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Surprise, surprise -- an unusual comment from a Christian leader, and an entirely predictable response. "O'Brien urges Muslims to say sorry for 9/11," by Eddie Barnes in The Scotsman, with thanks to all who sent this in:
THE leader of Scotland's Roman Catholics, Cardinal Keith O'Brien, has called for Muslims to apologise for the 9/11 and 7/7 bomb attacks, declaring that the public should not have to live "in fear of attack" from believers of the Islamic faith.In a move that has provoked a storm of outrage, the cardinal claims that, as the Pope apologised for the offence caused last month by his comments on the Islamic faith, so Muslims should now step up and say sorry for the attacks carried out in the name of their faith.
O'Brien said: "There have been no apologies for the shooting of the nun [in Somalia after the Pope made his remarks], let alone for 9/11 or the London bombings. I would like to see some reciprocal moves from the Islamic side. We shouldn't have to live in fear of attack from Muslims."...
Last night, the cardinal's views on Islam had stirred up a new controversy, with Muslim leaders furious at the comment. They claimed that as the terrorist attacks were carried out by extremists, mainstream Muslims who had already condemned the actions had nothing to apologise for.
Sure they do, until they expel the "extremists" from their ranks and adopt comprehensive programs to combat "extremist" theology.
Posted by Robert at October 23, 2006 8:27 AM
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I've said this so many times in the past:
"Islam means never having to say you're sorry."
With apologies to Ali MacGraw and Ryan O'Neal.
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at October 23, 2006 9:04 AM
well it takes one of my countryman to stand up and say the obvious - why has no other leader said this before - these f** peasant c*** should be on their knees begging for forgiveness. I hope this begining the end of the appeasement or should I say the begining of the begining of the end of the apeasement - er sorry abot that !!
Posted by: johnmac at October 23, 2006 9:16 AM
"Last night, the cardinal's views on Islam had stirred up a new controversy, with Muslim leaders furious at the comment. They claimed that as the terrorist attacks were carried out by extremists, mainstream Muslims who had already condemned the actions had nothing to apologise for."
OK--Now we must apologize for this man reqesting an apology??
OK, we are so SORRY for this man daring to ask such a thing--after all, we see how much you "moderate Muslims" disown your killing jihadist brothers and how you protest the acts of terror your brethren do to us--------------NOT!!
Religious toleration has limits--keep pressing like this Muslim "moderates"-- we will have no choice but to deport your rears back to the lands you came here from.
I agree with the viewpoint posted often: Moderate for real or get a one way ticket to Islamic paradise --take your pick which one (we'll even pay for it too--but don't come back).
Posted by: BB at October 23, 2006 9:20 AM
God Bless this heroic Cardinal. May many more Christians stand up like him for the truth.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at October 23, 2006 9:27 AM
What constitutes a "storm of outrage", I wonder? How many "ticked-off" or "offended" quotes does a reporter have to gather before they equal an outrage?
Quotes from two Muslim leaders = a storm of outrage?
It sounds more like a tempest in a teapot.
If two outraged people were protesting the installation of speed bumps on my street, they'd be lucky if one of them was quoted in the local free newspaper. They would not be quoted in the national papers.
The media = the new imam, 24/7. Who needs to wait for the Friday outrage sermons when you can get them every day in the media?
Posted by: Josephine at October 23, 2006 9:28 AM
I am not a Catholic (or anything else, really) but I applaud the remarks made by Cardinal O'Brien. Sadly, judging by the feedback on The Scotsman's web site, most people who left a comment do not.
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at October 23, 2006 10:37 AM
Cardinal O'Brien's anti-dhimmi views make him stick out like a sore thumb in modern Scotland. Earlier this year he "caused controversy among non-Christian faiths by telling them that they needed to realise they live in a Christian country", and has spoken up for marriage and the family. For this, most of the Scottish establishment regard him as a fanatic.
Posted by: Yaffle at October 23, 2006 10:48 AM
Islamic Rage Boy's new poster.
http://www.thenoseonyourface.com/the_nose_on_your_face/2006/10/islamic_rage_bo_1.html
at October 23, 2006 11:17 AM
God bless Scotland, the Scots and Keith O'Brien!
On a light note - now I'm going to sip scotch and munch shortbread along with all that Havarti and those Danish butter cookies...tough job that...
Posted by: GoldieLox at October 23, 2006 11:56 AM
Now we'll have "Cardinal Rage" for suggesting this. Doesn't he know that Bush and the evil Zionists did that 9/11 deal and that Islam is the only victim of that?
Stop the world,I want to get off now.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at October 23, 2006 12:11 PM
At least once every week, a different prominent person in the west should say something perfectly reasonable that enrages the uorld of Islam.
This would provide the billion or so haters with a shifting target rather than a seemingly isolated figure on which to vent their spleen, as happens at the moment.
It would also devalue their 'rage' so that it would be seen for the contrived or knee jerk response that it is.
Finally it would make all the yellers, flag and effigy burners and placard wavers look like a bunch of permanently hopping mad loonies with nothing better to do.
Even the fact that several of them will end up killing kaffirs to show their displeasure will help hasten the moment when all westerners finally realise that they are dealing with patently brutal and inferior 'civilisation'.
Come on political, religious and cultural leaders - do your duty!
Posted by: wallyUK at October 23, 2006 1:04 PM
"They claimed that as the terrorist attacks were carried out by extremists, mainstream Muslims who had already condemned the actions had nothing to apologise for".
And 2oth/21st century Catholics have nothing to apologize for regarding the Crusades or the Inquisition, or Galileo.
What these people, whose moral development is stunted by Islam, overlook, is that apologies like what's asked for here do not mean that one has personally done wrong, only that one regrets what happened and would not want the same thing to happen again. It's that simple.
I'm sure that these same "mainstream Muslim leaders" are only too happy to continue to reproach today's Christians for the Crusades when any opportunity arises.
at October 23, 2006 1:19 PM
Nice one, Wally, I like that idea.
Posted by: Paul at October 23, 2006 4:35 PM
Muslims have always demanded that the Pope apologise for the Crusades, though there was never any need for such an apology, as the Crusades was a defensive maesure against the continuous Jihad by Islam. Again, the Crusades were done a long time ago, and if one goes by the arguements of Muslims, present day Christians have no need to apologise.
But all such arguments are of no use when dealing with Muslims. They are guided by the principle that they are doing allah's work in Islamising the Kaffirs. It is all part of allah's plan and there is no point for Infidels to complain.
Then ofcourse, if we continue being critical, there is always the Mohammed Bari option (Secretary General of the MCB), of unleashing 2 million terrorists.
Muslims also have a much more terrifying option. They can tell us, " Stop your criticism of Islam and Muslims, or else we will leave your Kaffir nations. Then who will take up Welfare budget eh? You Kaffirs didnt think of that did you".
Posted by: DP111 at October 23, 2006 6:41 PM
Wally UK posted: Even the fact that several of them will end up killing kaffirs to show their displeasure will help hasten the moment when all westerners finally realise that they are dealing with patently brutal and inferior 'civilisation'.
And then do what is required. Humanely ofcourse.
Posted by: DP111 at October 23, 2006 6:47 PM
Unsurprisingly, there was not one word in the British broadcast media about this story - well, not one that I could find, I should say.
Dominic.
Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at October 23, 2006 9:52 PM
It goes to show the continued arrogance they are welding over the dhimmis and non-muslims. The muslims can have the right to demand apology from the Pope but the dhimmis have no right to request apology for the atrocities committed by their jihadists.
Posted by: FreedomSeeker33 at October 24, 2006 1:26 AM
Good for Cardinal O'Brien. May all the Catholic Bishops act upon his example and speak out.
Yes, we must demand an apology for the atrocities committed by Muslims in Muslim countries.We must demand an apology for Lockerbie.
Posted by: Maggie4Life at October 24, 2006 5:37 AM
Cardinal O'Brien is truly spot on. Early this morning had seen over at the LGF a video presentation on Youtube.com of Palistinians partying on the day of the 9/11/01 attacks. This should come as no suprise. The non-Muslims have to in west and beyond that there is a two-faced presentation coming from the Muslim community. It is suprising that Youtube still allowed to have that video around and also it goes to show that the Muslim community has a lot of housecleaning to do.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at October 24, 2006 8:25 AM
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