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Regressive? Nah. Not when you're boldly moving forward into the 7th century. "Egypt Islamists demand minister quit over veil remarks" by Lamia Radi for AFP:
CAIRO (AFP) - Egypt's largest opposition group, the Muslim Brotherhood, has called for Culture Minister Faruq Hosni to be sacked for saying the wearing of Islamic veils was a "regressive" trend.
Hassan, who initiated the appeal, urged parliament to "remove this minister and replace him with a minister of culture who will respect our constitution, our Sharia (Islamic law) and our values".
"The appeal was presented to parliament on Thursday evening, and will be examined in the coming days," he said.
In an interview published Thursday, Hosni said that the ever-growing number of women wearing the Islamic veil in Egypt was regressive.
"There was an age when our mothers went to university and worked without the veil. It is in that spirit that we grew up. So why this regression?," the minister said in the independent Al-Masri Al-Yom daily.
"Each woman with her beautiful hair is like a flower, and should not be concealed from the view of others," Hosni said in his interview, arguing: "Religion today focuses on appearances too much.
"A woman's true veil is the inner veil, not the visible one. The relationship between God and a person does not hinge on the latter's sartorial decisions."
Hassan retorted: "If Mr. Hosni has personal opinions on any subject, he should keep them for his private conversations, and not use his official position to impose them on public opinion, by giving views that are contrary to our traditions and religious principles."
The Islamist group's deputy supreme guide, Mohammed Habib, for his part said Hosni's statements would pave the way for "obscenity."
"Qualifying wearing the veil as regressive is an invitation for obscenity," he told AFP.
Habib accused Hosni of attempting to "destroy the cultural characteristics of the Islamic nation" and wanting to "throw himself into the arms of the West, which attacks the wearing of the veil."
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Most Muslim clerics consider wearing the veil to be a religious obligation, and growing conservatism has seen most women take up the veil in Egypt, formerly considered one of the most liberal societies in the Middle East.
Posted by Marisol at November 18, 2006 12:04 AM
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ROTFL!!! In other words, the Muslim Brotherhood has just accused the vast majority of muslim women, who do not wear the veil, of obscenity.
Dare we hope that this will finally get the 'moderate muslims' to speak up against the fundamentalist clerics?
Of course not.
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at November 18, 2006 12:43 AM
Nasser was on to something when he cracked down on the Muslim Brotherhood. Looks like Egypt is going backward but then again it is an Islamic country. If they want to be backward, so be it. No more aid from the US though. If Egypt is going backward then their financial needs should also go backward.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 18, 2006 1:00 AM
Does anyone know if there is a movement in Egypt to raze the pyramids & rubblize other pre-Islamic architecture & art?
Posted by: MontyRockIV at November 18, 2006 1:10 AM
Does anyone know if there is a movement in Egypt to raze the pyramids & rubblize other pre-Islamic architecture & art?
Posted by: MontyRockIV at November 18, 2006 01:10 AM
I'm sure there's a "movement" to destroy all unislamic icons, but Egypt depends on the pyramids for tourism. The government needs the money, one of its very few sources of revenue besides US foreign aid. So I guess they protect the pyramids as best they can but the zealots will eventually blow them up unless security is airtight. And there's no such thing as airtight security in the islamic world.
I'm surprised they've lasted this long; Egypt has been slipping backwards for a number of years just like all of the former European colonies. Just think, once they were almost civilized and look at them now. Of course to hear them tell it, they're still "recovering" from colonialism. Colonialism is the best thing that ever happened to that desolate wasteland, but the colonists are paying very dearly for their efforts. The former colonists, beseiged by guilt and self-hatred, invited muslims to colonize Europe to atone for their imperialism. The only problem is that the muslims won't improve Europe, they'll destroy it, and they'll never leave.
Posted by: Susanp at November 18, 2006 1:46 AM
The former colonists, beseiged by guilt and self-hatred, invited muslims to colonize Europe to atone for their imperialism. The only problem is that the muslims won't improve Europe, they'll destroy it, and they'll never leave.
Posted by: Susanp at November 18, 2006 01:46 AM
This must be the Muslim Man's Burden!
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 18, 2006 1:51 AM
Most Muslim clerics consider wearing the veil to be a religious obligation,
When has fetishism been a religious obligation
Veil fetishists may be interested in niqabs, burkas and harem-style veils.
Some are attracted to women who wear all-covering Muslim-style veils, while others are attracted to women wearing translucent veils.
They may only have basic sexual desires, or they may believe that veiling should be compulsory for all women.
Fetishists include both Muslims and non-Muslims. And it's even more to some Islamist men, who claim to find the veil sexy;and see it as creating "a truly erotic culture in which one dispenses with the need for the artificial excitement that pornography provides."
Posted by: shiva at November 18, 2006 1:54 AM
Does anyone know if there is a movement in Egypt to raze the pyramids & rubblize other pre-Islamic architecture & art?Not at present, though IMO the biggest reason the pyramids are in their current deplorable state is that for centuries Muslims mined their limestone outer casings to build mosques, exposing the underlying stone to weather and wear. That, plus the destruction of the native Egyptian language and culture by the conquering Muslims, mean most of the damage has already been done. Posted by: aynrandgirl
at November 18, 2006 3:14 AM
The tyranny of enforced veil fetishism is the most suppressives of tyrannies throughout the world and its history, the one limiting natural sexuality is the most heinous and profound -- for it is in the sexuality of women that one has the potential to access the myriad of nested layers of multidimensional realities that exist all around us.
If one is into pain and bondage, power over their partner, cruelty and vindictiveness, or simple selfishness; then sure enough the experience will activate all the negative and lousy emotions we so often associate with lousy sex.Restrictive emotions will leave one limited and limiting, lust will go unsatisfied, and the encounter will be negative, draining, and basically screwed up,as can be seen through out the islamic world.
at November 18, 2006 3:40 AM
"Each woman with her beautiful hair is like a flower, and should not be concealed from the view of others. Religion today focuses on appearances too much. A woman's true veil is the inner veil, not the visible one. The relationship between God and a person does not hinge on the latter's sartorial decisions."This Faruq Hosni is obviously guilty of the crime of independent, creative thinking.
Shame on him for trying to reason it out for himself instead of just quoting the radical imams. You know what happens to guys like him in an Islamist country.
at November 18, 2006 11:43 AM
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