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This dates from August, and I have a general policy against posting archival material -- after all, if I post everything worthy that's out there, whatever its age, I could spend all day every day doing it and still never catch up. But I have to make an exception for this, as it just was sent to me today by Jihad Watch reader James, and it is, I think, an extraordinary insight into the human cost of Sharia. The Sharia that the jihadists are laboring to impose upon us is the Sharia that cost this boy his mother, and scarred his life forever after.
All decent people, all people who still retain an ounce of humanity, should resist it. This is a post from the Iranian the blog of Azadeh Pourzand (thanks again to James): "A letter about Stoning to Death."
A few weeks ago my mother, Mehrangiz Kar, wrote an article about stoning to death in Iran. She received many different feedbacks for her article that was published in Farsi. Among those responses we found an astonishing letter from an anonymous person whose mother was stoned to death twenty six years ago. Since the strength of the words of this letter paralyzed my body and mind for a few minutes, I decided to quickly translate the text.According to Article 83 of the Islamic Penal Code of Iran, stoning to death has been declared a permissible punishment for a few different types of adultery.
Hello.I read your recent article about stoning to death.
Reading your article reminded me of the bleeding bruises in my heart once again.
You wrote about murdering by stoning?
Have you ever held a bloody tool in your hands with which they have murdered your mother?
Have you ever touched the bloody skin and hair of your mother who has just been killed in a deep hole?
Have you ever followed the line of your mother’s blood in order to find her corpse thrown at the back of a truck?
Have you ever seen the fresh grave of that dearest being with a small piece of paper on which they have written her name wrapped around a small branch of tree?
Has anyone ever said a word about the children of the people who have been stoned to death?
I was fourteen and now I am forty.
To quote psychologists, I am one of the most fortunate people on this planet. I am fortunate, because despite this contempt in my life I have been able to continue my higher education and find myself a wife, children and a credible job without letting a single black spot remain in my life.
Do you even understand what it means to be the child of a person who has been shamefully stoned to death?
If Islamic clerics tell you that you could not win over the Islamic laws, they have, indeed told you the truth.
My mother used to tell me that she had become a sex-worker in order to feed us and to support us. She used to command us in being real men.
She used to tell us to stand on our own feet and to never lose our hope in Ali (the first imam in shiasm).Seriously who would want to sell her body, to sell her sex to
anonymous men except for those women who have no other way of feeding their children?If the husband knows how to make money, the wife and the mother of the family does not have to go and seek customers.
The economic situation needs to improve and single mothers or those mothers whose husbands do not have the ability or the willpower to work, should be able to seek help from the government.
You must establish an organization for supporting these women. It does not have to be a very rich organization in the beginning. No one has the right to condemn you for seeking financial support from different sources for these types of support organizations. Women like my mother who was eventually stoned to death need your help. They need the world’s help and support. Their forgotten families, too, need the world’s help. Help them!
Executing people for having not immoral actions is not going to have an effective result.
Tell me how many people have been executed and stoned to death since the beginning of the Islamic Revolution in Iran…What is the result of all of this violence other than the fact that the evil is now truly dominating our society?
I never forget the last words of my mother’s Islamic judge:
“I issued a verdict for stoning this woman to death so that other individuals learn a lesson from her doomed fate and to avoid sins of such nature. To execute by shooting would not have made her suffer enough!”
Alas. Twenty six years ago my mother was stoned to death before my eyes. Has these women’s tragic fate helped our society improve?
Statistics show that the rates of prostitution and corruption have increased exponentially.God bless you!
Posted by Robert at October 20, 2006 4:45 PM
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4They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
6This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
10When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
John 8:4-11
Posted by: storagemanager![[TypeKey Profile Page]](http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/nav-commenters.gif)
at October 20, 2006 5:33 PM
I forced myself to watch a video on You Tube in which several different Iranian women were stoned to death after being wrapped like mummies and plugged into holes in the earth.
To watch the bloodied bodies bending and writhing in pain was bad enough, but I couldn't help wondering on the effect it was having on the children and young adults who were doing the stoning.
The Muzlim religion is completely depraved. The violence that it mandates against "the enemies of allah" insures an endless crop of sadistic killers.
The evil of this religion reached right through my computer screen and snagged me too. Because after watching the video, I further lost my common human empathy. A muzlim is no longer human in my eyes. I hate what izlam has made me become: genocidal.
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at October 20, 2006 5:45 PM
Jimmy Carter, "Mr. Human Rights" should be forced to read this. He was the one that sold out his friend the Shah, paving the way for this sort of atrocity to occur. As bad as the Shah might have been, it's safe to say the current regime of A-Nut and those of his predecessors going back to Satan Khomeini have been far worse.
Thanks for the memories Jimmy.
at October 20, 2006 5:48 PM
There is one advice of his mother that this Iranian would do well to not just ignore, but downright flush down the mental latrine:
She used to tell us to stand on our own feet and to never lose our hope in Ali (the first imam in shiasm).Stoning is something that came right out of Mohammed, overriding the fact that even Jews were embarrassed about that facet of their faith, and ignored it. There is nothing that Ali ever did to override Mohammed. Therefore, despite what his mom may have taught him, if this person is really committed to honoring her memory, he should do it by mentally ridding himself (and if possible, his family) of Islam.
In FaithFreedom's Leaving Islam page, I read about one Turkish woman whose pregnant sister was stoned to death, rather than allow her to marry the man who had made her pregnant. It also had the picture of an Iranian woman being buried waist deep in preparation for stoning. In their Iran page, if I recall right (can't link to it right now, since FaithFreedom is designated a hate site by our office service provider), they show a contrast of how independent Persian women were during the Median dynasty (Cyrus the Great) vs. the same preparation for stoning picture I mentioned above.
It's ironic that if one takes these Islamic countries from where they are today to the 6th century, they'll be much better off - regardless of whether they were part of the Byzantine or the Sassanid empire.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at October 20, 2006 5:59 PM
After one reads a horrific story like this it's easy to say about those sharia countries "bomb them back to the Stone Age". Then one realizes the awful truth-they're already living in the Stone Age. To say they live in the Dark Ages would be modernizing them too much.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at October 20, 2006 6:51 PM
And we condemn Satan worshippers?
Are they any worse than muslims?
In 1989 the government granted tax exemptions for Satanists - a position the ACLU has supported.
From the website of the Church of Satan:
5.1. How can I become a member of the Church of Satan?
We don't solicit memberships; however, if you wish to join us, to show your support or appreciation, you can become a Registered Member. Write a letter to P. O. Box 499, Radio City Station, New York, NY 10101-0499, USA, with a self-addressed stamped envelope (or include two International Reply Coupons, if you live outside the US) and ask for our membership information. You can also download and print the form from many web sites on the WWW. The Church of Satan accepts members from all over the world.
For a one-time registration fee of one hundred dollars, you will receive a crimson card declaring you a member of the Church of Satan. No further dues will be expected.
You'll also receive a questionnaire. Filling out the questionnaire indicates your more serious interest in our organization. By completing and returning it, you will be included in our E-Bulletin List so you can receive announcements pertinent to your affiliation.
[end of quote]
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/religions/satanism/cos/
________________________
Speaking as an agnostic, if we don't have the balls and brains to outlaw a "Church of Satan", this bodes ill for our ability to do the same with Islam.
-- remote control
at October 20, 2006 7:40 PM
TV Remote
I think it's arguable that a Church of Satan is worse than Islam - particularly given the details you've provided. In the former case, one gets a crimson card, and a follow-up questionnaire re: one's seriousness, and at worse, e-mail announcements. With the latter, one needs to attend a mosque, demonstrate ones loyalty to Arab supremacy and hatred for all others (do the Satanists have that?), and a resultant campaign - political, cultural and militant - against non-members.
Looks like a no-brainer to me.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at October 20, 2006 7:44 PM
She was stoned to death by religious people acting in the name of religion.
Unfortunately, President Bush still doesn't get it.
One must wonder how he rationalizes his beliefs in light of the facts.
Posted by: PRCS at October 20, 2006 8:34 PM
When the Church of Satan actually pulls Lucifer out of the hat and starts killing people en masse in real life(as opposed to movies) then it might stand comparison to Islam.
But it will have to do it for a very LONG time to catch up with the Isalmic body count.
In other words it is a stupid comparison and no matter what I think about religion, the freedom of religion act allows the Church of satan to exist so long as it kills no one.
Can the same be said for islam as it seems to be often a reason for killing people and should be removed for the protection it has via the Freedom of religion acts.
at October 20, 2006 11:45 PM
After the very first post on this thread by storemanager nothing else needs to be said. That one post points up the compleat difference between us and them and how infinitely superior we truly are despite our shortcomings.
This one story alone demonstrates my oft-stated contention - it is the devil that moslems worship, not God.
Dominic.
Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at October 20, 2006 11:58 PM
According to an apocryphal elaboration of the incident related by storagemanager, each of the men present looked over Jesus' shoulder to see what He was writing, and each saw his secrets written in the dust. They crept away in shame.
PCRS, how do you rationalize your beliefs in light of the results of irreligious humanism in the 20th century? An evil person needs only the lightest excuse to do as he wants, and religion is not the only excuse or the worst. Do you believe that the same motives impel Mother Teresa or Albert Schwiezer on one hand and the stone-throwers or Torquemada on the other? Do you really think they worship the same God?
There is a spiritual arrogance in those who pretend to know what God would do if only He weren't so busy, and so take it upon themselves to do it for Him. I can't understand why they don't realize that they are presuming limits on His loving mercy; or understand that this is no better than questioning His goodness, wisdom, power, presence, creation, or justice. Frankly, I fear His judgment and hope for His mercy. If there are others who only want divine justice in all its rigor, let them have it themselves.
Posted by: Mitch at October 21, 2006 12:07 AM
PRCS
re. Bush: He probably doesn's feel he has to justify his views (presumably you are talking about his religious views). As a christian, I am less than 100% sure that Bush is a Christian also, but I would not presume to hold a definite opinion about this because (like you) I don't know the guy personally. If indeed he is a Christian, he might realize that Christianity's attitude to wrong-doing is vastly different from any other religion (see post no. 1 above). In our belief, the sin of the world has been paid for (so that justice's demands are met) by God himself in the person of his Son Jesus Christ who died a death on a cross (probably at least as horrific as being stoned), and all you would have to do (if you were interested in escaping that ever present vague guitly feeling about nothing in particular that makes you so grumpy), is to accept His substitution in your stead. We seem so arrogant sometimes because we are free, truly believing that our sins (being many) have been obliterated by Christ...not to give us license to now sin all the more, but to keep us constantly grateful, cheerful, careful (not to abuse the privilege) and keen to share this great free gift.
Posted by: yfi at October 21, 2006 12:59 AM
Just wandering - if Russians declared Communism an official religion, called daily "polit-information" a sermon - or, say, canonised Lenin & Stalin within Russian Orthodox Church - would that make Communist eligible for tax exemption?
Just imagine - Cold War declared "Racism", "scaremongering" and "Commifobia", visiting Soviet Union to study in the KGB Academy seen as a fundamental human right, accepting Soviet oil money doesn't prevent one from issuing demands on behalf of Americans, the list can go on.
Posted by: Terry Crane at October 21, 2006 1:06 AM
Mother E.
Allah is Satan, huh? Believe in him do you? Why you must, I guess, because you talk like him. Perhaps have been spending a little too much time in his company?
If you believe in Satan do you believe in God? and are you aware that He said "Do not murder?"
Do you care?
Satan hates human beings because they were made in the image of God. His main aim is to destroy this image and cause human beings to defile and debase themselves with any means available: wether they do this by addiction, imorality, HATE, selfish egotism, delusions of grandeur and power, (the list goes on), is of no consequence. All of these destroy who you were created to be. Of course you are supposed to "feel sorry for" this teenager...sorry enough to help via becoming aware, activism, even practical support for organisations who reach out to people without supporting suicidal/genocidal philosophies. The people ensnared by Islam are deluded for sure: deluded victims of evil. Have mercy, "mother"!
at October 21, 2006 1:10 AM
Unspeakable.
And now, a moment of sympathy for families whose mothers died in criminal abortions.
Posted by: icyblonde at October 21, 2006 1:38 AM
And for the families whose brothers and sisters died in criminal abortions.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at October 21, 2006 1:47 AM
There is a story of a certain officer in the British corps in India, who happened upon a group of natives who were about to set a widow on fire in the then usual practice of sutee.
It is said the officer stopped the natives for m their intended mischief, and when the natives protested that they were only following their cultural practice, the officer replied,
"Of course, but in my culture we hang fellows who do that sort of thing."
There is no moral equivalence between the medieval practices of shira and civil society. Acting in the name of G-d is no excuse. We need the courage and conviction of the unnammed officer in making very clear to these monkeys that such behavior is not tolerated.
Posted by: DelundumEstSaudiArabia at October 21, 2006 5:44 AM
Infidel Pride & Remote_control,
I suspect that most Satanists are simply disturbed individuals who use it as a self-justification for their sick impulses while Satanist leaders like Anton LaVey were just in it for the sex and money.
The difference between them and the Muslims is that Satanists are not trying to forcibly convert people or impose their ideology on whole countries. The exception here is that many Satanists are naturally drawn into neo-Nazi cults as well.
However, at least the Satanists are honest about worshiping the devil and don't try to masquerade him as god under the name of Allah. So as sick and pathetic as Satanists are, they're not nearly as much of a threat as Islam.
Posted by: Provoslavni at October 21, 2006 12:24 PM
Delendum,
Absolutely. When there's something in it for them, i.e., not getting hung, they pay attention. A good deterrent.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at October 22, 2006 1:22 AM
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