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I trust that Muslim students are issued a cross, a Bible, an icon of Jesus, and the like. "UK schools get guide to Islam," from Dawn, with thanks to James:
LONDON, Dec.9: A guide to Islam is being given to primary schools across Britain containing a headscarf, a prayer mat, a prayer cap, sacred Ihram clothing worn during the pilgrimage to Makkah, a poster of the Muslim prophets and a compass to locate the direction of Makkah.According to Daily Express the teaching resource, provided by the Muslim Council of Britain, is intended to provide children aged seven and 11 with information about true Islamic beliefs.
The pack, described on Friday by one head teacher as a "three-foot by three-foot plastic box", also contains CDs, videos, children's books and pamphlets and model kits of a mosque and Islam's holiest site, the Ka'bah.
Sir Iqbal Sacranie, of the MCB, said: "We believe education is the key to creating a vibrant and understanding society.
"We want to ensure that every schoolchild has access to high quality Islamic resources in their schools." Colin Manning, head teacher of North Reddish Junior School in Stockport, which has only four Muslim pupils, said: "The future is in the hands of young people.
The better they understand each other, the more secure that future will be." Tahir Alam, education spokesman for the MCB, added: "We found that schools were using books that were not accurate about Muslim traditions and beliefs so we put this pack together.
"We now have over 800 schools using them."
Posted by Robert at December 10, 2006 6:15 PM
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And this illustrates the whole problem. Where is the money coming from for this country wide program? The Saudi's.
Get off their oil.
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at December 10, 2006 6:21 PM
And this illustrates the whole problem. Where is the money coming from for this country wide program? The Saudi's.
Get off their oil.
Posted by: Borg at December 10, 2006 06:21 PM
Good point. Reminds me of a deep observation made by americaningermany:
Question: What do Saudis really export?
Answer: Oil? WRONG!! Oil is just the source of funding the real export: Wahabbi ISLAM!
Think about it and, thank you, AIG!
at December 10, 2006 6:32 PM
Another item from the UK:
Drug dealer turns Muslim to ensure supply of his favourite food in prison
Posted by: ummahnewslinks at December 10, 2006 6:36 PM
Wow...just wow...
Posted by: HistorianTheologian at December 10, 2006 6:41 PM
So the pack included 'a poster of the Muslim prophets'?
I hope the pictures on this poster include those well-known Danish ones. The one with the lit fuse coming out of the turban would be particularly educational for primary school kids.
at December 10, 2006 6:51 PM
The UK is deep into Dhimmi.
Sir Iqbal Sacranie, of the MCB, said: "We believe education is the key to creating a vibrant and understanding society.
Translation: by the education that 'we' provide, 'you' will understand the 'superiority' of Islam, and create a vibrant society based on Allah, Quran, Mohammad and Sharia law...
Posted by: duh_swami at December 10, 2006 6:53 PM
Unbelievable.
It would be a much more useful and honest program to teach them lying, deceit,breaking promises, "poor-me" victim-status, fornication and pedophelia.
Where do these liberal sphinctromorphs get these ideas?
It would be like going into Malaysian schools and handing children a rosary, a Book of Mormon, a surplice, a catechism and a mezzuzah as if possession of such items would give them a better understanding of the west.
Whenever I read such reports it gives me this sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that we are doomed. I can't believe that educated people actually conceive of and promote such trite and stupid (not to mention destructive)ideas.
Unbelievable.
Posted by: Sansantiago at December 10, 2006 6:57 PM
Perhaps the Church of England, some Orthodox patriarchs, or the Vatican would like to provide some Bibles, rosaries, candles, crosses and crucifixes, models and posters of some cathedrals, pictures of icons of Jesus and the apostles, stories of lives of the saints, etc, etc. It'd be instructive to see the moslem reactions to that.
Posted by: eve_anne_gelical at December 10, 2006 7:04 PM
All those 3'x3' packs should make a huge bonfire.
Posted by: 3812Michelle at December 10, 2006 7:07 PM
As I keep saying, the Left controls the schools, and they are indoctrinating our kids into islam. Destroy the left and you destroy the brainwashing.
The children are the future. If they are brainwashed into accepting islam at face value, there will be no resistence to da'wa, and Britian will become an islamic state. That is the master plan.
Posted by: August22
at December 10, 2006 7:23 PM
" . . . a headscarf, a prayer mat, a prayer cap, sacred Ihram clothing worn during the pilgrimage to Makkah, a poster of the Muslim prophets and a compass to locate the direction of Makkah."
They forgot the AK-47, bomb vest, detonator, block of semtex, and the rusty head sawing knife.
One reads this stuff and can only wonder how can educated people be so stupid. What are they eating, reading, who's payroll are they on?
Wanna know why the little chillins aren't being given an Arabic Quran? Infidels are not allowed to touch an Arabic Quran, also known as "The Blue Print for Conquest."
Posted by: Pelayo at December 10, 2006 7:29 PM
I can't let go of this article.
I am so glad that my little chillins are out of school. I would raise hell with the school board, and I would not allow any of that crap into my house.
I might keep the AK, however.
Posted by: Pelayo at December 10, 2006 7:35 PM
Do you have Halloween in the UK? Next year's costume is ready.
Posted by: 3812Michelle at December 10, 2006 7:45 PM
"The pack, described on Friday by one head teacher as a "three-foot by three-foot plastic box", also contains CDs, videos, children's books and pamphlets and model kits of a mosque and Islam's holiest site, the Ka'bah."
Why not just include a wooden box called a coffin and be done with it?
Posted by: remote_control at December 10, 2006 7:45 PM
Oh God, Oh God! They've gone overboard - THe Brits hv lost it.
How did these people go from looking down at the natives of the British Empire, to a desire to "go native?"
It must be a feeling of guilt - and being sorry for the way they treated them - it can't be anything else.
GRRR!
Well, seems the islamics aren't kidding!
The danger is that the kiddies will utter that fatal sentence of convertion - in unknowingly - in front of the moslems witnesses. Or should I say, pushed - emcouraged by the islamic slime.
GRRR!
Allah- polytheist
Posted by: allat at December 10, 2006 8:00 PM
According to Daily Express the teaching resource, provided by the Muslim Council of Britain, is intended to provide children aged seven and 11 with information about true Islamic beliefs.
.. but what about this:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/014331.php#comments
.. on Dec 8, just two days back?
Posted by: Alert at December 10, 2006 8:04 PM
Tell me this is only a nightmare ... surely it can't be real. The Brits have totally lost it.
Posted by: TheOmegaMan at December 10, 2006 8:04 PM
I truly thought this was a joke, or an exaggeration.
What on earth are these people thinking?! I guess it's just my nature to try to find a logical reason for why people behave the way they do, but for the life of me I cannot find it in these situations!
How can people just sit there and allow this to go on?
Posted by: Mo at December 10, 2006 8:24 PM
Must we forget that our schools here are not much better. Bryan County, CA and Nyssa, OR. Dressing kids as Muslims, praying, memorizing the 5 pillars, studying scriptures out of the Koran. Pull your head out of the sand befor it is too late.
Posted by: MadMom at December 10, 2006 8:33 PM
No pistol? How will the kiddies learn about "true Islam" without one?
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 10, 2006 8:35 PM
Yeah we do have halloween in UK and this site has inspired me for next halloween.
Im gonna dress as a sucide bomber and hold a sign saying: "BEHEAD THOSE WHO SAY ISLAM IS VIOLENT"
Im gonna stand outside the town hall in manchester and chant: "Death to america" etc.
Maybe ill be arrested and make the local paper.
On second thoughts we will probably be an islamic state by then.
Maybe they will elect me mayor.
Posted by: BlowHammed at December 10, 2006 8:52 PM
"...a poster of the Muslim prophets"
Maybe in art class they could draw some funny pictures of those prophets.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen at December 10, 2006 9:08 PM
We of the West have become so complacent, so sure of the superiority of our culture that we cannot believe anyone in their right mind would question it unless they felt they had suffered a great injustice at our hands.
Being rational, we of the West have bent over backwards to understand and right this supposed injustice. The fact that this "injustice" is a fabrication of a culture that is violently opposed to everything we hold dear continues to elude those who pretend to lead us.
Let's start rattling some cages.
Posted by: USBeast at December 10, 2006 9:10 PM
What, no Koran??? I can't believe they forgot to include the Koran!
This has got to be a joke, right? This is a conversion box. OMG-I can't believe British parents would tolerate this. A compass is needed to point them to Mecca? This has got to be joke! Brits, please weigh in on this...
at December 10, 2006 9:20 PM
Oh, I see in the post above that I, as an infidel am not allowed to touch the arabic koran. Ok, since I am a very proud and dedicated infidel, can anyone tell me where I can pick up a case of those arabic korans? I have in mind some interesting household uses for that book. :)
Posted by: CarpeDiem at December 10, 2006 9:35 PM
Being rational, we of the West have bent over backwards to understand and right this supposed injustice. The fact that this "injustice" is a fabrication of a culture that is violently opposed to everything we hold dear continues to elude those who pretend to lead us.
We seem to need to be collectively forced into an unpleasant course correction every few generations. Compare handing out prayer rugs to our kids with yielding territory at the Munich Conference. The last war was over territory, this one is over religion. Its eerie to watch.
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/munich1.htm
at December 10, 2006 9:39 PM
the British educational board is gone nuts kids are very impressionable you want to bet that all these kids on going Muslim, is the home of the Church of England the British have flipped
Posted by: islamakapigeaters at December 10, 2006 9:46 PM
Religion has no place in school . School is for education , not indoctrination. Islam is a poison of the soul and mind. look at the children of the Mid East, they hate and they are taught to hate all other religions and to hate Jews. if anyone thinks that this is a safe and good idea they need their head examined.
Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 10, 2006 9:47 PM
This is going too far. All Brits should write to their local councilors who have some say in what goes on in primary schools. Anyone can find out their cuncillor, MP, MEP etc and then send them an e-mail by going to:
and typing in their postcode.
Posted by: wallyUK at December 10, 2006 10:35 PM
I think this is a further illustration of the problems in Britain with regard to schooling (from the other article posted on December 6, 2006 -- "Less Christianity, More Islam and Hinduism" -- it appears that teachers in some areas of Britain are given mandates with respect to how much time to devote to each religion -- the teachers MUST spend 20 percent of their time discussing Islam). Having been raised in the United States, what is occurring in Britain strikes me as extremely contentious and problematic. But, then, I guess it's what happens when you get a country with a designated denomination (ie, the church of England)...and then, it's only a matter of time before people of other religions (say, Catholics, or Hindus, Muslims, etc) ask for time for *their* religion.
I think all public schools should be strictly secular -- NO religion taught. If the parents want a religious education for their children, then they should pay for it out of their own pocket, not require the State to do so.
Again, Canada (in the province of Alberta, for example, some "public schools" are, in fact, Catholic schools) is somewhat similar to Britain...in that Protestants and Catholics had to be accommodated (given the historical realities). This makes the effort to ensure that public schools remain non-religious more difficult (I think, theoretically, it should be easier in the States...although I've also heard about the encroachments that Islam has made into some school districts -- again, a real problem. But I think American laws provide the means, in principle, to keep religion out of public schools.)
Posted by: J.S. at December 10, 2006 10:42 PM
Would it be possible for a British JW/DWer to get a look at one of these idiot kits? A picture would be highly appreciated. Thank you.
Posted by: del at December 10, 2006 10:55 PM
" Again, Canada (in the province of Alberta, for example, some "public schools" are, in fact, Catholic schools)"
I live in Alberta and Catholic schools are NOT PUBLIC. they are part of the Separate School board. When a Person Files their Census They can choose if they want their Taxes to go to the Separate or PUBLIC schools. I don't see this as the same thing and i don't recall EVER hearing of HATE being taught in a Canadian school LOL , Catholic or not. but we DO know that is not the case is Islamic Schools. there is no Hate filled agenda in Catholicism or in the Western education systems, but there is a VERY large population of Islamists in the UK and Europe who do not want to assimilate and HATE the West, and want to teach the Teachings of a Proven Violent and intolerant Religion. If a Catholic school student was learning from a Bible that taught to Kill infidels and to not respect the Laws of the Land and to spread hate then i assure you , they would not exist in Canada.
Comparing Islamic Schools to Catholic is a Real stretch .
Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 10, 2006 11:00 PM
PS i also know in my previous post i said that Religion has no place in School. I should have Qualified that remark by saying , Violent Hate filled Terrorist Religions have no place in Schools.
My error
LOL
at December 10, 2006 11:03 PM
The UK is deep into Dhimmi.
Sir Iqbal Sacranie, of the MCB, said: "We believe education is the key to creating a vibrant and understanding society.
[...]
Posted by: duh_swami
"We believe education is the key to creating a vibrant and understanding society." - IN SOWdi ARABIA, BIATCH!!!!!!!!!
We're plenty "understanding" already and we've lost a good deal of our vibrancy due to your pernicious lesser jihad.
Back to the bogs!
Posted by: germaninamerica at December 10, 2006 11:39 PM
"We want to ensure that every schoolchild has access to high quality Islamic resources in their schools." Colin Manning, head teacher of North Reddish Junior School in Stockport, which has only four Muslim pupils, said: "The future is in the hands of young people. The better they understand each other, the more secure that future will be."
No, Mr. Manning, the future is in the hands of Islam as long as you and others who are in positions of trust regarding our young people continue to remain ignorant of it's poisonous nature. How dare you participate in corrupting the minds of young people with this deceitful and destructive ideology? You think you are building a better future, but you are actually contributing to a very bleak one.
Here's hoping the British parents will raise hell against you and others like you until you pull your collective heads out of the sand. There is no excuse for non-muslims who help to sow the seeds of their own society's demise. Study Islam on your own, learn of it's bloody history, it's false prophet, it's jihad, and it's anti-Christian doctrines. Then convert to it if that is what you want -- but don't feed it to our children.
Okay, rant over.
Posted by: leper at December 10, 2006 11:44 PM
Pelayo,
You beat me to it, Heh heh.
Dull head-sawing knife, bomb vest, you just can't get the muslim experience without the necessities.
at December 10, 2006 11:58 PM
Why a compass? Is the English educational system so debased that students no longer can tell east from west?
If so, then even a compass won't help because they won't know where Mecca is anyway.
(Not that US students would do any better)
Posted by: WillPower at December 11, 2006 12:08 AM
"...and a poster of Moham-mad"
Imagine to look at his face - is that poster supposed to hang on the wall? I'd use it for dart practice or spitting olive pits at his face.
Aren't the islamics violating ( among other things)- their our religious laws in depicting this slime Mo?
Allat
Posted by: allat at December 11, 2006 12:10 AM
Correction: their religious laws.
Me, I'm a wild polytheist, I worship dancing bare headed and bare footed in the green woods. he, he.
Allat
Posted by: allat at December 11, 2006 12:14 AM
Why a compass?
Surely everyone knows where Mecca is.
Straight down - same direction as Hell.
Why do I keep getting the feeling that it is getting worse each day and the nightmare won't stop?
Posted by: Gramfan at December 11, 2006 1:17 AM
This is insane!!
Posted by: dennisw at December 11, 2006 1:50 AM
It's disgusting!
And on Dhimmi watch in November we had this posted about our own:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/013942.php#comments
Posted by: pigtails not veils at December 11, 2006 2:32 AM
Why a compass?
Surely everyone knows where Mecca is.
Straight down - same direction as Hell.
I liie that Gramfan. Definitely hell.
Posted by: pigtails not veils at December 11, 2006 2:34 AM
sorry for the typo. I meant I like that. It's late.
Posted by: pigtails not veils at December 11, 2006 2:35 AM
Splendid ! The box will be most useful.
They don't know schoolchildren. This will increase antipathy towards Muslims. Children are not stupid - maybe it will be a novelty for nice middle=class children who have never encountered anyone whose parents don't drive a BMW or Mercedes or live in £500.000 homes..................but it will be despised by most schoolchildren who will have even greater negative feelings towards Muslims and knowing children they will want to know why the suicide-belt is missing
Posted by: Voyager at December 11, 2006 4:11 AM
Remember, Iqqibal "Skull" Sacranie was the creep who said that death was perhaps too good for Salman Rushdie. To think that they made him "sir," while in the 1960s those stiff-upper-lip Brits made a howl when The Beatles were given (to quote George Harrison) a "leather medal on a wooden string" by their queen, for "selling corduroy." How low they have sunk. Rivers of blood, rivers of blood.
Posted by: anti-uffe at December 11, 2006 4:19 AM
We can all start to fight back.
Buy "islam what the west needs to know" on DVD.
Copy it and send to the teachers and all that you know.
The fight back is in the hans of each one of us.
at December 11, 2006 4:52 AM
The UK is doomed.
See what happens when you allow Muslims into your government?
We will be next if we dont watch who is elected.
And oh by the way, a Picture of the Muslim Prophets? Does that include Mohammed?
I thought that there was a law that no one should exhibit any picture of Mohammed.
Is this a change to suit their religion?
Whats next conversion in the classroom? It wouldnt take much to say the Shahadda!
Posted by: terise at December 11, 2006 5:00 AM
Who is to blame for this sort of RUBBISH ?...
Who is spending £ Billions of UK tax payers money to build mosques, fund islamic schools and islamic "associations" in the UK and elsewhere i.e. pakistan and afganistan ?...
This IDIOT...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/694229.stm
at December 11, 2006 5:02 AM
I was a little concerned about the authenticity of this report because the "Daily Express" didn't seem to have anything. But during my search I did find this:
http://www.metronews.co.uk/news/article/0/603_packs_aim_to_end_racist_misunderstanding.html
It appears this story goes back to May 2005. There are pictures of the boxes; they look BIG!
Imagine young kids each getting one of these at school, it would seem like Christmas came early.
It's amazing what lengths muslims will go to to indoctrinate our children, while our so-called leaders and authorities sit back and let it happen.
Maybe we should have an international suicide day for all western countries so we can all just kill ourselves instead of enduring the slow death we seem to be witnessing.
Posted by: TimTang at December 11, 2006 5:03 AM
"I trust that Muslim students are issued a cross, a Bible, an icon of Jesus, and the like"
God forbid! They would end up pissing on them.
Posting the following link which is certainly not off topic, considering it is about the state of education in India, ruled over by uneducated and often illiterate dunces.
Clears the myth propagated by media about its "superpower" potential. What India has achieved by its "reservations & appeasements" policies.
Also because whenever any Indian "scientist" is denied visa or blanket " transfer of nuclear technology" is not forthcoming, knee jerk reactions prone Indian majorities spit out "racism". Thank God, it is written by an Indian:
http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/12/10/liberalize-the-indian-education-sector/#more-660
at December 11, 2006 6:00 AM
I can assure you that the people of the UK will not stand for this for much longer.
We are sick of this sort of thing day after day. Sick of our heritage being sold down the line by trendy politicians on some sick agenda.
We are also sick of endless immigration (mostly by Moslem's). We are however sick of the fact that anyone who stands up against any of this, is immediately branded a racist.
We have had for the last thirty or fourty odd years, endless erosion of our own culture. The last Conservative government ("republican equivalent" for our US friends) was as bad. They over 18 years granted seemingly endless control to the PC police. There are numerous apologists, some such as Galloway who has previously been a Dhimmi of the year nominee. Then his friend the mayor of London "Red Ken" Livingstone. They are but a few. Local government is riddled with these trendy liberal PC apologists who would sell our country down the line. These people are not elected, they are employees. We need to elect some politicians with the guts to stand up for Britain, and represent the majority who have had enough of this nonsense. Britain will only be an Islamic state over the dead bodies of millions of true Brits. This will never happen, we have had enough, Drink in any pub, chat with people at work, on a bus or train and you will hear the same story, we have had enough of this! The trouble is our elected government and the media is not yet singing from the same hymn sheet. I am convinced it will not be long before the "religion of peace" brings another terrorist outrage to the UK, Then even more real Brit's will be outraged and demand an end to allowing this scourge of Islam to further invade our country and culture.
Rule Britannia!!
at December 11, 2006 6:01 AM
Brilliant. Da'wah disguised as multiculturalism.
And where better that in the shools, at the age of seven to eleven.
Posted by: pr126 at December 11, 2006 6:10 AM
from above:
Perhaps the Church of England, some Orthodox patriarchs, or the Vatican would like to provide some Bibles, rosaries, candles, crosses and crucifixes, models and posters of some cathedrals, pictures of icons of Jesus and the apostles, stories of lives of the saints, etc, etc. It'd be instructive to see the moslem reactions to that.
I will wager you do not see the items listed above being used in Islamic schools to promote cutural awareness.
BAN MULSIM IMMIGRATION NOW!!
Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 11, 2006 6:33 AM
Pigtails not veils ...thanks!
Bob_bournemouth I hope you are right!
Commonwealth countries and the US unite!
Get rid of this cancer on the world before it is too late.
If our governments won't do it - we must.
If the French peasants did it in 1789 surely we can,,and they had no bread and no internet. (lol!)
at December 11, 2006 7:08 AM
bob_bornemouth says:
"We are however sick of the fact that anyone who stands up against any of this, is immediately branded a racist."
I stood up against this and was investigated under my employer's discipinlary procedure for racial abuse. They finally found that there was no case to answer to. As it was actually me who was receiving the racial abuse.
They tried to brush over everything by saying that what happened was just jokes about my family background and could be classed as a bit of banter. I am now pursuing a case for religious and racial Discrimination but will have to wait until the spring to find out if I win my case.
No one should have to accept Dhimmi status at the hands of meddling PC motivated individuals in a position of power.
The parent's of these children should demand that their children do not go near the above religious objects.It is very easy to manipulate children this young into accepting their faith.
But how many people are willing to fight accusation of racism for defending ones own culture?
at December 11, 2006 7:12 AM
raz
you are not a racist. Islam is not a race.
Stick with it.
My friends think I am like Cassandra of Troy. I don't care. I am not going down without a fight.
Western civilization is worth it - the good, the bad and the ugly of it.
I do not want my future grandchildren wearing burkas and beards.
I am not that young - but I will fight with whatever means I have aginst this plague.
We cannot afford to let our leaders bow to this pressure.
at December 11, 2006 7:19 AM
Muslims don't deserve being treated with kindness or favor.
The treatment of Christian, Hindu or Buddhist minorities in Muslim countries is appalling.
Posted by: rocky at December 11, 2006 7:22 AM
No doubt that bonnie islamic prince muhammad charlie will be too happy to see all british children embrace such alien religion of pieces as Islam- the same one which teaches muslims to kill us kuffirs!!!!!never will my kids be allowed to be present or participate in such evil nazi like dogma.
HOW THE HELL did this indoctrination of british children be tolerated by the british citizens whom are Christians.
Ban Islam, Ban the Koran, make it illegal to teach islam in schools immediately- what happened to separation of religion and state in uk???
This is sick twisted bizaare and clearly attemprt to control a naive childs minds, protest loud and long and very visibly
and sack whoever allowed this garbage to infiltrate our most vulnerable citizens- our children.
Why arent christians out in the streets mobilising and protesting on parliament.
This is insanity from the "political correct " appeaser to jihadism and islamofascism islamics who are using so called education to get kids indoctrinated against most parents wishes.
Any school which allows this I suggest that all parents withdraw their children and sent them to home study and be educated at home, would be far better than allowing their kids minds to be indoctrinated with such evil satanic cultic indoctrination.
I would never allow one single child of mine to be thus attempted to be indoctrinated. I would send them to the private schools of Anglicans and Catholicism immediately or home educate them away from such evil.
Stop the madness and boycott and protest any school or organisation bringing this in. Stop the madness and use your voices before it is too late if you do not stop this cancer of indoctrination then we are doomed.
at December 11, 2006 7:51 AM
BAN MUSLIM IMMIGRATION NOW
Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 11, 2006 8:15 AM
The UK is doomed.
See what happens when you allow Muslims into your government?
We will be next if we dont watch who is elected.
So tell me the names of these Muslims in my Government...........I don't know of any...........but you must tell us their names since it is unknown here
at December 11, 2006 8:50 AM
Voyager have this for starters, there are others!
Labour MP Mohammed Sawar ( Britain 's first Muslim MP - Glasgow) was the subject of a major News of the World investigation a few years ago into bribery and corruption. Despite this, the massive Muslim population in his constituency keeps him safely in his seat.
Posted by: raz at December 11, 2006 9:13 AM
"Despite this, the massive Muslim population in his constituency keeps him safely in his seat.
Posted by: raz "
I have heard there are more, and some in the house of Lords also.
Maybe it is time to get rid of the monarchy?
The Nazi Duke of Windsor back in the '30's and now Charles being a tad dubious in his religious/political leanings.
Charles is supposed to hold the title, Defender of the Faith - one day. He wants to be defender of faiths - true dhimmi!So ambiguous.
Posted by: Gramfan at December 11, 2006 9:27 AM
Voyager have this for starters, there are others!
Labour MP Mohammed Sawar ( Britain 's first Muslim MP - Glasgow) was the subject of a major News of the World investigation a few years ago into bribery and corruption. Despite this, the massive Muslim population in his constituency keeps him safely in his seat.
He is NOT in the Government
Maybe it is time to get rid of the monarchy?
The Nazi Duke of Windsor back in the '30's and now Charles being a tad dubious in his religious/political leanings.
We've been there and done that back in 1649 and have no interest in doing that again. Edward VIII was removed and not just because he married a weird American woman
Personally I'd get rid of the US Supreme Court
at December 11, 2006 9:31 AM
"We want to ensure that every schoolchild has access to high quality Islamic resources in their schools." Colin Manning, head teacher of North Reddish Junior School in Stockport, which has only four Muslim pupils, said: "The future is in the hands of young people.
Look, you younger Brits better get a clue and fast from your parent's generation!
You are in BIG, BIG, trouble!
And "Catholic Ireland" is fast becoming "Islamic Ireland!"
Just what ARE you people thinking? ARE YOU THINKING????
at December 11, 2006 9:56 AM
According to Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), resource packs include:
http://www.mcb.org.uk/booksforschools.php#3
What does a resource pack contain?
A resource pack consists of:
* Four user friendly, child orientated projects
* Six objects/artefacts in common use by Muslim children in various parts of the world
* Two audio visual items (CD and a Video)
* Seventeen children's books and booklets
* Two card model kits
* Four posters
* The projects are: Folder 1: Introducing the Qur'an
* Folder 2: Id-ul-Adha and the Hajj
* Folder 3: Prayer, Fasting and Id-ul-Fitr
* Folder 4: Islam Through the Arts
* The objects/artefacts are: Compass (used to locate the direction of Makkah for Prayers)
* Hijab (head scarf worn by girls and women)
* Ihram (two pieces of white cloth worn by men during the Hajj pilgrimage)
* Prayer cap (often worn by boys and men when offering Prayers)
* Prayer mat (often used when offering daily prayers).
* Rehal (wooden Qur'an stand)
* The audio visual items are: Expressions of Faith (CD)
* Wafa's Eid (video with accompanying booklet and poster)
* The books and booklets are: A Caring Neighbour
* A Gift of Friendship
* Colouring Book 2: The Arts of the Muslim World
* Dawud Wharnsby Ali
* Dear Diary
* English Translation of Holy Quran
* Islam: Beliefs and Teachings
* Muslim Child
* My Id-ul-Fitr
* Ramadan
* Seeing Things More Clearly
* Stories from the Muslim World
* Tell Me About Hajj
* Tell Me About Muhammad
* The Colour of Home
* The Greatest Stories from the Quran
* The Meat Eating Vegetarian
* The card model kits are: The Holy Ka'bah
* Mosque
* The posters are: 5 Basic Duties of Islam
* Sacred Places
* Prophets of Allah
* How to make Wudu and Salah
These resource materials open up a range of possibilities including use of stories, songs, games, role play and art to facilitate a rich and varied learning experience. You can read more about items in the pack by clicking here.
http://www.mcb.org.uk/bfs_resources.php
at December 11, 2006 10:05 AM
UNfrigginBELIEVABLE!!!!
Posted by: americanmadestrat at December 11, 2006 10:32 AM
I was born in England and came to live in America when I was twelve years old. Looks like I was saved. My children born here were. This 3X3 Indoctrination Box must be crushed. Disgusting and goes against all and everything British. I am ashamed. But liberals there are like liberals here...........jerks with no clue to reality. That reality is the conversion of all people to islam or death. Period. Don't the Brits get it? Makes me sick.
Posted by: Truthseeker at December 11, 2006 10:47 AM
Sir Iqbal Sacranie, of the MCB, said: "We believe education is the key to creating a vibrant and understanding society."
Read: We believe indoctrination by your PC government of children too young to realise they are being brainwashed, is the key to creating an islamic society.
Posted by: DaveMate at December 11, 2006 10:53 AM
This is no surprise because there is an unholy alliance at work in the UK;
1)the hard left believe that they can use the Muslim vote to obtain power.
2)Many in business want unlimited immigration to keep labour costs down.
3) the chattering class liberals also want cheap labour to run their wine bars and smart restaurants.
4) The secularlists think that they can also use the Muslims to destroy Christianity in the UK
5) all these groups are incredibly jealous and full of virulent hatred for Americans and Jews.
Saudi money is backing this joint campaign to destroy Britain, and most Brits want a peaceful life even if it under Islamic rule. They are idiots but they have lost the will to fight for anything after 30 years of liberal education and a biased media. They have been told for so long that everything evil in the world is the fault of the USA,Israel and the UK that they believe it.
Our education system goes from bad to worse as university departments in science and languages are closed due to lack of funds while schools of Islamic studies expand at a rapid rate.
The irony is that these bleeding heart liberals will be the first to complain about the restrictions of a sharia state.
Litvinenko-convert to Islam- radioactive material-Chechens!
I wonder if Britain has gone crazy not to realise the connection.
at December 11, 2006 10:55 AM
bob_bournemouth:
Americans want to believe that is the case regarding the UK. But if Britons are really "fed up", what are they going to do about it?
The historical facts are that Dhimmis have complained throughout history.
But doing something and speaking out is a different matter. Outside of the smallest handful of writers in the UK - who is doing this?
at December 11, 2006 10:56 AM
The compass is a nice touch, something a child will enjoy playing with and will then associate these pleasurable times with islam. Multiculturalism has struck at the very basis of this country. Why is it that the "ordinary folk" can see the deception but the politicians do nothing for fear of being called racist or god forbid islamophobic. Islam has seen the chink in the armour that PC ideology has given them and are expoiting it with every ounce of their ability.
For example:-
http://www.walthamstowguardian.co.uk/display.var.1068019.0.teacher_goes_hungry.php
Posted by: DaveMate at December 11, 2006 11:08 AM
What do the people in the UK think about what is going on?
Posted by: Borg at December 11, 2006 11:41 AM
"We want to ensure that every schoolchild has access to high quality Islamic resources in their schools." Colin Manning, head teacher of North Reddish Junior School in Stockport, which has only four Muslim pupils, said: "The future is in the hands of young people.
This School is closing on 31-Aug-2008 so he is playing the game so he gets a nice new job
It is a dump school so the children will be very unimpressed
Posted by: Voyager at December 11, 2006 12:40 PM
So tell me the names of these Muslims in my Government...........I don't know of any...........but you must tell us their names since it is unknown here
Posted by: Voyager at December 11, 2006 08:50 AM
Besides Mohammed Sarwar, who swore allegiance to the Queen on the Koran on being elected to Parliament, Muslims in politics include Khalid Mahmood, MP for Perry Barr and Lord Bhatia, a former trustee of Oxfam.
Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 11, 2006 12:44 PM
Disgusting as this is, the compass got me thinking if there were websites that tell the obedient which direction to face. I googled it and came up with one site (http://muslim-canada.org/qibla.html) which actually stated:
"582. (f) If and when a Muslim lands on the moon, it will obviously not be possible to face the earthly Ka'bah in the service of prayer; nor to follow the sun's rising, passing the meridian and setting on Earth. What I humbly submit to the Muslim jurists is to construct a Ka'bah on the moon, at the point which would be face to face with the earthly Ka'bah, during equinox time, during a full moon night when our satellite is just above Mecca. That is, a bit North of the centre of the face of the moon that we see. I think that would lie in the region named "Ocean of Tranquillity". I am personally so much the more convinced of this solution, since the Ka'bah is not confined to the building of the ten odd yards high, but also what is above in the atmosphere up to the heaven."
A Kaa'ba on the Moon? Now I've heard it all.
Posted by: redshirt at December 11, 2006 12:52 PM
Hopefully that box of trash goes right into the trash when it arrives from the Ministry of Truth.
Posted by: jsla at December 11, 2006 12:52 PM
(Headquartered in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, keeper of the 'holy' places...)
Posted by: jsla at December 11, 2006 12:53 PM
n Germany they banned religious symbols altogether because of the muslim headscarf.
Not so,
North-Rhine Westphalia became the eighth of Germany's 16 federal states to ban hijab in public schools.................The Central Council of Muslims in Germany said the new law does not treat all religions as equal, banning only the hijab and not the Christian Cross or other religious symbols.
The constitutional court, Germany's highest tribunal, ruled in July 2003 against a decision by the Baden-Wuerttemberg state to forbid a Muslim teacher from wearing hijab in the classroom.
But it said Germany's 16 states could issue new legislations to ban the Muslim headscarf if they believe it would influence children.
A number of states, including Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Saxony, Saxony-Anhalt and Thuringia, still allow hijab at schools.
Others, including Baden-Wurttemberg, Saarland and Lower Saxony, ban teaching staff in state schools from wearing symbols that express religious, political, or ideological affiliation, including hijab.
Education is a State responsibility in Germany and there is no Central Ministry as in Great Britain where Education is controlled from London
at December 11, 2006 12:55 PM
Besides Mohammed Sarwar, who swore allegiance to the Queen on the Koran on being elected to Parliament, Muslims in politics include Khalid Mahmood, MP for Perry Barr and Lord Bhatia, a former trustee of Oxfam.
Posted by: exsgtbrow
But they are NOT in Government
Posted by: Voyager at December 11, 2006 12:56 PM
Maybe the Muslims are not Prime Ministers, but they certainly are in government postitions. Government has more than one level. Parliament,MP,Trustees are all government positions, and there are certainly more Muslims in positions of authority and certainly several Muslim sympathizers within the Government.
You would be incorrect in an assumption that no Muslims are in the ranks of the British Government.
You are committing suicide if you do not know where the enemy lies.
Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 11, 2006 1:09 PM
Nope, sorry, this is plain old conversion being done on public grounds probably using public funds. If they really wanted to "educate" then a few books would be enough.
Posted by: Scorpius at December 11, 2006 1:12 PM
There are currently two Muslim members of parliment and one who is a member of the European parliment, meanwhile, five muslims have been appointed as peers.
In addition Muslim participation has expanded and 160 Muslim local councilors (153 Labor, 6 Liberal Democrat, and 1 Conserative) were elected in 1996, BY 2001 this figure had risen to 217.
Muslim participation in all levels of government continue to thrive.
Call it slow jihad if you will.
Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 11, 2006 1:19 PM
anyone in doubt about the british government especially my own countrymen and women go to www.faithfreedom.org read all about the terrorists and the government of the u.k.
try to get onto aol message board war on terror, we on there try to tell the public what is really going on, but we are up against the friends of p.c. cultural marxism.
i'm afraid if we can't get through to our folk at home we are lost, but hey! there are lots of us trying so don't give up on us yet awhile.
we are emailing the head teacher that has incorperated this cult into the teaching of our children and the kits will be returned to the schools and set alight.
islam has pushed and pushed everytime a little more, we have weak politicians that appease so the people are saying thus far and no further.
what can anyone expect with a cabinet full of ex marxists...i don't believe in ex....
at December 11, 2006 1:28 PM
If you want to see what a Cultural Marxist government does to free speech and the liberty of the individual, look no further than the 'United Kingdom' (formerly of Great Britain).
Since the coming to power in 1997 of the New Labour Government, the Cultural Marxists masquerading as democrats have spent the last 9 years imposing their PC agenda on every aspect of public life.
The above is only the latest in a long line of measures designed to eradicate the last vestiges of native English identity within this country, and to impose a rigidly humanist worldview from the cradle to the grave.
Posted by: Alfred of Wessex at December 11, 2006 1:49 PM
"We now have over 800 schools using them."
__________________________
Ok, avoiding a previous mistake in a previous post: I'm just going to say... WHAT ARE THEY (the school leaders)THINKING???!!!
In the States if we even tried to MENTION about handing out a Bible in class; we would be in trouble.
Good grief.
Posted by: Monkeywho at December 11, 2006 1:54 PM
Off topic:
Islam Based on Epileptic Prophecies, says Book From Iran-Native Neuropsychologist
Posted by: ummahnewslinks at December 11, 2006 2:18 PM
How many islam pig schools are teaching their kids about Winston or Maggie!!!!
Posted by: OLD SARGE at December 11, 2006 2:27 PM
http://www.woking.co.uk/news/article/article_id=16980.html
It is strange that they label anyone who objects to this nonsense as an 'extremist'.
at December 11, 2006 2:37 PM
http://usawakeup.org/france.htm?f06d02d8?e9fbf5d0
Posted by: EnglishBlondie at December 11, 2006 2:40 PM
You can have teachmy kid this stuff when you can pry him out of my cold dead hand.
Things like this make me want to join the National Rifle Association.
Posted by: American_Palamite at December 11, 2006 3:43 PM
The future is in the hands of young people.
--- British primary school teacher
Oh no it isn't. The future is in the hands of a complex network of naifs, turncoats, petrodollar junkies, government workers, Marxist politicians, and just plain dumbasses.
By the time these grade school children graduate college, they'll be set to inherit a mess that takes FUBAR beyond all comprehension.
My kids have been taught about the coming day. They know to make good grades, make money, buy remote land, and learn how to handle a gun.
* 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 *
All children should become lawyers when they grow up.
The nascent Moslem rulers will hand out Sharia exemptions for a period of decades, and ya wanna be on the Sharia-exempt list when the time comes.
That means being a lawyer, especially a politically active lawyer.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at December 11, 2006 4:29 PM
To the Concerned Canadian (who also lives in Alberta):
I think the difficulty arises with regard to defining "public" vs "private."
I have an academic text entitled: "Understanding Canadian Schools: An introduction to educational administration." (I have not attended Canadian public schools.) The authors of text on page 10 define "The Meaning of Public Schooling" (authors are Levin and Young). The authors write: "Central to the current rhetoric of education and schooling would be a commitment to the idea that public implies the following:
1) Public accessibility:" that all persons of school age should have a right to free access to schooling.
2) Equal opportunity: that all chilcren should receive equal opportunity to benefit from schooling, regardless of factors such as their culture, gender, ability, and so on.
4) Public FUNDING: that the costs of schooling should be borne by government so that the quality of schooling received by a student is not related to the ability of the student or the parents to pay for that schooling [emphasis mine, J.S].
5) Public accountability: that public schools act in the interests of the public and are answerable to the public for what is taught and for the quality of the experiences provided to students."
Ok, that's their definition of "public." Now, later on, these same authors wrtie about "private schools" (page 153, continuing). The authors state: "All provinces have at least a few private schools. A private school can be defined as a school that is not governed by a school board, and that is selective about whom it admits as students, whether the selection processs is based on grounds of ability, religion, or some other criterion. Students are usually charged tution fees. Mos private schools in Canada are religious in orientation. ... Provincial policies on the funding of private schools vary a great deal....As discussed in Chapter Two, many provinces provide public funds for Catholic schools; the difference is that these schools ar not considered private under the terms of the definition given here." Ok? So, given the above definition, Catholic schools receive public funds (but are not "private" schools, since they're governed by a school board, etc.)
Hope this clarifies matters...
at December 11, 2006 4:30 PM
Ok we need to start a group called BIBLES FOR MUSLIMS and we need to find out all the schools that issued this package and issue a package that is the same for Christian and Jewish traditions as well as all other religions (and if the school paid for these then they must provide these as well) that include a bible and other helpful items. If you go to church you can ask that your congregations donate to this worthy cause to foster understanding. ALL students who received the Muslim package must receive the Christian and Jewish Package. I am going to ask a few people to help me and write some letters and also, I am willing to donate to this cause myself. BIBLES FOR MUSLIMS. Also all Muslim associations should be asked to send these packages to Muslim schools in Muslim countries as gifts. We could also send a bunch of these packages to CIAR and other Muslim groups to hand out for us to foster peace and religious understanding. We must fight fire with fire we need active responses NOW. The time for words is over. Also if they make a prayer room for Muslims Then it is the responsibility of every parent to be sure there is also a Christian and a Jewish and all other religions prayer room too. If not take your school to court for discrimination. ACT NOW! before it is too late. Get on the phone right a letter get to a parent teacher meeting and local board meetings. Believe me folks, that is what the Muslims are doing!!!!!!!
Posted by: Silly at December 11, 2006 4:53 PM
We also need to start a Boycott Muslium site!! And list all the 1,000,000,000 reasons why!
Posted by: Silly at December 11, 2006 4:56 PM
"They forgot the AK-47, bomb vest, detonator, block of semtex, and the rusty head sawing knife." - Pelayo
These things do not belong in an educational pack. I suggest a supplementary pack being distributed which might include
* cardboard model churches plus a box of matches for setting fire to them. Also a Hindue temple made of building blocks that the children can demolish because it hsn't got planning permission,
*a pair of small models of a standing Buddha along with fireworks for the pupils to let of under them. Some terracotta statues of Hindu deities would give the pupils hours of fun, knocking their noses off with small hammers.
* A small sharp blade - in the absence of an expensive sheep, the children could re-enact an eid celebration by slitting the throat of the class gerbil while shouting 'allahu akbar'
*papier mache stones (not too big or too small) would enable the pupils to play at a public stoning. A female pupil (they always seem to be females) could be buried up to her waist in the sandpit, for greater realism.
* a plastic model of a nun, preferably of a nursing order, that pupils can use for target practice with a pop-gun.
I'm sure an imaginitive educationist could think all sorts of other useful instructional materials.
Posted by: wallyUK at December 11, 2006 9:44 PM
exsgtbrown and Voyager, you're both right on the Muslims in Government dispute.
In British English the word Government refers to what Americans would call the executive branch or administation. By that token Voyager is correct - there are no Muslim members of the British Government.
Americans would use the term Government for all three branches. As there are four Muslim MPs and a few Muslims in the House of Lords. If you include the legislative branch into the term Government then exsgtbrown is correct also.
Hope that clears up any confusion.
Posted by: DM Andy at December 12, 2006 7:51 AM
And very soon they will be issuing the newly-Islamic headmasters of these same primary schools swords to ensure that all students at these primary schools "get with the program."
Posted by: pythagoras at December 12, 2006 3:28 PM
slow learners are called lefty or two fingers Amed.
Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 12, 2006 4:07 PM
we must understand islam,im sorry but i understand enough about this religion of peace.if i want my children to learn about religion i will take them to a place of worship,i pay my taxes for my children to learn to read and write.GREAT BRITAIN AWAKE
Posted by: the covenanter at December 12, 2006 6:30 PM
wallyUK
09.44 11 Dec. Good post.
I wish someone would put such a pack together and send it to our idiot MP's for a start.
Posted by: Fred at December 12, 2006 7:22 PM
the covenanter,
Schools in the UK are mandated by the Education Act 1944 (passed by Churchill's National government), Education Reform Act 1988 (by Thatcher's third government) and Education Act 2000 (by Blair's first government) to provide religious education to all school children.
At least in my experience, RE was about teaching children the bare facts about a variety of religions, I remember a few weeks discussing Native American religion when I was about 14. Certainly it's not about indoctrination, nothing like the Bible Study classes and Sunday school I was doing weekly.
Yes, the covenanter, you have a good point that schools have no reason to teach about religion, but it's the law that they do.
at December 12, 2006 8:16 PM
Now that's what I call crazy!!! Why would the government pay for that? Are there really that many Muslims!? This is a Christian country isn't it??
Posted by: scotgirl at December 13, 2006 8:47 AM
Why would the government pay for what, scotsgirl? I assume the funding for the packs is coming from the Saudis as that's their thing, certainly the schools (ie the taxpayer) would not be paying for them.
Posted by: DM Andy at December 13, 2006 7:08 PM
Covenanter:
"we must understand islam,im sorry but i understand enough about this religion of peace.if i want my children to learn about religion i will take them to a place of worship,i pay my taxes for my children to learn to read and write.GREAT BRITAIN AWAKE"
Absolutely.
at December 14, 2006 7:06 AM
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