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"And yet, over the past year or so, the contented Danes have been forced to face both their greatest international crisis since World War II and the rise here of separate Muslim communities where many are unable or unwilling to enter the Danish mainstream."
By Thomas Omestad in US News, with thanks to Twostellas:
COPENHAGEN–This, a recent study concluded, is the happiest country on Earth. With Denmark's cradle-to-grave social welfare, highly regarded healthcare and education, prosperity, and small-country ethnic cohesion, the land that gave us Hans Christian Andersen's fairy tales also excels at producing a good life in reality.And yet, over the past year or so, the contented Danes have been forced to face both their greatest international crisis since World War II and the rise here of separate Muslim communities where many are unable or unwilling to enter the Danish mainstream. The international uproar over publication of 12 prophet Muhammad cartoons in a Danish newspaper triggered violence that left at least 139 people dead, Danish diplomatic outposts torched in Lebanon and Syria, and Danish goods boycotted. Suddenly, Denmark felt dangerously exposed–a country of just 5.4 million people facing the wrath of an Islamic world exceeding a billion people.
The violence outside Denmark ultimately quieted down, though the country's security-threat level remains elevated. At home, the bitter disputes over the cartoons have highlighted an unhealed–and potentially hazardous–rift between the dominant Danes and the Muslim immigrants living in what are being called "parallel societies." Ask Danes and Muslim immigrants alike, and many will say there is something a bit rotten in the Kingdom of Denmark.
The legacy of the cartoon uproar is not all bad. Private efforts at building bridges between Muslims and non-Muslim Danes have accelerated. Secular Danish Muslims condemned the violence overseas and appealed for dialogue. That, say Danes, has encouraged a greater appreciation of the differences–political and otherwise-among Muslims here.
"Time bomb." Still, the cartoon crisis itself did not prompt any basic rethinking of how to integrate Muslims more deeply into Danish society. And the country is now preoccupied with things Muslim. Attention is riveted on any controversy linked to its Muslim residents–so-called honor killings of female relatives, street crime, terrorism probes, unemployment, forced marriages, use of veils, and so on. Denmark is pondering the specter of ever more young Muslims–unemployed and undereducated–finding their identities not as coolly secularized Danes but as fervent or even radical Muslims. "We are sitting on a time bomb," warns Eva Smith, a law professor and racism expert at the University of Copenhagen.
The ferment in Denmark is especially striking because of its progressive traditions, but it also reflects the broader tremors rattling western Europe, where tangled issues of national identity, culture, religion, and security arising from Muslim immigration have bolted to the fore. Old, ethnically grounded societies are being roiled by the presence of Muslim newcomers–or at least by the reaction to them. "There's kind of an unspoken assumption that they're not really Dutch, not really Danes, and so forth," reasons one senior U.S. official who follows the phenomenon. "Europeans are uncomfortable with Islam, and they see it as an alien body in their midst. ... Europe's got a huge problem, and they're just getting their minds around it now."
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Posted by Robert at December 31, 2006 6:42 PM
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Well , this applies to anyone who doesn`t like it where they are ...YOU ARE FREE to leave.
Don`t expect the indigenous population to bend
over backwards for you any longer.
Happy New Year.
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at December 31, 2006 6:56 PM
In one paragraph it says 50% of the Muslims don't work and the real reason is given - welfare is about equal to pay in entry level employment, so why should they?
In another paragraph a 'Palestinian' whines 'we are looked on as parasites...'
Gee, I wonder why?
Posted by: poetcomic1 at December 31, 2006 7:08 PM
Danes are Good , Muslms are Violent , ungrateful , Resentful, Resource absorbing Savages. If a peaceful tolerant society like Denmark can't get these people to be happy or two integrate what does that tell us about Islam?
Just more proof that Muslims don't want to integrate they want to Replace.
Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 31, 2006 7:11 PM
Some Danes argue that evading the impact of immigration is impossible. "Some people want to keep Denmark as a kind of museum," says Helle Stenum, the chairwoman of MixEurope, a pro-integration group. "We are a rich, safe society that is scared." Adds Copenhagen schoolteacher Maia Lisa Petersen as she rushes to a subway station, "These other cultures, other values force us to wake up. ... We can't hide anymore in this nice, perfect little Scandinavian world."
I've heard this one before. Some people seem to think that Muslim immigration is, somehow, a force of nature that cannot be stopped or slowed down, so it might as well be embraced. I have no idea what this argument is based on.
Nor can the Muslim immigrants easily hide in enclaves that insulate them from the culture that surrounds them. They say that the political and media atmosphere has turned against them–particularly since the cartoon crisis.
And here I was, thinking that it was the Muslims that turned againts Denmark, not the other way around. Clearly I was mistaken.
at December 31, 2006 7:23 PM
Before somebody delete my post for unknown reasons I wanted to say:
"Ask Danes and Muslim immigrants alike, and many will say there is something a bit rotten in the Kingdom of Denmark."
I tend to believe the Danes are right and the moslems are whining about nothing, as they constantly do.
Posted by: StillFedUp at December 31, 2006 7:26 PM
Sad, very sad. We must all get adjusted to the reality that, sooner or later, we will be dhimmis.
Posted by: Mere Dhimmi at December 31, 2006 7:42 PM
"Secular Danish Muslims condemned the violence overseas and appealed for dialogue."
Secular Danish Muslims? They sound like actors to me -- fit for
tragedy, comedy, history, pastoral, pastoral-comical, historical-pastoral, tragical-historical, tragical-comical-historical-pastoral...
(Hamlet, Prince of Denmark, Act 2, Scene 2)
Posted by: remote_control at December 31, 2006 7:49 PM
"There's kind of an unspoken assumption that they're not really Dutch, not really Danes, and so forth," reasons one senior U.S. official who follows the phenomenon. "Europeans are uncomfortable with Islam, and they see it as an alien body in their midst. ... Europe's got a huge problem, and they're just getting their minds around it now."
-- from the article above
The tone of this "senior U.S. offical who follows the phenomenon" is troubling. He appears to think the problem is that of the Europeans, who are "uncomfortable with Islam" (as opposed, perhaps, to Americans who have such a much more extensive experience with Islam than do the people of Europe?). When he says of the Europeans that "they see it as an alien body in their midst" does he think that is wrong? Does he think it is the fault of those bad old Europeans, or does he think they made a terrible, a colossal, a life-threatening error in their heedlessness about Islam, when they let Muslims in in such numbers, and does he think that there is a lesson here for the United States? And does he think that perhaps the doctrines of Islam itself, which uncompromisingly divide the world between Believer and Infidel, and between Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb, and preach the doctrine of endless war -- not necessarily by open combat, for the money weapon, and "pen, speech," and Da'wa, and now demographic conquest (discussed endlessly at Muslim sites and in the Muslim media, for everyone is keenly aware of this instrument of conquest in the Camp of Islam, if amazingly unaware in the Camp of the Infidels)-- and the view that Europe is a land to be taken over, won for Islam, not a place where Muslims are to embrace, in the slightest, the doctrines or beliefs or legal and political and social institutions of permanently inferior Infidels -- does this "senior U.S. official" understand that?
The distant, almost unsympathetic tone, suggests that he does not. And if that is true, he needs a short but intense course in Islam and in the history of Islamic conquest - and not from John Esposito, and not from Karen Armstrong, and not from anyone certified as a "Muslim Sensitivity Trainer" by CAIR.
at December 31, 2006 8:15 PM
Europeans are uncomfortable with Islam, and they see it as an alien body in their midst. ... Europe's got a huge problem, and they're just getting their minds around it now.
A little late for that now isn't it? Yeah, I also got the same impression Hugh did about the "senior U.S. offical."
Also, note: "We are sitting on a time bomb," warns Eva Smith, a law professor and racism expert at the University of Copenhagen. I wonder what professor Smith suggests? What on earth can the Danes do to bend over backwards any further?
Posted by: Infidelus Maximus at December 31, 2006 8:30 PM
"We are sitting on a time bomb," warns Eva Smith, a law professor and racism expert at the University of Copenhagen.
As is all of Europe.
And yet the immigration continues. And leaders continue to talk about the need for even more.
Posted by: Borg at December 31, 2006 8:34 PM
And not just a "time" bomb.
http://www.cphpost.dk/get/99698.html
21.12.2006
Terror Targets
Several busy areas in downtown Copenhagen were being considered as targets by the four young men charged in the on-going Glostrup terror case. Nørreport train and Metro station, and Field’s and Fisketorvet shopping malls were all primary bomb targets for the suspects, according to a witness statement taken early in the investigation. The witness who provided the information, however, told the court he is now suffering from a loss of memory and mental illness. The judge in the case threatened to detain the witness until his memory improved.
at December 31, 2006 9:27 PM
I believe that the spark that will save Europe is the failure of the social safety net. I'm worried about ours here in the US as well. The early Romans had a mechanism to install a temporary Dictator in times of national crisis, to get things done. He was granted the power of a King. The Dictator was voted into existance for a re-newable 6-month period. It may come down to something like that.
I did some independent number crunching today on the US social safety net. It doesn't look good.
If anybody's interested:
www.pezforyou.blogspot.com
On that note; Happy New Year! Off to be haram...
at December 31, 2006 9:31 PM
Unable to get the cartoons banned and action taken against the newspaper the Muslims resorted to a kind of treason:
"Lacking clout in Denmark, some of the local imams decided to export the controversy."
A pattern is beginning to develop by which Muslims throw their weight around (with a little help from abroad) while Islamo-disgust becomes prevalent among the locals grows quite rpidly, if the country involved is smallish. Australia and the Netherlands are other examples.
Denmark has a population of 5,450,000. To a Muslim, conscious of having the backing of an ummah 1.2 billion strong it must be infuriating even having to acknowledge the existence of a local culture of such a pathetically miniscule population. What could be more natural than to let the Danes know exactly where they stand in the great scheme of things.
The same line: "We are here to stay. We are not going to go away," from the mouth of a Danish Muslim, also occurred in a BBC radio survey of Denmark and Islam a few weeks ago. There is an ambiguity about this kind of statement - it could sound rather like the members of an army referring to a piece of ground that has been taken and from which they will never let the enemy dislodge them.
If I were a Dane that kind of talk would definitely give me the creeps.
Posted by: wallyUK at December 31, 2006 9:57 PM
The same line: "We are here to stay. We are not going to go away," from the mouth of a Danish Muslim, also occurred in a BBC radio survey of Denmark and Islam a few weeks ago. There is an ambiguity about this kind of statement - it could sound rather like the members of an army referring to a piece of ground that has been taken and from which they will never let the enemy dislodge them.
Posted by WallyUK
Yes, that mantra "We're here to stay, this is OUR COUNTRY" has become very tiresome, not to mention its militant resonance. For some strange, unexplained reason, whenever I hear that arrogant comment, I visualize bobbing heads in dark water with disembodied hands pushing them under. I certainly hope these visions aren't homicidal fantasies.
Posted by: Susanp at December 31, 2006 10:47 PM
"...or does he think they made a terrible, a colossal, a life-threatening error in their heedlessness about Islam, when they let Muslims in in such numbers, and does he think that there is a lesson here for the United States?"
Why on Earth would he? Seeing that, for example,
The boys' track teams from Annapolis, Divine Child and Fordson [in Michigan] will join the hosts in a field of 12 that also includes Berkley, Farmington Hills Harrison, Monroe Jefferson, New Boston Huron, Orchard Lake St. Mary's, Northville, Redford Union and Southgate Anderson... among whose participants will be...
senior Akeel Tourki [winning] the long jump...
[and]
Senior Hadi Harp, the All-Area cross country champion who placed at the state meet...
[and]
Senior Kassem Rizk [who] returns to run the hurdles and compete in the long jump and high jump...
[and]
Sophomores Rami Taha and Mohamed Chaytou [who] are also good hurdlers, while seniors Hussein El-Khechen and Jihad Zriek are accomplished throwers...
"Hadi, the hurdlers and the throws will be our better events," said Tractors coach P. J. Mahar. "We'll just have to try to keep improving in the other ones."
[Meanwhile,]
Juniors Michael Awada and Robbie El-Khalil will race in the sprints, sophomore Yusuf Beydoun is doing well in the open 400 and first-year senior Ahmed Chehab will be counted on in the 800.
...
Juniors Rami Alashkar (sprints/high jump) and Elway Pegg (400 and 800) are also strong veterans.
...
Hurdler Samer Nasser has emerged at the head of the freshman class so far.
[Go Team USA!!!]
at December 31, 2006 11:04 PM
Here's a nice introduction to the Islamic view of European values, written by a very intelligent Muslim:
Right title, wrong reasons.
Here he (and you can tell it's a he) lays it out in terms even senior U.S. officials will... might be able to... could possibly... probably still can't understand.
Let us be quite clear, at the outset, that the values, the perspective, of Islam - of Deen Al-Islam - are not those of the West. They are fundamentally different. We do not share a set of "common values" with the kuffar, with the West, just as our perspective, our view of the world, is not that of the kuffar, of the West. In addition, Deen Al-Islam is not compatible in any way whatsoever with the ways of the West, with the perspective of the West, with the "life-style" of the kuffar.We regard the values of the kuffar as subjective - as manufactured by them, and thus as fallible, whereas we regard our Muslim values, given to us by Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala as perfect, and right. The kuffar have fashioned their values themselves, according to some fallible ideas, or some manufactured criteria, or according to some theory, past, present or "trendy".
Sure, the entire premise is unproven. But that's their story and they're sticking to it.
at December 31, 2006 11:05 PM
Hugh/
I could not agree more with your last post if I tried. Yes, of course, moslems are an alien body in our midst. Every day in London - on the tube, in shops, in parks, whilst shopping, whilst going about the 101 tasks that make up an average life - this is borne in on me.
In London today moslems dress differently, are rude to locals, jump queues, shout at us, wave their fists at us, call us 'worthless infidel' in public and in loud voices. I have, just four days ago, been elbowed aside by a moslem couple, with sidekicks, whilst trying to top up my Oyster card at a tube station at the automatic machine. Apparently, I had taken longer than the ten seconds that they were prepared to wait and so three burly males forced me aside and, when I objected, pushed me to the floor and - quite literally - and took over the machine which I was attempting to use.
Not, in a crowded and impatient city like London that this was a surprise, but that in this instance that I was insulted by these people was a surprise. The eldest male in the group, dressed in the usual and ridiculous garb of mohammedans everywhere, looked directly at me amd said, in quite clear English, (and I quote verbatim) "Get out of our way infidel slave".
You may imagine how I felt at that moment. To be so insulted in my own capital city was stunning. It took all my self-control not to do something rash at that moment.
Knowing that CCTV cameras would have captured this incident I complained, some three hours later (after having completed my journey and return), to the British Transport Police on the Broadway. I need not have bothered. Not only would no-one there take my complaint of 'technical assault and insult' seriously but no-one to whom I spoke was even prepared to initiate any paperwork whatsoever nor were they remotely prepared to find and look at the video recordings. Indeed, one Officer even said to me that I 'should swallow my pride' and live with it because - and, once again, I quote verbatim 'you are just being racist and you have to remember that it's cultural with them'.
Obviously, at this point, I indicated that I felt that I had been physically assaulted and that I would really like to have my complaint investigated. Well, this is really where everything about that evening begins to stick in my craw. When I said that, the Officer of the BTP who was listening to me actually cautioned me and warned me that if I persisted with making a nuisance of myself I would be charged under the The Race Relations Act 1976 and the RRAA (Race Relations (Amendment) Act) 2000.
I gave up at this point. Cowardice is sometimes the better part of valour. But, damn it, they won, didn't they? I have been intimidated into a dhimmi position by them and the very powers which should have protected me in my own country.
"Happy New Year everyone", I say in a bitter tone of voice.
Dominic.
Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at December 31, 2006 11:14 PM
I guess Hugh doesn't listen to CNN. If he did, he would understand perfectly the sentiment of that American official who expressed his disdain for Europeans with their "problems" regarding acceptance of the aliens.
CNN has repeatedly (arrogantly?) alleged that Muslims in the United States are perfectly integrated and accepted into mainstream American society -- unlike the racists in Europe. That is what is repeated over and over. (oh, and when or if the Muslims in the United States become "violent" -- then the Canadians will state, arrogantly and self-congratulatory, that Canada, unlike the United States has perfectly integrated and accommodated Muslims into the mainstream of our society..) As I laugh.
right this minute, if I so chose, i could enter into one of those no-man-lands of Muslims in Canada who have claimed a bit of Canadian territory as "their own." It's everywhere the same. In Dearborn, Michigan, I don't consider the Shiites strewing candies and celebrating death as Americans, ditto for the Hezbollah marchers in Montreal who scream "death to Jews" in Arabic -- they're not Canadians. Everywhere it's the same -- these are people who have chosen not to fit in -- not to adopt Western values, but to cling to a primitive, barbaric "code" which they claim is a "religion" (but, it's a "religion" devoid of any ethical content.)
I think we have to begin a re-secularization of the world...
Posted by: J.S. at December 31, 2006 11:21 PM
To say that us Europeans have an 'alien body in our midst' is an understatement. It never ceases to amaze me how much the leftists complain about the 'racism' of the average white European, while ignoring the hate campaigns and lies spread by Muslims. If they'd actually done their research correctly, they'd know that the cost of NOT resisting the Islamic invasion (and that is precisely what it is) is greater than the cose of a world war. We would lose everything, our democracy, our freedom to choose our own destinies, it would set the human rights movements and womens rights movements back centuries. A war however, we can recover from.
Seriously, it's almost like some people actually want to be ruled by a stone-age barbaric religion intent on world domination and mass murder. As for the Danish, I hope they stick to their guns, they have more wits about them than the rest of Europe.
Posted by: Truthseeker at January 1, 2007 12:48 AM
Alladinsane57:
[[[Don`t expect the indigenous population to bend
over backwards for you any longer.
Happy New Year.]]]
Alas, from talking to fellow Europeans on other boards than this, that is precisely what I expect.
What is much more infuriating than watching the islamic takeover of Europe is the total blindness to the problem by the native population. They simply refuse to see islam as anything other than just another "religion".
Do I expect them to wake up before it is too late? Hell no! Israel is much further down that path and the leftist intellegentsia there has not woken up, so why should Europe?
at January 1, 2007 1:07 AM
If a particularly rowdy chapter of Hell's angels set up a clubhouse in a city with a population of 100,000 or 200,000 a lot of people would not even notice their existence or at least feel they could live with the fact that they were there. This would, of course, not include their immediate neighbours. If the bikers did it in a town with 5,000 or 10,000 inhabitants they would not only very quickly become a subject of complaint by the locals but would also be more likely to start acting as if they owned the place.
I think that something vaguely analogous to this is happening in Denmark and the Netherlands. Reflexes seem to be slower in larger countries - although the same effect may be discernible in some of the individual German lander.
at January 1, 2007 2:20 AM
Derukugi wrote: "..What is much more infuriating than watching the islamic takeover of Europe is the total blindness to the problem by the native population. They simply refuse to see islam as anything other than just another "religion".
Do I expect them to wake up before it is too late? Hell no! Israel is much further down that path and the leftist intellegentsia there has not woken up, so why should Europe?.."
I'm afraid you hit the nail right on it's head there. But happy new year anyway...
Posted by: seville844 at January 1, 2007 5:04 AM
My mother used to brag about her grandmother having been born in Denmark. We were proud of our viking heritage on one side. Lately I am not so sure if it is worth it to feel so proud. The Scandinavians seem to give in an awful lot to their invaders.
Alas, Happy New Year everyone!
at January 1, 2007 6:17 AM
"The government's philosophy is "always pushing these immigrants away," argues Fatih Alev, a moderate imam."
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This so-called "moderate" imam is in favor of sharia. Raped women should be stoned for adultery.
He has earlier stated that he sees himself as a guarantor for the lack of dialog between the muslim society and the jews in Denmark. If anybody tries, he will be expelled.
Also: "The jews had a dream of taking Jerusalem. They succeeded. Muslims have a dream of Denmark becoming an islamic society. That dream will be fulfilled in Denmark... Eventually we will become the majority". – You will not!!!
at January 1, 2007 7:06 AM
Dominic -
There was a time when I used to see London as the centre of the world, the birthplace of so much great music and cool lifestyle. I loved to go over there and feel the rush of the crowds, take the Tube wherever I went, shopping for records and CDs, and - yes - eating those huge doner kebabs. Those were some of the things that defined London for me.
Now I doubt I will ever go there again. Reading the stories here about endless submission to your new Herrenvolk and the abuse such as that suffered by you, including by "your" authorities, makes me sick to my stomach. Going there would only make me all too aware of the changes that await somewhere down the line here in Denmark.
Unless this unpleasant experience is just something you want to forget as quickly as possible, I would definitely encourage you to pursue it for all it is worth, which by now would probably mean trying to have the MSM look into it. Why not try and contact someone like Melanie Phillips at the Daily Mail, or one of the tabloid rags that might be somewhat less sensitive and dhimmified? Just my 5c.
What a sickening experience. Surely oppressing the interests of the native Brits this way is untenable in the long term. Once the floodgates of pent-up frustration open, treating you like this will be a thing of the past.
Posted by: anti-uffe at January 1, 2007 10:42 AM
Dominic
-- You should pursue your case. I am amazed that the police threatened YOU!! That is insane.
Are there any laws that allow you to force them to turn over the video? Would an attorney help you?
Did you pursue this as an assault? Did they want to help you until they realized it was muslims? Or did you bring that up right away?
I would go to the police at a different time of day and try again. Don't mention that they were muslims until they start the paper work. Take a recorder to record the coversation. A hidden video would be great. (Check out a "spy equipment website" for future use.)
I bet the BBC isn't interested but the Telegraph or the paper that you hate, The Daily Mail, might be. Or even a paper that isn't British.
Posted by: Borg
at January 1, 2007 11:10 AM
Dominic-
Have you considered carrying a can of pepper spray or Mace?
Posted by: treehugger at January 1, 2007 11:34 AM
Beagle -
I checked out the article "The Ignorance of Infidels" you linked to, then went on to explore the site. Here are their Rules regarding:
Gender Relations (GR)
1. Smiling or winking emoticons directed at the opposite gender are not allowed.
2. LOLing at the opposite gender is not allowed.
3. Joking with the opposite gender is not allowed.
4. Excessively praising the opposite gender is not allowed.
5. Flattering the opposite gender is not allowed.
6. Declaring your love (for the sake of Allah) to the opposite gender is not allowed.
The moderators may innocently overlook some violations as they may fall into some themselves. We are not perfect, so please be pateint with us and point out the oversight in a tactfully.
And I thought Hugh was tough !
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at January 1, 2007 1:05 PM
Also from Beagle’s link:
http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=1928
However, we should not use the terms "extreme" and "moderate" in reference to Deen Al-Islam. Rather, we should use "obedience" and "error". A Muslim falls into error when they reject the timeless perfection of Deen Al-Islam, when they reject ruling by Shariah alone, when they ally themselves with the kuffar, when they imitate the kuffar by applying the terms, the concepts, the ideas, the Taghut, of the kuffar to Deen Al-Islam. Thus, if we use the terminology of the kuffar for the moment, then according to the correct definition just outlined, what the kuffar call "moderate Muslims" are Muslims who are clearly in error (if not apostates) while what the kuffar call "extremist Muslims" or "fundamentalists" are those who are obedient to Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala and who thus are true representatives of Deen Al-Islam.
at January 1, 2007 2:35 PM
WallyUK,
I don't know about your population theory -- "Reflexes seem to be slower in larger countries.."
Is Sweden a "populous" country? I believe it's around 9 million. Malmo is the third largest city -- and its Muslim population? Muslims comprise 40 percent of the population.
Also, from the text, While Europe Slept -- the author maintains that the Swedes do anything and everything to accommodate Muslims.
Sooo, how should we account for this?
Posted by: J.S. at January 1, 2007 3:18 PM
Beagle’s link:
http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=1928
Also shows how a true muslim can't make up the difference between "moderate" muslims and other muslims.
Also notice how many times the word "arrogant" is used in this text.
Also notice the absence of the word "irony" in the same text :-)
Also notice how many times the word "colonisation" is used in the text.
Also notice the absence of the word "slavery" in the text :-)
at January 1, 2007 7:54 PM
"one senior U.S. official who follows the phenomenon said: 'Europeans are uncomfortable with Islam, and they see it as an alien body in their midst'"
Gee, Poindexter, do you think so? On the evidence of such incisive wisdom, this guy must be the head brain at the Pentagon.
Perhaps somebody should send him a ticket to Dearborn, or Minneapolis, or Red House, Virginia? Then maybe he'd see that people in his own country are feeling less than comfortable with the Islamist aliens in their own midst.
Posted by: Matamoros at January 1, 2007 9:05 PM
Why is Sweden so quiescent? No idea really - but perhaps it needs a cause celebre like the murder of a Theo van Gogh, or a trumped up cartoon controversy proving extremely detrimental to the national interest, to set things going.
Posted by: wallyUK at January 1, 2007 9:06 PM
"What is much more infuriating than watching the islamic takeover of Europe is the total blindness to the problem by the native population. They simply refuse to see islam as anything other than just another "religion".
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you said "total blindness" ??
Perhaps because the indigenous Eur. has a cell phone hanging from their ear?
My God! Here in the Staes I've never seen anything like it! In the apt bldg where I live, I see women coming out of the elevators going out - ANd they JUST LEFT the house.
In the post office - one has to hear personal converstation. IN A LOUD VOICE! And when one complains, they tell you to mind your own business. When someone there - 2nds you, the cellphone carrier - insults them too.
There are no signs banning it.
The natives curse any Protestors that delay them whether going to 9-5s or to the mall.
So as long as the natives are NOT vigilant and have their cell phones hanging from their ears - even while driving - they are truew DHIMMI material - Infidel Slaves!
I'm sorry for this because our peasant ancestors fought and died long and hard for freedom - and our grandchildren will curse us that we've let it go.
The long upward struggle will continue.
at January 1, 2007 9:09 PM
What is the key weapon in the citizen's war against the Islamic invasion? It's not vigilance. It's not determination. It's not even an M16 (although it would be nice to have that choice!)
The key weapon in the fight against Islamisation is taxes. Honest, hard working citizens in Western countries pay their taxes, the revenue from which Govts use to fund Muslim welfare payments, religious centres, subsidies to Islamic charities etc (and here in the UK, some of it is even used to ferry Yusuf al-Qaradawi to conferences around the Middle East, for chrissake).
In the UK, Govt figures show that 65% of working age Muslims do not work. They make no net contribution to the tax pot - the Muslim "community" doesn't even support itself, let alone anyone else.
This rot will only stop once the money is turned off. The likelihood of any elected Govt doing this by choice, however, is very small.
But if enough taxpayers in every Western country were to refuse to pay their taxes because of this issue, then Govts would be faced with a choice - where do we spend the money? Healthcare, policing and the good of the realm, or maintaining Mohammed and his huge family in the cosseted idleness to which they have become accustomed?
It would be interesting to see what choice they would make, if they had to...
Posted by: Matamoros at January 1, 2007 9:27 PM
Matamoros: An appropriate name (Killer of Moors." I first came across in in Mexico, never thought, I'd live to see the day when the necessity arose. Ave Maria Purissima!
Posted by: allat at January 1, 2007 10:32 PM
Dhimmitude has not completely set root in Texas yet .... see http://www.americanpigrace.com/
Islamic association dismisses Katy pig races
KATY — A Muslim group said it is no longer offended as Katy resident Craig Baker made good on his promise to stage Friday pig races next door to an 11-acre property the group has purchased to build a mosque.
While members of the Katy Islamic Association attended afternoon prayer services, Baker was busy next door at 1918 Baker Road lining a track for 25 pigs to race on, assembling merchandise to sell to spectators and grilling sausages.
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at January 1, 2007 10:44 PM
What is so difficult about this situation? When my kids want an allowance they must do some chores or get good grades to get the allowance. The welfare system is the same thing. If they want their government checks then set some conditions on getting it. These are simple parenting principles that if not followed will only lead to unruly disrespectful kids that will only have their parents to blame for not being hard enough on them.
Posted by: theblakester at January 2, 2007 1:16 AM
We are sitting on a time bomb," warns Eva Smith, a law professor and racism expert at the University of Copenhagen.
The thing to do is to defuse that bomb as soon as possible, because it will just keep growing -- in just a few years it will be a much bigger bomb.
First the Danes should prohibit any more islamic immigration. Second, they should deport all non-citizen moslems as undesirables. Third, the welfare hand-outs must be ended. These can be replaced with "work-fare", where all able-bodied adults, male or female, who want assistance will have to report each day for work projects. If they have children, these would be sent to government-run day-care centers where they could be given some wholesome education to counter-act the venom fed to them in their mosque-schools. Fourth, incentives for having larger families should be arranged for ethnic Danes. Fifth, for those who become violent when faced with these new conditions, be ready and willing to deal out some long prison sentences.
at January 2, 2007 1:25 AM
Having vented my thoughts on Denmark, (see above) here are a few on the time-bomb situation at home. Virtually all American states have laws permitting the state to take children from "unfit" homes, which generally means homes where the child is subject to abuse. It seems to me, from my reading, that an awful lot of moslem families could be considered abusive. Consider your neighbors, the Arafarts. One summer, they announce that they're going on vacation back to the homeland, to visit relatives. When they return, it is without their 14 y.o. daughter Fatima. "Where is Fatima?" you ask. "oh she liked so well, she wanted to stay, so she's with her uncle Ali" is their answer. In reality she's been forceably married to Abdul Abulbul Emir, who paid a good price to get a nice young chickie as his third wife. Her U.S. passport is safely locked away and she's confined to Abdul's house, unable to leave safely except when clad in a burka and in the company of other members of the household. In effect, she's been kidnapped and enslaved, which certainly sounds like abuse to me, and which would be all the reason necessary for the state to place all the other Arafart children under state care.
Posted by: ebonystone at January 2, 2007 2:05 AM
"What on earth can the Danes do to bend over backwards any further?"
...methinks they are bending over forward......
at January 2, 2007 7:32 AM
Dominic - you've got to be kidding about the assault in the train station and the subsequent exchange with the police. Something like that shows unequal treatment and puts native English people into Dhimmi status.
How can you be 'racist' but they are merely expressing their 'culture'? I'm sure you're aware of how irrational and contradictory those things are, but good politics never lets the facts or figures stand in the way of an agenda.
I don't know what you can do about your personal experience, but I would try to pursue through official channels as some of the other posters here suggest. I would also share the story with as may contacts as you have ( which I'm sure you will ).
I am going to send your story to some of my email contacts to help get the word out. I don't know any who live in London at this point, but I'll pass it along to people I know. I'm sorry that this had to happen to you. I think it will become commonplace if the official policy and behavior of the police doesn't change. People will not put up with it eventually, but this will not end well if things don't moderate.
God bless you and protect you.
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at January 2, 2007 10:29 AM
Here is a short extract from Queen Margrete's II of Denmarks New Years Speech thanks to Zonka's Blogg
Here in Denmark we would like nothing better than everything to run frictionless, that problems if the come, should solve themselves, because we believe that what is natural for us, evidently must be for everybody else. Unfortunately it is not that simple. We begin to realize, that we ourselves must understand and make an effort in explaining which values our society is built on, so that those who haven set deep roots in Denmark, can find room and a place to settle inside the society, whose citizens they have become. In the past year we have certainly learned a thing or two, not least about ourselves. We now know better, what we believe in and where we neither will or can give in.
I see no cringing Dimmi here, she quietly restates the resolve that all Danes feel when it comes to there culture. The Danes are pragmatists they have already laws in place resticting immigration and the no of live births of the Muslim population has slumped to aproximately 2.4 which is a little over replacement. Yes they might make the odd mistake, but have no fear they do not piss around when there is a point to be made. The year before last there was a honnour killing at Slaglser a town south of Copehagen. The murder was performed by the families underage son who they expected would get a light sentence. They were wrong they arrested the whole family charged them and sentenced them to quiet long prison sentence by Danish standards. The Danes by the way unlike certain countries in the west are not dependant on middle east oil. They have enough reserves in the north sea fields small as they are to supply there basic need. Thirty years ago they were leading the pack when it came to alternative energy. They had an experimental wind farm built in the grounds of there Atomic research station at Riso. It has paid dividends 20% of all of Denmarks electicty is generated by two large wind farms one in the north sea and another in the Baltic. No other country in the world generates as much energy from natural means. The Danes are very difficult to intimidate their Prime minister made his point very clear and did not waver during the Cartoon Crisis, if only the same could be said for some of the wests other politicians. They are tolerant and laid back affable and seem an easy touch, but beware they know where to draw the line. The two Immans that started the cartoon crisis have had to say the least had a rough time from the Danish press. One of them felt so unapreciated by the Danes that he has left permantly while the other does now tend to pick and chose his words, with care.
For all you Christians who are forever complaining how we Europeans have lost our faith and therefore do not have the backbone to defend ourselfs may I add this short translation of the first paragraph of a Danish Christian website called
ISLAMKRITISK NETVÆRK I FOLKEKIRKEN
Kristne og muslimer tror ikke på den samme Gud
Islamkritisk Netværk i Folkekirken er et løst organiseret netværk, der ser det som sit formål at studere og kritisere islam. Netværket, som blev dannet i forsommeren 2006, har som sit udgangspunkt, at kristne og muslimer ikke tror på den samme Gud. Den kristne tror på Gud som fader til Jesus Kristus, den treenige Gud. Muslimen derimod bekender sig til Muhammeds Allah som skænker af bogen Koranen. Forskellen markeres tydeligt i Koranen (9.30), der indeholder en forbandelse af den, der bekender sig til Kristus som Guds søn.
Christians and Muslims do not believe in the Same God
The Islam critical network in the people church is a lose orginised network whose aim is to study and critise Islam. The network was formed in the spring of 2006 and states that Christians and Muslims do not believe in the same God. The Christians believe that God is the father of Jesus, the trinity. Muslims only accept Muhammeds Allah who gave them the Koran. The difference is clearly shown in the Koran (9.30) that contains the curse on those who accept Christ as the son of God.
End of Translation
Dear Dominic,
as a fellow Brit I feel your humiliation deep in my bones, it makes me exceedingly angry. The Question is what do you do when the British Government discriminates agains you and will do nothing to protect you. Who will you vote for in the next election certainly not for one of the parties now in parliament because they are falling over themselves to pander to the muslim vote. The only party that is willing to stand up for Britian seems to be the British Nationalist Party, but from what I gather you are Homosexual and would have problems with there so called gay bashing fascist image. You seem to be in a bind like most decent Brits but there comes a time when you have to take sides, and as Churchill said during the war “ If Hitler invaded hell I would be forced to stand up in the House of Commons and say a few good words on the Devils behalf.”
at January 2, 2007 10:45 AM
Dominic -
I was infuriated for you when I read that.
I know some people are writing London off but I think we should fight even harder for it when I read things like this. Hopefully next time an infidel is pushed out of line, enough of us "heathens" will be there to pick him up, put him back in place, and push the people that pull stunts like that back to the end of the queue.
Posted by: GoldieLox at January 2, 2007 11:46 AM
Dominic:
Why not carry a piece of bacon? Flash it at the izlamaniacs like you'd flash a cross at a vampire. I'm absolutely serious. I would not leave home without some edible haram in my coat pocket. You could start a fad! It would be the start of something big, especially if you get on the news. Go for it!
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at January 2, 2007 2:34 PM
I don't know whether Dominic is kidding Our just pulling out legs.
In case this is true, I'd advise him to take martial arts classes. Those in community centers. But if he has a friend that knows some kind of martial art - maybe he could help him also.
At any rate, whether or not this happened- it's not paranoia for me to believe that our governments and learning institutions have sold us out.
This is a classic case of some kind of world power behind the pupplet "leaders" that have been playing chess for centuries - maybe millennia...and we are the pawns.
We have ALWAYS been the game pieces for the petty wars of religions and governments. We have bled and suffered and died.
In fact, the sciencee and and professors and universities are funded by them following the orders of those slime - or whatever that is.
While we in the lower classes have been tauch ethics and the 10 commandments, it's a different set of rules for them.
We, as the common people, are now in such a state of confusion- we don't know whether we're coming or going. Like a tennis match our heads turn this way and that.
I specifically bring forward the matter of the so-called overpopulation of the earth. This is what we've been told for 30 yrs or more, that there are too many people living. ANd they present the birth stats - does the UN. But the death figs. are ignored - I feel deliberately. Or if they are ever given, they're CAN"T possibly be the true ones. HOw can you figure overpop. when you see the WARS and the EPIDEMICS (incl. cancer) worldwide. Not to mention the natural deaths of very old people.
Yet there are many other professionals - and others with "common sense" tht have researched and find that there IS - N O overpopulation.
In any case, here we are, in the West, listening to this propaganda - and have cut down the birth rates of the developed countries. To the point, tht in the U.S. it's been found that we have 0. population growth.
This is fine - there is stability then because it allows for growth in learning and advances in society ACROSS THE BOARD.
But now comes the governments bringing in stress allowing immigrations. Whether it is immigration - legal or illegal is the same thing.
The worst is NOT the illegal Mexican immigration - the people here in the U.S. have their feathers in a wad about this. The Mexicans, as I've said before, may be illegals, but the INTEGRATE. They willing to work their butts off to become part of this society, and to get their kids into the system.
And the truth is that Mexicans ARE already part of Western culture. They are christians. They ARE the christian Front.
THEY ARE THE HOPE OF YOU GRINGOS!
And you should consideryourselves lucky - LUCKY - they coming in to make up the missing bulk of the population of the CULTURE in this country!
So now we have the aliens from another world - INVADERS coming in - with NO intention for population control!
And the governments KNOW it and DON"T care!
Every problem we have with these alien invaders of islamic adherence - is ignored by the police, parliment/congress, the judicial system.
Are you getting the ideas that they don't care?
Are you getting the idea that our governments are NOT working for us - but to control us?
I wonder why?
Do you wonder why?
Posted by: allat at January 3, 2007 10:34 AM
Correction:
:) I don't know whether Dominic is kidding, or just pulling our leg. :)
at January 3, 2007 10:36 AM
Addition:
By the way,now that we, women are out in the world, in the wide world, we're NOT going to stay home again ans be breeders."It's a case of
"How you gonna get 'em back on the farm, after they've seen Parrreee!"
Posted by: allat at January 3, 2007 10:56 AM
what percentage refuse to work for a non-muslim?
Posted by: AbuNudnik at January 6, 2007 1:15 PM
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