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Will they play Dhimmi For A Day also?
Notice, in any case, that they say they didn't get any harsh comments or other rough treatment. So much for "Islamophobia" on the NC State campus.
"Non-Muslim students experience a day 'Behind the Veil,'" by Maggie Luckadoo in The Technician, with thanks to PRCS:
As participants in "Behind the Veil," 28 non-Muslim female students learned about life as Muslim women as they wore head dresses, or hijabs, on Wednesday."Behind the Veil," an event Sara Yasin, a junior in textile and apparel management, said she thought up last summer, invited students to experience firsthand the life of Muslim women by mirroring their attire for a day, which includes covering their hair and entire bodies minus their faces and hands.
Yasin encouraged participants to abide by Muslim guidelines, such as not eating pork or drinking alcohol when wearing the hijab.
Wednesday evening, the organizers of the event along with a panel of female Muslim students sat to talk to the participants about past experiences and impressions from the day.
While one student said she participated "out of sheer curiosity," Meghan Witzke, a junior in graphic design, said she participated because she thought it was an interesting concept.
"I didn't get any kind of weird looks [while wearing the hijab]," she said.
Witzke said she sensed people were looking at her less than when her hair is uncovered, which she guessed was out of respect.
She said understanding the lives of Muslim women wearing hijabs on a daily basis could not be achieved without experiencing it firsthand.
"It doesn't feel like you're hiding yourself," she said. "It doesn't feel like you're ashamed. It feels like you're proud."
Ayesha Ali, a senior in elementary education and member of the panel, noted that people are forced to get to know those wearing hijabs for their personalities instead of outward appearances.
Katherine Sammis, a freshman in First Year College, also participated in "Behind the Veil."
"I was not apprehensive when I walked out [of my residence hall] because I've seen how accepted [Muslim students are on campus]," she said.
Sarah Oraby, a junior in biomedical engineering and member of the panel, said the University is supportive of the Muslim Student Association.
"I feel I am a part of the community," she said.
Sammis said that although no one made comments about her head covering, she did see reactions among her classmates.
"In some of my classes, I walked in late and everyone turned and looked," she said.
Well, I was in college many, many years ago, but I remember once walking in late to a class and everyone turned and looked at me -- and I wasn't even wearing hijab.
Posted by Robert at February 2, 2007 5:21 AM
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In "The language of clothes" by Alison Laurie, she says that clothes are a powerful form of non-verbal communication.
Clothes are the first way that people communicate with others, even before they even utter a word. The fabric, colours, style, everything that you wear or don't wear speaks volumes to other people.
The veil especially the niqab which covers everything has always struck me as perverse in it's obliteration of an individual's right to speak through their clothes.
It's as though you put duct tape over a woman's mouth and refused to let her speak.
This whole idea that people respect you more if you are not allowed to express your individuality through your clothes is Orwellian doublespeak.
If male society respects women who are covered in a black tent more than women who wear western dress, then how come Condoleeza Rice is secretary of state while wearing those "shocking" western clothes while women in Saudi Arabia still can't even drive!
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at February 2, 2007 5:52 AM
I'm waiting for a male moslem experience day:
I'm looking forward to
- being able to letch and grope any woman not modestly attired, whenever I feel like.
- being able to hate jews and isreal and have no one calling me judeophobic but in fact accomodating my views
- being able to marry a few more girls
- being able to feel superior to every kaffur
- going on a trip to display my superiority by cutting the head of some random school girl on the way to school. or maybe the head off some random shop keeper whose shop I want (maybe he sells alcohol?).
- and to finish off by moaning about what a victom I am at the hands of islamophobic primitive decadent westerners.
at February 2, 2007 6:15 AM
How about a special day for NC State female Muslims where they don't wear a veil, hijab or potato sack and start off the day with a nice bacon and eggs breakfast? IOW is this just a one way street for the Mohammedans?
at February 2, 2007 6:17 AM
The Muslims pathetically ape Muhammad and they want infidels to imitate them.
Posted by: dennisw at February 2, 2007 6:20 AM
Sounds to me like this 'experiment' barely even went halfway...
To REALLY experience what it's like to live 'behind the veil', these women should have to subject themselves to clitorectomies, the humiliation of being given away by a father for marriage at a tender age, the threat of beatings by a husband, the ever-present threat of being the victim of an honor killing, no right to vote, hell - no rights PERIOD, no more education, and no more walking around town without a male relative to babysit you. Oh yeah, and better hope and pray you never get raped, or you'll be stoned to death for adultery unless you can find 4 male muslims to verify it for you.
I mean, c'mon... if we're going to have a class where women can experience the BEAUTY *cough choke* of wearing the veil, let's base it in reality and get the FULL experience.
Posted by: JenBee at February 2, 2007 6:28 AM
""It doesn't feel like you're hiding yourself," she said. "It doesn't feel like you're ashamed. It feels like you're proud."
....and this is intelligence of the future of America??...
....obviously this misguided bird has not researched just how badly Muslim women are treated under the Peaceful Religion of Islam...
...perhaps she should view some films of beatings,stonings, canings, torture or even the murder of the women at the hands of their brothers,husbands,neighbors,or even their parents....It happens every day...
...Stupid students, dhimmified already and don't even know what it means....
at February 2, 2007 6:32 AM
"She said understanding the lives of Muslim women wearing hijabs on a daily basis could not be achieved without experiencing it firsthand."
Yeah that should do it. Understanding the lives of muslim women, I mean. Though I doubt that she will actually understand what life is like for a muslim women, and how she sees everything from the prism of islam.
Posted by: arjun.sevak at February 2, 2007 6:44 AM
"She said understanding the lives of Muslim women wearing hijabs on a daily basis could not be achieved without experiencing it firsthand."
Yeah that should do it. Understanding the lives of muslim women, I mean. Though I doubt that she will actually understand what life is like for a muslim women, and how she sees everything through the prism of islam.
Posted by: arjun.sevak at February 2, 2007 6:44 AM
This is pc non- sense. Hiding in a burqa will teach you nothing! If you want to know what it is to be Moslem, let's play Eid El-Fir we can fast all day and the crown of the day can be when we cut the throat of sheep. As Ali, a Malmo European Swede, recently described the ritual:
"I have a very good Swedish friend who has a farm,” he says. “There, I buy sheep from him, and he provides me with an indoor place where I can perform the sacrifices, in the traditional Muslim way, using a very sharp knife to slit their throats and reciting the Bismillah over the animal. There are very important rituals that we follow; first of all, never to slaughter an animal in front of another and never skin one in front of another that is alive. Second, we offer the animal water before the sacrifice. And third, we should not wield the knife in front of the animal to be slaughtered, but firmly and swiftly slit the neck with minimum hesitation.”
Do the ritual outside. Let the community know what it is to be a practicing Moslem.
Notice the compassion and the mercy, the Moslem will very carefully give water, before slitting the throat!
at February 2, 2007 7:13 AM
One must wonder how these privileged, Western, 'Muslima's for a day' can be so stupid.
Let's start a collection to send the proudest, loudest, and most emboldened member of the group to a tribal area in Waziristan or Helmand province for a week or two; where they can experience the full splendor of a woman's life under shari'a law.
Posted by: PRCS at February 2, 2007 7:27 AM
I think they should have a Wear A Toga Day so that they can know what it feels like to be a Roman Emporer.
Since we're going ancient and all.
Posted by: Borg at February 2, 2007 7:35 AM
It doesn't feel like you're hiding yourself," she said. "It doesn't feel like you're ashamed. It feels like you're proud."
I suppose its the same pride as a KKK member would have felt
Posted by: doubtingthomas at February 2, 2007 7:57 AM
Bravo, JenBee !
You said exactly what I was thinking. Yep, just wearing a headscarf for a day will really give these idiotic girls a true taste of what it means to be a good muslima.
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at February 2, 2007 8:28 AM
Great-judging from the reactions these students don't seem to think being a Muslim woman is a big deal. I wonder how many will convert or marry a wonderful Muslim man after getting a misleading view of living la vida loca?
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at February 2, 2007 8:49 AM
In addition, each non-Muslim should have been required to fork over 25% of whatever was in their purses/wallets, so they could more truly experience a Muslim society as a non-Muslim.
Posted by: Conservatarian at February 2, 2007 8:54 AM
Something tells me these students wouldn't have lasted two hours if this experiment took place in the ummah. Most of them probably would have been stoned immediately for inadvertantly showing too much skin for openers-the rest would have been in trouble for other "infractions". Now THAT would have given them a good experience in being a Muslim woman.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at February 2, 2007 9:37 AM
Yes, payment of the Jizyah would have been fun.
And the way it should have been conducted is this. First, have only the real Muslim students demanding the payment of Jizyah from the real non-Muslim students. Make it as large a payment as would have been the real Jizyah, one that inflicts a real burden. Say, make students hand over cash from their parents, or several months' rent, or the title to their car. (All in good fun, of course, all for the purposes of pedagogy). Have students role-play as Muslims and dhimmis: let a Muslim take something from a non-Muslim student, or push him down on the ground, or start pawing at his girlfriend. Something small, just to give a taste. Now inform the non-Muslim student that he has simply no right to retaliate, no right, either, to sue the offending Muslim student. Make sure, by the way, that non-Muslim students always give way to Muslims, as they walk down the hall, standing aside, meekly. Do everything to provide equivalents to the real behavior forced upon non-Muslims in a Muslim-dominated society. Read aloud from the Muslim texts, or from the texts of Western scholars of the dhimmi condition,such as Antoine Fattal's study of the legal condition of non-Muslims under Islma (and what samaritan will pay to have that book translated?).
Then offer to the non-Muslim students the possibiliyt of "becoming Muslims," and instead of paying the Jizyah, to receive the Jizyah, instead of being the object of Muslim bullying, being able to bully, without any repercussions, those who are non-Muslims, instead of having to stand meekly aside, or to endure a dozen other ways of being humiliated and degraded (ask the students to come up with ways to do that -- they'll be quite creative), they now have the chance not to take it any longer. And some may actually find that they will also want to dish it out. Yes, there will be plenty of "voluntary reversions" to Islam among the students after they have role-played the parts of Muslims and non-Muslims for a day or two. And that should be instructive.
Yes, indeed, that will teach them something of how lands once entirley non-Muslim, and conquered by a very small group of Muslims -- in Mesopotamia, and Syria, and Judea, and Egypt, and the rest of North Africa, and in Persia, and Anatolia, and beyond to Hindustan and East Asia -- nonetheless, over time, became in many cases almomst totally Muslim (with holdouts here and there: the Maronites, the Copts, the Maronites, the Jews who spread out in Dar al-Islam or more distantly, in certain parts of Dar al-Harb) in-gathered in modern Israel), or where the number of non-Muslims was too great (as in Hindustan), despite mass killings, the Muslims always remained a minority of slave-masters (the same people who, at the Mughal Court, became the object of such upscale but still recognizably Barbara-Cartlandish treatment at the hands of such romance-novellette historians as William Dalrymple).
A lesson. A lesson for everyone.
Posted by: Hugh at February 2, 2007 9:47 AM
I think this class is on to a great idea to promote multicultural understanding! Of course everyone should have to participate. Since the non-Muslim women experience what it's like to spend the day in hijab, the Muslim women should have to spend the same day in tank-tops and miniskirts. After all, it would be Islamophobic discrimination to deny the Muslim women an equal learning experience as their non-Muslim sisters.
Posted by: Provoslavni at February 2, 2007 10:10 AM
"They could spend a whole day going around with hairy legs, wearing hot pants, a tight T-shirt, no bra, smoking a reefer and swigging Jack Daniels from the bottle, while perched on the pillion seat of a Harley Davidson, with a Lesbian 'Sister' with a safety-pin through her left nostril, at the handles and doing wheelstands, just to see if you've got what it takes to get into the Conciousness Raising Workshop that evening"
Oh, Mother, Mother - you are too much!
Posted by: allat at February 2, 2007 12:29 PM
I fear that the vast majority of young Americans in the approximate age range of 14-20 are instinctively and passionately inclined to this kind of PC nonsense, seeing in Muslims a vague representative of the cool ethnic "world culture" of all of us "getting along" -- with anyone suggesting otherwise being a "bigot" and probably also a shill for the WTO "globalists".
Posted by: remote_control at February 2, 2007 2:16 PM
Perhaps we could check into getting Ms. Witzke a position working for a nice Saudi family for a month or so. She could 1.) Turn over her passport and/or drivers license for safe-keeping , 2.) work 80 hrs/week 3.) sleep in the basement, 4.) fend off sexual advances (if she's feisty enough) from male family members, 5.) have her hair pulled and be biatch-slapped by female family members if they don't like the way she does her job 6.) recieve only a small portion of the promised salary 7.) never leave the property.....
Posted by: MP at February 2, 2007 2:54 PM
In a related note: Not to be outdone by NC State and their 'Behind the Veil' Day, the staff at University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill has decided to designate a 'Behind the Wheel' day to promote better understanding of former student/jihadi Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar.
Participants will practice driving rented Sport Utility Vehicles into crowds of dirty kaffur students to get perspective on the stresses of being an oppressed Muslim in the bilad al kufr.
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at February 2, 2007 3:01 PM
"Yasin encouraged participants to abide by Muslim guidelines, such as not eating pork or drinking alcohol when wearing the hijab."
she forgot being half-brained so not being able to attend university because too busy breeding and being illiterate
"Witzke said she sensed people were looking at her less than when her hair is uncovered, which she guessed was out of respect."
no witzke, it is because they thought you have mustache under your burka
Posted by: StillFedUp at February 2, 2007 3:21 PM
Someone tell me, if my kids do online university degrees, do they avoid all this NONSENSE???
Posted by: RerumNovarum at February 2, 2007 4:39 PM
Wow am I to understand that these young women had the choice whether to participate or not. What an enightened bunch of scholars. They experienced on their own the same thing the children in Nyssa Oregon at age 12 and 13 were forced to do. A muslim for a day, who comes up with this stuff. The nobel peace prize hasn't been awarded yet has it. We should all be allowed to feel what it is to be a Mooslem. Lets declare February 14th not Valentines day but be a Muslim day. We could purchase burkas and hijabs for the women and towels and ski masks for the men. Screw Cupid honor Allah.
Posted by: MadMom at February 2, 2007 11:26 PM
why no buddhist experience days? no hindu hare krishna days? live life as a jehovahs witness or a sikh week? (hey that rhymes.)
always has to be living as a muslim now? why this sudden change in psycology/culture. we need to understand muslims? why its a stupid cult. this is really freaking me out!
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at February 4, 2007 11:16 PM
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