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"None of the boys is of Christian faith." As Tammy Bruce remarked to me yesterday when I did her show from here at the Restoration Weekend, a reliable way to know that the perpetrators of a given deed reported in news story were Muslim is the lack of any mention of their religion, or in this case, the assurance that they were not Christian. Hmmmm. Non-Christians from Serbia-Montenegro and Bosnia. Might they belong to a religion some of whose adherents, as Oriana Fallaci pointed out, have taken great pleasure in desecrating churches and monuments in Europe? Might this be an expression of Islamic contempt for those whom the Qur'an calls the "vilest of creatures" -- unbelievers (98:6)?
A translation by Mussi of "Kirche mit Kot beschmiert," a German-language article from Blick Online:
Muttenz, Basle – A bad joke or is there more behind this? The catholic church in Muttenz, Basle, has been repeatedly soiled with fecals for the last two weeks by teenagers.A new day, a new shocker: They soiled the altar with excrements. They urinated into the baptism font, destroyed glassware on the donation table and destroyed vegetation.
The perpetrators: A gang of 12- and 13-year olds. One boy is Swiss (nationality), two are from former Serbia-Montenegro and two are from Bosnia. None of the boys is of Christian faith.
Investations are now underway, the public prosecutor is checking the situation of the children. Two of them are already in 'specialized institutions', three are currently examed by specialized medical personnel, according to the police.
The Swiss youth penal law could impose community service, a stay in an educational institution or name an assistant for the parents of the concerned children to help them educate their children.
What if the problem turns out to be how they have educated their children up to this point?
Posted by Robert at November 18, 2006 7:12 AM
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The Swiss youth penal law could impose community service, a stay in an educational institution or name an assistant for the parents of the concerned children to help them educate their children.
What if the problem turns out to be how they have educated their children up to this point?
This is where it begins to make sense about deporting the families of the offender
Posted by: shiva![[TypeKey Profile Page]](http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/nav-commenters.gif)
at November 18, 2006 7:46 AM
Deportation? Back to say, Kosovo, where they have destroyed or desecrated 150 religious shrines under the watchful eye of NATO since 1999?
They are taught this stuff by their parents...Clinton's allies.
at November 18, 2006 8:31 AM
Why not make them clean it up and transport it to a mosque where they should be forced to do the same thing....
Posted by: lonewolf at November 18, 2006 8:45 AM
Swiss neutrality - bah, humbug! A cowards position.
Posted by: Pelayo at November 18, 2006 8:48 AM
And the redeeming value of islam is........?
Posted by: freewoman at November 18, 2006 9:06 AM
The Swiss youth penal law could impose community service, a stay in an educational institution or name an assistant for the parents of the concerned children to help them educate their children.
from above
Hmmmm, well,I would like to suggest, for a better results, a psychyatrist. A good one. With an expiriance for chronical sickness of mind called "islam". Say, Radovan Karadzic for example.
at November 18, 2006 10:04 AM
So the yoots are in an "institution". When will their parents join them?
Europe needs an enema to purge its bowels of this poop once and for all. This long lasting constipation is painfully killing it.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 18, 2006 12:14 PM
The children of our muslim "guest worker" and "asylum seeker" populations do not learn discipline and respect at home from their muslim parents.
Islam destroys family by superseding it with the demand for total, unqualified fealty to Allah and his Ummah.
This is why Islamic countries are so run down and filthy. This is why rape and robbery flourish among Moslems, especially in Dar al Islam, where the example of Mohammed's "most excellent pattern of conduct" prevails.
Male homosexuality, rampant in Islam, is perhaps the best measure of Islam's alientation from family. Moslems are so complex. They breed like bulls & cows, with foremost determination. But then, after the breeding for the cause, it is time for the Moslem Men to get together and have some real fun.
Especially if there are some yearling bulls about.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at November 18, 2006 12:16 PM
Humiliating other faith's signs and places with excrements is documented as a Muslim practice in "The Life of the Prophet" by Ibn Ishaq (8th century) in the story about Amr ibn Jamooh (which is reported in wiki in a very much softened version).
His idol was regularly thrown into the defecation pit and saved and cleaned by him until he gave in and accepted Islam.
Posted by: FreeSpeech at November 18, 2006 12:25 PM
Those kids needed their noses rubbed in it and then spanked.
Posted by: freewoman at November 18, 2006 1:29 PM
"Investations are now underway, the public prosecutor is checking the situation of the children. Two of them are already in 'specialized institutions', three are currently examed by specialized medical personnel, according to the police."
LOL
specialized institutions. TOLD you those people have IQ below 60!!!
Posted by: StillFedUp at November 18, 2006 1:32 PM
I am most eager to hear the explanation for this hate crime. Likely, they were incorrigible, mischevious youths with no agenda other than unruliness.
Today it is defecation of altars; tomorrow it is bombing them.
Posted by: Sir Oinks Alot at November 18, 2006 2:11 PM
"Hmmmm. Non-Christians from Serbia-Montenegro and Bosnia."
LOL classic.
NAZISM = ISLAM
to Islamic trolls out there: read your quran/hadiths if you see that we are right then leave that cult. If you still AGREE with Islamic beliefs after reading all the jihad doctrine, and how its okay to kill innocent muslims, and do the deed with little girls (Muhammed married a 9 year old)...well then you truly are vile subhuman and my equation is right on isnt it?
at November 18, 2006 3:25 PM
One of the more scarier aspects of Islam is how seriously even children take it. 13-year olds are desecrating churches in the name of Allah.
Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop at November 18, 2006 3:42 PM
No surprise. They did the same thing in Bethlehem when they took over the church there.
So what is the remedy? First, they should be forced to do restitution. They should be forced to clean the church that they have desecrated. They should be forced to attend the church services for the next year, with their parents also attending the services. If they are unwilling to agree, then they should be deported back to their own country.
There is nothing new about this form of iconoclasm. They need to have it spelled out to them that such behaviour in a civilized country is unacceptable. If they are unwilling to accept their Christian neighbours then they must be returned to their native country, without any further action by the government. Too much money has been wasted on them already.
Posted by: Maggie4Life at November 18, 2006 4:02 PM
One of the more scarier aspects of Islam is how seriously even children take it. 13-year olds are desecrating churches in the name of Allah.
Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop
Yes JCS I mentioned before in another post I have an exmuslim friend from Turkey who said they were encouraged in the mosques to show their love and fear of allah. He attacked some old woman who was wearing a small cross. He was about 14 or so I believe. He has left the cult and has told me "we were animals"....
at November 18, 2006 4:03 PM
THE ALLIES SHALL WIN,
Your Turkey friend is right -- Muslims are animals!
See the guy named Mohammed Islam who sticked a cell phone into the ass!
I thought Westerners were kinky people as compared to Asians. Now I think Muslims are kinkier!
Posted by: kung fu fighter at November 18, 2006 4:14 PM
They should put the kids into a good Christian home,
be raise as Christian and no contact with the parents. The parents should be deported.
at November 18, 2006 5:55 PM
There is just a general lack of leadership in the west that makes this possible - and this lack of leadership (by which I mean accurately recognizing and addressing a threat) extends even to institutions which you would expect to be at the forefront of a response to Islamization. Take the catholic church for example... an idea widespread among the catholic leadership is that Buddha, Allah, Vishnu are all simply different names for the Christian God. Except Satan. The hierarchy is still in agreement that that Satan is not simply another name for the christian God. Now, if you were Satan, would you be stupid enough to manifest yourself always under the name Satan? Wouldn't you think of manifesting yourself under a different name at some point, like maybe Allah?
Of course, most of the hierachy believes Satan doesn't exist.....
at November 18, 2006 7:16 PM
Anyone surprised?
No. Not surprised. Just sad. #
They are what they are and what they are taught by their parents and authorities. But there is something we should never forget: they would never have managed to get in our countries if we had not allowed them to do so!
If I find a crocodile in my bathtub, I do not hate the crocodile - I hate the one, who deliberately put it in my bathtub.
No. No surprise: Look what they did to Joseph's tomb in Shechem:
Posted by: Eisvogel
at November 18, 2006 9:14 PM
Posted by: kung fu fighter
I thought Westerners were kinky people as compared to Asians. Now I think Muslims are kinkier!
Most asians happen to be quite normal and are also victims of Islam,it,s the muslims segment of asians that are Kinky.
Posted by: shiva at November 18, 2006 9:32 PM
Many years back, neo-Pagan vandals burned down some Stavkerken in Norway--ancient wooden buildings that look a little like paagodas, but which are among the oldest Christian buildings in that country.
So, let's have it out: what kind of non-Christians?
Jews? I doubt that there are that many below the age of 50 in Bosnia and Serbia. That narrows the choices to the thoroughly secularized and the Whozzits.
at November 18, 2006 10:37 PM
Can you just imagine what would happen to Christian kids caught doing this in mosques? They and their parents would probably be sentenced to yearCas of sensitivity and diversity training and anger management classes.
This is a hate crime if I ever saw one but I'm sure these little delinquent sociopaths will get a symbolic slap on the hand, maybe a lecture, and return to their dysfunctional hovels for intensive jihad training.
Ramon and other muslim posters have the audacity to declare American society corrupt and decadent, and muslims extol islamic "family values." Islamic family values amount to imprisoning girls inside the home as domestic slaves until they are sold in marriage; boys are treated like royalty, never disciplined, left unsupervised and free to wreak terror on society. Their frustrated, lonely mothers are also prisoners in their own homes, dutifully awaiting conjugal visits from dad, who is busy making the rounds among multiple wives and siring more incorrigible brats. The islamic version of a "family" is a farce. Some muslim males have so many children by multiple wives, they don't even know all their names.
The islamic "family" is as bizarre and dysfunctional as every other aspect of islam, from the depraved practice of intermarriage to the time-honored tradition of honor killing. Tradition is a lovely concept but there are many islamic traditions that should have been abolished centuries ago.
Posted by: Susanp at November 18, 2006 11:09 PM
Historian Conor Cruise O'Brien:
"Arab and Muslim society is sick and has been sick for a long time. At the heart of the matter is the Muslim family, an abominable institution. It looks repulsive because it is repulsive.."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/009016.php
Posted by: Silvester at November 19, 2006 5:51 AM
I am currently reading WHILE EUROP SLEPT by Bruce Bawer. Since he has known for years that Europe is slowly becoming a colony of the Islamic world, what happened to the church in Switzerland would not surprise him one bit.
Posted by: Christian at November 22, 2006 11:44 AM
If anybody wants to read Bawer's website, it is http://www.brucebawer.com.
Mr. Bawer is gay and he moved to Europe several years ago because his homosexual marriage is legally recognized there.
Even though Bawer's site has a lot of articles about gays that some readers of Jihad Watch may find offensive, the site has numerous other good articles about radical Islam. Consequently, a link to Bawer's site should be posted on Jihad Watch.
at November 22, 2006 11:48 AM
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