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"Not only will he learn about the culture by wearing traditional Muslim clothing and praying five times a day, but 'Also going without pork for 30 days, that's going to be rough but we'll make do,' said Morris." In a public school. Imagine the outcry if the teacher were having his students dress as monks and pray Christian prayers. But we all know, of course, that Christian prayer is not allowed in American public schools. Muslim prayer, obviously, is another story: I was an expert witness a few years ago on a case in California that challenged exercises such as these. We lost.
"Living as Muslim," by Kelly Creswell for WHSV.com, with thanks to Cindy:
The Spotswood High School students are researching the Muslim culture and finding out how much no one really knows about this culture that is sometimes is negatively stereotyped by the public."What's the first thing that comes to your mind when I say Islam?" said Casey Morris.
"Iraq," a fellow student replied.
That's what Casey Morris hopes to eliminate through his research project, the stereotypes the public has about Muslims. Not only will he learn about the culture by wearing traditional Muslim clothing and praying five times a day, but "Also going without pork for 30 days, that's going to be rough but we'll make do," said Morris.
Morris says he is prepared for the criticism that comes along with it.
"Yeah, we're probably going to get some funny looks as we go down the hallway. I'm expecting comments maybe here and there. You know what, I'll be honest, I'll be disappointed if we don’t get some," said Morris.
Members of the Muslim community here in the Valley say many people don't understand the Muslim culture.
"Any effort that tries to educate people and increases to their information can turn very positive towards wider benefit of our society," said Zulfiqar Ishaq, a member of the Muslim community.
Morris' goal is to get a big dose of multiculturalism.
"Alan and I will obviously come out of the deal with a great understanding of the culture with great respect and appreciation for the Islamic culture and hopefully we'll impart some of that upon other people too," said Morris.
"What's the first thing that comes to your mind when I say Muslim?" asked Morris.
"Umm, prayer books?" replied a student.
Morris says he and his classmate will start the actual project January 2 and go for the whole month. They will capture everything on video and put together a documentary not only showing what they learned, but the local attitudes toward Muslims as well.
Posted by Robert at December 31, 2006 6:53 AM
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How much "research" are those people actually going to do? Perhaps someone ought to send them the link for Jihad Watch.
Posted by: Desdinova
at December 31, 2006 7:22 AM
Members of the Muslim community here in the Valley say many people don't understand the Muslim culture.
"Any effort that tries to educate people and increases to their information can turn very positive towards wider benefit of our society," said Zulfiqar Ishaq, a member of the Muslim community.
_______________________
Early on Mo preached the same line of BS when he was weak and in Mecca. He became strong in Medina and became the mass murderer that everyone at Jihad Watch knows.
at December 31, 2006 7:32 AM
"What's the first thing that comes to your mind when I say Muslim?" asked Morris.
"Umm, prayer books?" replied a student.
This is nothing short of brainwashing. Sounds like more liberal indoctrination designed mainly to discredit Christianity. The main aim is not to build tolerance of Islam (in rural Virginia?) but to get kids to question American values.
Will these kids be given any insight into what is inside those prayer books? Even if they find out, they also get the standard deceptive responses beaten into their heads: that divine commands to behead infidels are narrow and specific, that Jihad is an internal struggle against colonialism in your mind, that you don't truly understand it unless it's in Arabic.
Posted by: Greek Fire
at December 31, 2006 7:33 AM
Ok, so we have awards for big hitter Dhimmi of the year (always won by Jimmy Carter, but that's for another time), so why don't we have an institution (of whatever size and relating to a single event) Dhimmi of the year.
Obviously, lots more contenders, but this would be in with a shout.
Posted by: Celsius
at December 31, 2006 8:07 AM
There is a very interesting article entitled "Jihad vs. Education" at http://walidphares.com/ which gives insight into how the West's education system has been infiltrated by Arab money.....and Arab beliefs.
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi
at December 31, 2006 8:09 AM
I wonder what the answer was supposed to be? Since it is the most misunderstood religion.
I guess the aclu won't be stepping into this one except to defend it?
How in the name of teaching can this person demand that the students not eat pork for a month? Or require them to dress like a muslim?
What does a muslim dress like anyway? I think he has a few sterotypes to analyse of his own.
Posted by: Borg
at December 31, 2006 9:07 AM
Maybe one of the students should dress like the pope? Would he notice? I would love to have a video camera rolling to catch his reaction.
Posted by: Borg
at December 31, 2006 9:08 AM
"That's what Casey Morris hopes to eliminate through his research project, the stereotypes the public has about Muslims."
-- from the article above
One more useful idiot with the usual nonsense about "finding out about Islam" and then limiting that finding out to the most obvious and the most innocuous: the rituals of worship, that tell non-Muslims nothing about the effect on Muslims of the texts of Islam. They will get the Shehada (and possibly be asked to recite it), the five daily prayers, the zakat or charity but only toward fellow Muslims, Ramadan and other dietary rituals (what fun not to eat this, not to eat that -- what fun, and how completely worthless as a guide to what Islam is all about, unless the students are told that in Islam, everything is regulated, not merely food, including hairdos, wiping yourself, and of course how to speak to Infidels), and the hajj, with pictures of a million pilgrims as they walk widdershins round the Magic Wonderstone, but no discussion of the Stoning of the Devil and what that is all about.
There will be no real study of the Qur'an, no look at 9.5 or 9.29 or 5.82 or a hundred other key verses. No discussion of why the date of Sura 9 matters (it was either the last or the seccond to last to be composed). No discussion of "naskh" or abrogation. No discussion of the hadith -- why, I'll bet Morris's poor students never find out what the Hadith are, much less be given a website or two where, to their increasing horror, they can read a few hundred of the most important. Nor will the real details of Muhammad's life, or his significance as the Main Actor in Islam, far more real to Muslims than distant and whimsical Allah, and a guide, a Perfect Man, uswa hasana, al-insan al-kamil. None of that.
It will be a guide to nothing and nowhere. Possibly the students will come out radiant that they have "learned all about Islam." Possibly some self-satisfied parents or some ACLU group or some school committee panjandrums will offer self-congratulations all around for this exercise in "dispelling myths" and "ending stereotypes."
And a good time, an idiotically good time, will be had by all.
And nothing of significance will have been learned. Nothing.
Posted by: Hugh
at December 31, 2006 9:44 AM
Who wants to know about Islam? What does it offer any of us?
This is ridiculous!
The more stupid things done in the name of islam - the better! The word has got to get out there.
It should never be seen as a religion worthy of respect. It isn't. It is a death cult. What is wrong with these people who see it as an expression of multi-culti lemming-dom?
OT
Happy NEW YEAR all you wonderful guys!!
at December 31, 2006 9:47 AM
What is wrong with these idiots?
What is wrong with America ?
Since when is a prophet of God involved in mass
murder,robbing,kidnapping rape and child molestation ?
at December 31, 2006 10:04 AM
So whose fault is it that you cant say a Christian prayer in one of your public schools but you can say a Muslim one?
AS a non american I find this COMPLETELY INSANE.
But we can talk about it all day and night if you like.
What are you going to do about it??
Happy New Year.
at December 31, 2006 10:05 AM
Will they be told to recite the shahada as part of their playacting as muslims?
I bet you any amount of money that they will.
Posted by: Voltaire
at December 31, 2006 10:14 AM
Off Topic.
I read the following in the paper on Sunday:
Recently, I was referred over the Internet to a most interesting article. It came in the form of a letter, eloquent, intelligent and well written, addressed to George Bush, president of the United States of America.
The author was another president, Ahmadinejad, of the Republic of Iran.
His theme was the troubling difference between the professions of President Bush to be a follower of Jesus Christ and a believer in justice and democracy, and the actual actions of the governments of sovereign countries, making war in Iraq on a demonstrably false pretext, speaking in favour of democracy, but undermining democratically elected governments when their wises conflict with American policy, and imprisonment and possible torture of captives in defiance of international law in the prison of Guantanamo Bay. In the interests of United States policy, and need for natural resources including oil, governments in Central and Latin America have been plundered of their resources, and the Middle East thrown into turmoil. The American people themselves have been forced to live in terror -- yet the highly suspicious possibility of the involvement of the secret services of the U.S. and Pakistan in the 9/11 disaster has never been followed up with a detailed criminal investigation...[snip, this writer goes on to quote from the prez of Iran]..Zionists feel themselves free to rain missiles on ...civilians in protection of their territory...The United States military, financial and industrial establishment considers itself free to use lies and subversion to take petroleum from wherever it may be found in the earth, and undermine the governments that oppose them...
Now the question-- who wrote the above, hmm? Was it an Islamist? A supporter of Osama bin Laden? NO, no, no. It was written by a lawyer and an assistant priest at the St. Matthias Anglican Church!!
Personally, I don't see any difference between Anglicans and Muslim Jihadists -- they share so much in common! Both wish to destroy the West, that is their goal.
at December 31, 2006 10:54 AM
Will this "student project" include segregation of women from males, seperate entrance/exits for females, seperate classrooms for females, females only with male-relative escort to-from school, or perhaps islam at its "finest" e.g. talibani version where females are banned from any and all "secular" education... Will it include Saudi type sharia "police" to enforce proper behavior by corporal punishments or for worse offenses (theft, carnal behavior outside of marriage,homosexuality, apostasy, etc.), which will garner dismemberment of hands, feet, tongues, public flailing, stoning, beheading (to be seen in the allies home lands every Thursday - maybe the MsM can provide the students with some video of these "entertainment activities")...
Not likely. It will be another typical PC "now-we-feel-good" dhimmi act - eventually bringing forth suicide of Western Civilization.
at December 31, 2006 10:56 AM
Here in Canada i tried to expose the same crap going on in our public schools, not only did I see close to $300'000.00 in my City's Budget for a vague program on Islamophobia, but after several days of researching all the acronyms that lead to other acronyms , I found that if you connected the dots for where the Government money came from and which Religious groups got the money it ended up as a massive web of Muslims based groups hiding behind "Racism" claims to have access to the Tax dollars.
Islam was being taught in the classrooms under the guise of "Racism" and CAIR along with radical Islamic Mosques were the producers of the literature that was sold to the groups using them in the schools , Politicians didn't get a hoot about my uncovering of these facts and the Media wouldn't touch it either, in fact one of the Politicians that directed the money to Islamic Org.'s is now the Mayor of Toronto and another one is a Federal MP in Ottawa.
The $300'000.00 starts off as being filtered through 11 levels of administration to pay for the application of the program and the report I read states clearly that 17 youths ended up
benefitting from what was left of the $300 grand,this case was also of no interest to the RCMP even though they were looking into this exact style of scam for the HRDC program that saw $1 billion dollars pissed away with little account of where the money went.
Just 2 weeks ago a report claimed that 3 more people were arrested for this Tax fraud scam at HRDC , this was just another Billion dollar scam by Liberals and there is still $140 Million missing from a scam to fund 3 election in canada by Chretien and Martin via Kick-Backs from the hand-outs.
Canadian web forums have so many people repeating the Islamophobia lie from CAIR and
actually believe that there are no terrorists in Canada because Jean Chretien said it before an Election and said the staying out of Iraq keeps us safe.
This is the idiot that ran the Country , and very slowly we are seeing Islam creeping into workplaces and Public owned TV channels , Canadians have been fooled , or are just fools to start with , CAIR still demands a Mosque be supplied on campus at McGill U .
Time to stop this madness and enforce the separation of Religion and State , Islam is a Political movement and based on the crap by the first Congressman to be a Muslim I can only predict a domination of the Government by Muslims and not the Pluralism that CAIR claims is in the Quran.
NO ISLAM - KNOW PEACE
at December 31, 2006 10:59 AM
I suspect that there is more to this story. So, Casey has decided he will live as a Muslim for 30 days. Who signed off on his project? Did the kid come up with the idea himself or is a teacher behind the project? Who decided that the local newspaper would be notified before this "project" began on Jan. 2? Lots of high school students do all sorts of science and history projects and their projects never make it to the newspaper. Is Casey another Johnny Jihad Walker Lindh, a convert, with an American name, who is put up to this by leaders at his local mosque? Who will provide the kid a "halal" lunch in case he forgot his P.B. and J. from home? Will a prayer room be provided, along with a prayer rug, for his use during school hours and on school property? Finally, if Spotsy High 10th grader, Mary Eileen, wants to live as a cloistered Carmelite nun for a month, to clear up stereotypes and misunderstandings about living in a cloister, does she have the same permission as Casey to do her project??
Posted by: maryrose
at December 31, 2006 11:45 AM
"Yeah, we're probably going to get some funny looks as we go down the hallway. I'm expecting comments maybe here and there. You know what, I'll be honest, I'll be disappointed if we don’t get some," said Morris.
In other words, I'll be disappointed if my public display of moral grandstanding doesn't generate the appropriate amount of clucking of the tounges from the unenlightened masses.
Christ, dude, play out your attention-whoring psychodrama in some other fashion. If you think you know Islam, you're kidding yourself. You've got a tiger by the tail, here, not some cuddly multiculti feelgood religion. Take a step back and think about your responsibilities as a teacher of young minds.
Posted by: venividivici
at December 31, 2006 11:45 AM
This place doesn't fall under the 9th Circuit Court. Memo to the student body: challenge it again. Hopefully, a court this time will find it unconstitutional.
Another memo to the kids: Plan a major school shooting of those who introduced this course, and announce that they are practicing Jihad along the lines of 9:5, 2:191 and all the rest. Just don't do it on myspace.com
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at December 31, 2006 11:45 AM
Where is the ACLU?
Oh, I forgot. They're only interested in eliminating Christianity.
Posted by: s
at December 31, 2006 11:53 AM
Robert, your post (and Hugh's comments) imply that Morris is the teacher, getting his students to do this.
The videotape makes it clear that Morris is actually a student, and the story suggests that he is the only person to act like a Muslim during this project. It's not clear who came up with the idea, but it doesn't seem unreasonable that Morris himself did. (Now as for who decided to call the local news, that's another story.)
In fact, I see nothing wrong at all with this. Because it will set a precedent that allows any other student to do a similar project. A similar project, where the student, to learn more about the "Muslim culture," reads books by Spencer, Bat Ye'or, Trikovic, and Warraq. And then he can come back and report to his teachers, students, and even the local media what he learned.
Posted by: kamala
at December 31, 2006 11:57 AM
I have my head in my hands, and I am weeping.
/only temporary, I will become enraged again and stand back up. Lock and load.
at December 31, 2006 12:00 PM
Morris says he and his classmate will start the actual project January 2 and go for the whole month. They will capture everything on video and put together a documentary not only showing what they learned, but the local attitudes toward Muslims as well.
The little t*rd is hoping for "islamophobia", he is a naive fool. (With lefty parents IMO)
at December 31, 2006 12:17 PM
Hugh,
...why, I'll bet Morris's poor students never find out what the Hadith are, much less be given a website or two where, to their increasing horror, they can read a few hundred of the most important...
If only there weren't countless more dangerous or especially bizarre examples. If only.
Holding Fast to the Qur'an and Sunnah
Volume 9, Book 92, Number 392: Narrated Sa'd bin Abi Waqqas:The Prophet said, "The most sinful person among the Muslims is the one who asked about something which had not been prohibited, but was prohibited because of his asking."
"So feel free to ask any questions you wish, kids, after you say the shahada and do the fajr."
at December 31, 2006 12:26 PM
Where are the parents. I would suggest taking your kids on a month-long vacation. At that impressionable young age, they are susceptible to indoctrination. If local mosques and imams are involved, be afraid, very afraid.
Posted by: sonomaca
at December 31, 2006 12:42 PM
They will capture everything on video and put together a documentary not only showing what they learned, but the local attitudes toward Muslims as well.
Hopefully in the frames of this video we will find something dissimilar enough from the prior cases to gain a court victory.
Meanwhile, I will do my best to propagate those "local attitudes" amongst those available to me.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen
at December 31, 2006 12:49 PM
Should one of these students blow up the principal's office or behead a teacher, he should not be punished in any way. After all, he was just following Morris' instructions and getting into the Muslim mindset.
Posted by: Provoslavni
at December 31, 2006 1:07 PM
Ah jeez, this fella needs to be taught a lesson that theological experiments are not his turf in public schools. HANDS OFF OUR KIDS.
Otherwise, the parents are going to come up with some creative 'experiments' on how to deal with the likes of Casey Morris.
Posted by: justamomof4
at December 31, 2006 1:13 PM
In no way should this school district permit this insulting, utterly invasive experiment to take place.
This naïve con is way out of his(her) league.
If permitted to proceed with this 'experiment' my reaction is to DEMAND EQUAL time and emphasis on the faith system of EVERY SINGLE STUDENT IN THE DISTRICT - the entire STATE - hell, this ENTIRE NATION.
On every desk in the participating classes I would expect to find and witness full use of genuine copies of the Bible and Chumash/Torah with hands on experiences with Baptism, Communion, Mikva, . . .ok, I won't go so far as physical example of the Brit milah ("covenant of circumcision") - but you get the picture.
If this school district permits this, then demand full reciprocity and full open discussion exposing the reality of how much of Islam is stolen and distorted theology.
Otherwise this is a failed experiment as it displays the reality of the intentionally LIMITED pluralism it advocates.
This individual should get the controversy (s)he so desires . . .and pay dearly.
BTW, school districts often hand out forms requiring parental signature/permission, to use 'images' of their children for publication.
Apparently there are legal ramifications for this. . . perhaps BEAGLE or one of JW's legal eagles can clarify whether this permission is sought for excluding/omitting claim to any financial (or other) enrichments gained from use of student images.
Since Casey clearly states (s)he will seek recognition from this 'experiment' by 'putting together a documentary, (s)he expects some gain (financial or otherwise).
Put the legal screws to this in any way possible.
Posted by: justamomof4
at December 31, 2006 1:57 PM
It's hard to calculate the legal ramifications of the documentary and establishment of religion issues. The Establishment Clause is one of the best examples of court decisions leading to an impenetrable barrier of conflicting legalisms which are nearly impossible to apply to fact patterns.
I'd summarize it this way: don't let your children participate in these types of exercises. If the school wants to grade your children down for not participating - SUE!
Posted by: Beagle
at December 31, 2006 2:20 PM
If this isn't an "endorsement" of Islam, I'm having trouble coming up with an example which would fit.
It's time to privatize all education and give generous education stamps to the poor. Then parents will be able to choose which type of heavy-handed indoctrination they prefer. I, for one, don't want any education on Islam which carefully ignores any of the relevant issues in today's world. If they teach Islam without the words "sharia" or "jihad" I'd argue it's da'wa.
Posted by: Beagle
at December 31, 2006 2:25 PM
Outrageous! I will write a letter to the local ACLU demanding action.
Posted by: Kafir Nonbeliever
at December 31, 2006 2:27 PM
Time for a democracy lesson:
Why was the Third Reich and the Holocaust possible? Because noone stood up and said "NO", at least not in significant numbers. People were intimidated on the whole. If only 20 or 30% of the Germans would have said "NO" at the right time, the whole Nazi-Bullshit wouldn't have been possible.
So it's up to the children, their parents should tell them, if they are disriminated against, it's time to stand up and simply say "NO" and demand equal treatment for every religion. Say it loud and clear. And then leave the room. If enough students do this, the whole project would be easily stopped. If the school would take any measures against the students, it would be time for an Anti Discrimination Lawsuit. I know that many students can easily be intimidated because of possible problems to get a place at a university because of such non-conformance, but hey, it's about democracy, every kid, that stands up and says NO, is a little hero.
at December 31, 2006 2:42 PM
Will there be circumcision of females, a few "honor" beatings, (they'll save the killings for the advanced class,) and maybe one of those processions where everybody slices their forehead open with a sword? Jeepers, creepers! Has anyone in this high school ever dealt with teenagers before? They can be the nastiest little monsters so please, let's teach them about this political system with the superiority complex, give them the tools to make other's lives miserable, (as if they aren't already completely adept at that,) and turn them loose on an unsuspecting public.
Really good idea.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader
at December 31, 2006 2:45 PM
"Yeah, we're probably going to get some funny looks as we go down the hallway. I'm expecting comments maybe here and there
From what I make of the article there will be two students, Casey and Alan, doing this "project" together. Yes, I bet they will get some funny looks, when
(1) they begin raping the girls in the class, with the excuse that the half-naked sluts were asking for it with their provocative dress; OR
(2) they then stone the girls for fornication OR
(3) if one of them has a 9 yr old sister, the other can marry her, and consummate the marriage, just following the example of the prophet, the perfect man, doncha know? OR
(4) if one of them has an older sister who has gone on dates with her boy-friend alone, he can kill her for bringing dishonor on the family.
Yes, I'm sure it will be a "learning experience for all involved.
at December 31, 2006 3:27 PM
From article:
"What's the first thing that comes to your mind when I say Islam?" said Casey Morris."Iraq," a fellow student replied.
That's what Casey Morris hopes to eliminate through his research project, the stereotypes the public has about Muslims…
Yeah, after hearing all that news about the U.S. not being able to stop the “sectarian violence” between “Shi’ites” and “Sunnis”, we now learn that Iraq and Islam have nothing to do with each other.
at December 31, 2006 4:33 PM
Good one, Steve!!
What's the first thing that comes to mind when someone mentions Islam? Well after hanging out here for over 2 1/2 years I'm sorry to say that the first thing that comes to mind are the faces of the lovely Eqyptian Catholic girls whose pictures are posted on www.mychristianblood.com, you know, the ones who were kidnapped by Muslim guys because the girls refused to date them and were engaged to Christian men, so the Muslim guys kidnapped them, drugged them and then forced them to sign papers saying they "chose" to convert to Islam, were married off and their families haven't heard from them since. And when the families went to the police they got no where since the police are all Muslim and in cahoots with the crooks who are doing the kidnapping.
Ah, Islam! Ain't it a grand old philosophy? Those kids at the high school in Virginia would be much better off studying here rather than learning MORE bad habits under the auspices of Islam.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader
at December 31, 2006 4:38 PM
Allowing muslim prayer in public school and not any other religious prayer in school is downright discrimination. Those schools who support such ideas should be sued. The teachers should be fired and parents need to stand up for what is right.
Islam brainwashes the youth. The religion pretends to be peaceful but it is not. Unlike Christianity and Buddhism, Islamic verses are full of hate. All you got to do is read the verses.
How can any public school support a religion who was founded by a pedophile??
Posted by: callmeinfidel
at December 31, 2006 4:44 PM
I see in my haste I took Casey to be a teacher. Well, mutatis mutandis, and stuff like that, and the points made still stand.
Posted by: Hugh
at December 31, 2006 4:54 PM
It's nowhere near the perfect novel on such issues, nor is there a perfect novel in any case, but Prayers for the Assassin reassures me that some people (other than familiar Internet personalities) understand the nature of what we're up against.
A "book" mentioned repeatedly in the novel set in the hypothetical "Islamic Republic" stretching from Seattle to Maine is titled:
How the West Was Really Won: The Creation of the Islamic States of America through the Conquest of Popular Culture
Teaching children, encouraging, or allowing them to act like idealized little PC Muslims in public schools has to be the worst idea I've heard in a long time. Muslim converts are the most likely to become jihadis, and non-Arabs the most sought after. The French are having fits trying to keep track of their radicalized new Muslims. This is the only war the United States has ever fought in which it's possible to switch sides in the average suburban neighborhood.
Posted by: Beagle
at December 31, 2006 6:05 PM
I am so glad that my chillins are out of our pathetic public schools systems. My grandson will be home schooled, or else I will help pay for a private school. I have an idea for a solution to our problems, but I cannot tell y'all any of it.
The idea that I can tell you about is for people in these districts to stop paying property taxes. That idea of mine will not work because most mortgages have the property tax taken with the m
Posted by: Pelayo
at December 31, 2006 6:18 PM
I am so glad that my chillins are out of our pathetic public schools systems. My grandson will be home schooled, or else I will help pay for a private school. I have an idea for a solution to our problems, but I cannot tell y'all any of it.
The idea that I can tell you about is for people in these districts to stop paying property taxes. That idea of mine will not work because most mortgages have the property tax taken with the m
Posted by: Pelayo
at December 31, 2006 6:18 PM
Someone please, please, please, forward this to Virgil Goode!
And while I'm here, Happy New Year to all!
Posted by: eve_anne_gelical
at December 31, 2006 6:21 PM
I am so glad that my chillins are out of our pathetic public schools systems. My grandson will be home schooled, or else I will help pay for a private school. I have an idea for a solution to our problems, but I cannot tell y'all any of it.
The idea that I can tell you about is for people in these districts to stop paying property taxes. After thinking about it I realize that it will not work because most mortgages have the property tax taken with the monthly payment and placed in escrow, that means the homeowner will be required to stop mortgage payments. That idea will not work, so back to my secret idea, the one I can't talk about.
Posted by: Pelayo
at December 31, 2006 6:23 PM
Who of us non-Muslims have studied Islam out of pure intellectual curiosity? I bet none except Robert and Hugh. I know more about Islam than I ever, ever wanted to know. Learning about Islam is useful only to learn how to defeat them. Our children are merely being indoctrinated into believing the Religion of Peace lie. We have to stop it by any means possible.
Posted by: Pelayo
at December 31, 2006 6:33 PM
Spotswood High School is in the Shenandoah Valley, which historically has ties with the pacifistic Mennonites/Church of the Brethren. As a result, one if more likely to find prayer in the public schools in the Valley.
In recent years, the area has acquired a substantial Muslim population, I think. You can bet that they been working to emphasize that "Islam is a religion of peace." And further ocnsidering the numbers of hippies in the Valley, it's no wonder that the program at Spotswood is well received.
I wonder if the principal is using the handbook from the Council on Islamic Education?
Posted by: Always On Watch
at December 31, 2006 7:31 PM
I hope the blowhards who post here will put their money where their mouth is and send money to Rep. Goode, and organizations like StandWithUs.com, which works to counter anti-Israeli and pro-Islamic propaganda in the schools, media, and libraries (I bet you didn't know that librarians, as well as teachers, are overwelmingly far left).
In fact, libraries are stocked with lots of Saudi-funded Jihadist propaganda (given free), but try finding "Truth About Muhammad" or "America Alone".
Folks, wake up, or there will be lots of John Walker Lindh's and Adam Gadahn's walking around (especially among the spiritually confused and/or neglected offspring of liberal baby boomers).
Posted by: sonomaca
at December 31, 2006 7:34 PM
I hope the "blowhards who post here" will give some of their money to Jihad Watch. Refer to the JW homepage for donation instructions.
Time is running out for 2006. Get on it.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen
at December 31, 2006 8:34 PM
I wonder if the student will learn about properly performing wudu?
http://www.themuslimwoman.com/chooseyourpath/basicguidetoprayer/wudu.htm
Posted by: pak152
at December 31, 2006 9:22 PM
A.O.W.'s insightful comment triggers the issue of adult/faculty mentorship. The student(s) involved may be receiving guidance from someone invested in the pre-determined outcome of this videotaped 'documentary'.
Casey Morris hopes to eliminate through his research project, the stereotypes the public has about Muslims.
Without guidance, Morris and company risk creating a 'mockumentary' . . .based on their own preconceived stereotypes . . .a delicious irony.
Posted by: justamomof4
at January 1, 2007 12:46 AM
What a retard. Oh, I take that back, that is an insult to retards; it's actually totally sick and nothing short of attempting to brainwash kids into accepting Islam, which of course is evil.
Of course, during this PC project, they won't eat pork and they'll wear the garb and stuff, but sure as hell they also won't display the nasty side of Islam which includes beatings, gender segregation, getting the kids to read violent suras and agree with them... etc. In short they'll be showing the best 1% of Islam, which is definitely not representative of it's true nature, so 'learning about Islam' in such a fashion is pointless as a stictly educational effort, but very useful for indoctrination.
If I was a parent and my kid went to a school that decided to do that, my kid would be out of there faster than you could say 'Allahu Ackbar' and transfered to another school. No child should be introduced to such evil.
Posted by: Truthseeker
at January 1, 2007 1:05 AM
It is interesting. I am currently reading Summa Contra Gentiles by Thomas Aquinas; which was written as a summary for use in Spain against the Arab (Muslim) commentary on Aristotle. One, at least from reading the series of books, gets a feeling that in the 1200s there was at least some sort of intelligent dialogue between Muslims and Christians.
Today, reading the daily newspapers, one gets a since that the only Muslim response is of outright ignorant violence, and that the Christian response is a watered-down, flimsy, feel-good push for social unity without sanity.
If I thought that these students, conducting this project, would actually read the Qu'ran, and the four primary-accepted Hadith collections; then perhaps the project would be worth-while. But, this engaging in purely external activities; without any real insight into the internal motivation for these externals actions is missing the point.
I can take a person of the street and show them how to say the Rosary, but if they don't understand the various scenes from the life o Christ that is mediated upon, if they aren't aware of the Scriptures from which these events are derived from; if they do not understand the purpose for which we mediate upon the life of Christ, then saying the Rosary doesn't do tell an outside person much about being Catholic. Like-wise, saying the prayers of a Muslim, will tell you little about Islam in itself.
It's a sad...sad...world at the moment.
Posted by: Monkeywho
at January 1, 2007 3:54 AM
What is all that cross-cultural confusion?
There is no need to understand the Muslim culture in this way.
As offensive as it may be for a Muslim to eat pork, it will be for any Christian or Jewish boy or girl to direct prayers towards a black stone located in a forbidden desert city of the creepy saudi Kingdom.
Enough of such humiliating kowtowing to a primitive doctrine!
Posted by: rocky
at January 1, 2007 5:08 AM
In Virginia? I am shocked! Truly. How sad. Where is my country?
Who are the fools that put up with this brainwashing of their children? Does the rest of the country know about this?
Oh no, sorry they are, we are all sleeping!!
And so drip, drip, drip we will change you.
BTW- I love pork chops as do most Americans. I just had the best PORK CHOPS last night.
at January 1, 2007 6:25 AM
Maybe they'll teach some of prayers and "inner" jihad that everyone's been doing at the Haj.
That is... Pray for your family. Pray for Allah to help Muslim's overcome evil. Pray for the downfall of America the evil satan and Israel its little satan sidekick.
Pray for Iran to amass nuclear arms and hand them out to Muslim neighbors. Pray to eliminate Isreal forever and pray that congress will be burned in the name of Islam.
C'mon, Islam is a religion of peace - what's the harm in a little prayer?
-Stefcho.
at January 1, 2007 10:18 AM
There is more to this than meets the eye. Two boys from a school of over 1300 pupils are to do a project on Islam, and this, despite not even getting a mention on the school web site, makes it onto television before it has even started? I don't think so. Somebody is behind this.
Posted by: Paul
at January 1, 2007 1:44 PM
" Casey Morris"
Obviously it's not his idea- but he's a tool.
For who? The CAIR - who ARE the murderous islamic clerics!
Posted by: allat
at January 1, 2007 1:49 PM
IN RE. TO THE islamic REQUISICION
"Now the question-- who wrote the above, hmm? Was it an Islamist? A supporter of Osama bin Laden? NO, no, no. It was written by a lawyer and an assistant priest at the St. Matthias Anglican Church!!
Personally, I don't see any difference between Anglicans and Muslim Jihadists "
YOu can add the entire christian hierachy - including the jesushits.
People, one thing is the prayer and hopes and yearnings of THE PEOPLE - who invoke The Spirit - The All That IS.
And another is the hiearchy of ANY religion that want TEMPORAL POWER !
I mean to say, religious leaders are really in cahoots with each other - behind the scenes. Otherwise the clerics of the christian church - Benedict would have private meetings with the islamic Turkish imam.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN OPEN MEETING!
Ea. one apportions the populace between themselves.
Now it makes sense why the popiola took the abuse fr the mula (mula= donkey in Sp.)
Posted by: allat
at January 1, 2007 2:00 PM
"Benedict would have private meetings with the islamic Turkish imam."
Corrrection: Would NOT have had private meetings.
at January 1, 2007 2:01 PM
Federal law allows for religious clubs to be formed that operate on public school grounds during NON-INSTRUCTIONAL time, provided that the school allows non-instructional clubs or associations.
That said, if the project is student initiated, then it may not fall under the establishment clause, of course the real test will be when Muslim students wish to recite prayer and such during graduation ceremonies.
Another test would be if the teacher and administrators permit other student initiated project, say for Judaism or Taoism. If the school prohibited those projects then there would be a clear case for a lawsuit. Of course, the prohibition of a student initiated project about Christianity would get not legal traction since Christians don't count.
That said, what you need are some brave and outspoken students and parents to complain at the local school board and some legal backing say from the Christian Legal Society, the American Center for Law and Justice, et al.
Usually under threat of serious legal action, school authorities will back down. Another line of action would be to make it an election issue for the local school board. A well crafted campaign could garner support from both ends of the political spectrum-secularists and the religious right.
All of that said, you can be sure if this crap occured in my kids school district I'd be sending out mass emails and protesting at local school board meetings.
It should also be noted that many mosques supprot "Islamic Awareness" months at most universities across the country. It would be helpful if people mobilized to pass out information sheets with say quotes from the Quran about various topics showing what it actually teaches during these periods. Most universities have a free speech zone which will permit you to distribute free literature.
It is time people stop complaining about things and actually get something DONE. Shock value will inculcate most Americans from the type of propaganda above.
Posted by: American_Palamite
at January 1, 2007 2:48 PM
Two useful sources for people looking for basic information. "The political koran" shows why muslims think they are superior to anyone else.
"The Crucifixion of Jesus - Fact of Fiction?" is a great start to showing how the koran is wrong about Jesus (and by being wrong about something so central is wrong about so much more!)
political koran
http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm?frm=2066&sec_id=2066
http://www.arabicbible.com/islam/crucifixion_of_jesus_christ.htm
Posted by: Buffy
at January 1, 2007 4:06 PM
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Children might be at risk from extremists? If the children go back to their own faith or non-faith, and profess that faith or non-faith, they might be at risk?
Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan could put the child to death for apostasy? This is denial of life and liberty to the child without due process of law. This is a new ground of appeal.
The fact that some foreign governments execute apostates from Islam is a valid basis of saying the child is harmed by this. Their ability to travel to those countries after reverting to their own faith or non-faith is at risk.
Moreover, they might feel fear to revert to their own faith or non-faith. That interferes with their first amendment rights.
from OA comment November 7, 2006 01:07 PM
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Posted by: Old Atlantic
at January 1, 2007 6:00 PM
I thought they banned prayer in school...OOPS, they doesn't apply to Muslims.
I thought schools were to have dress codes....OOPs, that doen't apply to Muslims.
I thought they had codes of conduct in school....OOPs, that doesn't appl to Muslims.
Since the ACLU, the Board of Education, the Teachers Union, and the federal government are not complaining......I smell a conspiracy.
at January 2, 2007 7:55 AM
If you're trying to 'understand' those who practice Islam, reciting the Shahada and keeping away from pork aren't going to get you there.
That's kind of like pretending to be a fashion model by playing dress up.
at January 2, 2007 2:26 PM
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