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More on the persecuted Christian population of Iraq from AINA, with thanks to John Zmirak:
Difficulties and persecution is nothing new to the minority Christians living in Iraq. However, local Christians are now saying that the anarchistic situation in their country has destroyed all optimism for a better future."Almost no one sees a bright future for Iraq," said Stefan De Groot, co-worker of the international organization Open Doors, according to a report on Tuesday.
De Groot, who visits Iraq several times a year, says that every time he visits, a local believer tells him that the situation is worse than the last time he visited.
"Another Christian told me he had to buy new clothes for his wife because during a shooting on the streets, her wardrobe was riddled with bullets," recalled De Groot. "A third man explained in detail what happened when he brought his son to school and a car bomb went off. The little boy ran inside the school and saw a human heart hanging against the window."
Posted by Robert at January 19, 2007 4:39 PM
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More and more on the systemitic attacks on the remaining Christians of Iraq.
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at January 19, 2007 5:06 PM
The little boy ran inside the school and saw a human heart hanging against the window."
Im surprised there are any schools still standing
Posted by: shiva at January 19, 2007 7:49 PM
What an interesting way for Iraqi youth to learn about biology and anatomy.
Sickening.
Posted by: LoneRanger at January 19, 2007 7:54 PM
Program to help Christians in Iraq:
1. Arm them.
2. Take them to Lebanon and bring Muslims from Lebanon.
3. Sinai as a haven. Egypt gets billions each year, they can take the refugees from Iraq and put them in Sinai.
4. Swap with Palestinians in Gaza.
5. Swap them with the Hmong who are here in US from Vietnam.
6. Organize Mel Martinez Brigades of illegals here and send them to Iraq to revitalize the economy by immigration.
Posted by: Old Atlantic at January 19, 2007 8:24 PM
Look Robert, you understand I respect your work.
However, this "AINA" is not a proper news-source, it is simply not reliable. Last time, they had an article saying how Iraqi muslims barbequed a christian child and served him on rice.
And that's ludicrous. They may be near-animals, but they aren't cannibals. Just remove this article like you did the rice-story, you know that's proper.
Posted by: loler at January 19, 2007 9:15 PM
Searches
google says
"Results 1 - 10 of about 1,040,000 for Iraqi Christians flee. (0.15 seconds)"
Info on Christian genocide in Turkey
at January 19, 2007 9:20 PM
"The United Nations has launched a campaign to raise money for Iraqi refugees, mostly Sunni and Shia Muslims, but the Barnabas Fund said that Christian refugees could be forgotten.
The Iraqi Christian population had dropped to about 500,000, a third of its level of 20 years ago. An estimated 350,000 Christians had fled since 2003, it said.
Speaking to the Church Times in London, Dr Dony George, the former director of the Baghdad Museum, said that British Churches and the British Government should do more to help Christians."
Posted by: Old Atlantic at January 19, 2007 9:23 PM
at January 19, 2007 9:23 PM
"The United Nations has launched a campaign to raise money for Iraqi refugees, mostly Sunni and Shia Muslims, but the Barnabas Fund said that Christian refugees could be forgotten.
The chorus is getting louder: US OUT OF THE UN!!!
Posted by: MeanieMo at January 19, 2007 10:01 PM
Posted by: loler
Look Robert, you understand I respect your work.
However, this "AINA" is not a proper news-source, it is simply not reliable. Last time, they had an article saying how Iraqi muslims barbequed a christian child and served him on rice.
And that's ludicrous. They may be near-animals, but they aren't cannibals. Just remove this article like you did the rice-story, you know that's proper.
Sorry but it would not surprise me if muslims have resorted to cannaballism,as it is not forbidden in the koran,and whats not forbidden in the koran is permitted
Posted by: shiva at January 19, 2007 11:52 PM
JUST ONE EXAMPLE
Sunday, August 17, 2003
Ugandan Muslims Pray for a Cannibal
Ugandan Muslims crowded into the main mosque in Kampala today, to eulogize and pray for mass-murdering, genocidal cannibal Idi Amin—their “dear one:” Ugandans pray for Amin.
"To say that Amin was the worst criminal, is to misrepresent the facts," a speaker said, reacting to government officials, whose eulogy he said was "un-African," a reference to the tradition never to speak ill of the dead. ...
"No body will make us waiver from the fact that Amin did a number of good things for the country," opposition politician Hussein Kyanjo told the gathering that included Amin's children, relatives and some government officials.
Kyanjo asked government officials to give "Muslims a break to mourn their dear one, Idi Amin," whom they said donated the land on which the mosque stood and who founded the Uganda Muslim Supreme Council (UMSC) - the highest organ of the Muslim faith in Uganda.
Islamic cleric Haruna Sengooba asked the government to allow them to observe annual prayers on August 17 in remembrance of Amin's death.
"So many of us came here as a testimony to show that in spite of what is said, Amin worked for this country.
"We challenge those castigating him to show the world the skulls of those he killed, like we have been shown the skulls of those killed after him," UMSC religious affairs secretary Mahad Kakooza said.
Amin's former education minister Abu Mayanja described the late former leader as a person who had "a lot of interest and vision for Uganda," saying his first government after he seized power in 1971 was full of professionals and that it had never been equalled in Ugandan history after him.
"God should judge him according to the limitations that existed during his time and the circumstances he worked under," Mayanja, who has also served in the current government, said, asking: "Who had counted and documented the people Amin had killed?"
Posted by: shiva at January 20, 2007 12:35 AM
I'm surprised there still are Assyrians left in Iraq.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at January 20, 2007 2:44 AM
loler,
Yes, they do resort to cannibalism. The link below is the story of Charlene Downes.
http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/charlene_downes_a_murder_too_far_for_the_msm/
Posted by: arjun.sevak at January 20, 2007 3:33 AM
Estimates of the percentage of those fleeing Iraq who are Christians have been as high as 40%. And among the Muslims who are leaving are those who are often of the professional, more secular class.
What does this mean for Bush's "democracy" project, that Iraq-the-Model, Iraq The-Light-Unto-the-Muslim-Nations Project? That project was always based on ignorance, ignorance about the essence of Western democracy, and about the essence of Islam.
It was folly was to believe that democracy, real democracy with the rule of law and guarantees of both individual liberties and for the equal rights of minorities, could be transplanted to a society that was essentially Muslim, and therefore also collectivist, without any solicitude for individual rights (compare the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights, the "Islamic" version of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, with the latter), and certainly not for free speech or freedom of conscience (including the freedom to leave Islam).
Now that the Christians have left, and many of the most secular Muslims, that diminishes the class of people who might, just possibly, make some kind of go of something worth having in Iraq.
Iraq is what it is because of Islam. The teachings of Islam. The attitudes of Islam that naturally arise from those teachings, including the refusal to compromise with one's political rivals or enemies. The aggression. The deception. The violence. When Saddam Hussein ruled Iraq, the state had a monopoly on aggression and violence, and held down or limiited that of all others. With his removal, and the change from Sunni despotism, to incipient Shi'a despotism, that violence and aggression that can be seen in many Muslim Arab societies, to be controlled only by a police state, can more easily be seen. And it will continue that way without stop, until such time as Iraq is partitioned. For the Sunnis will never acquiesce, and the Shi'a will never truly share either oil wealth or political power, whatever they pretend to do in order to keep the Americans -- and above all American military equipment and the possibility of obtaining some or much of it -- around for a while longer. And as soon as the Americans depart, that "power-sharing" that may be ostentatiously agreed to, and perhaps even temporarily followed, by the Shi'a, will be thrown in the garbage.
Posted by: Hugh at January 20, 2007 8:04 AM
Wow. I used to think Christians world wide were toast under Clinton. At least Clinton have the audacity to openly bomb them in Kosovo. Bush simply does it by proxy...
I sure am glad we have a God fearin, Christian president - aren't you?
Posted by: infidel! at January 20, 2007 12:03 PM
Posted by: arjun.sevak
Yes, they do resort to cannibalism. The link below is the story of Charlene Downes.
http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/charlene_downes_a_murder_too_far_for_the_msm/
ALSO ONE OF THE SUSPECTS IS CALLED MOHAMMED
Posted by: shiva at January 20, 2007 1:59 PM
dear friend of saddam was tarek aziz, he was christian and he had a lot of power during saddam.
thanks to this christian who sold himself to the muslim cause, christians in iraq probably had it a little better than any other christian in any other muslim country.
I watched a respectful TV talk show where one catholic priest from iraq said so.
The naive christians thought it was supposed to go on.
Time to learn that muslims are muslims. I am afraid they have to learn it the hard way but their status was granted because aziz was buddy buddy with saddam, not because muslims liked them.
Time to realize the truth
Posted by: StillFedUp at January 20, 2007 6:16 PM
Almost every Iraqi Christian, and other non-Muslims such as Mandeans and Yezidis, look back on the era of Saddam Hussein as the only time in Iraqi history that they had rights. The same can also be said for Iraqi women.
Saddam promoted Christians and gave them power since, except for his fellow Tikritis, he could not trust other Muslims. Tarik Aziz is only the best known of these Christians. Saddam abolished Mutaa "marriages" and the selling of girls. He passed laws that women could be educated and had equal rights in divorce and inheritance. Also, on behalf of Reagan, Saddam was willing to militarily take on the Iranian mullahs.
So how did the US repay him? It told him that the US had no committments to Kuwait, but when he re-united that fake little country to Basra province, the US went to war with him. After a dozen years of inhumane enbargoes, The US then occupied his country, killed his sons, created an Islamic theocracy, gave Saddam a Stalin-like show trial, and had him hanged.
The current situation in Iraq makes me proud to be a Christian but ashamed to be an American.
Posted by: Provoslavni at January 22, 2007 1:18 AM
The latest news reports from Iraq are about abductions, torture, and murders on the Christian Population. An ethnic cleansing of Christians is perpetrated as we speak. The Christians, who have no protection at all, are being victimized because of their religion., ethnicity, or as a reaction against the actions of the Western worlds. In other words, the fanatics have many reasons to take the lives of the Christians and to exterminate all Assyrians/Chaldean/Syriacs from Iraq.
Over the past three and a half years, Christians have been subjected to a steady stream of church bombings, assassinations, kidnapping, beheadings,and threatening letters slipped under their doors.
Article II of the Convention of the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide defines genocide as "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group such as:
a) killing members of the group
b)causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group.
c)deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.
d)imposing measures intended to prevent briths withing the group.
e) forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
Islamic elements in Iraq are working towaqrds the total destruction of the Christian community. Iraq's Christians are facing genocide.
I agree it is time to arm them, not relocate them...
Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 22, 2007 6:52 AM
One upon a time Christians could have taken shelter in the Middle East's Christian state LEBANON - but then the Muslims took it over and turned it into a hell hole.
Posted by: Timbo at January 23, 2007 1:40 AM
If you run and run and run...sooner or later you will have no where to run to...It is better to fight...
Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 24, 2007 8:03 AM
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