the Kingdom of Heaven. When I hear about a young girl being attacked because she ate during Ramadan, then I do call this Scripture to mind, and thus I query the alleged directions given to Mohammed by an alleged Allah.

Posted by: Maggie4Life at October 9, 2006 1:12 AM

===>>>I am not sure that this was a Catholic school

I am sure this was not. A cahtolic school would not be called College Jean Mermoz ( who was an aviator). I just mentioned that it's no wonder so many French parents are puting their kids in private schools, even if they have no interest whatsoever in the Catholic faith. They simply want to take their kids out of the public system, where this kind of problem is becoming more and more prevalent. Sure, that girl was Muslim, but in schools where Muslims are predominant, it won't be long before everybody will feel the pressure to start following Ramadam rules even if they're not Muslim. Bullying will very easily make you do things like that ! And many teachers are just too scared to react .

Posted by: brubos at October 9, 2006 9:43 AM

Lili

"And how many don't work because they feel too weak to work during ramadan?"

Quite a few, I have heard the ones in government offices just sit at their desks looking sick. That is when they are not down in the prayer room, so work wise they are pretty much written off for the month. Most governmant offices now circulate information sheets to all staff explaining ramadan so they can unterstand why the Muslims are not doing much.

Posted by: Fred at October 9, 2006 11:15 AM

Islam is a culture of violence and hate, pure and simple. It is directed at many targets, for any number of reasons.
The bottom line is: If the iman and madrassas can imbed enough Qur'anic hate-based rhetoric in the minds of the believers, then any real, or perceived, slight of Islam is worthy of maiming or death.
I guess the eight year-old in Iran who had his hands run over by a truck as a punishment for stealing bread is a prime example of the mercy of Islam.
According to Qur'anic law, he could have had his right hand cut off, just as the Taliban used to do at the public executions in the soccer stadium in Kabul.

Posted by: cactus at October 9, 2006 12:58 PM

Brubos wrote:

Yeah, I guess Muslim girls that have their period in France should just wear an insigna, like a used Tampon boutoniere, just to make sure they don't get stoned when they eat a croissant !
...................

But if she did that it would be immodest, and then you would have to stone her...

Whether or not she observes Ramadan should be a private religious matter, not something subject to judgment by rock-throwing thugs on the playground.

This is what the school principal must make clear, rather than nattering on about their understanding of Koranic rules.

Posted by: gravenimage at October 9, 2006 11:44 PM

Imagine, if you will, reports of a Jewish student, male or female, being pelted by stones by other Jews for breaking the Yom Kippur or Tish B'Av fasts.

But there's no compulsion in the Islamic religion, eh?

Posted by: waterdragon52 at October 10, 2006 9:33 AM