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Here is a somewhat mournful and puzzled NPR story about how oppositon to Muslim immigration is not just the province of "ultra right-wing parties" in Europe anymore. "Danes' Anti-Immigrant Backlash Marks Radical Shift," by Sylvia Poggioli for NPR, with thanks to P.:
Morning Edition, November 20, 2006 · An anti-immigrant backlash, bordering on xenophobia, is sweeping across Europe. Sentiments once associated with ultra right-wing parties are becoming mainstream. Many taboos are being broken -- nowhere more starkly than in Denmark -- the erstwhile poster child of the welcoming and nurturing welfare state.Earlier this year, that haven of solidarity and liberalism was shaken by violent protests and deaths in the Muslim world over cartoons of Mohammed that were published in a Danish paper. Suddenly, Danes began to see their own Muslim immigrants as a threat to their national identity.
The cartoon crisis hit hard in the Copenhagen commune of Christiania, a bastion of the counterculture where freedom of speech is the paramount value.
Sculptor/welder Charlotte Steem, one of the commune's 800 residents, says the violence with which some Muslims reacted to the Mohammed cartoons has undermined many of her convictions.
"There are a lot of things I don't understand in [the] Muslim world," Steem says. She recognizes the free society of her country but says she doesn't know whether borders can remain open.
Only a few years ago, Denmark was proud of its open-door policy, and even the mildest critique of immigration would have been labeled racist.
But the mood shifted after Sept. 11, and the terrorist attacks in Europe. After many years of leftist rule, a right-wing government came to power, introducing Europe's toughest immigration laws.
It also introduced restrictions aimed at curbing forced marriages among Muslims.
Today, the Danish political discourse is no longer stifled by political correctness. The tone can even be inflammatory. One politician has called for the internment of some Muslim radicals in Denmark for security reasons.
And last year, a radio station went so far as to call for the extermination of all radical Muslims.
The difficulty of integrating Muslims who don't share Western values is the No.1 topic of discussion.
Currently, the nation's best-selling book is called Islamists and Naivists.
"We compare Islamism to Nazism and communism because they are all three of them a totalitarian ideology," says Karen Jespersen, who co-wrote the book with her husband, Ralf Pittlekow.
Their politically incorrect analysis would suggest they're right-wingers. But they're diehard Social Democrats -- proud veterans of the student protests of the 1960s.
Jespersen, a feminist and a former interior minister in charge of immigration issues, says the radicals' goal is the Islamization of Europe. When she was in government, many Muslims told her they were not free to adapt to Western society.
"In the parallel society, they use the term 'Muslim police,'" she says. "They are trying to control the more moderate Muslims. If they see their daughters talking to boys, then they go to the fathers and say, 'I saw your girl talking to a boy, and how can you let her? You have to stop it immediately.'"
The concept of the cradle-to-grave welfare state is so deeply embedded in the Danish psyche that even the conservatives don't dare touch it. But many Danes say their social pact has been undermined by the large inflow of immigrants -- many of whom don't share Danish civic values and, they say, prefer to live on the dole rather than work for the minimum wage.
"A welfare state can only function if there are restrictions on the border," says Soren Espersen, a leading member of the right-wing Danish People's Party, which has had increasing electoral success running on an anti-immigration platform.
The government depends on the party's parliamentary support to pass bills.
Espersen points out that thanks to new laws, annual immigration has declined to 2,000 last year from 27,000 in 2001. Asylum for refugees has also dropped sharply.
Despite promoting Europe's harshest immigration law, the DPP rejects being identified with the racism and anti-Semitism associated with French ultra right-wing politician Jean-Marie Le Pen. It's radical Islam, Espersen says, that today represents the extreme right.
And the only way to combat it is through integration and education, he says.
Commentator David Trads says there is such a broad political consensus that the DPP has become mainstream.
"We want as few new immigrants as possible," Trads says. "This is new; this is not how it was five years ago."
Posted by Robert at November 20, 2006 11:20 AM
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Three cheers for the Danes! I'll buy an extra package of cheese this week.
Sorry I missed this story on NPR. I would have liked to hear Sylvia Poggioli face up to some reality. No doubt she sounded mournful.
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at November 20, 2006 11:37 AM
NPR---part of the treason lobby, together with the ACLU, CAIR, et al, funded by the Ford Foundation (and similar organizations) and waging a relentless campaign to promote multiculturalism, dissolution of our borders, and One World Government.
Posted by: US_infidel at November 20, 2006 11:38 AM
this is just the beginning
Posted by: StillFedUp at November 20, 2006 11:40 AM
Stopping immigration doesn`t resolve anything , if
immigrants have more children than the indigenous
population they will soon catch up and be the
majority.
Repatriation/deportation is required.
at November 20, 2006 11:49 AM
"the DPP rejects being identified with the racism and anti-Semitism associated with French ultra right-wing politician Jean-Marie Le Pen. It's radical Islam, Espersen says, that today represents the extreme right."
I don't know whether it's "extreme right" or "extreme left" or extreme up or down. But it does represent extreme totalitarianism and imperialism, and this truth is something so foreign to the pre-wired brains of the NPR intelligensia that Paggioli and her clique will never be able to fathom it.
at November 20, 2006 11:56 AM
Denmark is quickly becoming my favorite country in Europe. Any country that can induce hysteria in NPR must be doing something right. God bless them and spread the word to your large southern neighbor.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 20, 2006 11:57 AM
Alladinsane57,
I'll echo that. We should leave the champaigne corked for now. The Danish Muslim birthrate will skyrocket to compensate for the decline in immigration. Their precious social welfare state will be their destruction if they don't deal with this.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen at November 20, 2006 12:02 PM
"We compare Islamism to Nazism and communism because they are all three of them a totalitarian ideology," says Karen Jespersen, who co-wrote the book with her husband, Ralf Pittlekow.
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That's an interesting comparison. Because all three ideologies have at least two things in common: dictatorship and genocide.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 20, 2006 12:32 PM
Slightly off topic but never mind...
Why, when this whole anti-islam is nothing to do with Left or Right, do I always see Pym Fortuyn referred to as an extreme right winger. He was a gay socialist!
Posted by: Celsius at November 20, 2006 12:33 PM
As a Dane I can honestly say that the vast majority of Danes don't like muslims one bit. But of course we want to be civilized in our way of dealing with them. We should recognize that it was a mistake to let them in. Muslim immigration can't be compared to immigration from non-muslim parts of the world. So we should start talking about how we can repatriate them. However no killings or massacres must take place! Hatred must not be allowed to cloud our judgment. We have the moral high ground, but we loose it if we don't deal with this situation in a civilized manner. Fortunately we are used to be civilized in Denmark. We have been involved in many wars in our history but we have always treated our enemies and their civilians properly, it was soldiers against soldiers. We have a clean history in that regard and it should remain so.
Posted by: seville844 at November 20, 2006 12:36 PM
read this piece on how RUSSIANS are not dhimmi
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/11/19/MNGJGMFUVG1.DTL
Posted by: StillFedUp at November 20, 2006 12:52 PM
"As a Dane I can honestly say that the vast majority of Danes don't like muslims one bit. But of course we want to be civilized in our way of dealing with them. We should recognize that it was a mistake to let them in. Muslim immigration can't be compared to immigration from non-muslim parts of the world. So we should start talking about how we can repatriate them. However no killings or massacres must take place! Hatred must not be allowed to cloud our judgment."
Posted by: seville844
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I completely agree. There is of course a huge difference between non-Muslim immigrants and Muslim immigrants. Even here in Sweden, Swedes are starting to realise this. It used to be that Swedes who were against immigrants disliked all immigrants, but now it's becoming more anti-Islam. But like you said: no killings or massacres. We must not lower ourselves to their level like when they slaughtered the Assyrians and Armenians.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 20, 2006 12:56 PM
good the danes are waking up now if the usa and canada and the western goverments would just do the same and realize that in dealing with islam we are dealing with a world wide cult not a religion but a cult worse than what hittler started in ww2
Posted by: islamakapigeaters at November 20, 2006 12:58 PM
Here's the report
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6505809
Click listen
I will listen later I can't hear here
at November 20, 2006 12:59 PM
seville844: Well stated.
Re: "Their politically incorrect analysis would suggest they're right-wingers. But they're diehard Social Democrats -- proud veterans of the student protests of the 1960s."
Isn't one definition of a conservative being a liberal who has been mugged by reality?
Posted by: johnb at November 20, 2006 1:00 PM
seville844 writes:
"As a Dane I can honestly say that the vast majority of Danes don't like muslims one bit. But of course we want to be civilized in our way of dealing with them. "
I've seen a number of people propose a buyout
scheme. I read about it first on Steve Sailer's
blog (www.isteve.com) and the article is published here.
http://www.vdare.com/sailer/051127_buyout.htm
It's certainly worth considering if an incentive
system if you think it's feasible to avoid
violence at this point. It may be, for Denmark,
but I think for some other countries that
violence and massacres will (sadly) be required.
at November 20, 2006 1:02 PM
"the DPP rejects being identified with the racism and anti-Semitism associated with French ultra right-wing politician Jean-Marie Le Pen."
-- from the article above
Le Pen is an antisemite and a fool, and has been the single greatest obstacle to an intelligent policy to diminish the power and presence of Muslims in France. His demise, in one way or another, would boost the forces of those who rightly feel imperilled by that Muslim presence and power.
At his last meeting, he entertained M'Bala M'Bala Dieudonne, the African antisemite (just doing it for the Arab boys in the 'hood) and all-round shit (the mot juste) and so-called comic (the mot here most injuste), which should give you some idea of what Le Pen, who in the early and mid 1950s would have been one more petty poujadiste au zinc (pronounced "zang") and in the early and mid 1940s would have been a dutifal petainiste and collaborator. He's a type, Le Pen. He's easily recognizable.
The real opposition, the sensible opposition, to Islam in France is embodied by Philippe de Villiers. He's good. He needs as much support and then as much power in the political councils as he can get.
He can't win nationally, but his party can be more rather than less powerful. That would be a good thing, as long as in a race between Sarkozy and Royal he doesn't take votes from whichever side is most deserving of support. Either Sarkozy or Royal would be an improvement on Chirac and Dominique de V. Whether Chirac goes to prison or to Salpetriere for psychic examination -- well, you choose which you think most fitting.
I favor prison.
Posted by: Hugh at November 20, 2006 1:11 PM
Well done the Danes, could this be the glimmer of light at the end of the the dark Islamic tunnel currently engulfing Europe.
To all the Muslims who happen to read this.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The umma awaits you and all the sharia you crave. I just hope you enjoy eating sand.
Posted by: km at November 20, 2006 1:14 PM
Re: "Their politically incorrect analysis would suggest they're right-wingers. But they're diehard Social Democrats -- proud veterans of the student protests of the 1960s."
Isn't one definition of a conservative being a liberal who has been mugged by reality?
Good passage to pick out. It's ashame it's gotten to the point where NPR is assuming that only "right-wingers" should be in opposition to totalitarianism. The author seems to be appalled that so many people would oppose intolerance.
Posted by: Jan Sobieski at November 20, 2006 1:23 PM
Kohler: Muslim women a “real treasure” for Germany
Posted by: ummahnewslinks at November 20, 2006 1:23 PM
root_cause;
I think you are right, unfortunately. Denmark is a special case because the anti-jihad awareness is high and the muslims are a smaller percentage of the total population than in many other parts of the continent. So it may just still be possible for us to get rid of our muslim population without too much (if any) violence. But for many other european countries it's already too late for that...
Posted by: seville844 at November 20, 2006 1:25 PM
But for many other european countries it's already too late for that...
I couldnt agree more, I hope the Muslims voluntarily decide to leave Dar-al-harb, but I fear it will come down to violence in the street.
at November 20, 2006 1:31 PM
Espersen points out that thanks to new laws, annual immigration has declined to 2,000 last year from 27,000 in 2001. Asylum for refugees has also dropped sharply.
This is a dream. Don't taunt me with dreams like this. Over here we're just now transitioning from dumbass George W. Bush to Ultra-dumbass Hillary Rodham Clinton [sic]. How dare you tease me with a glimmer at the end of this dark endless tunnel called Moslem immigration.
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We compare Islamism to Nazism and communism because they are all three of them a totalitarian ideology...
I find this comparison totally unacceptable. What we need to do is compare Islam to Naziism and Communism.
Moderate Nazis, indeed, Ralf.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at November 20, 2006 1:35 PM
Quit comparing Islam with Nazism already. You're giving Nazis a bad name. At least the Nazis came up with the autobahn and the Volkswagen for all their horrible brutality. That's more than Islam can claim-it's yet to give even one thing useful to the world.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 20, 2006 2:14 PM
ISLAMSFORLOSERS, lol, you got a good point there. As bad as Nazis were, they at least contributed with some good stuff to humanity. That, I have yet to see from the Muslim world. And I'm not keeping my hopes up :)
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 20, 2006 2:29 PM
Islamism is an extreme right wing form of fundamentalism that is indistinguishable from either Christian fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism or Hindu fundamentalism as far as religion is concerned.
However, there is a big difference and that is Islamism is a political organization disguised as a religion. There is virtually no difference between Islamism and Nazism. The Islamists have the same extreme goals as the Nazis and the neo-Nazis. That is why they must be stopped.
The Islamists love to play the victim. However, the more I learn about them the more I see them as the aggressor, and that includes the women who parade in the hijabs in my shopping centres.
Politically, I am neither left nor right, and I do not think it fair that people are constantly categorized as either left or right. As is stands, if that was the case then I would have to say that all left wingers are devoid of morals because the left promotes precisely what the Nazis promoted in pre-war Germany and also during the war in Germany and Europe - eugenics.
The problem of Islam is outside of these boundaries.
Posted by: Maggie4Life at November 20, 2006 2:32 PM
isalmisforlosers,
Here is the only thing worthwhile that has been derived from the Arabian Penninsula: Their horses. They bred excellent horses so that they could raid and plunder. Being that the Bedouins had horses before the advent of Islam, one could conclude that Islam can not take credit even for that...it just continued to use the horses to raid and plunder.
Posted by: never_submit at November 20, 2006 2:39 PM
"Islamism is an extreme right wing form of fundamentalism that is indistinguishable from either Christian fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism or Hindu fundamentalism as far as religion is concerned."
Posted by: Maggie4Life
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Wrong. Christian fundamentalism at its worst is nowhere near radical Islam. And that goes for all the other religions you mentioned too.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 20, 2006 2:45 PM
Dear EilasAlucard:
You stated: "Christian fundamentalism at its worst is nowhere near radical Islam. And that goes for all the other religions you mentioned too."
Amen to that. During the worst part of the Middle Ages, the Catholic church killed fewer people in an entire century than the Islamist fascists have done in the last 6 months.
I don't see forced Christian converstions today. I don't see Christians beheading people.
One main difference (of very many) between Muhammad and Jesus is this:
Muhammad said: "SUBMIT".
Jesus said: "DECIDE".
Finally, as to another post regarding Dane immigration dropping down to 2000. Well I hate to spoil the good news, but if the rest of Europe become Eurabia, how long do you think the Danes will remain free with millions of militant angry Islamists breathing down your neck? Do you think they will leave you to your "infidel ways"?
For Danes (even with zero imnmigration & 100% deportation) to survive they have got to help save Europe as well...if it can be saved.
Posted by: Levi at November 20, 2006 3:15 PM
HELLO SYLVIA -
Here's some more jawdroppinews for ya:
"Three-quarters of the state legislatures will ratify an amendment to the United States Constitution banning all adherents, practices and forms of Islam based on the Qur'an."
Posted by: Malinois at November 20, 2006 3:18 PM
Why, when this whole anti-islam is nothing to do with Left or Right, do I always see Pym Fortuyn referred to as an extreme right winger. He was a gay socialist!
Posted by: Celsius
Because anything the media doesn't like is considered "right-wing". Hitler, a socialist (Nazi) is considered right-wing.
Posted by: Carolyn2 at November 20, 2006 3:23 PM
Levi wrote: "...For Danes (even with zero imnmigration & 100% deportation) to survive they have got to help save Europe as well...if it can be saved..."
You are absolutely right. I think in the end Denmark will one day become free of muslims, either by repatriation or having them leave because they can't stand our "terribly unislamic" customs. But of course that only solves the domestic problem of Islam, because what about the rest of Europe? If Germany becomes muslim it will once again pose a leathal threat to our independence, as it has done in earlier periods of our history.
Posted by: seville844 at November 20, 2006 3:29 PM
seville844:
Very good. You're perfectly right to take the moral high ground in this.
Might I suggest to the Danes (and to the rest of Europe):
If you wake up from your slumber and begin to take steps to repatriate Muslims and stop their immigration, START HAVING BABIES TOO. There's no point in saving your country if you don't have any children to save it for.
Go Denmark! Be an example to the rest of Europe! We here in America support you!
at November 20, 2006 3:44 PM
Whatever the complications (and there are plenty) this news really is a glimmer of hope. I shall be asking for Danish Christmas presents.
Posted by: Malta_1565 at November 20, 2006 3:48 PM
It is just a matter of time before wife-beating Nazi Muslim supremacists, lose their cachet as 'oppressed third world progressive people' - even in Europe.
Cartoon rage is a wonderful example of Islam 'explaining itself' better than Esposito etc. ever can. The best thing of all is to stir up more of this 'rage' and don't worry about them running out. Its like the miracle of the loaves and fishes Islamic style - a miraculously endless supply of rage. The Palestinians are a wonderful example.
Posted by: poetcomic1
at November 20, 2006 3:54 PM
It's easy for Denmark to say good riddance to islam. Denmark does not have a faustian deal with Saudi Arabia. America and Canada, do. Denmark is also a small country, like Israel, so they can see the problem up close before it gets too entrenched. We, here, are too big to see the forest through the trees. Our nations are collossal, by comparision, so islam, as well as other pathogens, can infect us without the average man on the street knowing anything about it. Until it is too late. As well, Denmark is not used to foreigners chanting death threats about them. When it happened, it was a shock to their national psyche. America, on the otherhand, it so used to those, that the population is inured to it all.
That is why I have more hope for them than I do for us. Much easier to save Denmark from da'wa than to save the US.
We might all have to move to Denmark when the flag of islam flies over the Whitehouse.
Posted by: August22 at November 20, 2006 4:21 PM
The Danes make wonderful beer, ham, cookies, cheese, etc. These items make excellent Christmas gifts for friends and co-workers.
Posted by: MP at November 20, 2006 4:24 PM
To everyone here thinking that Europe is doomed, you have to remember that Europe has saved itself from Islam in the past. Spain was conquered by the Muslims (Al-Andalus) and the Christians managed to take it back in the end.
So there's still hope left.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 20, 2006 4:28 PM
anti-dhimmitude in scandinavia? I will believe it when I see it. People's moods may be changing but I still think they have a long way to go. After the danish cartoon outbursts a danish artist was on the BBC making art that tried to shame serbia into handing over more war crime suspects. How is that anti-dhimmitude. Until the hague is disbanded or they start trying muslims there along with clinton and blair we are a far way off from seeing anti-dhimmitude in Europe especially scandinavia. As all of Europe is condemning Turkey for lack of progress in implementing European law, the Swedish FM lashed out at the greek cypriots blaming them for failed peace talks. All I know is that scandinavians are fanatical fundamentalist marxists. The cartoon controversy was an example when those two religions clash. As for giving a rats ass about real european culture they show their disdain for it by siding with the muslims everytime. I for one am not impressed with their so called anti-dhimmitude.
Posted by: pissedoffcanadian at November 20, 2006 4:43 PM
"All I know is that scandinavians are fanatical fundamentalist marxists. The cartoon controversy was an example when those two religions clash. As for giving a rats ass about real european culture they show their disdain for it by siding with the muslims everytime. I for one am not impressed with their so called anti-dhimmitude."
Posted by: pissedoffcanadian
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You make good points though. Swedes are too damned naive when it comes to religion. They have this ridiculous mentality that all religions are the same and Christianity is just as dangerous as Islam (you know, that stupid Rosie O'Donnell mentality).
I can't speak for Danes however because I don't live there, but it wouldn't surprise me if they're exactly the same.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 20, 2006 4:49 PM
My hope is that there will a natural point where the people stand up and say, "Enough of this. Get out." That is why I will be paying extra attention to French elections this year...I think it is in early 2007. In the last election, La Pen got 18.5% of the vote in the second round. That will probably go up, because of those ridiculous riots last year, and all of the violence that has continued to happen, ie. 20 police officers injured daily. Here's hoping they squeek a 50.1%, but I think it will be more like 35-43%.
Time will tell. I sure as hell hope that if France falls, that people wake the **** up.
Posted by: TheVoiceofTruth at November 20, 2006 4:49 PM
Alarmed Pig Farmer:
I cannot speak for Ralf Pittelkow, but I suspect that the use of "islamism" as opposed to islam is a fig leaf to avoid accusations of demonizing the plain-vanilla Mohammedan. Distinguishing between the belief system and the slaves of it is an exercise in sophistication that even the supposedly bright sometimes fail. Thus, an MP from the PM's party Venstre is on the receiving end of a libel suit from a DPP MP whom she incorrectly quoted for claiming that Muslims are a plague over Europe.
Of course, for some, rather than a fig leaf it may be the last straw of the "tiny minority" myth that they cling to.
Posted by: anti-uffe at November 20, 2006 4:53 PM
"Islamism is an extreme right wing form of fundamentalism that is indistinguishable from either Christian fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism or Hindu fundamentalism as far as religion is concerned.
Maggie4Life"
I think this is completely wrong. Sure many conflicts in history have arisen through religious differences, but none of the religions you mention have given birth to the cult of the homicide bomber. Sure,,,some of them could bore you to death, but that's about it, and you still have the choice to NOT listen to them.
Islam lauds death over life - this is the bottom line for me.This is where is fails the "real religion" test dismally.
However, you are right that it has a huge political component, but then again other religions can also be influential politically.
I agree with everyone who says it is worse than Nazism because Nazism was so much more contained and ultimately controllable. There are laws against it in some places.
So far there are none against islam. It is something that should be well considered for the sake of a country's national identity and security.
Posted by: Gramfan at November 20, 2006 4:53 PM
"Je combats l'islam politique, pas la religion musulmane." -- Philippe de Villiers.
Sigh. How much longer must we suffer 'close but no cigar'?
http://www.pourlafrance.fr/revuedepresse_detail.php?id_inter=120
Posted by: remote_control at November 20, 2006 4:58 PM
"Islamism is an extreme right wing form of fundamentalism that is indistinguishable from either Christian fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism or Hindu fundamentalism as far as religion is concerned." -- Maggie4Life
I think Maggie needs to get her prescription renewed for her glasses, if she can't distinguish beheaded girls from annoying pamphlets.
Posted by: remote_control at November 20, 2006 5:00 PM
It at last is starting to happen. The left wing is starting to turn on the muslims. The truth is that the liberials and Muslims have no shared values. Liberials want no marriage and free sex. They like art and painting and making their little crafts for art shows. They should be for womens rights and were at one time for science. Maybe they have at last awaken from their PC dreamworld. The fact is Islam goes counter to everything they stand for which is not much these days but still enough to cause this conflict. The only thing holding the libs back was their pc crap and their self hate. Alas PCs and self hate don't out do self preservation. Libs don't think there is a afterlife. They have no where to go. So they better start fighting if they don't want their heads removed by jihadies.
The cool thing is when euros go wild they go wild. Islam will either take Europe over in 50 years or there won't be muslims in europe in 50 years. I tend to agree with the second.
Posted by: greatcometof1577
at November 20, 2006 5:30 PM
This link from a posting above is excellent:
http://www.vdare.com/sailer/051127_buyout.htm
However: The buyout scheme was tried in Germany more than a decade ago and it failed,
-of course!
Germany offered the Mohammedan 'guestworkers' their pension entitlements and topped them up, in some cases doubled and tripled them, some of them (Turks mostly) went back to Turkey for an extended holiday, but in nearly all cases they returned, often with more family members than before: The welfare system is just too easy to be rorted and the Mohammedans just can't resist it...
As for Denmark, as far as I know, Abu Laban, the whining mullah who instigated the cartoon-riots, has not been evicted, neither has he been taken to court. Neither do I know of any other Mohammedan agitators or subversives who were evicted or dragged through the courts for their activities.
Denmark is petrified about losing trade with the Mohammedan 'world'- which impacted severly on their cookie, milk & butter exporters...
Shortsighted? Of course, but who is not? The French are worse and the British much, much worse. Other EU-countries are no better. So far we have NO politicians or political parties who openly take on the Islamic invasion. All that left/right crap is of course just that: Crap! But it can no longer be denied that in those countries that have given Mohammedans the vote the socialists are the ones who prostitute themselves far more than the conservatives in order to get the Islamic vote, which always comes in a block...
10 more years, perhaps a thousand more terrorist attacks, burning churches and many 'honor' killings will bring about civil strive and mass evictions, but why does it have to happen first?
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at November 20, 2006 5:32 PM
pissedoffcanadian wrote: "...All I know is that scandinavians are fanatical fundamentalist marxists. The cartoon controversy was an example when those two religions clash. As for giving a rats ass about real european culture they show their disdain for it by siding with the muslims everytime..."
Hahaha! If ignorance is bliss, you must be living in heaven...
Scandinavians aren't "fanatical fundamentalist marxists". The Scandinavian countries are some of the richest and most prosperous countries in the world. If we had been marxists we would have had living standards like the Ucraine or Albania right now - we don't. For my intire lifetime, the political parties representing true marxism on the far left have barely managed to get a few percent of the votes during general elections. I'd say roughly 5% of the votes go to partys with such views.
So perhaps you have a different definition of marxism than the one I have. What's characteristic about the scandinavian countries is a remarkable ability to adapt ideas from the outside world and turn them into something useful. We usually never adapt ideas coming from the outside world without altering them to fit our own societies. The kind of abstract ideologies that claim to have perfect and everlasting solutions the everything, like marxism, nazism, islamism ect. have only attracted a minority. We have always been very flexible in our way of thinking and administrating our societies. Perhaps this is a bit difficult to understand if you do not have a scandinavian background. Theres not one basic filosofy behind the scandinavian model, rather it's a mix of our own ideas and influences from other parts of the world, changed to fit our mentality.
As far as Denmark is concerned, we havent had anything but bad press in the muslim world for quite some time now and that is because we don't like them and they don't like us.
Posted by: seville844 at November 20, 2006 5:32 PM
What nobody seems to get is Euros can turn on a dime. One day they love you...the next they hate you. We Americans have witnessed this wild mood swings. When it happens don't be suprised to see the Euros go wild. I mean within 10 years Europe could go nationalist on us. This will be good becuase they will rid themselves of the muslims. The only down side is the last two times they went nationalist we had WWI & WWII. Oh well there is a price for everything.
Posted by: greatcometof1577 at November 20, 2006 5:38 PM
German Town Fights Against New Mosque
Posted by: ummahnewslinks at November 20, 2006 5:41 PM
Wow! Just Wow! Perhaps in a few years, Denmark will be rid of Moslem inflitrators; could Germany, Norway, Holland and England be in line as well?
Posted by: Seymour Paine at November 20, 2006 5:53 PM
Sweden:
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/11/were-on-our-way-to-hell.html
at November 20, 2006 6:37 PM
So when foreigners storm in, try to suppress freedom, impose their laws, commit crimes at an alarming rate, use terrorism, tell you they will soon be your masters, don't contribute, don't assimilate, and sponge off the welfare system, it can lead to some negative stereotyping?
Wow. Who knew?
Posted by: Beagle at November 20, 2006 6:52 PM
The northern people of Europe (the Dutch, the Flemish, the Germans and the Scandinavians) will overcome Islam and the multicultural ideal and will announce its downfall.
Posted by: DrWolffenstein at November 20, 2006 6:56 PM
Stopping immigration doesn`t resolve anything , if
immigrants have more children than the indigenous
population they will soon catch up and be the
majority.
Repatriation/deportation is required.
Posted by: aladdinsane57
Stopping immigration is a damn good start though. Repatriation is the logical next step. Rome wasn't built in a day.
And curtailing payments and services to these people is also a very good idea. Make our lands less attractive to them.
our "rightist" parties need to face up to their anti-Semitism so they can purge themselves of it and disown it for the irrational nonsense that it is. Only then can these parties serve as the vehicles of liberation which we so desperately need for Europe and the West.
None of the present-day political parties in Germany for example are set up to address the islamic problem. They'd sooner denounce us and legislate against their own countrymen than to be the first to face and then have to act upon some very uncomfortable truths.
Thank you, Denmark for your coutageous first baby steps toward our common liberation from this curse! Let us celebrate this day! SKØL!!!
Posted by: germaninamerica at November 20, 2006 7:50 PM
seville844 writes:
"As far as Denmark is concerned, we havent had anything but bad press in the muslim world for quite some time now and that is because we don't like them and they don't like us."
When you put it like that, it's hard not to love Denmark! We'll start buying more Danish cheeses.
sheik yer'mami writes:
"However: The buyout scheme was tried in Germany more than a decade ago and it failed,
-of course!"
Any experience with failed attempts should certainly be considered. The most important
fix to any scheme is that Muslim immigration
should be forbidden, so the door should be
one way. As seville844 wrote, it would be best
to avoid bloodshed in Denmark, where it is
still possible.
Denmark (and Danes) also have the right idea by
ridiculing Mohammad and Islam. If any Muslim wants to stay, they should be prepared to be
the butt of nasty jokes. Denmark is far ahead of the U.S. in that regard, but I'm detecting more
and more disgust with Islam lately so we may catch up.
at November 20, 2006 7:54 PM
As for Denmark, as far as I know, Abu Laban, the whining mullah who instigated the cartoon-riots, has not been evicted, neither has he been taken to court. Neither do I know of any other Mohammedan agitators or subversives who were evicted or dragged through the courts for their activities.
Denmark is petrified about losing trade with the Mohammedan 'world'- which impacted severly on their cookie, milk & butter exporters...
Is it possible that rogue citizens with military training might decide to... I better stop now.
I love how the NPR piece slickly sneaks in their little Xenophibia dig. The Xenophobes are those moving into our lands so unimpeded only to sponge off our social nets - which were created off the sweat of our labor. Let npr be reminded of that fact please.
Posted by: germaninamerica at November 20, 2006 8:16 PM
The introduction to the piece was a disgrace too: the commentator set up the broadcast with the comment that the story looks as "Europe's move to the right." It was infuriating. Britain - for example - has a long history of anti-fascist activity, and not just against Hitler but since then. Resisting islamists is not a "right wing" notion, it is an act of defence of human rights. Very poor telling of what could have been a good story.
Posted by: Obelisk1 at November 20, 2006 9:03 PM
From Yahoo dictionary -
Xenophobia: A person unduly fearful or contemptuous of that which is foreign, especially of strangers or foreign peoples.
NPR would use one of those -phobia words to denigrate people who are justifiably fearful.
at November 20, 2006 9:10 PM
Coincidentally, I have my "We are all Danes now" tee shirt on today. I have also read that the Danes have also started some other solutions to the Islamic problem like cutting welfare benefits and requiring thlearning the Danish language in a certain period of time in order to become a Danish citizen.
There should be a definite poltical process that assures the Dane's that their economic loss in dealing with the Islamists would be absorbed by Western nations. Myself, I am in search of anything imported from Denmark in the supermarket.
Posted by: Briars
at November 20, 2006 10:12 PM
"Islamism is an extreme right wing form of fundamentalism that is indistinguishable from either Christian fundamentalism...."
Maggie, I am a Christian who believes in the fundamentals of his faith. I am therefore a "Christian fundamentalist". What have I done to you today to be compared to the jihadists?
"START HAVING BABIES TOO. There's no point in saving your country if you don't have any children to save it for."
Bloody good idea Atheling. This should be a slogan on Danish T-shirts "Gore Elske, not Jihad"
Make Love, Not Jihad.
Posted by: Ozi_bloke at November 20, 2006 10:30 PM
A more fitting poem for these times I cannot find: Hooray for Denmark.
Dane-geld
(A.D. 980-1016)
Rudyard Kipling
IT IS always a temptation to an armed and agile nation,
To call upon a neighbour and to say:—
“We invaded you last night—we are quite prepared to fight,
Unless you pay us cash to go away.”
And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
And the people who ask it explain
That you’ve only to pay ’em the Dane-geld
And then you’ll get rid of the Dane!
It is always a temptation to a rich and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say:—
“Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
We will therefore pay you cash to go away.”
And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we’ve proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.
It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray,
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say:—
“We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that plays it is lost!”
at November 20, 2006 10:47 PM
It's not inevitable that the current interlopers in Denmark will take over, even if their immigration is stopped. They still rely on the Infidels to provide them their food, their shelter, their clothing, their prenatal care, their maternity care, their postnatal care, etc, do they not? What happens if the host simply shucks off the parasite?
I have always respected the Danes for protecting their Jewish population from the hitler's nazis, and I like their chances against hitler's predecessors / successors.
Posted by: Infidel33 at November 20, 2006 11:06 PM
Maggie4life
Your first paragraph tells me you don't know anything about Islam from the primary sources. Simply search "Qur'an." You'll find the MSAUSC website. Read Sura Nine first because to many Muslims it abrogates all the Meccan suras. Move on to the ahadith on jihad. Check into the Sunnah.
I used to think like you. I was very wrong.
When Christians wanted to imitate the life of Jesus they invented monastic orders. When Muslims decided to imitate the life of Mohammed they waged wars of conquest, and razzias for slaves and booty.
I could list differences all day long. You just need to read before you write.
Posted by: Beagle at November 21, 2006 12:18 AM
As I drove to work this morning, I enjoyed listening to "Danes Anti-Immigrant Backlash Marks Radical Shift" by Sylvia Poggioli for NPR. It was an enlightening segment that highlights the reality of life today in Denmark.
Buy Danish:
http://buydanish.home.comcast.net/products.htm
at November 21, 2006 12:46 AM
EliasAlucard: "To everyone here thinking that Europe is doomed, you have to remember that Europe has saved itself from Islam in the past. Spain was conquered by the Muslims (Al-Andalus) and the Christians managed to take it back in the end.
So there's still hope left."
Except for one fundamental difference. Europe is no longer Christian. Christianity defeated Islam during the Crusades because they had the will, the moral courage, and the confidence of their faith to support them, not to mention the grace of God.
Now, without all that, how can Europe save itself? It is atheistic, has no civilizational confidence, and no will or moral courage, except for occasional glimmers we see, as in this post. It is a shadow of what it once was.
Europe needs to fall on her knees and embrace her Christian heritage and regain confidence in her greatness in order to defeat Islam. When there is no will, there is no victory. Never.
Posted by: atheling at November 21, 2006 12:50 AM
The spanish waited centuries to get rid of the Muslims.But they did get rid of them totally. It will not be that long in Europe when another Ferdinand & Isabella as in 1492 would arise in all the western countries and will get rid of the Muslims. Otherwise Europe is finished.
Posted by: faqi at November 21, 2006 1:02 AM
If the rest of Europe's left can follow the Danish left, the chances of saving Europe increase tremendously. Somewhat as many Americans would trust only an anti-communist like Nixon to open trade with Red China, many Europeans will trust only the social democrats and leftists to stop the excesses of multiculturalism and do what it takes to save Europe from Islam.
It is the left that most needs convincing to join the struggle against Islam, and now the Danish left will be in a position to help spread the new cultural "meme" to the rest of Europe. It sometimes requires a leftie to get through to another leftie.
Those who push a racial approach, like Le Pen, are probably our worst enemies, except for Islam itself.
Supporting the racialists (like Le Pen), merely because many of them oppose Islam, makes no more sense than supporting Nazis merely because they fought the Soviets. The racialists and Islam are cousins somewhat in the way that Stalinism and Nazism were cousins. Sometimes, it's true, one must have an evil ally (as when the U.S. accepted the mega-democidal Stalin as an ally against the Nazis) but it's important to at least know you are playing with the devil if that's what you are doing. And that is what you are doing if you ally with the racialists against Islam. The racialists tend to be as anti-freedom in their politics as Islam is.
And the racialist approach will certainly never convince European social democrats to oppose Islam. Like it or not, if the social democrats (who dominate Europe) are not convinced to oppose Islam, Islam's victory in Europe will be much easier, perhaps assured. That is why the Danish left's resistance to Islam is hopeful: they may convince other European leftists, where no one else could.
Posted by: traeh at November 21, 2006 1:10 AM
atheling
Christianity defeated Islam during the Crusades...
Christianity lost. The Byzantine Empire fell after that. Constantinope is Istanbul. Squabbling between the Orthodox and Catholics had much to do with the ultimate failure. Killing Jews didn't advance the cause. Wasting time on Catholic "heretics" of the Langudoc, instead of the Outremer, absorbed valuable Frankish manpower. Being good Christians resulted in Saracen massacres in churches instead of on the battlefield.
Islam suffers no such lack of direction or unity and never gives up a sliver of land, however long it takes, however many lives it costs.
We're going to need a better model than the Crusades.
at November 21, 2006 1:36 AM
atheling said:
Except for one fundamental difference. Europe is no longer Christian.
Yes and no. Western culture and practice has been formed by Christianity to such an extent that Europeans are often Christians without knowing it. Because they often don't know what they are, and that they are something in a way specific, Europeans -- and many Americans -- often assume that those from other cultures feel, think and see just as Americans and Europeans do. (And of course there is frequently a fair amount of overlap between different cultures.)
Christianity, during the course of two millennia, has slowly inculcated various forms of awareness that would not be present otherwise, and has made visible aspects of the world that would otherwise be invisible. Piaget, in his own field (cognitive development), tested for and described the unfolding of structures of awareness in growing children. Those structures as he described them are by their nature invisible. Now what if Christianity has inculcated some of the inner structures that develop in human beings, some of those invisible, spiritual organs of consciousness, or a part of the overall dynamism and direction of those organs? In that case Europeans would be invisibly Christians (more precisely, Judeo-Christian-Greek-Roman) but might have forgotten, through the course of history, that "Christian" is the European's middle name, so to speak. Europe has perhaps forgotten her name and where she came from, but that doesn't mean she is no longer herself. And she might remember. Study the ancient world, and ancient Greek and Roman culture, and what the Christians introduced into them, and you will see that Christianity brought some very new and remarkably evolutionary forms of awareness into the world.
All that said, you may be right that Europeans, not knowing with sufficient consciousness who they are, will lack the will to fight for their own unique humanity, and will let totalitarian Islam (which tends to inculcate a certain paralysis of the organs of consciousness) take over.
Posted by: traeh at November 21, 2006 2:06 AM
traeh, I agree. In a nutshell, I would say that the Christian civilization gave birth to the modern secular West. It was in many ways a painful birth, with lots of blood; but what births aren't?
Posted by: remote_control at November 21, 2006 3:53 AM
Nassem! Nassem! Where art thou?
Doest thou recall my post predicting the backlash? And now here it is... internments, suspicions, deportings... and its only just starting, becoming more prevalent.
The mood is changing and Europe's tolerance is now starting to wear a little thin... there may yet be hope...
at November 21, 2006 4:17 AM
"Except for one fundamental difference. Europe is no longer Christian. Christianity defeated Islam during the Crusades because they had the will, the moral courage, and the confidence of their faith to support them, not to mention the grace of God.
Now, without all that, how can Europe save itself? It is atheistic, has no civilizational confidence, and no will or moral courage, except for occasional glimmers we see, as in this post. It is a shadow of what it once was.
Europe needs to fall on her knees and embrace her Christian heritage and regain confidence in her greatness in order to defeat Islam. When there is no will, there is no victory. Never."
Posted by: atheling at November 21, 2006 12:50 AM
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Good point, and you're right: Europe is not itself without Christianity. Hell, if Europe was still a Christian continent, Islam wouldn't even exist here and we'd have no problems with terrorism. Personally, I blame "secular humanism" and the leftists.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 21, 2006 5:26 AM
Assalamau Laikum all,
Somebody wrote “To all the Muslims who happen to read this. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The umma awaits you and all the sharia you crave. I just hope you enjoy eating sand”.
Well this is sad…for there is much work to be done for peace around the world…and for this you need the correct model…or it’s not going to work. I personally favour the wuslim as the role model for humanity across the globe…an excellent mix of sharia and common law for each respective country.
I know that (currently) the muslim consumes a large part of the welfare available is the host country…but this is an essential ingredient for the formation of the wuslim…please you mustn’t get upset by donating a little more for this miraculous transformation. We bring to you the miracle of the Quaran in one hand and Hadith in the other….freedom for womens…e.g. from slutty porn that the Danes are well known for.
You mustn’t allow your emotions to run…you maybe able to repatriate temporary workers …but you will not be able to remove citizens of that country…for example…who will say ..”Yes, we’ll have muslims who are Danish/German/French citizens”….you know…this is like trying to dump your “problems” on another sovereign country…It’s not gonna happen.
No, if you choose to ignore the wuslim model, the more realistic model is this.
As the indigenous population of the said country (AIG’s Germany say..) shrinks and muslims become the majority….the indigenous peoples will move house …and try to live closer to each other . They will attempt to create their own little city within each city...(kafur city ….like so many ghettos if you will). Small Kafur cities within larger cities will spring up everywhere…. However in time they will become smaller and smaller ….in desperation you may attempt to start to WALL these cities, like Berlin for example…while attempting to impose their own rules and regulations…
This may work for a while but the muslim government of the day will rightly ask for understanding and integration of the minority Kafur into this wonderful mix of sharia and common law…. After all governments don’t really like ghettos …we need cities which are PC multiculturalist…(Islamic style, if you will) a bit like my beloved Pakistan is today. This will have vibrant cities full of mosques, loud calls to prayer, sheesh kebab stalls, halal butchers , Islamic banks …..and wait for it…..Wuslims…lots and lots and lots of wuslims…infront of you , behind you , your neighbour, your friend…your daughter’s boyfriend….I mean it’s gonna be a blast.
My advice to the dwellers of Kafur city…when in Rome…do like the Romans….only be aware that even in Rome (and stillfedup... this is for you)inshallah you will have a mix of common law and Sharia
…..Happy integrating .
at November 21, 2006 7:05 AM
to remote_control:
Somehow I wouldn't quite have guessed you'd credit Christianity with the birth of the modern secular West, but then I'm not very surprised, either. So we agree on that aspect of Christianity. And by the way, I think maybe I've come to understand, a bit better than I did before, your calls for a cigar rather than an asymptote. Not that I'm now completely against asymptotes in every situation. Just that I understand the value of dispensing with asymptotes better than I understood it before.
True, births have been bloody from time immemorial. Didn't the Egyptians sometimes speak of the redness of dawn as the bloody birth of the sun god?
Posted by: traeh at November 21, 2006 7:23 AM
Internment camps for muslim citizens.
It worked with the Japanese.
Posted by: CGW at November 21, 2006 7:39 AM
And birth control chemicals in the water.
Think we can't do it?
Watch and see.
Posted by: CGW at November 21, 2006 7:53 AM
Europa is the mother who eats her own children, because she can't feed them all. It's a continent of mass graves, from as far back as 4000 BC until as recently as 1995. Over night, a flock of harmless Euro-faggots can transform into vicious killers. My grandfather's ghost told me that will happen again, sooner than anyone imagines.
Posted by: ElderlyZionist at November 21, 2006 8:13 AM
qUOTE from the article:
"We compare Islamism to Nazism and communism because they are all three of them a totalitarian ideology," says Karen Jespersen,
like I and others am known to say NAZISM = ISLAM !!!
What we all on here know is right on the mark (hence my handle referring to WWII). This fight is LIKE THAT --it will be a fight against a totoalitarian regieme (Islam) that will force the free world nations and people (THE ALLIES) to fight to keep that freedom.
Freedom is not free.
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 21, 2006 10:01 AM
THE ALLIES are slowly waking up from Europe to the US from Canada to Australia. more to come.
We will need an army of Robert Spencers in the upcoming years and I believe we will get it soon
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 21, 2006 10:06 AM
"muslim citizens" ...... a fine oxymoron.
Posted by: Infidel33 at November 21, 2006 10:29 AM
regarding the comment that Christian and other fundamentalists are like Islamic fundamentalists except that Islam is political.
Actually to compare Christian and Jewish and other fundamentalists and say they are the same EXCEPT that Islam is Political is absoulutely wrong.
Because Islam loves to KILL people as a gurantee to heaven commands for muslims of all time (see Quran/hadith) to KILL CHRISTIANS JEWS AND ALL NONBELIEVERS IN ALLAH. so please dont say the are the same but only that islam is political. This is not only not true it reveals a hatred of normal spiritualty that has nothing to do with the present discussion on these threads at jiwadwatch.com. For example robert spencer is Roman Catholic --do you think that being a good (ie believing in the fundamentals of the faith) if Catholicsm is in ANY WAY simliar to Islam (political ambitions of Islam aside)? You know its not. And neither is Evangelical American Christianity or Orthodox Judaism in Israel (remember they are trying to stay ALIVE so they have to fight).
here is an interesting quote that says it all:
from:
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/excuses.htm
You get the picture: Sure, Muslim fundamentalists can be pretty extreme, but what about all our Christian fundamentalists? Unfortunately, for the old moral equivalence to hold up, the Christians really need to get off their fundamentalist butts and start killing more people. At the moment, the brilliantly versatile Muslim fundamentalists are gunning down Maryland schoolkids and bus drivers, hijacking Moscow musicals, self-detonating in Israeli pizza parlours, blowing up French oil tankers in Yemen, and slaughtering nightclubbers in Bali, while Christian fundamentalists are, er, sounding extremely strident in their calls for the return of prayer in school.
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 21, 2006 10:47 AM
Naseem
You failed in one point. Muslims are not as smart as us non-muslims. You see our people can build our own weapons. You have always outnumbered us in battle but for the most part the last 500 years has been one ass kicking after another. Look at little Israel. So small yet you can't get rid of it? Why? Becuase they are smarter then you. In the end naseem if you give a muslim enough rope he or she will hang themselves before we in the west will. As dumb as we non-muslims are with our PC nonsense and self hate the muslims are even dumber becuase they tell everyone they are going to make war and kill. Not very bright to tell people this before you are ready.
Also when you say "but you will not be able to remove citizens of that country"....don't be so sure Naseem. Anything is possible in war.
In the end Naseem god is on our side not Islam. Why? Islam is a rotten tree. Rotten trees produce no good fruit. Tell me Naseem what have muslims given the world? What great advancement? Name me one Naseem.....
at November 21, 2006 11:15 AM
sheik yer'mami says,
"The French are worse and the British much, much worse. Other EU-countries are no better. So far we have NO politicians or political parties who openly take on the Islamic invasion."
Not correct. Here in Britain we have the British National Party, fast becoming a mainstream political party due in no small measure to its opposition to the Islamification of this nation.
The party leader was recently aquitted at Leeds Crown Court of race-hate charges by a unaminous verdict of 'twelve good men and true'. The party now regularly achieves figures such as 26-28% of the vote in local elections. Forget 'Nazis', 'racists', 'extreme far-right' and other silly name-calling by the media and their allies. Ordinary decent people want change.
at November 21, 2006 11:42 AM
"My advice to the dwellers of Kafur city…when in Rome…do like the Romans….only be aware that even in Rome (and stillfedup... this is for you)inshallah you will have a mix of common law and Sharia"
whoring cow, Rome is not my town but you have to know that Rome is still a die hard mixture of far left and far right.
Can't wait for muslimahs like yourself to fall in the hands of those gentlemen.
Have you read what the fascist used to do with OIL? LOL, google it.
Posted by: StillFedUp at November 21, 2006 2:23 PM
Why, when this whole anti-islam is nothing to do with Left or Right, do I always see Pym Fortuyn referred to as an extreme right winger. He was a gay socialist! Posted by: Celsius
I saw an interesting movie on Cinemundo (Link TV) which is something no ditto head would have, since morons rely solely on cable TV (which is totally, and I mean totally right wing conservative).
The movie is "The 6th of May" it was about the murder of Pym Fortuyn and it was Directed by Theo Van Gogh.. link to it Here interesting that even Theo van Gogh (may he R.I.P.) started the movie by referring to Pym Fortuyn as right wing.
Altogether a strange movie, whose plot was that Pym Was killed by a conspiracy from the Corporate Elite, like the Bilderbergers, who used Turks and a Greenie fanatic as hit men and accomplices, the final result was that the Netherlands backed out of the Eurofighter contract, and opted in to buy F-16's.
Posted by: Nariz at November 21, 2006 6:50 PM
Ah heck for those who don't follow links, here's a synopsis of the Theo Van Gogh movie the 6th of May from the above link
Synopsis The real-life murder of an idiosyncratic Dutch politician inspired this docudrama, which imagines a possible scenario behind the killing. Jim De Booy (Thijs Römer) is a new photographer who is on assignment, taking pictures of a popular television actress during an appearance at a radio station, when Pim Fortuyn, a controversial right-wing political figure, is shot to death shortly after finishing an interview at the same studio. When Jim develops the pictures, he discovers he accidentally caught the assassin on film, and he begins investigating the crime. Jim finds an ally in his research in Ayse (Tara Elders), who was once involved with the animal rights group that has claimed responsibility for the killing. However, while most people believe the killing was the irrational act of leftist fanatics, Ayse and her beau, Erdogan (Cahit Olmez), have another take to tell -- it seems members of the Dutch intelligence community had infiltrated the group and were pressuring the animal rights activists to attack Fortuyn. Could this have had anything to do with Fortuyn's opposition to a bill that would finance the purchase of a new fleet of fighter jets backed by powerful American business interests? 06/05: The Sixth of May was the final feature film for writer and director Theo Van Gogh. In a strange coincidence, Van Gogh was shot to death (as well as stabbed) in the fall of 2004 by a Muslim extremist who was offended by a film he made for television about the treatment of women in the Islamic community. ~ Mark Deming, All Movie GuidePosted by: Nariz
at November 21, 2006 6:52 PM
"Could this have had anything to do with Fortuyn's opposition to a bill that would finance the purchase of a new fleet of fighter jets backed by powerful American business interests?"
Ah, another conspiracy theory that shifts all the blame for terrorism onto Amerika.
Posted by: remote_control at November 21, 2006 7:35 PM
We might all have to move to Denmark when the flag of islam flies over the Whitehouse.
Posted by: August22
The flag of islam flies over the White House now. George "I don't have a clue" Bush Condadhimmi Rice,and others.I can't believe these dumbasses!
Posted by: solomonpal at November 21, 2006 10:11 PM
lol americaningermany, that's so true. It's the same here in Sweden every time they're confronted and asked what they've done for society, and they respond "WE GAVE YOU KEBAB!"
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 22, 2006 6:05 AM
I hope in addition to this story, NPR gets smart and invites Steve Emerson to speak again on its news programs. Three years ago, I was watching Fox News and Emerson said that NPR has not asked him to speak on its news programs since 1998. This is very dangerous on NPR's part because Mr. Emerson has much information about Islamic Terrorists in America that NPR listeners need to hear. NPR should realize that even though itmay disagree with Emerson's views, it should not put its liberal bias ahead of the safety of its listeners.put their
Posted by: Christian at November 22, 2006 9:15 AM
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