In Britain in 1995, the anthropologist Geoffrey Glover wrote a book titled 'Exploring English character'.

He questioned the beliefs, prejudices etc. of large numbers of the British middle class.

He found that the English people as a whole are obsessed with restraining any element of violence and the trait of gentleness was rated very highly.

Loss of temper and impatience were regarded as major sins.

Very admirable, but about as much use as the proverbial breasts on a bull if the enemy you are facing prizes violence, bigotry and lying as virtues.

Is Britain already beaten?

Posted by: Deecha at January 21, 2007 6:00 AM

i just do not understand this story.
to have got to this stage, did she not have to take classes in self-defence and first-aid ? was she able to avoid all physical contact with men during that time ? and if she is that strict, what about the oath of allegiance to the Queen ?
and has she got a headscarf attached to her uniform hat ? and what does she plan on doing when faced with a man who needs arresting ? hmmmm, maybe she already faced that test with Sir Ian.....

Posted by: M Al-Content at January 21, 2007 6:01 AM

Whatever you do.. don't mention the WAR!

Posted by: payingattention at January 21, 2007 6:05 AM

This is nuts ! As M Al-Content says, how did she get to be a bobbie in the first place ? How will this person do her job properly ? Presumably she will be arresting only women.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at January 21, 2007 6:44 AM

So if a male criminal wanted to avoid arrest, or just piss her off, then they could attempt to shake hands with her.

Posted by: Voltaire at January 21, 2007 6:51 AM

Once again I am appauled by the failed left-wing Multicultural, Diversity Orientated, PC , Integration nonsense that we are forced to SUBMIT TO on a daily basis. Britain is a disgrace! Our government is clueless.

the ready-made replacement for the whole panoply of societal norms

This is a example of insidious Jihad where the populace is softened up into accepting Sharia.
It may not have the dramatic impact of a bomb but in the longterm it will take over our lives.

I look forward to seeing this WPC enforce our system of LAW.

There is another example of insidious Jihad on this blog. Read the Cigarette story I nearly
choked to death.

http://www.exposingislam.blogspot.com/

Posted by: raz at January 21, 2007 7:04 AM

Raz, excuse me? Muslims can't sell cigarettes because it's against their religion?

I saw a muslim woman, wearing the full hijab, smoking a cigarette.

Posted by: Voltaire at January 21, 2007 7:18 AM

I wouldn't shake hands with 'Sir' Ian either. For different reasons though.

Posted by: grobari at January 21, 2007 7:24 AM

"Raz, excuse me? Muslims can't sell cigarettes because it's against their religion?

I saw a muslim woman, wearing the full hijab, smoking a cigarette.

Posted by: Voltaire "

Did anyone catch FOXNEWS Special on "Smokescreen: Hezbollah in America"?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,244002,00.html

They were selling soooooo many cigarettes. It was an illegal deal to make money on tax evasion, then sending money back to Hez in Lebanon. They had prayer meetings so they must have been practising muslims, surely?
So I guess they can sell cigarettes.And I have seen many smoking on news clips etc.

M Al-Content & Voltaire: I agree with your other posts.

Posted by: Gramfan at January 21, 2007 7:40 AM

Orthodox Jewish women also don't shake hands with men; but an Orthodox Jewish woman wouldn't - probably - be a policewoman!

Posted by: TeachESL at January 21, 2007 7:59 AM

Matters like this and the muslim PC. Israeli Embassy guard used to rankle but hey , its more votes for the BNP.
Blair , Brown and the rest...keep up the good work.

Posted by: aladdinsane57 at January 21, 2007 8:07 AM

"Raz, excuse me? Muslims can't sell cigarettes because it's against their religion?

I saw a muslim woman, wearing the full hijab, smoking a cigarette. "

as well as muslim lawyers covered in burqa, aren't women supposed to stay at home breeding and nothing else.

Don't you understand that islam stands only to piss off the rest?

If they really enforced their stupid laws on their own people we wouldn't have to deal with stupid muslim women around.

They just enforce the laws that are plaguing the country and plaguing the rest of non-muslims.

Posted by: StillFedUp at January 21, 2007 8:33 AM

The problem will be when the brother or sister police officer will look the other way at the criminal conduct of a brother or sister because Islam forbids the faithful to give up a person of the ummah to the infidel or its laws.

Posted by: David England at January 21, 2007 8:55 AM

http://www.thehijabshop.com/information/article1.php

Surreal isn't it?
The next thing that she will demand will be special dispensation so that she doesn't have to come into contact with police dogs or their handlers, as they are regarded as unclean in the Islamic version of reality.

Probably easier just to give her a desk job with her own prayer room. Oh and don't forget to make sure the toilet doesn't face Mecca - that would be insulting.

Posted by: hierophant at January 21, 2007 9:05 AM

Muslims have been ranting recently about non-Muslim doctors treating Muslim women and seeing them in a state of undress. Yet if you visit an obstetrics ward anywhere in England, you will be struck by how many of the doctors -- almost all of them in some places, such as Cambridge -- are Muslims and many are male. Does it make sense for male Muslims to train as gynecologists or obstetricians given the Muslim view that women should not be seen in a state of undress by men other than their husbands? Or does it make perfect sense, because the same Muslim male doctor who would refrain from treating a Muslm female, but hand her over to a Muslim female colleague, would be happy to treat non-Muslim women, for that is a different and lower category of being altogether? Or should non-Muslim women, and men, for that matter, have some qualms about being treated by Muslim doctors, given what they know, or should know, about the views inculcated by Islam about Infidels, and how they are to be viewed, and treated, or mis-treated?

Posted by: Hugh at January 21, 2007 10:32 AM

“This has never happened before and he was bloody furious. But he agreed to go along with it so as not to cause a scene,” the source was quoted as saying.

The “request was only granted” in order not to spoil what is a key event, the police spokeswoman said.
______________________________________

This was a matter of disrespect on the part of the woman. She is living in Britain. If she is unwilling to adapt to British customs then should shouldn't be living there; much less working there; even less being on part of a police force there.

How is she supposed to restrain a male suspect? Oops... sorry I can't touch him. He isn't my husband.

________

As I have said before this must either stop or British people should start brushing up on Islamic customs as Islamic customs will one day become the norm in Britain.

Posted by: Monkeywho at January 21, 2007 10:36 AM

lol read here

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17835-2004Aug20.html

ATHENS, Aug. 20 -- In a nearly empty Olympic Stadium Friday morning, a woman wearing a track singlet over a traditional Muslim hijab, its white hood imprinted with the flag of Bahrain, set a national record in the 100-meter qualifying heats. So did a woman from Afghanistan, the first to represent her nation in the Olympics, who ran in loose-fitting pants and a T-shirt and finished 62nd out of 63 competitors.

62nd out of 63

way to go burqad sister.

Posted by: StillFedUp at January 21, 2007 11:33 AM

I bet she wouldn't hesitate to shoot him as an infidel!!!

Posted by: OLD SARGE at January 21, 2007 11:33 AM

also

A woman from the island nation of Kiribati who trains in bare feet on crushed coral set a personal best wearing shiny new track spikes. A woman from Somalia, who competed in long pants and with a traditional scarf over her head, finished in the slowest time of the morning, 14.29 seconds, more than three seconds behind the top finishers.

It was the fastest race she had ever run.

Again, shouldn't women be at home breeding?

what are they doing at the olympics? to arrive as last?

Posted by: StillFedUp at January 21, 2007 11:34 AM

just in case you missed this first time around

http://www.guardian.co.uk/race/story/0,,1794445,00.html

Posted by: hierophant at January 21, 2007 11:45 AM

I saw Daniel Pipes speaking at a meeting organised by Mayor Ken yesterday in central London. After the usual wooly pc speech by Ken, it was so refreshing to hear Daniel's analysis of how our public institutions are being insidiously infiltrated by political Islam and sharia law. This is yet another example of an orchestrated campaign to change our laws under the guise of multiculturalism and religious tolerance. Pipes' speech was seconded by Douglad Murray, a journalist who stated very clearly that our laws and public institutions are not up for negotiation and that should be made clear to everyone who wants to live in our communities.

Posted by: londongirl at January 21, 2007 12:59 PM

Incidentally, I listened to comments by delegates in the lunch break and many were very impressed by the clarity of Daniel Pipes delivery and the way he got his ideas across.

Posted by: londongirl at January 21, 2007 1:00 PM

I think a compromise should have been sought. Instead of shaking hands, the Muslimah 'officer' should have been made to go down on her knees and kiss the soles of his boots. Or maybe just the ground in front of him. That way, she obeys her religion, while he doesn't get defiled by her.

On the OBGYN issue that Hugh mentions above, expectant Infidelettes should simply refuse to be treated by Muslim doctors. The ones that aren't dhimmis, that is.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 21, 2007 1:04 PM

Voltaire; Gramfan; Stillfedup;

Of course,I know Muslims smoke I have had the misfortune of being forced to work with them for two years plus,which ended in tears. I was almost Jade Goodied i.e. falsely accused of racism for standing up for my rights. Of course white people do not have rights in Britain any more. I also know that they pull out the rule book i.e. Koran when it suits them in order to piss on us.

Anyway another article about the enemy within:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=UMT51UUZEHPBLQFIQMFSFFWAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2007/01/21/nhate21.xml

Posted by: raz at January 21, 2007 1:06 PM

Diversity sucks when the quality of work from someone brings the whole team down, yet is kept on the team so that it appears diverse. And refusing to shake your superior's hand because of religious reasons is rude.

Then again, so are a lot of Qu'ran verses that call us kafirs or pigs or apes.

Posted by: wrathofasma at January 21, 2007 1:28 PM

Islamic leaders defend Muslim officer over handshake snub

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks at January 21, 2007 1:37 PM

In the PC/multiculti rush for Western police forces to be made representative of the wider community by employing more "minority" officers, a very serious issue is usually overlooked and is raised again by the graduation of this Muslim woman.

How confident can a domestically abused UK Muslim woman be that in going to the police with a complaint, a hugely courageous step, she won't be put into the tender care of a hard-line Muslim woman constable who will hand her right back to the male or males in the family who abused in the first place or at least ensure that they find out?

One author hints at this dilemma:

"Muslim girls and women have been murdered by their fathers in Europe for 'being caught with make-up in [their] purse, wearing revealing attire - in other words, anything except a black serge curtain and a black pillowcase, refusing to marry the husband the family has chosen and ... for going out with an indigenous British boy or a Lebanese Christian boy.' The suicide rate of Asian [Pakistan/Indian/Bangla Desh] women in Britain is four times higher than that among the local population and other immigrant groups. When there are no other options, suicide is often perceived as the only escape. According to Scotland Yard homicide squad commander Andy Baker: 'Those who come to police are, without question, the tip of the iceberg.'

Recently, a psychologist has persuaded the police to listen carefully to any young young Muslim girl or woman who gets up the nerve to walk into a police station, not to inform the families, and not to try to mediate."

(Phyllis Chesler 'The Death of Feminism' 2005, chapter 7 'Islamic Gender Apartheid in the West' p.157)

If this Muslim woman constable is prepared to publicly defy her Chief of Police, what heed will she pay some soft guideline that strikes at the heart of traditional Muslim family life?

Posted by: MBR at January 21, 2007 1:46 PM

To avoid compromising domestic situations as commented on, she may be assigned to airport duty checking burka clad travellers for bombs.

And how reassuring is that, Sir Ian?

Posted by: LoneRanger at January 21, 2007 2:01 PM

This is another example of Islamic hypocracy that is turned on and off as it suits them. Mostly it is done to insult or otherwise inconvenience the kuffar. The other example is the prayer room at the Northwestern b'ball arena.

This woman is already in violation of several Islamic regulations concerning what women are not allowed to do. She chooses not to shake hands in order to show her supremacy over her kuffar supervisors. Islam contains one cuning stunt after another.

Posted by: Pelayo at January 21, 2007 2:28 PM

I wonder if Geoffrey (now there’s a working class name) ever thought to ask the working class kids about their beliefs?

Did he consider for a moment that the Tarquin’s and Rosetta’s of the middle classes might be sending their precious child to the very best school they can to avoid the violence they abhor and associate with the working classes?

And if he did manage to write an entire book dedicated to the rarefied sensibilities of the middle classes. How did he manage to conclude that English people has a WHOLE are obsessed with being gentle? Is that not the same as interviewing the Queen about her opinions on killing rats with an airgun, and then assuming that the working class teens must be thinking the same thing?

The middle class form opinions that make the news. The working class fight wars.

Posted by: Mert at January 21, 2007 2:42 PM

"Or does it make perfect sense, because the same Muslim male doctor who would refrain from treating a Muslm female, but hand her over to a Muslim female colleague, would be happy to treat non-Muslim women, for that is a different and lower category of being altogether?"
Posted by: Hugh

Does it make perfect sense that they would be more concerned about an untethered, and therefore seductive goat batting its wanting eyelashes on a country hillside?

As Pelayo put it, "This is another example of Islamic hypocracy that is turned on and off as it suits them. Mostly it is done to insult or otherwise inconvenience the kuffar."

Therefore, it doesn't have to make sense. In their minds it degrades the women, as it would degrade their own women (i.e. not passively OK because they are "lower categories", but actively insulting, to illustrate they are "lower"). Not "happy to treat", but "happy to mistreat". That is reason and "sense" enough.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at January 21, 2007 2:43 PM

MBR makes a very good point above - this officer might be the very last person many women would wish to turn to for help. i dont think i would be keen to, either.
the Ummah News link says she is not Asian.
is she a convert ? if so, that would explain a lot.

Posted by: M Al-Content at January 21, 2007 2:53 PM

London Girl, I was there too. I agree with you how Daniel Pipes spoke with impressive dignity and calm and how refreshing to hear Douglas Murray's passion and energy, compared with their opposite numbers.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at January 21, 2007 3:01 PM

A SMOKER was refused cigarettes at a Cambridge store because the Muslim shop assistant said it was against her religion to sell tobacco.
...Asked why the store had someone who would not sell tobacco working behind the till, she said: "It is against the law to discriminate against people on religious grounds".

I used to regularly buy cigars at a little tobacco store staffed by those kinds of apparently semi-secularized Muslims who are wryly personable and dutifully friendly, and don't sport fierce Adam Gadahnesque beards. Sometimes, the two males who were the usual sellers had a young lady -- young enough to be their daughter (or wife) -- in her Muslim garb, with a veil around her head but not covering her face, sell me my cigars. Often when I would enter the tiny store, either of the two male proprietors would have a radio on with news about the middle east (either in English or some other language, possibly Arabic), or would be reading a New York Times. Once, one of the two once had a burning cigar between his fingers as he rang up the register.

I've stopped giving them my business, since I realize now that even subtle signs of secularization (or just simple acquiescence to the basic human imperfection that Allah eternally damns) do not absolve any given Muslim from suspicion.

"However, a leading Muslim denied the claim it was against Islam to sell tobacco, and said he had Muslim friends who smoke. Asim Mumtaz, president of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Association in Cambridge..."

Wow, they have to reach for an Admadiyya Muslim to tell them that!

Posted by: remote_control at January 21, 2007 4:28 PM

Deecha:
"Geoffrey Glover found that the English people as a whole are obsessed with restraining any element of violence and the trait of gentleness was rated very highly. Is Britain already beaten?"

I take it from your words that you're not British, Deecha? It's true that gentleness and good manners were, and largely remain, valued attributes in British society.

But Britain is also the most violent country in Europe, and one of the most violent in the developed world. The middle classes whom Mr Glover surveyed form the officer cadre of our Army which, although small and poorly funded by this treacherous Government, remains one of the most professional and formidable fighting forces in the world. Ask any enemy that has faced the SAS, or the Parachute Regiment, or the Royal Marines, for their opinion of these troops' gentleness - I'm sure they would disagree with Mr Glover.

You state that viewing loss of temper and impatience with disdain is "very admirable, but about as much use as the proverbial breasts on a bull". Such outbursts were considered with even less regard in the British society of the early 19th Century, but that didn't prevent British soldiers from kicking the "unbeatable" Napoleon and his armies out of Portugal and Spain, then crushing him totally on his return from exile.

No people could have been more reserved and polite than the British middle classes in 1939 (ever seen Brief Encounter?). It didn't prevent them from waging Total War against the Nazis and the Japanese - ask the people of Dresden, or Hamburg, or Cologne, or the Axis veterans of Arnhem, or El Alamein, or Kohima, whether the British national character left its people unwilling to fight.

I apologise for beating the drum so loudly. We are a gentle people, and although our society's manners have declined in recent years, many of us retain our reserve and quiet way. But don't mistake this for weakness. There is huge resentment - across all classes, races and religions - about the attitude and actions of Muslims in this country. Our Government is weak - WE are not.

One day soon we will find a strong leader with the will and fortitude to confront the Islamic cuckoo in our nest. I'm not talking about the chimps of the BNP - like Le Pen they are too poisoned by anti-semitism and the hatred of non-white races to be of any use. That way lies condemnation and international ostracism, which will only further the Islamic cause. But there are other options.

Don't worry about Britain. The old girl faced a bleak prospect in 1939 - she found Winston Churchill. Soon, she will find another saviour - cometh the hour, cometh the man (or woman!).

Posted by: Matamoros at January 21, 2007 6:53 PM

The feeling is mutual. I wouldn't want to shake hands with one of them either. Their personal hygiene is more than suspect and if you do sheke their hand you better make sure that none of your fingers are missing after.

However, this woman is disregarding an English protocol for serving on an English police force. I don;t think any of us could get police jobs in the Middle East - much less make extra demands.

Tit for tat!

Posted by: MeanieMo at January 21, 2007 7:15 PM

Matamoros - "I take it from your words that you're not British"

Australian.

"But Britain is also the most violent country in Europe"

I did notice this contradiction. I was going to mention the ferals of British society but didnt wish to offend any British people.

"I apologise for beating the drum so loudly."

Please dont apologise. The thought of Britain falling to these barbarians scares the hell out of me. Many Australians have sentimental feelings for Britain although we insult each other whenever possible.

"Don't worry about Britain."

Its too horrible to contemplate the country that stood alone against Hitler going down the tubes, I hope you are right and that you win without sacrificing your good points (I regard politeness etc as a good point!)

Posted by: Deecha at January 21, 2007 8:09 PM

How long will it be before the USA has to rescue Britain and Europe again? This time though we will have to accomodate this new influx of immigrants seeking to escape the Eurabian landmass.

Posted by: TheOmegaMan at January 21, 2007 8:49 PM

In Canada we had the wife of Maher Arar run in a Federal Election for the NDP , and during a Photo-Op to show how tolerant the NDP is the Leader Jack Layton was caught on camera trying to shake her hand as she stood in the line-up of NDPers in Ottawa .
Maher's orthodox Palestinian Muslim wife refused Layton's hand shake and he looked stunned and moved on , the NDP used her because of the Anti-USA support she drew by her husbands event
to be sent to Jordan by the USA and then kidnapped by Arabs and driven to his Native Syria where he still alleges he was tortured .

The NDP gave the boot to a Aboriginal-female that couldn't support the NDP's Gay-Marriage stance , so how exactly wouold the NDP explain having a Sharia-law friendly Member in their Party that is anti-homosexual, anti-abortion, and anti-gay marriage while being Hamas friendly and anti-Israel.

Yesterday I discovered that Hillary Clinton's teams has dug up dirt on her opponent that was promoted as the possible 1st Black President , he's now said to be a Muslim that failed to mention he attended a Jihadist based Madrassa in Indo-nesia which is now a hotbed for Islamists and Jihad.
This now explains his ties to CAIR and his support for the Imam's that staged a mock hijacking to incite a complaint and then sue the Airlines. Taqqiyah is alive and well in America and a Muslim tried to pawn himself off as a Afro-American Christian.
Gotta love those witch-hunts by Democrats , they'll screw everyone equally just to get in power and stay there.

Posted by: ala-sux at January 21, 2007 10:40 PM

If she's not allowed under religious law to come in physical contact with any man other than her husband or male relatives, How can she possibly expect to serve as a police officer in a country where over 80% of all arrested are male?

How is she going to be able to hand cuff them - let alone subdue them if they become violent or decide to run?

This is absolutely ludicrous that she would even apply for a job that she knows will put her in conflict with her claimed religious beliefs & then make demands for accomodation that could put anyone she is partnered with in jeopardy.

Posted by: hiker6699 at January 22, 2007 12:54 AM

What, no full hjab to graduate as a PC? Now anyone can claim to be one 'respecting tradition' and all that.

Posted by: ThomasD at January 22, 2007 1:37 AM

A muslim woman who happens to be a police officer refuses to shake hands with the big chief because... her faith dictates that a woman must not shake hands or kiss a man other than her husband or a close relative, OH MY!!!
How did she get to become a police officer? Stupid question. Next.
Stay tuned for the other continuing story of the students on a football field calling for a special place to say their prayers. But Oh holy one, is it not forbidden by Mo to have anything to do with football?
I've had enough.

Posted by: pigtails not veils at January 22, 2007 1:40 AM

Dear Granny Weatheraxe

Nice to see you back again.
I was beginning the worry what had happened to you. I was afraid you might have had a close encounter of the Islamic kind.

Posted by: Elephant at January 22, 2007 6:30 AM

Thank you Elephant. I am keeping well and hope that you are too.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at January 22, 2007 6:48 AM

This whole thing reminds me of the burqua clad teacher who decided to don the veil in class only after landing the teaching position. It's all done for effect.

Matamoros, I pray you are right. I was born in England and now live in Canada, but the English identity and the proud history of England are imbedded in my genes and in my heart.

As for being treated by a muslim gynecologist....over my dead body !

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at January 22, 2007 8:20 AM

Why stop at refusing to come into physical contact with males? Why isn't this police constable insisting that she needs to wear a niqab while on duty too?

Posted by: waterdragon52 at January 22, 2007 9:09 AM

"62nd out of 63"

.......about the same as Muslim quality of life when compared to Western countries.....I see a similiarity....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 22, 2007 2:56 PM

Do the police forces have certain rules and regulations for behaviour and conduct and solidarity like the army has? Don't they sign like a deal with terms on it before hand? I don't know my self but they should. But I guess this woman jumped on the fact these new rules she is making never had to be made so she is making a good job stirring it up to be incorperated, why does Islam have to be so complicated.

Where you find Islam you find separatism and this is no different, call it airports, cabs, swimming pools, Mosques or crosses its like they are disabled for the fun of it.

Posted by: jesusisthelamb at January 22, 2007 8:03 PM

Matamoros,

You were going well until you stated the following:

"I'm not talking about the chimps of the BNP - like Le Pen they are too poisoned by anti-semitism and the hatred of non-white races to be of any use. That way lies condemnation and international ostracism, which will only further the Islamic cause."

This is just ill-conceived, inflammatory rhetoric. I'm not sure what the derogatory "chimps" reference is alluding to. Perhaps you are saying that the BNP is small but strong? If so, you are right, and it is growing all the time. Continuing with your puerile, non-human primate theme, soon you will be able to liken it to a gorilla.

If the BNP is "poisoned by anti-semitism" (that should be "anti-Semitism" by the way) then how come several of its members are Jewish - one of whom is a local councillor? If you don't believe me, see:

http://www.somethingjewish.co.uk/articles/1009_bnp_jewish_win.htm

If anything, your views are the ones that have been poisoned - by the media's relentless anti-BNP smear campaign.

I would much prefer the UK to be ostracised by the international community, if at the same time my family and I could travel on a train or bus without fear of being blown up by some Muslim jihadist who hated us even though he didn't know us.

You are deluding yourself if you think a saviour will magically appear. The "main" political parties are paralysed by political correctness as they fight over the centre ground, thereby leaving millions disenfranchised.

The BNP is the only solution.

Posted by: watling at January 23, 2007 12:51 PM