How does this Nobel organization get its funding? I wonder what can be done to undermine them for allowing the cat to play at the ceremony.

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 28, 2006 3:18 AM

amazing ...yusaf is pure scum ...

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 28, 2006 3:42 AM

Birds of a feather. Nobel people who awarded the "peace" prize to Arafat (cursed be his memory) and to the Israeli sell-out Shimon Peres.

I do not listen to Cat Stevens music nor do I sing the Horst Wessel Lied. Both have some charm. We all must make some sacrifices.

Posted by: unicorns62000 at November 28, 2006 3:54 AM

Oh, and I forgot. I will not listen to the Nobel Peace Prize Concert on December 11, 2006. The American celebrities (plus the arch-idiot Jimmy Carter) are all on my list (The list is on toilet paper).

Posted by: unicorns62000 at November 28, 2006 4:01 AM

Why was I ever a fan of Lionel Ritchie? Hopefully, Nicole has more brains.

Hello!

Posted by: Infidel Pride at November 28, 2006 4:08 AM

Cat Stevens may have been a good singer but unfortunately is supporting terrorism me that rather pirate is music off of line wire the pay one dime for music that he might get royalties from there they can be used is to support terrorist groups I'm not surprised he was denied entrance to the USA . Now if only we could get some of the mullahsthey use their mosques in the USA to preach jihad against the USA Canada and the UK. But alas most of them seem to come from Saudi Arabia which is our biggest oil supplier and with the president who appears to in the pocket of big oil nothing is going to happen in till Bush leaves office in two years I just hope we don't see Hillary with the former president she'd married to as first man that would be a disaster

Posted by: islamakapigeaters at November 28, 2006 4:27 AM

Sending a grim message. I like the title. It has a refreshing burst of honesty to it.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at November 28, 2006 5:53 AM

Religious Tolerance

Posted by: Voyager at November 28, 2006 6:56 AM

Here is a mug shot

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2006/10/wanker.html

New York, NY, October 11, 2006: The American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP) honored the top British writer and publisher members of the PRS at a special ceremony held at The Grosvenor House Hotel in London on Wednesday, October 11, 2006.

Yusuf Islam was named Songwriter of the Year for the second consecutive year and was recognized for his enduring classic “First Cut Is The Deepest.

Yusuf Islam is soon to release a Rick Nowels-produced album of new songs, his first in almost 30 years. The release will coincide with the 40 th anniversary of the first Cat Stevens record, I Love My Dog (Deram November 1966).

The mind boggles

Posted by: shiva at November 28, 2006 7:08 AM

ok,,so I am a little older than some of you guys,,,,,,,,,
I used to like this Cat,,eg, Peace Train.
Now all I can say is,,ICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bad enough the UN is bad,,now the Nobel Prize????

what hope is there?

Posted by: Gramfan at November 28, 2006 7:40 AM

Yusuf Islam is soon to release a Rick Nowels-produced album of new songs, his first in almost 30 years. The release will coincide with the 40 th anniversary of the first Cat Stevens record, I Love My Dog (Deram November 1966).

The mind boggles
Posted by: shiv

I wonder if he still loves his dog

Posted by: Dsinc at November 28, 2006 7:51 AM

Sharon Stone? Angelica Huston? Lionel Ritchie?

Can you say, "washed up?"

In the same way local politicians will milk the local mosque for votes (as happened recently in Michigan and Minnesota), artists and actors whose stars are fading will align themselves with any cause that will get them the most publicity. I shudder to think what other desperate former stars will crawl out of obscurity wearing Burqas.

Posted by: Clive at November 28, 2006 8:26 AM

How does this Nobel organization get its funding? I wonder what can be done to undermine them for allowing the cat to play at the ceremony.

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 28, 2006 03:18 AM

From an endowment many years ago by Alfred Nobel, who invented dynamite, I believe.

Ironically, the number of Nobel prizes awarded to Jews who account for less than 1% of the world's population vastly outstrips the number awarded to Muslims who constitute about 20% of the world's population.

Interesting to ponder also, is whether Mohammed Yunis's experiment with microloans came about because the existing, and presumably Sharia-compliant system did nothing to help develop the Bangladeshi economy, and most particularly to help its poorest citizens.

On the other hand, Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam's notion of "charity" is to give aid and comfort to Palestinian factions that cultivate suicide bombers, as a British journalist noted around the time that Stevens was hauled off that flight to the US.

Also something to digest with this honouring of Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam, is the continued persecution by the Bangladeshi government of Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhoury, the editor of the Weekly Blitz who is being tried for "sedition" for denoucing the demonization of Jews and Israel and attempting to travel to Israel on a Bangladeshi passport. For these acts, Shoaib Choudhury faces the death penalty.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at November 28, 2006 8:28 AM

Angelica Huston is said to make her extra-American money by demanding hundreds of thousands of dollars merely to show up at a French designer's defile [the unavailability of an accent aigu here does wonders for the meaning]. And she and many others in Hollywood get that kind of walking-around money. Perhaps she should consider pulling out of the Nobel ceremony so as to not to dignify either part of it: the Nobel Peace Prize, or the appearance of the death-to-Rushdie supporter Yusuf Islam, in arte (once upon a time) Cat Stevens.

And so should the others.

Posted by: Hugh at November 28, 2006 8:34 AM

Quote from LGF

For the new album, Atlantic Records was canny enough to remove the word “Islam” from his name; he’s simply Yusuf. And you’ll have to read pretty far down into the reviews to find anyone who knows—or cares—about his radical views.

Steven Georgiou was the third child of a Greek-Cypriot father (Stavros Georgiou) and a Swedish mother (Ingrid Wickman).Although his father was Greek Orthodox, Georgiou was sent to a Catholic school

When Stevens nearly drowned in an accident in Malibu in 1975, he reports having pleaded with God to save him. Stevens described the event in a VH1 interview some years later: "I suddenly held myself and I said, 'Oh God! If you save me, I'll work for you.'" The near-death experience intensified his long-held quest for spiritual truth; when his brother David gave him a copy of the Qur'an, Stevens began to find peace with himself and began his transition to Islam. He formally converted to the Islamic faith in 1977 and he legally changed his name to Yusuf Islam

On March 8 1989, while speaking in London's Regents Park Mosque, when asked by a Christian Science Monitor reporter how he would "cope with the idea of killing a writer for writing a book" he is reported to have replied:

In Islam there is a line between let's say freedom and the line which is then transgressed into immorality and irresponsibility and I think as far as this writer is concerned, unfortunately, he has been irresponsible with his freedom of speech. Salman Rushdie or indeed any writer who abuses the prophet, or indeed any prophet, under Islamic law, the sentence for that is actually death. It's got to be seen as a deterrent, so that other people should not commit the same mistake again

Posted by: shiva at November 28, 2006 8:44 AM

I never liked Cat Stevens anyway-when people blast music from the 1970's I always think of him as one of the reasons why. I like him even less under his new name, especially since he endorsed Satan Khomeini's fatwa against Rushdie. He, like those other Hollywood types mentioned, are a bunch of useful idiots. They should all move to cesspoolia.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 28, 2006 9:09 AM

Dsinc, I was wondering the same thing - does he still love his dog?

Regarding his latest, "First Cut Is The Deepest"; I wonder if that's the first blow on the neck...

I HATE that my favorite radio station, WFUV, (licensed to Fordham University,The Jesuit University of New York!)no less, plays his work now. Dhimmis!

Posted by: Vee at November 28, 2006 9:34 AM

I like some of his music... What puzzles me so is for someone who did sincerely care deeply about mutual cooperation and tolerance ( peace ) and a person who had such a spiritual side could somehow see Islam as a good thing. I suppose what it shows is that Cat Stevens wasn't as reflective and deep as I assumed by his work. Any deep reflection into the stagnant pool will show Islam for something other than it claims. At the very least, a study of it should raise contradictions and questions in a person's mind.

What that tells me is that Cat Stevens joined up without really doing an analysis on the system or that he is not that 'smart' or realistic. Maybe he was gullible and got pulled in too far. He can't pull out now. If he is half the reflective person needed to produce some of his older works... I'd guess he has his doubts now.

But I won't support him or his stuff anymore. It's a loss to be sure.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at November 28, 2006 10:25 AM

Just wondering how the Cat will be able to control himself in the presence of all that tempting raw meat at the concert...

Posted by: Liberty at November 28, 2006 10:36 AM

Allowing these craven, clueless Islamism-enabling Norwegian dhimmis to hand out the world's most exalted peace award is as ludicrous as allowing Vidkun Quisling to hand it out. In fact, it would have been more honest to let someone like Quisling make the selection and organize the entertainment. At least he made no bones about his fascist leanings. The Nobel Prize committee, on the other hand, claim to be all moral and righteous-like, meanwhile they're serving the interests of the world's villains.

Posted by: scaramouoche at November 28, 2006 10:38 AM

Ever since they gave the father of modern terrorism a peace prize I have thought of any Nobel as being less in value than the prize you can find in a box of Cracker Jacks.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 28, 2006 10:53 AM

Cat Stevens may have been a good singer but unfortunately is supporting terrorism i would rather pirate his music off of line wire than pay one dime for music that he might get royalties from there sale that he can use is to support terrorist groups I'm not surprised he was denied entrance to the USA . Now if only we could get some of the more radical mullahs deported they use their mosques in the USA to preach jihad against the USA Canada and the UK. But alas most of them seem to come from Saudi Arabia which is our biggest oil supplier and with the president who appears to in the pocket of big oil nothing is going to happen in till Bush leaves office in two years I just hope we don't see Hillary with the former president she'd married to as first man that would be a disaster(next time I better proofread sorry about the mistakes my first post)

Posted by: islamakapigeaters at November 28, 2006 11:38 AM

There is no sign of psychopathology as clear and undeniable as conversion to izlam.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 28, 2006 11:40 AM

LADIES AND GENTLEMAN...
YUSUF ISLAM:

I've been demoralized too many times
But now I realize, Ah ah, no more.
I'm gonna get me a gun
I'm gonna get me a gun
And all those people who put me down
You better get ready to run,
Cuz I'm gonna get me a gun

I know my destiny is like the sun
You see the best of me when I have got my gun
I'm gonna get me a gun
I'm gonna get me a gun
And all those people who put me down
You better get ready to run,
Cuz I'm gonna get me a gun

So you think you can push me around
And make me run
Well I'm gonna tell you now
I'm gonna get me a gun
I'm gonna get me a gun
And all those people who put me down
You better get ready to run,
Cuz I'm gonna get me a gun

Gonna get me a gun...

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 28, 2006 11:49 AM

He's a has-been, and a jackass. Why did he abandon his career for decades? Because his imam told him to? Now, suddenly, why is it ok for him to sing again? What a total load!

Posted by: MP at November 28, 2006 12:24 PM

LADIES AND GENTLEMAN...
YUSUF ISLAM:

I've been demoralized too many times
But now I realize, Ah ah, no more.
I'm gonna get me a gun
I'm gonna get me a gun
And all those people who put me down
You better get ready to run,
Cuz I'm gonna get me a gun

I know my destiny is like the sun
You see the best of me when I have got my gun
I'm gonna get me a gun
I'm gonna get me a gun
And all those people who put me down
You better get ready to run,
Cuz I'm gonna get me a gun

So you think you can push me around
And make me run
Well I'm gonna tell you now
I'm gonna get me a gun
I'm gonna get me a gun
And all those people who put me down
You better get ready to run,
Cuz I'm gonna get me a gun

Gonna get me a gun...

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 28, 2006 11:49 AM

Awww, looks like Cat's peace train has derailed.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 28, 2006 12:38 PM

"Yusuf Islam is soon to release a Rick Nowels-produced album of new songs, his first in almost 30 years."

I read somewhere that he had stopped writing songs because it was forbidden in Islam. Does this mean that he's starting to lose his committment or is it just that making some money may be more important than Allah?

Posted by: Provoslavni at November 28, 2006 12:41 PM

What an inconvenient coincidence that the inventor of dynamite's name was Alfred Nobel and that the award given in his name is called the Peace Prize. It gives the unfortunate impression that the prize has something to do with nobility and peace when in fact it has nothing to do with either thing.

Posted by: Daisytoo at November 28, 2006 12:45 PM

What an inconvenient coincidence that the inventor of dynamite's name was Alfred Nobel and that the award given in his name is called the Peace Prize. It gives the unfortunate impression that the prize has something to do with nobility and peace when in fact it has nothing to do with either thing.

Posted by: Daisytoo at November 28, 2006 12:45 PM

Looked at in this light I guess Arafat getting the peace prize makes sense.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 28, 2006 12:51 PM

Parody of "Father and Son"

It's now time to make a change,
Strap on the vest, do it slowly.
You're still young, that's your fault,
There's just one act you must do.
Make a bomb, strap it on,
72 virgins you will marry.
Look at me, I am old, but I'm Muslim.

I was once like you are now, and I know that it's not easy,
To be calm when you know you're gonna blow some kaffirs away.
Don't waste your time, don't think a lot,
Why, Islam is all you've got.
For Islam will be here tomorrow, but its victims will not.

Son
It's haram for me to cry, I keep all the Surahs I know inside,
It's hard, but Islam requires me to do it.
The Mullahs are right, so I agree, but it's not them to die but me.
Now here's my bomb and I know that I have to go away. I know I have to go.

It's Jihad I explain, and Islam demands some lives again.
It's always been the same, same old story.
From the moment I could talk I was ordered to obey.
Now there's a way and I know that I have to blow them all away.
----------------------

Parody of "Peace Train"

Now I've been happy lately, thinking about the violence to come
As I believe it should be, the jihad has begun

Oh I've been smiling lately, dreaming about the world under Islam
And I believe it could be, some day it's going to come

Cause out from the pit of darkness, rides the jihad train
Oh Jihad train take this country, make a Khalifat again

Oh jihad train killing kafirs
Ride on the jihad train
Come on jihad train
on jihad train heads are rollin'
Everyone dies on the jihad train

Get your bombs together, go bring your Quran too
Cause I'm suicide bombin', soon I'll get to kill a Jew

Now come and join the dying, we're not so far from you
Death is getting nearer, for every Christian and Hindu.

(repeat chorus)

Now I've been crying lately, thinking about the world as it is
We have to go on hating, can't let no freedom exist.

Cause out from the pit of darkness, rides the jihad train
Oh Jihad train take this country, make a Khalifat again...

Posted by: Provoslavni at November 28, 2006 1:10 PM

I do wish the Nobel Academy, which does recognize great human achievements in the sciences, would dissociate its name from what has become the "arabist's booby prize" of late.

Posted by: Infidel33 at November 28, 2006 1:52 PM

@ Provoslavni

BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO!

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 28, 2006 2:05 PM

As others have said, the Nobel Peace Prize is worthless since that terrorist slime Arafat got one.

To bad about Cat Stevens going nuts and converting to Islam, I liked a number of his songs. I still have some of his LPs I bought before his descent into the insanity of Islam in the 70s. But what's he doing back in music? I thought music was a no-no in Islam.

Posted by: Proud Infidel at November 28, 2006 2:27 PM

Ah Cat Stevens, one of the thousands of CATHOLIC converts to Islam, and they are legion, seems that virtually all converts to Islam were Catholic. Why would that be I ask. Asked it before, but never got an answer?

I do know the answer though..it can be seen in the response of John Walker Lindh, when asked "why he came to Afghanistan?" It is the purest of Islamic societies he said.

You see there is a lot of similiarity between Islam and Catholicism (ignoring the beheading and stoning stuff)..both are patriarchial to the extreme and doctrinairily so, both are misogynistic and diminish and denigrate the feminine (reducing it to a minor, submissive, child bearing supportive role), both are obsessed over sex and sexuality, both regulate and emphasize sex and sexuality.

I'm another Forum with a lot of Catholics and other Right Wing Christians, that are "pro Islam"
Because of it's rigidity of "traditional family values"... then again Ann Coulter has no problem at all making an alliance with muslims for the same reason..nor do a number of Jihad Watchers..for that matter.

Islam attracts Catholics, because when it comes to sexual repression and rigidity, to patriarchialism and patrimony it is more Catholic than Catholic.

A partial list of prominent former Catholics who are Muslims or Islamic apologists.

Tony Blair - Apologist
Cat Stevens
Adam Gadahn-Azzam the Amerike
Jose Padilla
John Walker Lindh
Todd (Ismail) Royer - now in prison
Hmmm. I Can't think of any atheists, Methodists, Presbyterians or Baptists becoming Muslims.

Posted by: Nariz at November 28, 2006 2:29 PM

Hardly surprising, coming from the same organization that awarded the HIV-infected pedophile, mass-murderer terrorist Yasser Arafat a Nobel Peace Prize. George Orwell himself could not envision such a grotesque institution.

Posted by: US_infidel at November 28, 2006 2:33 PM

Catholicism does a good job of dumbing down its adherents. All the statuary, all the saints make believers soft-headed, impressionable. It's such a circus act that when believers apostosize they throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 28, 2006 2:45 PM

Off topic news from France:

FRANCE: INTERVIEW - ISLAM ON AGENDA OF FIRST PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE OF ARAB ORIGIN

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks at November 28, 2006 2:46 PM

".. both are patriarchial to the extreme and doctrinairily so, both are misogynistic and diminish and denigrate the feminine "

Nariz, putting aside for the moment Mary, please offer one single Muslim theologian in the same intellectual class as Augustine, Aquinas, Teresa of Avila, or, for that matter, the current Pope Benedict. One will suffice .. what's that? There are no thinkers who support Reason or Objective Truth in Islam? Thought not. Only hysterical imams screaming superstitious and impotent hatred? Thought so.

By the way, your misogyny is blatant: "(reducing it to a minor, submissive, child bearing supportive role)," If this is what you think of female parenthood, may I recommend a conversion to Catholicism for you - it will give you a leg up socially, sexually, morally, spiritually, psychologically and philosophically .. not to mention intellectually. Bonus: if you were to enter a Catholic school with the elementary aged students, you would come out spelling like a champion.

Posted by: Daisytoo at November 28, 2006 3:22 PM

These people are hard to reach but Angelica
Huston's agent is William Morris. The CEO is Jim Wiatt who also serves as an agent, he may be hers, not sure. No email but 310-839-4462 is the FAX if you want to suggest a course correction.

Sharon Stone's publicity is handled by PMK-HBH
and her rep is Cindi Berger. cindi.berger@pmkhbh.com

PMK-HBH may well handle all the celebrities involved in this matter.

Posted by: Nick Danger at November 28, 2006 3:28 PM

Make that 310-859-4462 (where did I put those glasses?) and the website lists 310-859-4205
for the L.A. FAX no.

Posted by: Nick Danger at November 28, 2006 3:37 PM

nariz instead of babbling your communist ridden bullshit would you please waste your time reading other people's post?

"Steven Georgiou was the third child of a Greek-Cypriot father (Stavros Georgiou) and a Swedish mother (Ingrid Wickman).Although his father was Greek Orthodox, Georgiou was sent to a Catholic school"

Greek-Cypriot is not to home country of catholicism, his mother is probably lutheran.

Posted by: StillFedUp at November 28, 2006 3:45 PM

Well, I guess the Islamic prohibition against music, especially vocal music, is only for non-Muslims.

Posted by: Monkeywho at November 28, 2006 4:11 PM

You see there is a lot of similiarity between Islam and Catholicism (ignoring the beheading and stoning stuff)..both are patriarchial to the extreme and doctrinairily so, both are misogynistic and diminish and denigrate the feminine (reducing it to a minor, submissive, child bearing supportive role), both are obsessed over sex and sexuality, both regulate and emphasize sex and sexuality.

_______________________________________

In general agreement with Daisytoo's response.

Posted by: Monkeywho at November 28, 2006 4:14 PM

Hi Nariz:

Aren't Jack Chick's comics something?

BTW, I thought Adam Gadahn was originally Joosh. Could be mistaken on that, but that'd make two of us.

Posted by: Chatillon at November 28, 2006 4:42 PM

posted by USBEAST in othter thread! its muslim hate site just added an essay on jihadwatch cursing us (though they will be the ones cursed)"

Hey guys and Robert,

Off topic alert: Check this out: http://inshallahshaheed.wordpress.com/

It seems Robert has stepped someone's toes and they are responding in true Islamic fashion: with threats, quotations and rubbish.
Posted by: USBeast [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 28, 2006 04:56 PM

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 28, 2006 5:02 PM

Nariz

Tony Blair is Catholic?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at November 28, 2006 5:08 PM

This inshallahshaheed is long-winded but at last we have a Muslim speaking openly and honestly.

I do like his opening invective:
"It is only from your evil desires that you wish to propagate that which will hurt the Muslims; and I pray to Allah that he breaks your hands and poisons your tongue so that you may never propagate your lies again. And if it doesn’t happen in this life, then only by the will of Allah, I will be the one laughing at you from Paradise – enjoying its eternal pleasures - while your body is dragged through spikes that pierce deep within your body, and you are only given to drink foul smelling pus and boiling water – which only makes you vomit and burn your insides - and eat extremely sour and thorny fruits – where if it to be dropped in one of the oceans of this earth, all of the oceans and even the lands of the earth would be destroyed."

Why does this remind me of Klaus Kinski screaming at Werner Herzog in the Amazon?

Posted by: Nick Danger at November 28, 2006 5:31 PM

as a greek Cypriot i am ashamed that cat stevens is half greek Cypriot he really has let greek Cypriots down his a triator

i know this sounds really harsh but when he said the reason he converted to islam was becasue he nearly drowned in the sea and that allah saved him to help him find the truth it would have been better for him to have drowned then to become a muslim

Posted by: Greek Gurl at November 28, 2006 6:32 PM

email sent to Sharon Stone's publicist:

"Dear Ms. Berger,
It has come to my attention that on December 11 a Noble Peace Prize concert will be held in Oslo and your client Sharon Stone, will be a co-host.

Some of the other celebrities appearing there may also be represented by your agency. Invited to appear with Ms. Stone and the others is Mr. Yusuf Islam, once known as Cat Stevens. I want to suggest that Ms. Stone and the other celebrities withdraw from this event.

Yusuf has been denied entry to America and expelled from Israel for support of Palestinian militants, he has vocally supported the death fatwa against Salman Rushdie: a writer, an artist threatened with death for a novel. At the very least Yusuf has been involved with charities connected to terrorist groups like Hamas. The radical British Islamist Omar Bakri has claimed Yusuf is both an intimate of his and of the
imprisoned blind Sheikh Abdel-Rahman, Mr. Bin Laden's confederate and the instigator of the first World Trade Center attack. Yusuf was quoted in 1989 as saying this about Rushdie: "any writer who abuses the Prophet, or indeed any prophet, under Islamic law, the sentence for that is actually death." (Christian Science Monitor).

This is the kind of free speech and artistic liberty Yusuf favors. Does Ms. Stone really want herself associated with this event, which is making a point of honoring Mr. Yusuf by their invite? I know that she and the others, like Ms. Huston, are deeply caring people. That is the reason they should not dignify this disgraceful mockery of "peace" with their presence. Please consider rethinking Ms. Stone's involvement. Either that, or insist on Mr. Yusef being promptly de-invited."

Posted by: Nick Danger at November 28, 2006 6:38 PM

One click to the right , wind correction 5 left, piece of cake!!!

Posted by: OLD SARGE at November 28, 2006 8:08 PM

The world is under strong delusion.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at November 28, 2006 8:30 PM

For anyone who hasn't had the joy, and can figure out how to do it with minimal or no contribution to the global jihad, listen to the new rerecordings of Wild World (Bana, Bana), and Peace Train done by "Yusuf".

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at November 28, 2006 9:18 PM

The Nobel Peace Prize now is about as 'noble' as the institutionalized murder that is Islam.

Islam has 14 centuries of bloodshed on its hands, and not peace. What a horrid travesty has been made of this once-legitimate award. What's next pray tell, a posthumous Nobel Peace Prize awarded in loving memory to Idi Amin???

The Nobel Peace prize has truly and clearly outlived its usefulness if deserving winners cannot be found to give it too. And after this, this prize is forever tarnished and no longer a prize. Let's abolish the 'Nobel Peace Prize' ASAP!

Posted by: pythagoras at November 28, 2006 9:22 PM

An Orthodox Christian converting to Islam is like a Jew espousing Nazi ideology. Go figure.

Posted by: ujaklija at November 28, 2006 9:22 PM

Nariz, Tony Blair and Adam Gadahn are Catholic? Right-wing bloggers (Catholics) are Muslim apologists? Wow, that was only topped by your Freudian Psychology of Catholic sexuality. I don't believe I have ever seen a post that managed to mix Sigmund Freud with Jack Chick. Show me a conservative Catholic blogger who is a Muslim apologist. However, I can tell you of many Anglicans, Methodists and Presbyterians who are lamenting their church's stance on the Middle East. I think we all need to pull together to be a force against radical Islam. I don't believe your views on the Catholic Church helps.

Posted by: Dave at November 28, 2006 10:17 PM

Nariz wrote: "You see there is a lot of similiarity between Islam and Catholicism (ignoring the beheading and stoning stuff)..both are patriarchial to the extreme and doctrinairily so, both are misogynistic and diminish and denigrate the feminine (reducing it to a minor, submissive, child bearing supportive role), both are obsessed over sex and sexuality, both regulate and emphasize sex and sexuality."

"Catholicism does a good job of dumbing down its adherents. All the statuary, all the saints make believers soft-headed, impressionable. It's such a circus act that when believers apostosize they throw out the baby with the bathwater."

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2

To address the latter comment, Catholicism "statuary and saints" and the other forms of representation thereof, as well as representation of the Biblical story of Christ, the prophets, etc., may be construed by some as "dumbing down" of adherents, but their importance in the Catholic tradition is what has given us Western art, like it or not. Take a walk around Florence someday and ask yourself how different it would be if Cromwell's miserable art-and-pleasure-hating Puritans' influence had ever spread to the Continent. Come to think of it, if there's any branch of Christianity that has most in common with Islamofascism, Puritanism is it, not Catholicism.

Definition of a Puritan (no doubt originally coined by a Catholic): "a Puritan is someone who has a terrible suspician that someone, somewhere, may be happy."

And most Catholics these days, at least in the Western world, are not all that soft-headed or impressionable, and far less willing or ready to submit mindlessly to the decrees of Chruch leaders than those in some conservative Protestant sects.

As for Nariz's comments, why of all Christian groups are Catholics so singled out for having trouble with "sex and sexuality?" The views of certain fundamentalist Protestant sects are equally dismal, and cause just as much damage. To accuse Catholicism of "denigrating the feminine" is ironic, because it is precisely the veneration (praying to, but not worshipping, and yes, there is a difference) of Mary that many Protestants have found so objectionable about Catholicism. Certain Protestant theologians couldn't abide the idea of a lowly woman acting as an intermediary between God and Man. Granted, the Church qualified Mary's role as mother by insisting that she was a virgin (something early Christians weren't in the least concerned with), but at least they allowed her a role and a presence in people's religious lives. Most of the most powerful and influential Protestant sects today, such as the Southern Baptist Convention, are just as patriarchal and misogyist as the Catholic Church, just as anti-choice, anti-gay, anti-sex, anti-science, and authoritiarian as the Catholic Church at its worst, if not more so.

Posted by: angloirishslav at November 28, 2006 11:35 PM

"Nariz, putting aside for the moment Mary, please offer one single Muslim theologian in the same intellectual class as Augustine, Aquinas, Teresa of Avila, or, for that matter, the current Pope Benedict. One will suffice .. what's that? There are no thinkers who support Reason or Objective Truth in Islam? Thought not. Only hysterical imams screaming superstitious and impotent hatred? Thought so."

Jalal-e-Din Mevlavi Rumi (who wrote poetry)
Idries Shah (a 20th cent sufi master)
Aisha Bint Abu Bakr (wife of the Prophet)
Ibn Al-Arabi (medieval sufi master)
Ibn Rushd (Averroes, mentioned in Dante's works)

Just to name a few. You better learn your history before you generate an opinion. And that goes for the rest of you, too.

Posted by: Hereti at November 29, 2006 12:07 AM

Nariz wrote: "seems that virtually all converts to Islam were Catholic" and "Hmmm. I Can't think of any atheists, Methodists, Presbyterians or Baptists becoming Muslims."

Okay, I'll bite...

Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall – He was born William Pickthall in 1875 in London. Raised a Methodist, he converted to Islam in 1917 and by 1930 Pickthall published The Meaning of the Glorious Koran; which was an English language translation (meaning) of the Qur’an.

Maryam Jameelah - Formerly Margaret Marcus; Jewish American essayist, poet, journalist and author of several books. She converted from Judaism to Islam in 1962

Haiqa Khan – Formerly Jemimah Goldsmith, Jewish daughter of billionaire Sir James. At the age of 21 she married famous Pakistani cricket player Imran Khan and converted to Islam.

Muhammad Ali – Formerly Cassius Clay, a Baptist; three-time Heavy Weight Champion of the World. He converted to orthodox Islam in 1965.

Michael Wolfe – Author of "The Hajj: An American's Pilgrimage to Mecca", and "One Thousand Roads to Mecca: Ten Centuries of Travelers Writing About the Muslim Pilgrimage." Born of a Protestant Christian mother and Jewish father, he is most well known for his documentary on ABC’s Nightline which aired on April 18, 1997 called "An American in Mecca".

El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz -- More popularly known as Malcom X; black-rights activist and religious leader. Raised a Pentacostal before joining the Black Muslim cult, in 1964, after a pilgrimage to Mecca, he announced his conversion to orthodox Islam.

Sir Archibald Hamilton Bart, converted from Anglicanism to Islam in 1923. A well-known English statesman, fifth baronet of the first (1770) and third baronet of the second creation (1819) Sir Archibald was born on 10th December 1876. He was a Lieutinent in the Royal Defence Corp. and was also the President of the Selsy Conservative Association.

Larry Gene Weinman (Umar Faruq Abd-Allah Wymann-Landgraf) (born in 1948) is an American Muslim convert, born in Columbus, Nebraska to a Protestant family of the Midwest. He was brought up in the Congregationalist, Presbyterian, and Lutheran traditions. He is the grandson of Dr. Joseph Ephraim Weinman, Professor Emeritus, and one of the founding fathers of the School of Anatomy in the College of Veterinary Medicine in the University of Missouri.

Aminah Assilmi is the director of the International Union of Muslim Women. Her organization successfully lobbied for the Eid postage stamp. She is working on making "Eid Day" a national holiday. She speaks at college campuses and Islamic conferences. Before converting to Islam, she was a Southern Baptist.

There are also on the left, British diplomat and Soviet spy Harry St. John Bridger Philby who was an Anglican before his dual conversion to both Islam and Communism. and on the right, Stephen Schwartz (born 1948) American journalist, author and neoconservative advocate. He is a practicing Muslim and self-proclaimed "vocal critic" of Islamic terrorism. Schwartz is the executive director of the Center for Islamic Pluralism. His father was Jewish and his mother Protestant.

For more see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Islam

This list could go on and on but I think you get my point.

Posted by: Provoslavni at November 29, 2006 1:17 AM

Lionel Ritchie is huge in the Mideast. I remember ABC news doing a piece on his popularity amoung Iraqis. His music could be heard everywhere.
Go figure.
And who could forget these headlines from April 2006:

"Lionel Richie electrifies Libyans"

TRIPOLI (Reuters) - With Muammar Gaddafi's home as a backdrop, U.S. singer Lionel Richie jived and rocked for an adoring Libyan audience on Saturday in a concert to mark the 20th anniversary of a U.S. raid on the North African country.

... Organizers said the music provided a deliberately upbeat commemoration of the 1986 raid, an event that marked one of the lowest points in the decades Libya spent being seen as an outlaw state that supported terrorism.

Posted by: vztech at November 29, 2006 1:47 AM

More on this cat, Yusuf, courtesy Debbie Schlussel

In 1988, the singer of “Peace Train” authored an “informational pamphlet,” called “Eyewitness,” containing these peaceful words:

“The Jews seem neither to respect God nor his creation. Their own holy books contain the curse of God brought upon them by their prophets on account of their disobedience to Him and mischief in the earth. We have seen the disrespect for religion displayed by those who consider themselves to be 'God's chosen people.'...There will be no justice until all the land is given back to its rightful owners... Only Islam can bring peace back to the Holy Land.”

It’s not just what Islam ne Stevens wrote in the anti-Semitic pamphlet, it’s for whom he wrote it: the Islamic Association for Palestine (IAP), a HAMAS front-group with ties to Al-Qaeda.

Founded with a $490,000.00 check from the personal bank account of indicted HAMAS political director of Moussa Abu Marzook, IAP distributed the HAMAS charter, official HAMAS intifada communiqués issued from Gaza, and HAMAS glory records, which are tributes to HAMAS’ "violent successes" and lists of all the infidels it murdered. IAP also produces HAMAS training and recruitment videos.

IAP's finances and board were entwined with those of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, which in December 2001, the U.S. government shut down and froze the assets of, saying that it finances HAMAS. IAP is a defendant in a lawsuit filed by the parents of David Boim, an American teenager murdered by HAMAS.

In December 2001, federal authorities deported IAP leader Ghassan Dahduli on immigration violations. Dahduli's name was found in the address book of Wadih El-Hage, Osama bin Laden's former finance chief and personal secretary, who was convicted in the 1998 bombings of two American embassies in east Africa.

Not surprising, Cat Stevens won’t condemn HAMAS.

In May 1999, Stevens/Islam was the keynote speaker at the “Second ‘United for Al-Quds Conference.’” Al-Quds is the Islamic name for Jerusalem. The conference was sponsored by the “Who’s Who” of America’s radical Muslim groups which support terror and refuse to denounce HAMAS and Hezbollah (which murdered over 300 American marines and civilians in the 1980s, while they slept).

One of the main sponsors of this conference was American Muslims for Global Peace and Justice. The group, which spearheads the Muslim boycott of Starbucks (because its CEO is Jewish), was founded and run by the late Mahboob Khan, who raised money for Al-Qaeda at the Santa Clara mosque he founded and headed. In the late ‘90s, Khan twice brought Al-Qaeda deputy Ayman Al-Zawahiri, himself, into the US on a fake passport, to raise the money at the mosque. (Incredibly, Khan’s son, Suhail Khan, is a Bush political appointee and chief legal counsel to the Federal Highway Administration, where he has access to transport schedules for major weaponry and hazardous materials.)

True to form, Stevens, in his keynote speech at the conference, entitled “Jerusalem: The First and Last Scene of Faith’s Struggle” (a speech about Jihad for Jerusalem), said the Jews “were lowered to abject levels of disgrace and dishonor.”

Cat Stevens’ Map of Hate

Cat Stevens’ map of the world looks just like Al-Qaeda’s, HAMAS’, and Islamic Jihad’s map of the world. His website’s map lists every country – EXCEPT, there’s no Israel. Instead, there’s a new country, called “Holyland” in its place.

Cat Stevens & Terrorist Cronies, Ad Nauseam

In September 1999, Stevens delivered the five-time daily call to prayer at the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) annual conference. At the event, he and NBA Star Tariq Abdul-Wahad attacked America’s freedoms.

Saudi-funded ISNA is at the forefront of promoting extremist Wahhabi Islam and owns and controls at least 27% of America’s mosques and many American Islamic schools through an ISNA subsidiary, the Islamic Trust. Stevens was invited for this honor by ISNA’s then-chief, Muzammil Siddiqi, a prominent, radical Muslim who openly supports martyrdom, jihad, and making the US a Muslim country. Siddiqi opposes Muslims serving in the U.S. military and used ISNA to raise money for HAMAS’ Political Director Marzook and the Islamic Jihad terrorist group.

Cat Stevens HAMAS Buddies, II

Stevens was the featured main speaker at a Virginia fundraiser for the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) on November 11, 1996.

Former FBI counterterrorism chief Oliver “Buck” Revell calls CAIR a HAMAS front group. CAIR got its seed money from IAP (and therefore, from HAMAS).

Cat Stevens Favorite Radical Cleric

Then, there’s Cat Stevens’ favorite radical Islamic Cleric, Sheikh Hamza Yusuf, whom he met with less than a month after the 9/11 attacks. Yusuf, with whom Stevens is close, was under investigation at the time for this speech two days before the attacks: “This country is facing a terrible fate. ... This country stands condemned. It stands condemned like Europe stood condemned because of what it did — and lest people forget that Europe suffered two world wars after conquering the Muslim lands.” Unfortunately, President Bush invited him to the White House, where he was when FBI agents knocked on his California door.

Posted by: Nick Danger at November 29, 2006 3:19 AM

Not to beat a dead horse:

MADRID, Spain (CNN) --Spanish police have accused 10 Islamic charities -- some of them based in Saudi Arabia -- of providing funding and other support for al Qaeda terrorist activities, Spain's largest newspaper reported on Sunday.

The police report, based on information gathered before the September 11 attacks, has been added to the case against one of a dozen al Qaeda suspects in Spanish custody since the September 11 attacks, El Pais newspaper reported.

The 10 charities, according to the Spanish police report, are:

• International Islamic Relief Organization, a Saudi-based group being sued by families of the victims of the September 11 attacks, also listed as one of the most active in Afghanistan during the Taliban regime and believed to be a principal sponsor of terrorist training camps in the country.

• Al Haraeim Islamic Foundation, also being sued by the families.

• Ittehad-e-Islami, based in Afghanistan and considered to be the most-subsidized of the charities by Saudi government.

• Muslim Aid, created in London by singer Cat Stevens (now known as Yusuf Islam), which used funds to send mujahadeen fighters to Bosnia.

(our attention being on the third above)

Posted by: Nick Danger at November 29, 2006 3:43 AM

fourth above, that is.

Posted by: Nick Danger at November 29, 2006 3:49 AM

Cat Steven can enter America as the Intelligent agent who said he was than terrorist support was in error of his fact which didnot exist but based on hear say evident was transfer to than other job.

Posted by: DefenderofIslam at November 29, 2006 5:56 AM

Nariz and Yankeedoodl:

Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam/Yusuf is of Greek origins and, more likely than not, is Orthodox.

As for the "converts to Islam" scorecard, somehow I doubt that Catholics are any more prone than any other toward this. I've run into equally gormless, lost souls from other faiths who look to the exotic for salvation. Blair, as I recall, was not born Catholic, but converted.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at November 29, 2006 8:06 AM

DefenderofIslam:

Just for you, an account by Sarah Baxter in the London Times, the ignominious truth about your hero:

"I also had a formative experience in 1989. I was a cub reporter at the London magazine Time Out when I covered the campaign by Yusuf Islam — Cat Stevens — to gain state funding for his Islamia school in Brent, north London. I was ambitious to seek out foreign stories as a freelance and had heard that an obscure group called Hamas was becoming a force to be reckoned with in the occupied territories.

"I was sympathetic to the Palestinian cause and wanted to know more about these upstart challengers to Israel and the PLO. But how could I possibly gain access to Hamas? I rang my contacts at the Islamia school and bingo! I was immediately put in touch with their leaders in Gaza, whom Cat Stevens was flying off to see that very month.

"I took two weeks’ holiday from Time Out and set off for the occupied territories with a black chiffon scarf over my head. On arrival in Gaza I was disturbed that the Hamas leaders I met would never look me in the eye. To them, it was indecent even to glance at a member of the inferior sex. All their answers were directed at my boyfriend, who was taking pictures. But they were co-operative and eager for publicity.

"We were taken upstairs in a mosque and, to my shock, were introduced to a dozen or more would-be suicide bombers in their mid-teens, who declared their fervent wish to martyr themselves for their cause.

"At the time, there had been no suicide bombs in Israel. Some Hezbollah members in Lebanon had blown themselves up, but they were Shi’ite Muslims: Palestinian Sunnis were not supposed to go in for that sort of thing. Yet here I was, looking at a bunch of boys with kaffirs masking their faces, brandishing knives and practising karate in a place of worship. These weren’t boy scouts in a church hall; they were being trained to become fanatical killers by their religious elders.

"When I heard the other week that Cat Stevens had been refused entry to America, I thought good riddance."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=15547

Posted by: waterdragon52 at November 29, 2006 8:11 AM

NARIZ,
This is just such a familiar PC nonsense. It remids me of a guy who tried to persuade me that Orthodox Church (same goes for Roman Catholic Church, of course )is no better than islam regarding women's rights. His argument ? It doesn't ordain women !!! Now, is that comparable to honour killings?

Posted by: deusvult at November 29, 2006 9:45 AM

@NARIZ
"both regulate and emphasize sex and sexuality."
Oh, dear...show me a religion that does not have regulations regarding sexual conduct !
Your rhetoric is pretty familiar, and I suspect that you are a crypto-Muslim who plays a "tu quoque" game ?

Posted by: deusvult at November 29, 2006 9:59 AM

Provoslavni,

Please, Please, Please make a video or have someone post your parodies to a cartoon on U-tube ...better yet, get South Park to use them in one of their shows. They are too darn funny to let go! Thanks, they made my day. Now I have to get back to listening to Ted Nugent.

Posted by: never_submit at November 29, 2006 10:51 AM

Never submit & Ynkedoodl2,

Thanks for the compliments. It's just a product of my very sick mind.

However, there are others at this site with far greater talent in the parody department than my juvenile attempts.

Posted by: Provoslavni at November 29, 2006 12:14 PM

Siddiqi opposes Muslims serving in the U.S. military

--from a foregoing post

So am I, though for a different reason. Would I want a Moslem "buddy" fighting next to me? I mean on my side (not he fighting for the jihad, secretly).

My favorite Moslem in the US armed forces is the Moslem US Marine. Remember him? The one who pretended to have been kidnapped in Iraq, appeared wih his family in Lebanon, came back to the US, went AWOL, and hasn't been seen since.

Why is he my favorite Moslem in the US armed forces? Because he is the perfect example of how far you can depend on the Moslem wearing the same uniform as you in battle.
naw. There ain't no "good" Moslems. Although this is not politically correct to be said here at Jihad Watch, the only "good" Moslem is a---

no, no, not that old saw, heaven forbid! The only "good" Moslem is an ex-Moslem. I love those guys. I mean it. They have become human beings. You can talk to them as one human being to another. As for the Moslems--you can't.

Posted by: unicorns62000 at November 30, 2006 12:18 AM

I would like to correct the following inaccuracy by Provoslani - no offence I hope Provoslani, the rest of your posting was very interesting:

'Haiqa Khan – Formerly Jemimah Goldsmith, Jewish daughter of billionaire Sir James. At the age of 21 she married famous Pakistani cricket player Imran Khan and converted to Islam.'

Jemimah Goldsmith is not and never has been a Jew. To be a Jew one must either have a Jewish mother or be a convert to the Jewish faith. Her father, Sir James Goldsmith, had a Jewish father and a French Christian mother. Jemimah's mother Annabel is not a Jew, so therefore Jemimah isn't either.
According to the media Jemimah is now divorced from Imran Khan and is living with non-Muslim movie actor Hugh Grant. Recent photos of the happy couple suggest that she no longer wears the sort of upmarket Pakistani Muslim attire she wore when married to Imran.

Incidentally, more than one poster is incorrect about Tony Blair's religion. He is Church of England but he attends mass with his wife Cherie who is a Catholic. In the late 1990s Blair was told by the Catholic authorities not to take communion at Catholic services. As a Brit I am under the impression that under the Act of Settlement a Catholic cannot be prime minister of the UK. This Act may well be repealed in the future but it would cause great resentment if a serving prime minister campaigned to change this highly emotive law for his own convenience (Blair also wants to go down in history as the guy who brought peace to Northern Ireland). My guess is that Blair may convert to Catholicism once he retires from office, an event that may be soon. I have read that Blair reads the Qura'n in bed at night. This is, if true, surely something to be applauded even if he seems not to have learnt much about Islam from it yet.

Posted by: moris2 at November 30, 2006 5:25 PM

Moris2,

Thanks for the info. No offense is ever taken when given facts.

My source was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemima_Goldsmith

which contains this line: "The fact that she hailed from a famous Western Jewish family would prove to be of great consequence for her husband's political career"

Now that she has divorced Imran Khan, gone back to her maiden name, and dated Hugh Grant, I wonder if she's abandonded Islam. Let's hope so.

Posted by: Provoslavni at December 1, 2006 11:51 PM