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And surrender on the part of the West is a good way to end that confrontation, as far as Zapatero is concerned. From Expatica, with thanks to Fjordman:
ISTANBUL — Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero said on Monday one of the biggest challenges facing the world faced was changing the confrontation between East and West.Zapatero was speaking in Istanbul during a visit to Turkey to see his counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
He said: "One of the greatest challenges confronting the international community is reversing the current negative interaction and disconnect between the West and the Islamic world."
In a letter signed by both leaders and published in the Spanish daily El Pais, they said the current trend of antagonism favours movement toward "policies based on identity in which extremism can flourish".
The joint letter came as both premiers took part in Istanbul, along with U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan and others, in a high-level meeting of those promoting "the Project for an Alliance of Civilizations" launched by the heads of government of Spain and Turkey.
For Zapatero and Erdogan "the initiative to form a true Alliance of Civilizations responds to a broad consensus among nations, cultures and civilizations that all societies are inter-dependent and their development, security and prosperity are all joined".
The two leaders said "the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is an obstacle for which it is urgent that the international community find a just and dignified solution".
I.e., let's throw Israel to the wolves and get on with our love-fest.
Posted by Robert at November 14, 2006 7:45 AM
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The true quintessence of european leftist, anti-semitic, dhimmi trash - Zapatero makes me feel physically ill. This cretin pictured within weeks of the anniversary of atocha wrapped in the palestinian kefiyeh, this spineless, cringing chinless dhimmi, too intellectually lazy to understand anything about the real clash of civilization against barbarity, too stupid to realise that, when the barbarians re-take alandalus, his head will probably be the first on a pole.
And who would mourn?
Posted by: thomas ato
at November 14, 2006 7:56 AM
Zapatero is a disgrace to his country's proud history.
Disgusting.
Posted by: Know Your Enemy
at November 14, 2006 8:28 AM
This is the opening paragraph of a book I have just written in my head, "Zapatero y yo":
"Zapatero es pequeño, peludo, suave; tan blando por fuera, que se diría todo de algodón, que no lleva huesos. Sólo los espejos de azabache de sus ojos son duros cual dos escarabajos de cristal negro.
Lo dejo suelto y se va al prado, y acaricia tibiamente con su hocico, rozándolas apenas, las florecillas rosas, celestes y gualdas... Lo llamo dulcemente: "¿Zapatero?", y viene a mí con un trotecillo alegre que parece que se ríe, en no sé qué cascabeleo ideal...
Come cuanto le doy. Le gustan las naranjas mandarinas, las uvas moscateles, todas de ámbar; los higos morados, con su cristalina gotita de miel...
Es tierno y mimoso igual que un niño, que una niña..."
It's the story of a complete ass.
at November 14, 2006 8:57 AM
Zapatero has been neutered. Why listen to his yapping?
Posted by: GaryK
at November 14, 2006 9:38 AM
One easily envisions Zapatero waiving that kefiya in surrender, as Hamas reclaims Al-Anadaluse for the Caliphate.
Any Spanish bloggers care to comment on Zapatero's chances of having a second term?
Posted by: waterdragon52
at November 14, 2006 9:48 AM
As always, Israel must be sacrificed to bring world peace. Does anyone with half a brain believe there will be world peace if Israel simply disappeared? If you really believe that then I have some beautiful oceanfront property in
Kansas to sell you.
at November 14, 2006 10:24 AM
he two leaders said "the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is an obstacle for which it is urgent that the international community find a just and dignified solution".
the real problem in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the palistinain peaple islam and hammas just look at what abass siad Abbas dismissed demands that Fatah recognize Israel - just one day before he told Rice that such recognition is a must. According to our religion, any land that we have occupied is our land. We must fight for our land. hell they know there the invaders but because of the belief Muslims have to invade and occupie any land they chose so they can try and convert the people to Islam and the people there are just supposed to accept it with out question
that is the real problem and if the two leaders and their breifers and yes men could read they would know this
at November 14, 2006 10:36 AM
Zapatero is a disgrace to his country's proud history.
Unfortunately, Spaniards in general seem to be disgracing their proud history. They elected Zapatero in a fit of dhimmitude after the Madrid bombing, caving in to the Islamists demands that they leave the Coalition in Iraq. They are changing the festivals celebrating their liberation from the Islamic yoke in order not to offend Muslims. And let's not forget that it seems it's a crime in some parts of Spain to be for the Israelis and not to believe Palestinian propaganda and lies. Anybody have anything else on the Spanish blogger that was accused of supporting Israel?
Given the special desire Islamists have to re-take Spain, that's all very bad news. Spaniards need to grow a spine or "el-Andalus" will be real again. My mother's grandparents were from Spain so it pains me to see them behaving that way.
By the way, Hugh, great stuff about Zapatero in Spanish, sadly it's right on the money.
Posted by: Proud Infidel
at November 14, 2006 10:38 AM
"By the way, Hugh, great stuff about Zapatero in Spanish, sadly it's right on the money."
-- from a posting above
Don't thank me. Thank Juan Ramon Jimenez.
Posted by: Hugh
at November 14, 2006 11:01 AM
Project for the Alliance of Civilizations? I think we're one civilization short in this "alliance". Islam is anything but civil.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at November 14, 2006 11:34 AM
For the confrontation to end both Camps must either agree or one Camp must no longer have the ability to launch attacks against the other.
at November 14, 2006 11:38 AM
ACTION ALERT: EMERGENCY U.N. SESSION TO DENOUNCE ISRAEL
Nov. 14, 2006
Tomorrow the newly formed UN Human Rights Council will meet in emergency session to consider a call by Islamic states to denounce "the Israeli targeting and killing of Palestinian civilians in Beit Hanoun while asleep." The Arab-sponsored draft goes on to list a long litany of alleged Israeli crimes—but fails to condemn the terrorism committed by Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other Palestinian groups. It doesn't even mention them at all.
This will mark the third emergency session in the Council's 5-month history—each of which has been against Israel. And the proposed draft, if adopted, will become the new body's fourth condemnatory resolution—each of which, again, has been against Israel.
At the UN, Israel has long been demonized as the world's worst violator of international law. But now, under the supposedly reformed Human Rights Council, Israel has become the world's only violator. The other 191 countries in the world body—including serial abusers like Sudan, China, Cuba—are of no interest at all.?
Sadly, the initiators of tomorrow's exercise seek to exploit human suffering for political ends. "What happened [last] week to residents in the northern Gaza town of Beit Hanoun was a terrible tragedy," wrote the Globe and Mail, Canada's leading newspaper. " But Palestinian authorities must share the blame. Because they did nothing to stop teams of militants from setting up in Beit Hanoun and brazenly firing Kassam rockets at Israeli communities, they set the stage for the inevitable Israeli response. No nation could stand by indefinitely while its citizens' lives were put at risk by wanton violence rained down on them daily for months on end. Sadly, Palestinian political leaders are all too ready to make a dreadful situation worse by escalating the violence. Hamas has declared that it will return after a two-year absence to its preferred terrorist tactic of sending suicide bombers into Israel."
Hopes were high that the new Council would become a protective voice for human rights victims worldwide. Instead it has been subverted right from the start.
At tomorrow's session the usual suspects will automatically throw their support behind the Arab and Islamic initiative.
But two big questions remain. Will France and the rest of the influential Europe Union forcefully oppose the biased resolution? What about Argentina and the South American countries?
The world will notice.
Urge countries to vote NO
Posted by: Malinois
at November 14, 2006 11:41 AM
Hugh,
excellent! your use of Juan Ramón Jiménez´s "Platero y yo" for Zapatero is really good.
We don´t know yet what will happen in next elections.
Definetely, his "Alliance of Civilizations" is NOT POPULAR at all in Spain. Even progressives don´t buy in it. Most of the people either bluntly mock it or simply ignore it. A recent decision to support a book on Islam for children at the school was not welcomed at all by the public.
His prospects for reelection are not sure. He is currently leading a minority Government that endures only due to the support in Parliament of the United Left and the separatists in the Basque Country and Catalonia. However, he and his friends control the overwhelming majority of the TV and radio stations, plus many papers. It is difficult to penetrate his propaganda machine.
Even in 2004 elections he won only in two regions (with enough population to tilt the balance in his favour). The current electoral law makes difficult to predict what will happen next with him.
at November 14, 2006 12:06 PM
zapatero should wear a burka.
Posted by: MP
at November 14, 2006 1:37 PM
"zapatero should wear a burka."
He can wear a black burka at night, when he rides his steed from house to house to ravish women and steal from the Capitalists to feed the poor, and leaves his mark -- Z -- on every door.
at November 14, 2006 1:47 PM
Hey Zappy, what will you say when the Islamaniacs come for you and want to return Spain to the Dark Ages? Will you still think Islam is civil?
What an idiot. Bring back his predecessor.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at November 14, 2006 2:09 PM
Zapatero is a spineless coward. The Spanish have a long history of anti semitism in their country.
If Spain continues on a path like it is, it will be just another third world dunghole.
Posted by: callmeinfidel
at November 14, 2006 2:41 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/14/world/14clash.html?pagewanted=print
Along the same line as the first article- here's some more UN-intelligence from the NYTimes:
November 14, 2006
World Leaders Release Plan for Resolving East-West Rift
By SEBNEM ARSU
ISTANBUL, Nov. 13 — Leaders from a variety of cultural and religious backgrounds on Monday announced a United Nations initiative to resolve the conflict between the West and the Muslim world.
They issued a framework for their effort, prepared over the past year, that singled out the Palestinian-Israeli conflict as a primary source of the deepening split.
“No other conflict carries such a powerful symbolic and emotional charge among people far removed from the battlefield,” Kofi Annan, the United Nations secretary general, said at a news conference. “As long as the Palestinians live under occupation, exposed to daily frustration and humiliation, and as long as Israelis are blown up in buses and in dance halls, so long will passions everywhere be inflamed.”
The report was drafted by 20 scholars and other leaders, including Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa, Mohammad Khatami, the former Iranian president, and others from many nations. It calls for collective action on issues of education, youth and immigration.
Members of the panel and Mr. Annan emphasized their view that the causes of tensions are primarily political, not religious.
The secretary general will appoint a representative to oversee the follow-up of the recommendations, which, Mr. Annan warned, will have little impact if Muslims in violent places — whether Iraqis, Afghans, Chechens or Palestinians — continue to perceive their situation merely as a case of being made victims by non-Muslims.
“If these conflicts or difficult situations can be resolved, it will have a positive impact on the work we are doing here,” Mr. Annan said.
The host of the event, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, emphasized the symbolic importance of holding it in Istanbul, which bridges East and West and is the leading city in a predominantly Muslim country taking steps to join the European Union.
Joining the European Union, he said, would “prove that the polarization between cultures is actually artificial and contrived.”
The Alliance of Civilizations Initiative was the idea of Prime Minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero of Spain, who suggested it six months after terrorist bombings in Madrid killed 191 people in 2004.
“We’re going to immobilize extremists, prevent their actions,” Mr. Zapatero said here. “Nobody should doubt our victory.”
Mr. Annan said in a written statement: “The problem is not the Koran or the Torah or the Bible. Indeed, I have often said that the problem is never the faith, it is the faithful and how they behave toward each other.”
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What is Mr. Zapatero's plan? Oh how nice! He doesn't actually say "lick their boots!"
at November 14, 2006 3:38 PM
Why do we keep losing to an enemy that is significantly dumber than we are? Oh yeah, because we are retarded. Little self-confidence, nationalism or anything like that.
Posted by: TheVoiceofTruth
at November 14, 2006 4:25 PM
So by putting it to an end we should just surrender I guess.
Posted by: pissedoffcanadian
at November 14, 2006 5:14 PM
"ISTANBUL, Nov. 13 — Leaders from a variety of cultural and religious backgrounds on Monday announced a United Nations initiative to resolve the conflict between the West and the Muslim world."
-- from a posting above
And what about the treatment of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh? The disguised Jizyah imposed on Chinese and Hindus in Malaysia? The attacks on Buddhist villagers, monks, and schoolteachers in Thailand? The attacks on Christians in Sudan, Nigeria, the Philippines? The attacks on Arabic-speaking Copts in Egypt, Chaldeans and Assyrians in Iraq, Maronites and Orthodox in Lebanon?
It isn't a "conflict between the West and the Muslim world." It is a conflict between the adherents of Islam and all the rest -- for it is against all the rest, and not merely the West, against which the aggression and violence of Muslims is directed, and has been long before there was a West for Muslims to attack.
Posted by: Hugh
at November 14, 2006 5:31 PM
Zapatero and Javier Solana are the by-products of post-Christian Spanish society, where immigrants are welcome, where everyone is naively optimistic in the face of the degradation of Christian values, where people don't marry but live with their "pareja"...
Elizabeth Kantor’s address, posted here not long ago should be translated into Spanish and circulated there.
at November 14, 2006 9:45 PM
This goon fails to realize two basic things:
First, the western democracies did not start this conflict. This conflict was conceived and planned by the Islamosphere in a bloody bid for global subjugation and is therefore not a conflict that westerners can simply choose to end and/or ignore. This conflict or 'confrontation' (as Zapatero euphemizes) will continue for as long as the Islamopshere continues to employ jihad as a legitimate (by its own political paradigm, not ours) and desired strategy.
Secondly, appeasement is not possible and will NOT put an end to this conflict even if it was.
This guy seems to be out to lunch permanently.
Posted by: pythagoras
at November 14, 2006 10:44 PM
The joint letter came as both premiers took part in Istanbul, along with U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan and others, in a high-level meeting of those promoting "the Project for an Alliance of Civilizations" launched by the heads of government of Spain and Turkey.
Just when you think it can't possibly get worse. the meddlesome and embarrassing Kofi in the mix as well. Not a peep re. Somalia from any of them I am sure. Why are our politicians so unaware and so oblivious? Are all of the nothing but emoty suits.. pompous and vain..
The moslems suggest to them that they are wearing wonderful clothes whilst we can clearly see they are naked and it's not a pretty sight to behold.
Paradise - living without moslems.
Posted by: Superkraut
at November 15, 2006 1:06 AM
I just registered at UNwatch and signed the protest agains the anti-Israel resolutin pending at the UN.
Why are we paying 25% of all UN dues to let these buffoons stay hear in NYC and come up with this garbage?!
Put the UN on Riker's Island.. Their actions border on criminal.
Posted by: Superkraut
at November 15, 2006 1:19 AM
A total suspension of rational thought is required to believe Allah. And then there is the little problem of motivation. Why would the nation of Israel collectively and comprehensively alter the totality of their scriptures and history in an attempt to foil a conman a thousand miles away and a thousand years distant?
The dark spirit of Islam has sent a “plague” from his abode and it has consumed men's minds. Hopefully there will be enough healthy neurons left for Muslims to make wise choices once they are exorcised from this pestilence
Posted by: islamakapigeaters
at November 15, 2006 2:01 AM
It is time for Europeans to dump the elites - the Ukraine's way or Robespierre's way - the time for action is now. These traitors are selling their countries down the Islamic river.
Posted by: Jimmy Bones
at November 15, 2006 2:47 AM
Hugh
I was very impressed with your spanish - until you said it was written by someone else - never mind I enjoyed it anyway.
I live in Madrid and I am currently working with the PP part as a volunteer to get rid of this F*** coward who is an embarrament to this country.
About a year ago I witnessed the seminal image of this man and I use the word "man" loosely.
He had to go in a helicopter to visit some troops - picture this coward sitting feotus like , cringing with pure fear in the back of a military helicopter - i WILL NEVER FORGET IT - How does a coward get control of a once proud country!!
at November 15, 2006 9:18 AM
Superkraut - The U.N. should be moved to someplace like Chad. Riker's Island is too close to civilization.
Posted by: MP
at November 15, 2006 12:54 PM
All I can say is that living in Israel feels more and more like it's Chechoslovakia 1938 again.
I am not really surprized though...
at November 15, 2006 2:18 PM
Zapatero is an ignorant, amoral, craven dhimmi.
at November 15, 2006 2:58 PM
I think I know, but which one is the ass?
Posted by: jsla
at November 15, 2006 10:39 PM
The BBC report started
It was an appropriate venue: an Ottoman Palace on one bank of the Bosphorus, with a view on to a vast bridge linking East and West.
"If we are to build bridges between civilizations, what better place to begin!" UN Secretary General Kofi Annan remarked in his opening address.
The meeting was in Istanbul, once the city of Byzantium, Constantinople, it was taken by the sword of Islam in 1453 with a great slaughter of the non-Muslims.
I added the last bit. That is all we need to understand, as the Islam we have now, is the same as the Islam we had then, what else is there to say?
at November 17, 2006 8:57 AM
The venue for this perverse conclave was well chosen, the former Constantinople where the center of one civilization was wrecked and replaced by a hostile culture. And the top flight personnel that attended was superb. Imagine, together with the Spanish royal shoemaker, there was Kofi Annan and the very appetizing and tasteful Khatami who is, I understand, a noted Persian fashion designer. He conceived burkas for ladies in three basic colors, preferably fashionable black, and three basic sizes, small, medium and large. His own personal burka is extra large. I've heard that Khatami was once a partner of Armani and Versace [תרתי משמע]. Anyhow, when you wear an ample burka in black you can wipe the blood off your hands quite handily.
On the other hand, some Spaniards have other thoughts about Islam than Zapatero. More than 100 years ago, the famous writer/essayist, Angel Ganivet, viewed Islam as a danger to civilization.
He proposed a strategy for containing Islam, rather than destroying it. See his words in both the original Spanish and in English translation:
http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2006/11/angel-ganivet-on-threat-of-islamic.html
at November 20, 2006 8:46 AM
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