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Sharia Alert from Afghanistan. By Kim Sengupta in the Independent, via the New Zealand Herald (thanks to Kemaste):
GHAZNI - The gunmen came at night to drag Mohammed Halim away from his home, in front of his crying children and his wife begging for mercy.The 46-year-old schoolteacher tried to reassure his family that he would return safely.
But his life was over.
He was partly disembowelled and then torn apart with his arms and legs tied to motorbikes. The remains were put on display as a warning to others against defying Taleban orders to stop educating girls.
Halim is one of four teachers killed in rapid succession by the Islamists at Ghazni, a strategic point on the routes from Kabul to the south and east which has become the scene of fierce clashes between the Taleban and United States and Afghan forces....
At the village of Qara Bagh, Halim's family is distraught and terrified. His cousin, Ahmed Gul, shook his head. "They killed him like an animal. No, no. We do not kill animals like that. They took away a father and a husband, they had no pity. We are all very worried. Please go now, you see those men standing over there? They are watching. It is dangerous for you, and for us."
Fatima Mustaq, the director of education at Ghazni, has had repeated death threats, the notorious 'night letters'. Her gender, as well as her refusal to send girls home from school, has made her a hate figure for Islamist zealots. "I think they killed him that way to frighten us, otherwise why make a man suffer so much? Mohammed Halim and his family were good friends of ours and we are very, very upset by what has happened. He came to me when the threats first began and asked what he should do. I told him to move somewhere safe. I think he was trying to arrange that when they came and took him."
The threats against Mushtaq also extend to her husband Sayyid Abdul and their eight children. "When the first letters arrived, I tried to hide them from my husband. But then he found the next few. He said we must stand together. We talked, and we decided that we must tell the children, so that they can be prepared. But it is not a good way for them to grow up."
During the Taleban's rule she and her sister ran secret schools for girls at their home. "They found out and raided us. We managed to persuade them that we were only teaching the Koran. But they spied and found out we were teaching algebra. So they came and beat us. Can you imagine, beating someone for teaching algebra."
Yes, I can.
Posted by Robert at December 1, 2006 12:30 AM
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The proof that there is no Saving Islam is in the Barbarity of the Killings. they take such Glee in the Grotesqueness of the Murder. tying a Disemboweled body to Motorcycles? Islam cannot be saved IT HAS TO BE DESTROYED! for Humanities sake.
I have to say that reading this stuff REALLY makes me angry. It's an abomination. this Religion and those who follow it to the Letter are EVIL. there is no better definition for Cruelty such as this. has there always been Massive predisposition in the Middle East for Violence Murder? or is this Truly all because of the Book? there has to be more to it than just the Qu'ran . the Culture has to be as Flawed as the Religion for Atrocities like this to occur. It's the Chicken and the Egg. which came first.
Savage Inhumane Violence from Mid East Cultures , or the Teachings of Muhammad.
I'm starting to think that it's as Genetic as it is Theological.
Posted by: DUGGY
at December 1, 2006 12:58 AM
Heyyy... *I'm* an algebra teacher, and I teach algebra to some very bright girls.
Some parents have been upset with my methods at times, but none have ever threatened to partially disembowel me and quarter me with motorcycles.
God bless America!
Posted by: Wrymouth
at December 1, 2006 1:03 AM
Waiting to hear what Fatima Mernissi, Leila Ahmed, Leila Abu-Lughod, Diana Eck, and Shirin Ebadi, say about this, as they carefully point out that the mistreatment of women, demonstrated in the attempt to deny them education, is merely a "cultural practice" and has nothing to do with Islam. It would be far truer to say that those Muslim peoples and polities most willing to overlook the tenets and attitudes of Islam are those where women have the best chance at something like a semi-decent life, and that it is precisely to the extent that a country observes the Shari'a, or tries to, that determines the level of hideousness of the treatment of local Muslim women.
Forget, everyone, what Mernissi and Ebadi and Ahmed and assorted running dogs of Islam -- Karen Armstrong comes to mind -- say about Islam and "feminism" or "Feminism and Islam." Read Hirsi Ali. Read Azam Kamguian and those who blog at the Homa Darabi website. Forget the purveyors of nonsense (Purveyors of Nonsense To His Majesty King Abdullah, Hassan, Hussein, Muhammad, whatever you want, since round about 1985, when the whole ridiculous "Islam and Feminism" thing got started).
Posted by: Hugh
at December 1, 2006 1:08 AM
Of course they'd beat them for teaching Algebra. After all, despite the Arabic name of its supposed inventor, Algebra is un-Islamic. This can be verified from the Quran - there's no way one would end up with a total of 1 if one were to add the fractions mentioned in Quran 4:11
4:11 Allah chargeth you concerning (the provision for) your children: to the male the equivalent of the portion of two females, and if there be women more than two, then theirs is two-thirds of the inheritance, and if there be one (only) then the half. And to each of his parents a sixth of the inheritance, if he have a son; and if he have no son and his parents are his heirs, then to his mother appertaineth the third; and if he have brethren, then to his mother appertaineth the sixth, after any legacy he may have bequeathed, or debt (hath been paid). Your parents and your children: Ye know not which of them is nearer unto you in usefulness. It is an injunction from Allah. Lo! Allah is Knower, Wise.Except for addition of fractions.
4:12 And unto you belongeth a half of that which your wives leave, if they have no child; but if they have a child then unto you the fourth of that which they leave, afte r any legacy they may have bequeathed, or debt (they ma y have contracted, hath been paid). And unto them belon geth the fourth of that which ye leave if ye have no ch ild, but if ye have a child then the eighth of that whi ch ye leave, after any legacy ye may have bequeathed, o r debt (ye may have contracted, hath been paid). And if a man or a woman have a distant heir (having left neit her parent nor child), and he (or she) have a brother o r a sister (only on the mother's side) then to each of them twain (the brother and the sister) the sixth, and if they be more than two, then they shall be sharers in the third, after any legacy that may have been bequeat hed or debt (contracted) not injuring (the heirs by wil ling away more than a third of the heritage) hath been
4:176They ask thee for a pronouncement. Say: Allah hath pronounced for you concerning distant kindred. If a man die childless and he have a sister, hers is half the heritage, and he would have inherited from her had she died childless. And if there be two sisters, then theirs are two-thirds of the heritage, and if they be brethren, men and women, unto the male is the equivalent of the share of two females. Allah expoundeth unto you, so that ye err not. Allah is Knower of all things.
at December 1, 2006 1:36 AM
What a board of education the taleban runs, eh? What a curse is islam!
Posted by: BB
at December 1, 2006 2:04 AM
Yes, for the same Taliban, our "ally" Pakistan seems to have found a "politically correct" answer, as the following title aptly describes it...
QUOTE
Accept defeat by Taliban, Pakistan tells Nato
By Ahmed Rashid in Islamabad
Last Updated: 2:00am GMT 30/11/2006
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at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/29/wafghan29.xml
The article goes on to give us Pakistan's solution to the buctchery of their wholly owned subsidiary, the Taliban...
QUOTE
Senior Pakistani officials are urging Nato countries to accept the Taliban and work towards a new coalition government in Kabul that might exclude the Afghan president Hamid Karzai.
Canadian soldiers at the scene of a suicide bomb attack in Kandahar. Support in Canada for the Nato mission is fading
Pakistan's foreign minister, Khurshid Kasuri, has said in private briefings to foreign ministers of some Nato member states that the Taliban are winning the war in Afghanistan and Nato is bound to fail. He has advised against sending more troops.
Western ministers have been stunned. "Kasuri is basically asking Nato to surrender and to negotiate with the Taliban," said one Western official who met the minister recently.
UNQUOTE
The implication of such a move is obvious to all, except perhaps the Pakistanis - or maybe it is.
at December 1, 2006 2:15 AM
Where is Rosie O'Donnell when you need her?
Posted by: atheling
at December 1, 2006 2:35 AM
These Islamo-sub-humans disgust me. Period.
Posted by: bamsterkins
at December 1, 2006 3:59 AM
FAIR WARNING TO THOSE WHO WISH TO CONVERT TO ISLAM!!
This is typical of the treatment you can expect from the Peaceful Religion of Islam. Do you really wish to raise your children by those who do not allow education for little girls? This is not an isolated incident, incidents of this nature go on daily in countries controlled by Muslims. Not only are teachers butchered, shot, raped, kidnapped never to reappear, so to, are doctors, attorneys, journalists, policeman, firemen, nuns, priests, soldiers, taxi-cab drivers, judges, and even garbage pick-up men.
Anyone who wishes to enlist in Islam is two brick short of a full load.
Posted by: exsgtbrown
at December 1, 2006 7:15 AM
The master race (at least in their warped minds) showing us once again that they are actually a subhuman bunch of scum. We really do need an industrial strength cleanser to wipe this scum away.
By the way, I don't hear any "moderate" Muslims out there condemning this. Either they condone this as being mild or perhaps it's yet another example of why "moderate Muslims" are merely figments of the imagination.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at December 1, 2006 8:29 AM
That poor man and his poor family.
Another glorious triumph for Allah and the religion of peace.
Posted by: Josephine
at December 1, 2006 8:39 AM
12 years of elementary and high school and then 4+ years of college.
All that time, I was never beaten once by anyone to stop me from studying.
Where were the Taliban when I most needed them!!!!
Posted by: Shy Guy
at December 1, 2006 9:16 AM
americaningermany:
Wonder how long it will be before this starts happening in Europe, the U.S., Canada and Australia?
It's already started. Teachers are being threatened and bullied, schools are burned to the ground, students refuse to learn about un-Islamic things etc.
Things like this clearly demonstrate why the Muslim world is so incredibly and irreversibly backwards. At this rate they'll just memorize the Quran and kill anyone who teaches children how to read.
Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop
at December 1, 2006 9:25 AM
Forget, everyone, what Mernissi and Ebadi and Ahmed and assorted running dogs of Islam -- Karen Armstrong comes to mind -- say about Islam and "feminism" or "Feminism and Islam." Read Hirsi Ali. Read Azam Kamguian and those who blog at the Homa Darabi website. Forget the purveyors of nonsense (Purveyors of Nonsense To His Majesty King Abdullah, Hassan, Hussein, Muhammad, whatever you want, since round about 1985, when the whole ridiculous "Islam and Feminism" thing got started).
Posted by: Hugh at December 1, 2006 01:08 AM
Hugh:
Mernissi, Ebadi, Ahmed, K. Armstrong and their ilk should not be forgotten. They should be remembered well and reviled for their willful deceptions.
Posted by: waterdragon52
at December 1, 2006 9:38 AM
Ignorance, like killing, burning and raping, is a virtue to be cherished according to the doctrine of Mr. Perfect. That's why teachers and students are killed and schools closed or torched all over the ummah. This is why the ummah consists of nothing but third world basket cases-no education, no intelligence, no progress. But they have that burning (heh heh) love for Illah and they can recite that book of his til the cows come home-all while they live in squalor and demand that the rest of us join them in their wretchedness.
What a bunch of total losers. It's almost tragic that they don't even realize it.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at December 1, 2006 9:41 AM
You know I hate to say it but why aren't these Taleban jackasses being dragged out in the streets by the people of this town and treated the same way? If this is the life they choose then so be it but if change needs to be made then why not stand up for yourself and do so. This kind of crap makes me sick to my stomach. I be damned if the took me without a fight.
Posted by: Supermaxx
at December 1, 2006 10:31 AM
"You know I hate to say it but why aren't these Taleban jackasses being dragged out in the streets by the people of this town and treated the same way?"
Maybe it is obvious, but my guess is most people agree with the Taleban, or else most people are too scared and relatively too unarmed to stand up to them.
What really bothers me is this assurance in the West that it just can't ever happen here, so we don't even need to plan to prevent the possibility.
I feel so sorry for the teacher's wife and little kids. I could totally see it happening to my dad if my family had lived in a place like that. He would never follow stupid rules for long if they went against what he wanted to do.
I can see why some people are so set on pushing for constitutional democracy in the Islamic world, it might seem like a cure to things like this, and give people like this teacher more rights. But the transition can't happen without consideration of culture. You can't just plop down a new political system and expect it to make everything better.
Heck, even here, with our history, like two-thirds of the job is maintaining a culture capable of maintaining democratic republican institutions.
Pakistan: Pakistan has been two-faced through all this. Pakistan isn't an ally, they just tried to look like one so that we wouldn't act against them when we would have had the nerve. Pakistan has been supporting the Taleban, and we should do something about it. But, we won't, because the of the "realists" back in power, and because of concern for the opinion of the "international community". The same "international community" that refused to legitimize our action to take out Saddam and his budding nuclear capacity, because they were too into Oil for Food kickbacks.
at December 1, 2006 12:55 PM
As much as I hate algebra I like girls getting an education even more. May these bastards rot in hell.
Wrymouth you remind me of my old algebra teacher ;)
Posted by: JadeDragoness
at December 1, 2006 1:18 PM
As much as I hate algebra I like girls getting an education even more. May these bastards rot in hell.
Wrymouth you remind me of my old algebra teacher ;)
Posted by: JadeDragoness at December 1, 2006 01:18 PM
Amen to all that, including the hating of algebra part!
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at December 1, 2006 2:06 PM
And people wonder why there is so much anger in the comments section of JihadWatch. Read along with us as we witness the daily atrocities from followers of the "Religion of Peace" and you too will be (or should be) angry too.
at December 1, 2006 3:01 PM
"And people wonder why there is so much anger in the comments section of JihadWatch."
Anger has a purpose. It helps people take a stand against injustice. It can be used poorly, and it can take control of people, overriding their good sense, and that isn't good. But anger in its place isn't bad.
With things like this going on in the world, there's either going to be people letting off steam as such incidents happen, and thinking through things gradually and working on fixes carefully and gradually, as a result. Or, there's going to be intensely willful ignorance up to the point that the depth of the situation can't be ignored anymore, and then all hell breaks loose.
The people who insist that we stay calmly tolerant of widespread Muslim tolerance of acts like the above, and who smear as bigots those who get angry at these incidents, are acting in a way that makes the latter more likely. That's not good for Americans, Muslims, or anyone else.
at December 1, 2006 4:34 PM
I just saw this: "I'm starting to think that it's as Genetic as it is Theological."
I'm guessing you're a troll, but in case you are not: BULLSHIT. That's racist.
The father that was killed was of the same racial background as the rest of the people in his area. His now-fatherless kids, too. There are a lot of non-Muslims of the same genetic background as Muslims in many of these countries. Zoroastrians from Persia. Hindus from areas that have historically had mixed Hindu/Muslim population. Christians in Palestine, Egypt, Lebanon. And even of the Muslims, many of these people's forefathers fought hard to prevent the spread of Islam, and just weren't militarily strong enough. You know all the stuff about taking slaves of those who lose in battle? What religion do you think the offspring of those people who fought and lost in battle are now?
It is not race. It is cultural and religious.
Culture also accounts for the relative difficulty for political reform of Arab Muslims relative to, for example, Kurdish ones.
There's a flip-side to this.
There are people who believe that we can plop down political institutions on people with cultures hostile to those institutions. They've run into problems with this plan, problems that may or may not be surmountable.
They have a tendency to blame those who trace the problems to a failure to take culture and religion into account as racists. It is easy to do, because cultures tend to develop among groups of people living together, and groups of people living together tend to be of the same racial background.
But this approach is not honest. It does not take into account the actual point of the opposition.
And the result of this deception is going to be to convince more people like DUGGY (if he's not a troll) that race might actually be the root cause.
at December 1, 2006 5:03 PM
More proof that Islam is a religion of hate, violence, oppression, and is a tool of Satan.
Posted by: Monkeywho
at December 1, 2006 7:06 PM
Just when you think their imaginations of awful forms of cruelty and murder have run dry - BINGO!
They come up with more.
I can't even begin to express my disgust.I don't think there are enough words in the English language that are harsh enough for these people.
I really don't think the Afgans like the Taleban: they are scared of them.
I really feel for the women.
If you have already seen it, try to rent the movie "Osama". It is an Afgani movie about a little girl, her mother and grandmother and worth watching. Be warned: you may feel sick!
Posted by: Gramfan
at December 1, 2006 7:21 PM
When will Islam be brought to court for preaching death?
Posted by: rocky
at December 1, 2006 10:30 PM
This barbarism has always and still is the
nature of Islam.
The Prophet Mohammand, and yes he is a Prophet,
a Prophet of Death and Destruction.
History has shown it to be true over and over.
The Prophet of Death himself had killed many
people.
And then people try to apologize for the Crusades.
Actually, it is time for another "Crusade"...to rid this world of such "evil"
at December 2, 2006 7:26 AM
" As much as I hate algebra I like girls getting an education even more. May these bastards rot in hell.
"Wrymouth you remind me of my old algebra teacher ;)"
(a la Groucho Marx) If I reminded you of your old algebra teacher, you wouldn't hate algebra!"
(wiggles eyebrows and waggles cigar)
I think we're all in agreement on the Bastards Rotting in Hell part. I'm sending a stern memo to God right now, proposing that He let us put such matters to a popular and binding vote.
Meanwhile, I propose an alliance of convenience versus the Muslim Nutjobs with China and India. Even if the Moderate Muslims won't clean house, I'd like to see them go up against 2.5 billion assorted infidels!
Posted by: Wrymouth
at December 2, 2006 4:41 PM
And here is yet another example of what Islam does best.....
and that would be: committing murder.
Posted by: pythagoras
at December 2, 2006 5:53 PM
Yet more proof that Islam thrives on lack of education. Algebra is a threat to Islam because it is logical, and if somebody learns logic through math, then they can apply logic to their daily life... which could lead to debunking the bullshit that is the Koran. They can't have that happening, so they kill the teacher.
This evil disease needs to be eradicated from our planet. My God help us all.
Posted by: Truthseeker
at December 4, 2006 3:28 AM
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