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The BBC elaborates on the common Leftist fantasy that Christians today are just as violent, or more violent, than Muslims, neglecting the implications of the fact that there have been 6,318 Islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11, versus...uh...Tim McVeigh! Eric Rudolph! The Crusades!
By Paul Revoir in the Daily Mail, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:
The BBC are facing accusations of anti-Christian bias after a BBC drama portrayed evangelical extremists murdering Muslims.One Christian group said the corporation had a "sinister" and "malicious" agenda against their faith, while another claimed the BBC1 Spooks programme could be an "incitement to hatred" against them.
The row comes in the wake of recent revelations that senior BBC executives had admitted that the corporation was guilty of bias against Christianity at a special "impartiality" summit.
Christians were outraged by the episode of the drama, which showed a group of evangelical terrorists who carry out a number of attacks on the Muslim community and attempt to spark a religious war in the UK.
The programme also depicted a rogue Bishop, who was also a government advisor, organising the assassination of a radical Islamic preacher.
Christian Voice National Director Stephen Green said: "This could even be incitement to hatred against Christians. It is completely ludicrous and brings the BBC into more disrepute."
Yep. Sure does.
Posted by Robert at November 1, 2006 2:42 PM
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What's the name of this show? The New Fantasy Island?
Good thing the "peaceful ones" are so slow to anger.
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at November 1, 2006 3:13 PM
Wait... where is the part where Christians burn a bus; throw rocks at the police, and burn the British flag, while shouting, "God is great!" ?
at November 1, 2006 3:22 PM
It’s sad that since 9/11, television and movies have almost eliminated the “Muslim terrorist” both in the USA & UK. All the 6000+ attacks done in the name of Islam are not enough to come to a conclusion or even propose a hypothesis. Nor has the elections in Islamic countries (where the so-called extremists win) suggested a trend. The attacks of and since 9/11 have brought dhimmitude as surely as if they had assumed power.
Posted by: JasonP at November 1, 2006 3:23 PM
My recollection is that Timathy McVeigh professed only belief in "a god" and choose
Invictus (vide infra) as his final statement.
Invictus
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.
(I just can't see any sign of Chritianity there.)
Eric Rudolph was a nihilist: "I really prefer Nietzsche to the Bible."
Cheers,
at November 1, 2006 3:46 PM
The BBC is a disgrace. A recent feature on BBC World was about the Patriot Act giving America the right to spy on it's own citizens, and Muslims are the main "victims". The bias shows whenever they get the chance.
Posted by: Dsinc at November 1, 2006 4:13 PM
I believe that Judeo Christian faith is perhaps the only weapon that can resist islamization in the west. A Strong belief in right and wrong and human moralities coupled with pride and one's cultural achievements.
Is is obvious that the BBC is easing the path of Islamism and are playing the part of usefel idiots (or willing executioners) in promoting secular humanism, weak philosophies which are like pinewood to the soldier ants of Islam.
THE BBC chooses to yield and submit to Islam rather than defend western civilisation, the typical malaise of modern degenerate western society.
The Islamists have clearly well indentified the cultural decadence and greedy hedonism that have made europeans even to weak to defend themselves.
Shades of Rome before the Goths.
at November 1, 2006 4:17 PM
"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven."
Jesus, Matthew 5:42-46, NIV
Yup, we can look forward to indiscriminate love bombings and wanton altruism. How awful.
Posted by: Clive at November 1, 2006 4:22 PM
Is n't it ironic!!!
That the BBC bans the word Dhimmi from it's Blogs because some non-Kuffir might find it mildly offensive.
Go to their website and try it for yourself.
In the UK we even have to pay the BBC money to watch their biased banal drivel or face a jail sentence.
Their reporting of the Lebanon war was totally one sided.
Apparently the employ alot of Homosexuals who obviously have not read the Koran.
Perhaps they should re-brand themselves as the Biased Broadcasting Corporation.
at November 1, 2006 4:23 PM
One Christian group said the corporation had a "sinister" and "malicious" agenda against their faith, while another claimed the BBC1 Spooks programme could be an "incitement to hatred" against them.
To be fair, how is this different from a Muslim complaining in a similiar fashion? They have a right to cook up any kind of plotline they want to, no matter how stupid or ludicrous.
Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop at November 1, 2006 4:35 PM
I'm sure nariz has ordered his copy of the show.
Posted by: Gary at November 1, 2006 4:35 PM
everybody's got to pay the BBC,or go to jail?how the hell they do that?
at November 1, 2006 4:42 PM
This is why it is so important to understand the reasons for the recent interventions of John Howard of Australia,recent Anglican archbishops and the Pope himself to re establish Christianity in western society.
The loosely held beliefs of progreesive liberals are no substitute and are easily eroded and changed by these Grimscian type activists who have become elites of society.
Although the United States is a stronly hedonistic, it is nethetheless a country that still posseses a strong Christian faith which sustains a positive national identity.
This belief in itself is the core weapon in its fight to resist Islamization.
It is far stronger than all the weapons scinetists and technicians can create.
Take that belief away and all those weapons bevome useless.
And that is exactly what the useful BBC idiots and MSM are trying to erode so they can open the back door to Islam.
at November 1, 2006 4:42 PM
If I were forced to pay for the BBC I think I'd be considering doing exactly what their little fantasy drama suggests, but only at the BBC main office. Good thing I'm over here.
Posted by: Beagle at November 1, 2006 4:48 PM
Oh, yes, of bloody course. A Christian bishop ordering the murder of a poor, misunderstood islamic radical. That's art imitating life, that is. Or life imitating art. Or art imitating fart. And imitation is the greatest form of flattery. And the Beeb flatters, it cajoles, it pleads, it whines.
And now, it decieves.
Tell me, did the Bishop at least use an albino flagellant with a Glock?
Piss off. Fucking Beeb.
Prophet Geoff
Posted by: Geoff at November 1, 2006 4:52 PM
Why do Brits have to pay for the BBC? Is it mandatory? That's ludicrous.
Posted by: atheling at November 1, 2006 4:54 PM
Yes, it is mandatory unfortunately.
We have to pay the dhimmi-channel.
Another classic the BBC dropped on us last week, with the new series of Robin Hood produced by the BBC. Episode 3 and Robin Hood mentions a passage out of the bloody koran, and states he has read it in the Holy Land!!!
This is f***ing Robin Hood! They just had to put that in didn't they ??
They've also scrapped Friar Tuck in this series, he's nowhere to be seen?!! Oh I know! The BBC have decided he was imprisoned as a paedophile priest before the series started (you know how they love to portray Roman Catholics at the old 'Beeb')
Episode 6 and Robin Hood will have a beard, be praying to Mecca, and Maid Marion will be known as Maid Mariam after converting and be covered head to toe in a burka!
Nothing surprises me with the BBC!
at November 1, 2006 5:17 PM
Holy cow! I just googled "BBC tax funding" and found this:
"...in the UK, the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) is a government agency that has the power to tax and enforce laws. In order to obtain funding, the BBC requires that anyone using its services must pay for them. So, if you own a TV set and live in the UK, you could conceivably turn on the BBC broadcasts, so therefore you better pay..."
Courtesy of turnoffyourtv.com
Here's the link. If this is an accurate description, it's total media tyranny. What an eye opener for this yank.
Posted by: Clive at November 1, 2006 5:18 PM
One needs to pay for a TV license to watch any TV on air. You dont need to pay for a TV license if you use the TV to watch videos, DVDs and other recorded material.
The best is not to watch broadcast TV at all, then you do not need to pay the license fee, which goes to support the BBC and channel 4.
You will be visited by an employee of the license collection agency to ascertain if you are watching broadcast TV. He will ask if he can enter the premises to make sure that the TV is not connected to an aerial. The response to this is, that he may when he has a court order delivered in the presence of a police officer or an officer of the court.
Comparatively, TV in Britain is far better then most other countries, despite standards having fallen in the last decade. Since I disconnected the TV from the antenna, I have found that I have much more time to read, listen to music, and time to talk, then before.
Posted by: DP111 at November 1, 2006 5:27 PM
I bet Timothy McVeigh didn't scream "Christ is greatest" when he blew up that bomb.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 1, 2006 5:29 PM
This may be one of the more sinister acts of forcing jizya I've seen yet.
You have to pay for a left wing, pro Islamic propaganda site, but if you blog on their web site the word dhimmi is forbidden.
Man what a bunch of crap, this is nothing but the European arm of Al Jazeera.
Niv
Posted by: niv at November 1, 2006 5:32 PM
I believer McVeigh was a self proclaimed agnostic.
Posted by: jb at November 1, 2006 5:36 PM
"I believe that Judeo Christian faith is perhaps the only weapon that can resist islamization in the west."
Posted by: chevalier de st george
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Yes of course, Atheism and Agnosticism aren't doing a good job as everyone can see. Judaism and Christianity are not compatible with Islam, and that's why they can resist Islam.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 1, 2006 5:37 PM
a t.v tax?who would have thought.
at November 1, 2006 5:49 PM
The BBC was originally set up by the Brirish government bcause they were so appalled by the way America had come to dominate cinema, that they were determined nothing like that should happen with the new medium of radio and later, television. How things might have gone was demonstrated by Murdoch's Sky channel in the '90's. For years the joke was that the nearest thing Sky had to a production studio was the room where they unpacked the videos from the US.
Posted by: wallyUK at November 1, 2006 6:01 PM
Nariz are you writing scripts for the BBC now?
Posted by: Carolyn2 at November 1, 2006 6:12 PM
As a Christian, I too believe that a steady diet of secularism tends to tie one in cognitive knots, since many ultimate questions go unanswered or flatly unacknowledged. It can be argued that this makes us easy prey for the relativist, multi-culti drivel that threatens to emasculate us in the face of the Islamist threat, spiritually and intellectually.
However, biblical doctrine itself presupposes that not everyone will become a Christian, so I'm a little uncomfortable with the idea that the Christian faith is the only hope of western civilization if the outworking of that is some sort of new "Christendom" as a quasi-theocratic form. Those forms turn out badly, as we can see from history (and Islam).
In one of Robert's appearances on a podcast, I remember him describing what we're fighting for as "the values arising from Judeo-Christian civilization." The US, prior to the relatively recent assault of nietzschean reductionism on western thought, provided a secular framework within which various subcultures, including Christianity in its various form, could coexist under the protections the values Robert spoke of.
Jesus teaches his followers to be "salt and light" in the world, and many are attracted to that light and convert. However, this is done strictly as a matter of free moral agency and not cultural or political edict.
Secularism, in and of itself, is not the problem. Rather it's the mistaken assumption, accepted in the media and academic classes without question, that the Judeo-Christian worldview is no longer socially significant and must be expunged from public debate at all costs (including, apparently, our subjugation by Islam).
If this can be overcome, we will have the blend of worldviews, including the contributions of Christians, that the supposed "melting pot" was supposed to give us to start with.
For us within the Faith, Jesus ultimately is the only hope of the world and will ultimately restore it, but those of all persuasions within western civilization are in this fight together in the meantime.
And we'll win.
Posted by: Clive at November 1, 2006 6:17 PM
Towards the end of his life, Malcolm Muggeridge proudly declared that he did not own a "telly". RIP, Malcolm.
Posted by: Kepha at November 1, 2006 6:19 PM
Ok the BBC has slanted remarks to show that the American Govt is spying on the muslims. (As if MI5-MI6 weren't?) This may be a good thing as it might force some Dhimitude on Muslims that watch the BBC.
This could be a good thing.
God willing, of course.
Posted by: credit man at November 1, 2006 6:38 PM
The British posters here say that the average Brit is not of the same mind as the government, or the its institutions like the BBC. They say the average Brit doesn't go along with this nonsense. They say the average Brit is opposed to this left wing dictatorship of the elites.
If all that is true, my British friends, then where, in your democracy, is the revolt? Where are the protests? Where is the grass roots opposition to the destruction of Britain? Where are the rebel organziations to oppose this leftist oligarchy? Where are these average Brits? Where is the majority? For whom do they vote come election time? What channels do they watch?
You will know them by their fruits, is a saying as applicable to the Christians as to the muslims. I see the fruit of Britain, and it is rotten. If the tree is healthy, why then does its fruit rot on the vine?
Posted by: August22 at November 1, 2006 6:54 PM
The BBC are censoring this story today:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1239381,00.html
Protest outside the court by Muslims. At least Sky are covering it, but even Sky is censoring it. There is no 'alleged' assault, I have seen with my own eyes one Muslim man punch a police officer in the face at this demonstration today. This is assault, not alleged, and is on video, Sky must have seen it. This fact, FACT, is omitted from this Sky report. The mainstream media as a whole censors and distorts, but I have to say that the BBC are worse than most.
at November 1, 2006 7:49 PM
And the Muslim Asian lawyer Choudrey was shouting about learning our lesson from 7/7. I heard it. You won't get any of that on the BBC.
Posted by: EnglishBlondie at November 1, 2006 7:51 PM
ps they were all shouting 'Allah Akbar'.
Posted by: EnglishBlondie at November 1, 2006 7:54 PM
Here is a local paper that states that the police officer was punched in the face:
http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news/topstories/display.var.998643.0.police_injured_in_muslim_old_bailey_protest.php
at November 1, 2006 7:58 PM
That ugly Izzadeen was there shouting too.
Posted by: EnglishBlondie at November 1, 2006 8:03 PM
If any mainstream medai ever release any footage of this incident, it is the Muslim in the plain blue (medium blue) hooded top who punches the police officer. I don't think that the BBC will report any of this.
Posted by: EnglishBlondie at November 1, 2006 8:05 PM
"If all that is true, my British friends, then where, in your democracy, is the revolt? Where are the protests? "
Here we go again Brit-bashing. Where, we might ask, are all those brave Americans revolting against CAIR and all the other examples of dhimmitude that are documented on this site?
Posted by: JFGR at November 1, 2006 8:08 PM
See Melanie Phillips's blog on the nasty anti-semitism behind one of the episodes.
http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1370
Anyone know anything about Raymond Khoury?
Posted by: JFGR at November 1, 2006 8:11 PM
Another big story on this side of the pond today is the start of the retrial of Nick Griffin, you can read his own blog here:
http://chairmanscolumn.blogspot.com/
Americans may not belive this, but he is facing criminal charges for criticising Islam. The state have charged him under 'racial incitement' - the race of Islam! I actually cannot believe that his is happening, but it is.
at November 1, 2006 8:36 PM
To be fair, how is this different from a Muslim complaining in a similiar fashion? They have a right to cook up any kind of plotline they want to, no matter how stupid or ludicrous.
Lets be far then, the BBC has never broadcasted anything close to the reverse of this, portraying muslims in such a negative way. The criticism is entirely justified and legitimate.
Posted by: adobe at November 1, 2006 8:58 PM
from the BBC website, the BBC have put the word terrorist in quotes: 'terrorist' - even though he has been convicted of terrorism! Read the title:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6103484.stm
at November 1, 2006 9:28 PM
More junk from CAIR:
CAIR Leaders Asked to Repudiate Anti-Islam Hate
Posted by: ummahnewslinks at November 1, 2006 9:31 PM
i took a look at the French riot reporting by the BBC. Only Muslims were interviewed. I have never seen more biased reporting.
Certainly this must be equivalent to Goebbels
propaganda via Germany 1938.
at November 1, 2006 9:42 PM
this would be heaven sent.
too bad this is just pure fiction.
Posted by: StillFedUp
Forza Europa!! I had exactly the same thoughts on reading this.. IF ONLY!!!
Thanks for stealing my thunder.. I am glad to see the spirit is alive all over EUROPA still and of course in the USA, AUS and so on too.
I will now read the rest of the comments.
StillFedUp. you hit the nail on the head.. da capo.. bravo bravo bravissimo!!
do to the imams as the Italians did to Mussolini.. hang them in the public squares! At least il Duce didn't threaten to destroy Italian Architecture and churches.. only Hitler was that crazy.. demanding his commander in Paris burn the City when defeat was certain for Germany.. I am glad that the love of art and culture and all of Europe prevented that commander from doing as Hitler asked from him. Maybe Hitler was the 12th imam.. think about it.. If it wasn't for Hitler we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today. Britain most of all and the other European powers lost their status.. only America and the USSR emerged as the Supreme Duality after WW2. We all lost the War.. not only Germany. Then The USSR fell and now the USA stand alone.
The European ideals of Enlightenment and Respect of Universal Human Rights have become tools in the hands of our common enemy.. Our collective shame and guilt is being exploited not by the victims of this Holocaust - but rather by their evil brother Cain. They seek to slay Abel via subversion of our ideals which we hold so dear and by our power which is a result of so many struggles amongst ourselves and within the world at large.
We in Europa have had much cause to think and reconsider our ways.. and trying to be kinder and gentler amongst ourselves has unfortunately caused us to ignore the threats awaiting us outside. We have been too involved inside.. trying to forget the past.. to be better people than were our forefathers.. shoulder the "white man's burden".. do good unto others and naively expecting that others will treat us as we treat them.
Instead we are being kicked in the face and we still blame ourselves.
This would never have happened if Hitler hadn't risen to power in Germany when he did... all that brain and cultural power transferred across the Atlantic to the USA from all our countries..
A good example is Günther Grass.. THE example of a guilty-German-Liberal self-hater who could do nothing but spread self-hate in Germany.. and then the reason comes out.. He was a member in the Waffen-SS.. and he transferred his guilt [Yes, it's Freudian] onto everyone else in Germany.. he became our self-appointed laureate who can never be critiqued.. all as a result of his own misdeeds and - even worse - his failure to publicly own up to his Nazi past. I am glad my instincts always led me to dislike him and not to trust him and what he said.
Other European countries have undergone similar cultural spasms, while not as extreme as they were in Germany. But therefore also less subject to scrutiny.. lies became entrenched truths and were ossified into the current dhimmi-culture we see in Europe everywhere.
It is my thinking that we need Israel's help if we are to get out of this. I know many in Israel will find the thought revolting - or at the very least nauseating - but what we need is a pro-active engagement from Israel's body politic and all of their other institutions.. as painful as it may be for them.. they MUST affirm their cultural bonds with us.. They must not give us up to the islamic world as they surely feel forsaken by our current governments.. they MUST truly live up to their role as the CHOSEN.. as they have the power to change Europe in these dark dire days.
Arab governments are busy endowing and establishing institutions all over Europe and I suggest Israel do the same thing. Many young Israelis live today in Berlin and other European Capitals and many of them hide some of their feelings because many of their European counterparts have been brainwashed to hate the state of Israel - even as they entertain these people as friends and peers..
What I suggest is for example joint military exercises complete with open-minded discussion rounds between European nations forces and the IDF. We have MUCH more in common than we do with either Turkey - who are trying to muscle their way into the EU - and the other moslem states.
Maybe Israel should consider applying to join the EU - which would create a delicious monkey wrench for Turkish accession aspirations. The argument that Israel is not in Europe would be answered in two ways: A. Turkey is only in Europe via a tiny bridgehead territory which was seized from Greece. And B. Israel's History is anchored in Europe in many ways.. and it was Europe why many of its former residents had to find refuge and a new life in Israel to begin with. Israel has every right to assert these ties and IMHO they should.. Mendelsohhn.. Einstein.. Rathenau.. Chagall.. Kurt Weill.. Sigmund Freud.. Heinrich Heine.. and on and on and one.. How can we deny that these European Jews who saw themselves as Germans and as Europeans first have not had an indelibly postive and progressive influence on our continent as a whole. They were among the persecuted and the rejected and thus it may be hard for their Isralei heirs to claim this legacy - but I feel they MUST. That's the only way to save both Israel AND Europe. These European Jews aren't burdened by the past in the way the aforementioned Günther Grass is, for example and they should assert their European Heritage as a means for asserting ours.
This has gotten much longer than i meant ti to be but these thoughts are fresh and I may not remember to say them lateron.
Europe needs Israel from a moral point of view and Israel needs us in the larger political context. Please don't give up the field to our common enemies!!
We need more than common Holcaust Memorial visits with Israelis. As important as they are they are not exactly filled with joy for either party and they have come to feel like a visit from an unloved uncle to a nephew whom the uncle doesn't like particularly.
We must do things together that are more fun.. more forward in orientation.. like when my uncle went to work on the Kibbutz after the war and he had such glowing tales to tell about it!
Our young people get along WAY better than our ossified political relations would suggest and we must move our official relations onto firmer and wider ground. I have had much interaction with many Israelis both in Europe and in New York and have not met a single one who resented me for being German. I found them all to be very funny and smart.. beautiful women too :-) and I was sad that at times they acted just as guilt-ridden as their European brethren.. but thankfully NOT all of them!
WE can't make the first steps for obvious reasons.. the French would never think of it.. The Italians probably couldn't be bothered..
The things I am suggesting would have to engage Israel with Germany and maybe Poland at first.. I know that's a strange constellation by today's standards.. But let's rethink things from a new perspective. What do we all really have in common? Both in positive [culture and the arts and sciences] and now in negative [islam].
I am asking Israel to re-claim what is Her rightful European Heritage. Do NOT give up. Work on all fronts.. diplomatically.. culturally.. and so on.. Play the guilt card if you must. Ho can the Europeans deny you your rightful place in European culture. Start special festivities for Jewish-european musicians for example.. us germans love our musicians and why let Germans forget that our beloved Mendelsohn was German Jew? Israeli orchetras should come play and German orchstras be invited to Israel in exchange.. do the same in other European countries..
How could any European country possibly deny these things if Israel initiates them? They would not be asking us to curtail our hard-won freedom of speech or change our laws for them... :-)
Maybe I should send an email to someone like Binyamin Netanyahu who was Israel's ambassador to Germany for so many years.. and very well-liked at the time.
We all must work together in these dark times which loom ahead.. and we must be creative and seek new ways.. as kungfufigther said many times before.
Just imagine once again the delicious quandry that an Israeli request to join the EU would present.
C'mon Israel.. please throw us a nasty curveball.. You will be saving yourselves and us all.
Posted by: germaninamerica at November 1, 2006 10:03 PM
My apologies for the misleading headline. Correction follows:
CAIR calls for leaders to repudiate anti-Islam hate
Posted by: ummahnewslinks at November 1, 2006 10:05 PM
Don't let's get hysterical over this. The programme broadcast was fiction, clearly flagged as fiction, viewed by the vast majority as fiction, did not pretend to be anything other than fiction, made no claim to be other than fiction, and was supposed to entertain in a wry way - a 'what if' way, a 'wonder what would happen if Christians fought back' way. It was, however, just fiction - like 'Lord of the Rings' or 'Harry Potter' or 'Narnia' or 'Bleak House' or any other televised work of fiction which we have watched at any time over the last fifty years. Frankly, I think that too much is being read into this story. And most of us seem to be forgetting that the source newspaper for this is the 'Daily Liar' redtop - a newspaper, and I use the term advisedly, which specialises in making a molehill out of a pimple and wouldn't recognise a mountain of fact if the said mountain landed on top of it and its reporters in a cataclysmic fashion.
"Christian Voice National Director Stephen Green said: "This could even be incitement to hatred against Christians. It is completely ludicrous and brings the BBC into more disrepute." "
Perhaps he did. The 'Daily Liar' specialises in finding rent-a-mouths and this wouldn't be the first time that it has used Mr. Green. Bear in mind that Christian Voice is a very small campaign group led by Mr. Stephen Green. They have recently been involved in high profile actions against a range of victims, including the cancer charity 'Maggies's Centres' (God alone knows why, but they saw fit to force the charity to turn down fifteen thousand dollars from the cast of a show which they saw as immoral), homosexuals and a number of regional theatres and art galleries and museums.
The Evangelical Alliance is little better. It is a deeply fundamentalist, literalist, hating organisation which exists only to tell people what they must not do. They are Old Testament and proud of it, not New Testament. At best they are divisive, at worst they are the Christian theological version of the moslem taliban theologians - and mostly they are 'at worst' not 'at best'.
Don't be misled here. The BBC deserves criticism of the most extreme kind on many an occasion, but over this one - no. It's just a publicity seeking go-get cooked up by Christian Voice, the Evangelical Alliance and the 'Daily Liar' (Daily Mail).
Dominic.
Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at November 1, 2006 10:33 PM
Perhaps they should re-brand themselves as the Biased Broadcasting Corporation.
Posted by: raz
Or alternately they could rename themselves as ABBC - Anti-British Broadcasting Corporation.
We get them here in the US on npr and they are truly sickening.. They just revel in reporting Coalition casualties.
a ray of hope in the fact that History does repeat itself - albeit with shifted protagonists and circumstances. While the world kept on worrying about Germany and Japan re-emerging as players and as future enemies.. the islamist enmies quietly crept in under everyone's radar whilst cleverly exploiting "white guilt" and "civil rights" for themselves.
We are now where we were in the early 1930's once again.. only this time right-thinking Germans and Japanese will be with the others in the fight. we are no longer nations at war with one another but rather we are nations at war WITHIN one another. The enemy resides within each of our nations, aided by a defeatist cabal of post-communists and misguided multiculturalists who are unable to open their minds to the new realities unfolding before our very eyes.
No matter what circles we are in or whom we are friends with.. we MUST speak up when stupid words are parroted unthinkly as if they were accpeted truth and universal dogma. You never know whom you may meet :-) Case in point: The New york artist community is overwhelmingly or shall we say 99.99% leftwing and most of them don't even know why. I'd made friends with a cool 3rd generation Hispanic-heritage guy from the southwest and his [I thought Puerto-Rican girlfriend]. One day he went off first on Bush and then he delved into an anti-Israel tirade in front of me and several people at my place. I knew I wasn't going to encounter much sympathy from anyone but my blood started boiling. So I said to him.. WHAT exactly bothers you so much about Israel? Tell me what they have done to you or anyone you know? He was very slow to anser since he'd obviously never had to challenge these his [God knows where he got them] views. While he searched for words I egged him on.. please do tell.. and he got beet-red. stunned silence in the room. My house by the way.. and I thought NOT IN MY HOUSE!! i have to say something. so I told him - and by way of captive audience - everyone else the following: I won't have this regurgitated stuff in my house unchallenged. In case anyone didn't know I am a German and I have given our past much thought and I have a special obligation to ensure that the words "never again" remain filled with meaning and not turn into empty shells spoken at some official Holocaust Memorial event. Never Again must be an active concept and I will counter evil words.. words which in time become commonly-held "truths" and lateron actions. So I said to him please think before you speak so blindly. Your parents even gave you a Jewish first name. Just like mine did in fact. Anti-Semitism may be "cool" right now and wearing an araFAT scarf.. but the signal you send is one of strident anti-semitism which you are absorbing so ignorantly.
The ensuing silence was quite uncomfortable and soon after most of the others had said goodbye.. having other places to go or needing to go sleep. But the real reason they left was my outburst. Somehow my friend and his girl stayed behind. And when us three were all that were left the girl took my hand and said: Thank you to me.. turns out her family on the paternal side were German Jews who'd come to America during the Holocaust. She said she was glad that I spoke up because I was at least going to cause these "cool" people to think a little and she lit into my friend about independent thinking and not just running with the in-crowd and that he has no idea of certain realities.
He was definitely crushed.. but he should have been. I never expected ANYONE from that crowd to heed or even consider my words and here I found kinship and active support from an unexpected source. Since her father's side was Jewish and her mother's side was Catholic she was forced to confront just that heritage from many perspectives. Which caused her to be more insightful that the rest. I am sure she was more outspoken since then :-) That is what i told her in fact.. I never knew or expected support from anyone but I felt it was up to me to speak up and if I'd remained silent she and I might never have discovered our common ground. As it happened both of us gained greater confidence for the future and her boyfriend had to confront his facile bigotries and I haven't heard him mouth stupidities since - at least not in my presence.
Nonetheless.. I forsake whatever networking opportunities I may have had with the crowd he'd brought over, but I am glad I found the gall and the courage to voice my reservations to these regurgitations. Anyone who heard what I said will be at least a little bit hesitant if they every should have the inclination to say something stupid in the future. You never know.. someone may be there who will challenge them and shame them. Like I said, his face was beet-red when I challenged his casual and unthinking words.
The lesson is: we MUST speak up - at risk of being called names or being ridiculed.. best to be factual and asking whoever makes a dumb remark to explain themselves because you just don't understand so say please explain it to me.. what exactly do you mean? Using logic can work wonders and you will encourage others to think and sometimes even to speak up themselves.
don't run with the herd.. no matter how "cool" they are or how much money you might be able to make or even "get laid".. When the chips are down all of that won't matter a thing. I know if I look in the mirror and ask myself did I do the right thing I'll be able to answer with pride.
Yes, I lost a few potential new friends that night. But I know I didn't sell out like my German forebears did.. by staying uncomfortably silent.. pretending everything is cool.. THAT is my own personal lesson from my history which I have had to face and own up to. We all are obligated to speak the truth. Silence in the face of deceitful propaganda equals collusion at the very least. Isn't it ironic that once again it is uncomfortable or worse to face down anti-Semitism in our Western culture? I do not wish for History to repeat this particular chapter and i am deeply disappointed in many of my countrymen as well as the many others who are going down the slippery slope of this re-emerging anti-Semitism.
I am NOT a lemming! Nor am I a Quisling.. I may not have the ultimate moral authority but I have since gotten into other situations where speaking out has become easier for me - and effectful.
I hope we all will not allow subtle things to be spoken unchallenged. The cancer spreads unseen until it emerges in full force.
Bewähret den Anfängen - Beware the Beginnings!
Posted by: germaninamerica at November 1, 2006 11:24 PM
This fact, FACT, is omitted from this Sky report. The mainstream media as a whole censors and distorts, but I have to say that the BBC are worse than most.
Posted by: EnglishBlondie
ABBC is worse than Pravda
at November 1, 2006 11:31 PM
just how much do the al turki family that rules one of the worse supporters of radical islam pay in advetizing to the bbc evey year they own big chunks of the tv industry in the usa and control what is aid about islam
Posted by: islamakapigeaters at November 1, 2006 11:48 PM
"In the UK we even have to pay the BBC money to watch their biased banal drivel or face a jail sentence."
that's the trick, STOP paying.
Posted by: StillFedUp
Great idea.. Civil Disobedience.. clog the courts with this crap... How much space do they want to make in the borstal for non-payers to the BBC.. here in the US they fund npr from taxdollars so the airwaves are not quite as "free" as the Americans like to pronounce.
We must be creative in our long fight and Civil Disobedience in form on non-payment of TV dues is a good way as any to start.. the more that get involved the more they'll have egg on their face! They can only intimidate the few in silence and obscurity.. once it turns into a movement the lights will have to shine on what is going on.. just like the Alabam bus boycotts in the 50's.. started by one old lady who refused to give up her seat which she rightfully had paid for.
StillFedUp.. you are definitely a trailblazer and full of rigtheous creativity.. InSpiration comes directly from a Higher Source. And you have it! I am convinced that whatever form God is or has... S/He ultimately won't let us down. We must have faith.. we must never give up.. the worst is yet to come.. much worse than now, I am afraid..
We are the huddled few who are singing like canaries in the coal mine.. we can see what lies ahead.. but none are listening.. till many more are dead.
There will come a time however when we will do more than make our stand on the internet. A Japanese friends liked islam to a virus designed to challenge us and toughen us up... one that we all have to use every ounce of our Spirit and our strength and our love for all that is good and that is beautiful and right if we wish to overcome it. God has faith in us. Look at what Robert is doing and Hugh's eloquent and haunting writings and how they speak to us.. Look at SillFedUp's ideas today.. we know we can't nuke anything since none of us has that power. Her ideas are ideas that we are able to carry out! Let us do whatever we can do at this time.. think globally and act locally.. no bickering amongst ourselves.. let us be pragmatic like.. yes.. Macchiavelli if we have to or like the much mis-represented Otto v. Bismarck. We need realpolitik now. Let us study Lao-Tsu and Metternich.. and Martin Luther King. We cannot use arms at this time so let us use our creativity and our minds for now.
Posted by: germaninamerica at November 1, 2006 11:50 PM
'Anti-Semitism may be "cool" right now' (from above)
It is not cool, it is wrong. I don't think that it's cool at all, but I think that a lot of people are falling for all the propaganda.
at November 1, 2006 11:59 PM
'Anti-Semitism may be "cool" right now' (from above)
It is not cool, it is wrong. I don't think that it's cool at all, but I think that a lot of people are falling for all the propaganda.
Posted by: EnglishBlondie
In case I was misunderstood here.. THAT is EXACTLY the point I made!!
It is TOTALLY UNCOOL. And it is morally reprehensible. I hope you got the gist of my long post earlier.
Posted by: germaninamerica at November 2, 2006 12:18 AM
germaninamerica, yes, totally. I was just emphasising how wrong they are.
Posted by: EnglishBlondie at November 2, 2006 12:38 AM
Here we go again Brit-bashing. Where, we might ask, are all those brave Americans revolting against CAIR and all the other examples of dhimmitude that are documented on this site?
Posted by: JFGR
He's right. None of us are in the streets as of now. Let's not bash one another. It is counter-productive. Let us instead develop and share thoughts and strategies. StillFedUp has produced good ideas already in this thread..
The Brits were after all the lone European holdouts against fascism and if it hadn't been for Pearl Harbor and Hitler declaring war on the USA.. who knows what might have happened.
So let's not come down on the Brist so fast. And all the Brits who are here - in far greater numbers than Germans i am ashamed to say - are proof that they have a backbone and are looking for ways to fight this menace which is a common threat to us all!
We have to use non-violent methods.. be creative.. speak out whenever we know we must.. persuade our unaware compatriots with logic and facts.. help them face their initial discomforts as they begin to deal with this new and unpleasant reality.
Fighting amongst ourselves should be reserved to ManU and Chelsea.. Liverpool and Bayer.. Barça and Real.. Inter vs. Napoli or whatnot..
Let's hate each other on the pitch.. and after we have a hot shower we meet up at the local pub where we'll get together and remember our common ancestry I hope!
Everything is at stake here for us!
EU = a totally fake and contrived "united Europa"
We the disrespected and ignored citizens of Europe and beyond have things in common and we can respect our mutual idiosyncracies as well. I have met plenty enough people from many many countries to know wha I am talking about.
There is no place here among friends for Brit-bashing.. or French-bashing.. or anyone else.
I'd like to see a future when I can enter a nice British pub and enjoy their local beers and banter with the guys in there about such lovely and mundane things as World Football and so on! Would be so much nicer than having to bitch about islam [a BIG BEER piss be upon it!! Cheers] all the time.
Like Maryanne Faithful's song: What are we fighting for?
WHAT are we fighting for, my dear friends.. let us never forget we are fighting for our freedoms, our cultures and our way of life.
Posted by: germaninamerica at November 2, 2006 12:41 AM
I bet Timothy McVeigh didn't scream "Christ is greatest" when he blew up that bomb.
Posted by: EliasAlucard
They always trot out Timothy McVeigh and his ilk.. as if they were anything similar to islamofascists..
1. They are HOME-GROWN
2. FEW AND FAR BETWEEN
3. DESPISED BY THE GENERAL POPULATION
4. THEY ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY MAINSTREAM CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATIONS
5. Their actions are in DIRECT violation of the TEN COMMANDMENTS - unlike islamo-terrorists who can claim specific koranic texts - AND CURRENT EVERYDAY EXHORTATIONS from evil imams in mosks AROUND THE WORLD to justify their deeds. Remember in islam jihad is actually their duty and the jihadists are held highest above all. Most [99.99%] Christians and secular Westerners regard the likes of McVeigh as scum and he got a death sentence from a jury of his peers. That would never happen in pakiland or in SOWdita arrabiata [inside joke for those who speak Italian here].
6. I have never seen or heard of Timothy McVeigh T-shirts or posters anywhere. Unlike that pig-dog usama bin laden whose ugly warty face is on countless shirts and posters from Gaza to paki-spam.
Maybe if he'd blown up a mosk.. what am I saying here..?
at November 2, 2006 12:54 AM
"Start special festivities for Jewish-european musicians for example.. us germans love our musicians and why let Germans forget that our beloved Mendelsohn was German Jew? Israeli orchetras should come play and German orchstras be invited to Israel in exchange.. do the same in other European countries.."
Hear, hear! European culture was strongly formed by Jewish artists, writers, musicians, philosophers. This is a great idea: Jews helped create Europe, of course Israel should be a member of, or at least have privileged access to, the EU.
Posted by: Lili at November 2, 2006 1:04 AM
Just because Stephen Green is a "Christian" does not make him OK....he is the one who tried to ban Jerry Springer...the Opera. He is an obnoxious, sneering self publicist.
He is as much an enemy of free speech as any Islamist bigot.
Posted by: Turbinehead
at November 2, 2006 1:20 AM
If the tree is healthy, why then does its fruit rot on the vine?
Posted by: August22
The tree is healthy indeed.. look how many of them are on this forum.. and ho MAD they are!
The "fruit" is rotten indeed.. and it shall wither when wintertime comes.. forgotten.. yet the TREE shall stand strong.. quiet for now, and ignored.
But trust me, all our trees shall bear a frightful fruit for our common oppressors. Because there will be the season.. and I am loath to say but I have no other logical way out.. the season will be WAR. All out!
This coming war won't be Norse vs. Brits. Germans vs rest of Europe - nor will it be Spain vs. the Netherlands..
As of now the WAR is for our own hearts and minds.. and those of our countrymen.
Our "jihad" is to let go of bashing and petty differences.. after all.. an Englisher coming to a German [or even a French] pub would have nothing to fear but to be "forced" to down countless local beers and being made to say that was the best beer he's ever had in his life. And I know from experience there'd always be someone to make sure he'd have a place to sleep it off after.
If islam comes to us.. WATCh out guys.. there won't BE ANY BEER any longer! You'll be longing dearly for that crap flamingo p•ss they brew in France called Kronenbourg! Which may be the one thin me and my English mates might be able to agree on at this time :-)
What shall it be.. i ask.. endure the stale taste of a Kronenbourg forced upon you by an unwitting Frennch beer lover or sticking your ass in the air and throwing all your shavers in the bin?!
no more bikini ads.. no more Pirelli Calendars at your local car repair??!!
Hey, I'll drink a round of 12 Kronenbourgs to that one any day!
If I wasn't clear so far.. I am reminding you all.. our differences are so petty when it comes to what the enemy has in store for us.
I'll drink a Foster's from AUS to the defence of the Lucky Country!!
I won't drink Miller's - not that I ever did before - not only does it taste nasty but they sponsored some weird multikulti even in Chicago recently with US $ 30,000... it was soemthing involving moslems. Those bastards don't even like beer.. so what gives, Miller dhimmi Brewing Company??!!
Main point it.. the islamo-fascist BORG "umma" knows no nation and they know no borders.. WE must re-define our particular contexts in a major big hurry if we are to win this one!! There are precious few of us left in all of our countries combined!!
I want Brit football hooligans on my side from now on - and I will be on theirs equally so! Even the lame Dutch.. ALL of us have so much more in common than we ever knew.. You like your beer warm.. I like mine cold.. BIG FOOKIN' deal. At least we are allowed to have the beer everywhere we go. Excpet in Sweden perpaps. They need major rehab.. or RETOX.. Fill them up with a few foog strong pints and they'll be ready to bust a few ragheads in a New York minute!
What I am talking about is.. STOP waiting for Swedish fans to arrive for a match so you can fight them.. instead.. take them to your pubs and buy them a few good English rounds.. Then you and they go out TOGETHER..
..looking for a bit of trouble if you know what I mean...
Who cares what team won or lost. You are BOTH in a fight for our lives here!!
I am SICK and TIRED of this inter-Eurpean/Western animosity!!!
STOP the stupid bickering already!! No more in-fighting.. Look what the Turks did to the Swiss National fooballers when the Swiss beat them on their home field. We believe in Fair Play after all. If the better team wins and it's not ours.. don't look to kill their fans.. instead.. take them with you for a few cold ones.. or a few luke-warms if you happen to be in England :-)
No European team has EVER disgraced itself like the Turks did when the Swiss knocked them out of the qualifier for the Cup 2006!!
So let's show UNITY and SOLIDARITY from now on! Anytime I see foreign fans.. I'll gladly invite you for a few cold spicy German beers!! And I expect the very same..
The French and Italians and Spanish have their wines thay can compare and argue about.. and their past tomato wars.. BUT both and all three of you are beeing invaded by a much more sinister element.. they want to destroy your ornate carvings in Bologna and your Frescoes in Milano.. They want to blow up our Cathedrals anywhere they can..
HOOLIGANS!!!
Hooligans please know no German or Italian or Spaniard would EVER even THINK of doing such a vile thing anywhere. So next time we visit your lovely green isle to attend a match.. reach out instead of fighting us.. buy us round or two.. we may even pull out our wallet and get the next one.
How much more do we have in common with one another than with this EVIL SATANIC DEMONIC CULT called islam [beer piss be upon it]??!!
Warm beer.. cold beer.. lager.. Pilsener.. Duvel.. Mannekin Pis.. Kölsch.. we argue that in Germany with intense sincerity and force people from the next town to drink ours even if they've had no plans for drinking that day [great thing this custom.. if you're ever in Germany and happen to be thirsty and truly low on cash.. you walk into a pub in Cologne or Düseldorf and there will surely be a few local yokels to more than quench your thirst!] Get out while you still can!!
Do you think moslems would give you that sort of WELCOME!!!??? No they will NOT - but those much-reviled Krauts sure will :-) So let's get it together here, boys n girls..
No more Brit-bashing or French-bashing.. or snice anti-American digs.. JihadWATCH and DHIMMIwatch is our common boat.. don't rock it - don't knock it.
Instead.. let's all be glad to see each other in this small but so very vital environment.
Our past inter-European wars look so foolish now that we all have had a taste of what lies ahead. We do not have the luxury anymore of inter-European Nationalism. Besides it looks so stupid by now. I mean to include non-moslem India and AUS and USA and all the others who are bravely mounting the front lines which we yet have to face... East Timor.. Philippines.. The islamic enemy is already slaughtering our peers as we read and write in this very net-forum. Schoolgirls are being raped and murdered in Southeast Asia as we speak.
Yet we do NOTHING!! What can we do??!! Maybe StillFedUp can contribute a viable action.. Fat chance we can go to Indonesia and pick up arms.. or to Nigeria where they persecute Christians and install sharia [beer piss be upon it] laws.
For now.. I ask all of you to stand together.. NEVER disrespect any of our mutual nationalities or cultures. It will have no purpose.
This is but our very first baby-step of RESISTANCE!!!
The enemy is much more united than we are at this time. Racism and chauvinism has no longer a place in the face of the HORDES.
NONE of us can win this fight ALONE!!
Of course I want my team to win against yours.. and I know so do you want yours to win against mine.. but.. I urge us all.. after the game has been played.. win lose or draw.. if You want to bash head.. DO NOT LET IT BE EACH OTHERS'
Use the FORCE, my friends.. invite the German fans or those "nasty frogs" or the Sweet Swedes.. invite us for a good drink instead of wasting your energies bashing our heads.. LET's ALL GO where the Mooftees live and LET US MAKE SOME NOISE!!!
Posted by: germaninamerica
at November 2, 2006 1:58 AM
pislam is the cancer - EUROPA is the ANSWER!!!
Posted by: germaninamerica at November 2, 2006 1:59 AM
germaninamerica, yes, totally. I was just emphasising how wrong they are.
Posted by: EnglishBlondie
OK.. good.. I just wanted you and everyone else on here to know that I meant to say exactly that. I know there are too many Germans out there who are more than wishy-washy and I don't wish to be mistaken for one of them.
Like I said before.. there are WAY more Britishers on this forum than there are Germans. I wish there were more from my country who'd see fit to stand up and speak out.
Maybe moving to the USA when I did has saved my brain from being washed... The few Germans whom I've talked to and who are on point have mostly been older than myself so I fear indepentent thinking may be dying out back home..
They are either at your knees or at yor throat.. I sincerly hope they have it in them to pick the proper throat next time they do!
I, for one am ready to kick some mohamet butt!!
Posted by: germaninamerica at November 2, 2006 2:09 AM
What's all the fuss about? This is nothing but a sequel!
Posted by: Shy Guy at November 2, 2006 2:24 AM
Hear, hear! European culture was strongly formed by Jewish artists, writers, musicians, philosophers. This is a great idea: Jews helped create Europe, of course Israel should be a member of, or at least have privileged access to, the EU.
Posted by: Lili
Lili..
THAT is exactly what I am saying!! And now Israel has the opportunity to play the gambit.. no weapons needed... just intellect... The moosleems may feel confident already.. and Bat Yeor is singing at our funeral..
What I am proposing is a tactic for saving us both.
I don't know your age.. so I will mention the Israli Symphony.. I think it was in Tel Avav.. they performed works by Richard Wagner in the late 60s while taxi drivers outside the concert hall bles their horns in protest. Those musicians laid claim to their shared European Heritage and I was VERY impressed as a wyoung boy when everyone in Germany proclaimed Wagner to be the bext evil thing to Hitler. The Israelian Symphony had more common sense and they said NO - we will play the geat works of music as is our RIGHT as per our heritage.
So what I am saying is.. KEEP CLAIMING Y/OUR COMMON HERITAGE and culture. I am begging you to do so! We are unable at this time to save ourselves and maybe you are chosen to save all of use.
hear hear.. You know damn well the present Euros-in-charge won't even be able to KNOW how to ahndle THAT ONE!
A lefty curve from Sandy Koufax to fu•• up the ballgame for the Eurabians! Israel cannot afford to let us go down the slippery slope we are on..
You have the power to stop us - sans violence.
We know we are headed for doom and we see no way out. I think about this all the time. Israel is our last and only hope in my logical analysis.
Only Israel can play the moral card and lay claim to preferred admission to the EU. Now that we are talking about this.. WHY have they never done do before..?
it's a brilliant concept, no? beat the Dhimmi-Euros at their own game.. give hope and rise to all the Pro-Israel people who have been silenced...
it's not a total checkmate but it is close to knocking off the enemy's Queen.
Can you imagine Chirac when thay ask him about Israel's request to join the EU!! HEHEHHEHHHHEE!!
lord, I'd love to see his face!!
No way the Germans can oppose that one!!!
And even if we don't like it.. we have to support it.. :-) But I LIKE it!! So delicious..
The Dutch can't possibly say no - brave freedom fighters they were in the War.
Country by country.. none of them can be openly against such an idea.
But time is running out for this gambit to work, Lili... We MUST get Israelis to seriously push the matter before Turkey is seriously in.
Once Israel asks to join the EU.. the islamis [piss be upon them] masses in Turkey will revolt.. as will the rest of Arrabbia.. yecchh.. and the Europeans will be foreced to re-examine their pathetic past..
None of them will be able to oppose Israel openly.. now that Israel can clam that Tuirkey is not on European soil either.. AND that Israel shares so very much in common with us..
I am asking You, Eretz Israel to save all of us [yes, our ancestors have done your people great wrongs].. please ask to join the EU. It's the only thing I can think of that will save both you and us.
at November 2, 2006 2:37 AM
In France they have a TV license too and there TV is so biased against Israel and really pro-Islam, though I do give them the credit of using the term terrorist Islamic.
germaninamerica, way to go my friend.
Posted by: Daffersd at November 2, 2006 2:40 AM
Instead of Christians killing Muslims as a fantasy, real life just took a bizarre turn with a German Lutheran Vicar who self immolated himself:
Posted by: atheling at November 2, 2006 3:02 AM
hooray Hooray..
I figured it out!!
Israel needs to demand to join the EU!!!
If the Turks can - then so can Israle.
IMAGINE the delicious qaundary that would present to the EUrocRATS!! MMMHHHH!!! :-)
Imagine the rage the Turks would stage upon hearing that Israel is requesting accession into the EU.
So far we have had the better weapons/military but the enemy had had all the cunning ideas and hey'd been using our very own media AGAINST US!!
So why doesn't ISRAEL use their particular History and our guilt to save themselves and ALL OF us now??!!
All they have to do is ask to join the European Union. I will email as many official Israeli personas as I possibly can tomorrow. And I urge you to do the very same.
At the very very least this will torpedo Turkey from butting their islamic asses into our club!!!
This will cause consternation and endless discussion in the media and in our "body politic".
As much as our "leaders" are in fact anti-Israel, they are even more loath to ADMIT that they are.. so LET ISRAEL FORCE THEM TO PLAY THEIR HAND!!
We all know full well that if Israel were ever in discussion for the EU.. it would open a WHOLE NEW CAN OF WORMS for anti-Israel Turkey!!
OOOHHH.. i just LOVE this idea!! We cannot presently fight them with arms unless we join whatever military our country has. Amd if we do we will be bound by ridiculous Rules of Engament and the Threat of Prosecution back home..
So now I have FINALLY come up with an idea that will work to slow down the islamification of our COMMON LANDS!!
These islamic vermi are constantly defiling our HOLY EUROPEAN LANDS with their vile unshaven beards nad burkas and all those nasty things they are so very free today to say against ALL OF US!!!
WHAT will Javier Asocialanas say when Israle formally asks to join the EU..?
In my mind.. they invented the cellphone.. there are may educated and highly intelligent people there who can make the place work even as they are surrounded by a nest of hostile hissing snakes. AND they gave beack their justly won spoils-of-war The Sinai for a more than shaky peace.. SHAME on all of our nations for compelling them to do so!
STILL and in spite of all of the odds.. Israel is the ONLY succesful and properous country in that region :-)
If anyone in Israel is listening..
PLEASE pass on this idea to your governmernt somehwere!! It may be distasteful to you because of what happened in History. I have no real good answer for that, I admit.
All I do know is if We don't get together and form a cogent strategy we all will die alone..
They will slash the Mona Lisa.. you know they will.. they will assume control of French nuclear warheads one day.. they already influence the program at the "Deutsche Staatsoper" where a scene depicting a decapitated Mahomet [ DAMN... I LOVED THAT SCENE] amongst other religious icons was seen as reason to change the playbill!! YES!!!!... I am freakin PISSED about that one!!!
We all need to JOIN RIGHT NOW!!!
The gambit I suggest will feature the "chosen" to liberate not just themselves but each and everyone of us.. scripture needs to be interpreted right!!
They are the Chosen for a reason. Noone ever thought that the Jews can FIGHT!!! Well, ZI'm putting all my money on the Jews. They're going to be the ones to bail all of us of this islamofascist muckmire!!
Posted by: germaninamerica at November 2, 2006 3:12 AM
In France they have a TV license too and there TV is so biased against Israel and really pro-Islam, though I do give them the credit of using the term terrorist Islamic.
germaninamerica, way to go my friend.
Posted by: Daffersd
Ca va mon vieux??!!! Bonne chance a nous tout.
Au revoir la plague islamique, mon copain!!
Ils sont rien que des salos..
vive la France LIBRE..
CHARLEMAGNE = OUI
CHIRAQuemagne = JAMAIS!!
VIVE L'EUROPE LIBRE!!
NOUS SOMMES LA RESISTANCE!!
Les Allemands sont avec vous cette fois-ci mon cher ami :-)
at November 2, 2006 3:23 AM
Another classic the BBC dropped on us last week, with the new series of Robin Hood produced by the BBC. Episode 3 and Robin Hood mentions a passage out of the bloody koran, and states he has read it in the Holy Land!!! This is f***ing Robin Hood! They just had to put that in didn't they ?? They've also scrapped Friar Tuck in this series, he's nowhere to be seen?!! Oh I know! The BBC have decided he was imprisoned as a paedophile priest before the series started (you know how they love to portray Roman Catholics at the old 'Beeb') Episode 6 and Robin Hood will have a beard, be praying to Mecca, and Maid Marion will be known as Maid Mariam after converting and be covered head to toe in a burka! Nothing surprises me with the BBC! Posted by: D'AlbiniSomeone tell the BBC that King Richard I - Choer de Lion - whom Robin Hood professed his complete loyalty towards while he combated Prince John, Nottingham and Gisbourne - actually led a Crusade! Imagine that.
I agree that we should support the Brits, but the bulk of their opposition to the Islamization of their society - backed up by Sultan Charles, Imam William Rowans and Sheikh B-Liar - will have to come from within. While things in the US are by no means hunky dory, I disagree with a poster above who equated CAIR's influence on public policy to, say, Qaradawi's influence on Red Ken. Given their practice of harassment of public figures, I doubt CAIR is an organization that is looked on favorably by anyone other than Muslims.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at November 2, 2006 3:27 AM
Well folks it is all because the BBC sells this crap to the US networks as "MI5" and must find plotlines to get Americans foaming at the mouth with blue-state indignation
The plotline was obviously lifted from this
http://www.adl.org/backgrounders/an_phineas.asp
We all know that most terrorism in the world actually derives from Chairman Mo's Big Red Book as I now call the Koran
Posted by: Voyager at November 2, 2006 4:32 AM
or should it be Profit Mo's Big Red Book ?
Posted by: Voyager at November 2, 2006 4:33 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/spooks/
Spooks heads for US
The hit BBC ONE drama series, Spooks, will debut on A&E Networks in the US, following a landmark deal brokered by BBC Sales Company in New York.
Renamed MI5 for the US, series one and two of the show will air on A&E in Spring/Summer 2003. A re-edited, two-episode TV movie, followed by a run of 14 episodes, will start the series on US screens.
This new deal represents the first of its kind with A&E, with the network's commitment to two series of a show before the first has aired in the US.
Candace Carlisle, Chief Operating Officer, BBC Sales Company, commenting on the deal said, "the show's fast pace and topical themes, together with great production values and an attractive cast, gives the series immense international appeal and a perfect fit for A&E's schedule. I am delighted the BBC and A&E are continuing their long and successful relationship with such a high profile and internationally successful series."
Abbe Raven, Executive Vice President/General Manager, A&E Network, added "We are very excited to add MI5 to our primetime summer line-up. MI5 is truly riveting. This series is drama that's compelling, intelligent, and timely. It speaks to the high stakes in the world around us, and it brings our audience high stakes, high quality drama in every episode."
Posted by: Voyager at November 2, 2006 4:37 AM
"everybody's got to pay the BBC,or go to jail?how the hell they do that?"
I personally never paid the License - just tell them you dont have a tv anymore and dont allow the inspectors in if they come to your house - they have no right of entry. They are just postal workers doing some overtime anyway and most of the dont give a fuck. About the detector vans - they simply are just to scare the people - they dont work - I know this as in another life time I did in fact work for the PO and it was also my job to go round houses and scare the poor people into getting a license though I refused to actually ever do it ( I was a lefty in those days) but I am very familiar on how the whole system works.
at November 2, 2006 4:46 AM
germaninamerica
Vielen Dank fuer Ihren ausgezeichneten email. Sie haben recht -- wir sollten zusammenstehen und nicht staendig einander kritisieren.
Gruesse aus dem Inselreich!
JFGR (Ein Freund von Deutschland und allen gefaehrdeten Nationen Europas)
Posted by: JFGR at November 2, 2006 5:10 AM
"everybody's got to pay the BBC,or go to jail?how the hell they do that?"
I personally never paid the License - just tell them you dont have a tv anymore and dont allow the inspectors in if they come to your house - they have no right of entry.
Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949
section 1.--(1)] that it is an offence to:
"... instal or use any apparatus for wireless telegraphy except under the authority of a licence [by the BBC] in that behalf granted by the Postmaster General ...". The Postmaster General is the government minister with responsibility for broadcasting.
The 1949 Act does not define a television receiver, but there is a working definition in section 3 [Meaning of Television Receiver] of the Wireless Telegraphy [Television Licence Fees] Regulations [1997]:
"... such apparatus installed or used for the purpose of receiving television programme services, as defined by section 2.--(4) of the Broadcasting Act 1990, whether or not the apparatus is installed or used for other purposes.
Finally, section 2.--(4) of the Broadcasting Act 1990 defines a "television programme service" quite widely, to include most terrestrial broadcast, cable and satellite TV service. It does not, however, include text-based broadcasts like teletext.
Posted by: Voyager at November 2, 2006 5:34 AM
Why is it that, before I had even read the story, I just KNEW that this would be about yet another episode of 'Spooks'? This is surely the most pro-enemy, anti-semitic programme on TV anywhere in the West (including even the news and current affairs programmes).
God, I can't wait to see these people get their just reward. It will almost make it worthwhile when the Mossies take over.
Posted by: enemyofislam at November 2, 2006 5:48 AM
when the Mossies take over.
They won't..............but what does take over won't be at all pleasant
Posted by: Voyager at November 2, 2006 7:41 AM
The programme broadcast was fiction, clearly flagged as fiction, viewed by the vast majority as fiction, did not pretend to be anything other than fiction, made no claim to be other than fiction.
Of course the show was fiction. The BBC is using a fictionalized story to portray Christians as being the badguys and the muslims the good guys who must defend themselves from the racist Christians. How is that not anti-Christian propaganda? Especially in light of world events in which it is the Christians who are the targets of death and destruction and the muslims who are doing the killing. To create such a fictionalized story is not just propaganda, it is twisting reality 180 degrees. It is like creating a story in 1938 about Jews imprisoning and torturing Nazis.
And there you are to say, "What's the big deal? It's only fiction."
Can you imagine if they made a show with the roles reversed? They wouldn't dream of it - fiction or not. That's the point.
Posted by: August22 at November 2, 2006 8:51 AM
Can you imagine if they made a show with the roles reversed? They wouldn't dream of it - fiction or not. That's the point.
Actually, yes they would. In fact they did. See here.
Posted by: Britvic at November 2, 2006 9:18 AM
This is a bad case of Christianophobia.
Pity that that label doesn't diminish anyone's credibility.
Posted by: rocky at November 2, 2006 11:14 AM
The best is not to watch broadcast TV at all, then you do not need to pay the license fee, which goes to support the BBC and channel 4.
Posted by: DP111
This is bizarre to most Americans, Mexicans or Russians to whom the idea of government charging to watch TV is outrageous.
Unless you subscribe to cable or have a satelite dish visible on roof, how would they know? Many TVs sold in the US have built in antennas and newer satelite receptors are small enough to be concealed, so as long as you keep the volume down or use headphones, I don't see how the government would know you're watching TV.
Posted by: Provoslavni at November 2, 2006 2:11 PM
Thank you, germaninamerica for your inspirational posts. I wish one of our office-seekers in New York would talk that way...
Posted by: JeffS at November 2, 2006 3:02 PM
ctually, yes they would. In fact they did.
No they did not. In that show, the bad guys were some radical muslims, and the good guys were non-radical muslims. That show was to illustrate the falsehood that most muslims have nothing to do with radicalism - exactly as the BBC would have us believe. More propaganda.
Did the BBC ever air a fictional story of muslims attacking Christians, where the good guys were Christians trying to defend themselves?
No, I didn't think so.
Posted by: August22 at November 2, 2006 3:54 PM
The best is not to watch broadcast TV at all, then you do not need to pay the license fee, which goes to support the BBC and channel 4.
You do not understand.
Licence Fees are charged on OWNERSHIP of a TV not which Channel you subscribe to...............or OWNERSHIP of a VCR
Posted by: Voyager at November 3, 2006 2:52 AM
The BBC takes care of it's own :)
http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=876
at November 7, 2006 11:12 AM
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