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Anti-dhimmitude in the UK. Note the Tablighi Jamaat involvement. "Supermosque for 70,000 'will be blocked,'" by Ben Leapman and Jonathan Wynne-Jones in the Sunday Telegraph (thanks to Kasper):
Controversial plans to build a "supermosque" on the doorstep of the London Olympics will be blocked by the Government. Alan Craig, Newham councillor, concerned about the supermosque Alan Craig is concerned about the security impactRuth Kelly's Whitehall department is expected to refuse planning permission for the London Markaz, which would be the biggest religious building in Britain with room for 70,000 worshippers.
Backers want the £300 million mosque, in east London, to serve as a reception centre for athletes and fans from Islamic countries during the 2012 games.
The group behind the plans is Tablighi Jamaat, a Muslim missionary sect whose charitable trust, Anjuman-e-Islahul Muslimeen, has owned the 18-acre site since 1996. Tablighi Jamaat was called "an ante-chamber for fundamentalism" by French security services. Two of the July 7 London suicide bombers are believed to have attended one of its mosques.
The organisation denies any link to terrorism, and has never been banned....
Until now, it was thought that planners would rubber-stamp the proposed mosque, which was agreed in principle in a 2001 deal between Newham Council and Anjuman-e-Islahul Muslimeen.
Good to see that's changing.
Posted by Robert at February 18, 2007 4:44 AM
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Just choked on my corn flakes.
Posted by: grobari
at February 18, 2007 5:11 AM
Great news glad to read this. I wonder what else they can use the land for.
Posted by: payingattention
at February 18, 2007 5:17 AM
Don't worry, folks, there's plenty of time for them to change their minds again and rubber-stamp the plans anyway. And there will be plenty of Islamist and Dhimmi pressure groups working full time to try to get them to do just that.
Posted by: enemyofislam
at February 18, 2007 5:19 AM
A dare say a couple of well placed bombs will bring the UK government round.
Posted by: whatwouldstalindo
at February 18, 2007 5:26 AM
Great news glad to read this. I wonder what else they can use the land for.
Posted by: payingattention at February 18, 2007 05:17 AM
Pig races !
at February 18, 2007 5:27 AM
"Alan Craig is concerned about the security impact"
What does this mean??
I hope he means that they are going to knuckle down on islamonazis and stop the growth of mosques which are just a meeting and recruitment ground for jihadis. I am certain they have little religious value.
As to what they can use the land for I suggest a Judeo-Christian institution!
Even a place of worship. How about a temple dedicated to the west's achievements in civilization. (we could even include a tiny room showcasing the achievements of islam - a very tiny room of course!)
Posted by: Gramfan
at February 18, 2007 5:55 AM
In my crystal ball I can see a lot of howling and whingeing polit-props who see their pound of flesh going down the gurgler...
Is this final? I doubt it!
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at February 18, 2007 6:12 AM
Indigi Public Affairs is lobbying for the mosque on behalf of the group.
http://www.indigopa.com/INDIGO/index.php
How can they sell out like this ?
Posted by: apostate_islam
at February 18, 2007 6:52 AM
This block will last oh about a week, the dhimmis in power will succumb and the super fortress will be silently approved.
Posted by: km
at February 18, 2007 7:01 AM
Excellent piece of news.
Even if it is not finally canned now, it Just needs to be delayed long enough to stop any chance of it being completed by the time of the Olympics. The money will then silently disappear.
Posted by: Brett_McS
at February 18, 2007 7:49 AM
That's one heck of a huge mosque. The Aztecs had a much cheaper way of riling up the masses. Just construct a pyramid, a Temple to the Sun, and preach from there and conduct your important business (human sacrifice) from there
Posted by: dennisw
at February 18, 2007 8:18 AM
What happens if the city planners remain firm and the mosque is not built at all? Will we see a repeat of the 1972 Munich Olympic disaster, probably worse, supported a large majority of British Muslims because the building where they could gather in 'peace' was denied to them?
Posted by: maryrose
at February 18, 2007 9:17 AM
A mosk a security concern? Say it isn't so....
at February 18, 2007 9:18 AM
"Backers want the £300 million mosque, in east London, to serve as a reception centre for athletes and fans from Islamic countries during the 2012 games."
A reception area for athletes and fans from Islamic countries?
Looking at the history of the Olympic games, this reception area could be much, much smaller. The Islamic countries haven't been that much of a major player in sporting events....They've been too busy fighting.
at February 18, 2007 9:22 AM
Alan Craig? Who on earth does this man think he is? He urgently needs to have a chat with Prince Charles, who, no doubt, will be eager to set him straight.
Posted by: Anthony
at February 18, 2007 9:31 AM
When will that "superSynagogue" for 70,000 be going up in Mecca?
Posted by: TINBH
at February 18, 2007 11:20 AM
personally, i am dreading the 2012 games. i fail to see how they can be anything but a PR disaster for the UK, and the terror-fest opportunity of the decade. and that is just when i am feeling optimistic.
however, i do applaud this news and hope that the decision will be made firmly, and will then stick in place. not having the Supermosque next to the stadium will mean that there will be one less terror threat to worry about.
at February 18, 2007 12:07 PM
You mean to tell me that the most holiest site in Britian and 10,551st holiest site in all of Islam is not going to have a mosque built on this sacred land?? Uh-oh, I smell trouble...
Posted by: William The Crusader
at February 18, 2007 12:21 PM
Who are these "Islamic fans"? I thought merely watching soccer on television was a shooting offense, just ask the Islamic Courts Union. Besides, there are so few Islamic athletes, almost entirely from North Africa, that I can't imagine we'd need a 70k capacity mosque to house their fans.
Posted by: aynrandgirl
at February 18, 2007 12:40 PM
The Olympic stadium itself will likely not hold more than 70,000 spectators. Perhaps a few more than that, but not that much more I wouldn't imagine.
Maybe the fans from Islamic countries just want to be close to the action when another Muslim soccer player head butts someone on the opposing team for saying something bad about his mama.
This mosk should be blocked, period. Not just because of the Olympics, but because of the security concerns and the preaching of hatred for the UK and the West it will no doubt also be used for.
Many of the Imams and clerics in the U.K. should be blocked and banned along with this mosk being blocked.
Posted by: DCWatson
at February 18, 2007 2:55 PM
In Canada the Saudis are backing the building of a superMosque in the Oil Patch area of Alberta, this at a time whne Al-Qeada called on Muslims to attack canada's Oil and Gas resouorses to harm the flow to the USA.
Just last June 17 Sunni-Muslims males ( btw, islam had nothing to do with it) were arrested for plotting to slaughter thousands with 6600lbs of amonium nitrate in truck-bombs .
The problem with this massive Mosque close the the Oil pipeline and production plants is that there are about 1200 Muslims in total that will be attending that Mosque , so riddle me this....if CAIR and their ilk always harp about the poverty and unemployment amongst Muslims because of Racism and Islamophobia...then where is all this money coming from when CAIR denies any link to Whahabbi Islamist funding from the Saudis.
These are more like land-grabs to claim the soil for Allah and then expand their reach Socially to dominate the region and then demand a Caliphate via Jihad and terrorism to get their way for a Islamic State within a non-Islamic Nation.
Posted by: ala-sux
at February 18, 2007 3:16 PM
"10,551st holiest site in all of Islam...."
-- from a posting above
You said it.
Posted by: Hugh
at February 18, 2007 5:46 PM
I don't know if a terrorist attack will help the cause of the supermosque. 7/7 woke up Britain. Only for a short while I know, but it woke the country up nevertheless. I think Tablighi Jamaat understands the consequences of such an attack.
On another note, if things go the way they are going in Britain and Europe, then Robert can make up a '1940 alert' when there are more terror attacks. 1940 was the year England suffered from the Blitz.
Posted by: wrathofasma
at February 18, 2007 6:53 PM
Excellent news. I think the British Government (MY government, but not my choice of government) is finally beginning to get the message.
Perhaps after the next election we can begin repatriation of these unwanted barbarians.
at February 18, 2007 7:03 PM
'...agreed in principle in...2001'
I wonder happened in between, to change the Council's collective mind.
And what's with the '...reception centre for athletes and fans from Islamic countries...'
Sport, like most of human existence and aspiration, is completely un-Islamic.
Posted by: Dane
at February 18, 2007 7:14 PM
Great news glad to read this. I wonder what else they can use the land for.
Posted by: payingattention
Pig racing!
at February 18, 2007 7:58 PM
Apropos Olympics. They really should have their own Olympics. Call it the jihad olympics.
I think I recall seeing a list of islamic competitions a few months ago.
But since it's so much fun - and in the Olympic spirit of inclusion:
1. Burkabag races
2. burkabag diving and water polo.
3. Stone throwing
4. Loud hollering
Please feel free to add additional disciplines that the islamos might have a particular aptitude for.
Posted by: Allahfanculo
at February 18, 2007 8:07 PM
Allahfanculo, you forgot "Target Shooting the sky".
Posted by: Brett_McS
at February 18, 2007 8:28 PM
Stories like this provide us with an excellent opportunity to explain the retroactive assertions of Islam that turn history on its head.
I know it helped me to "cross-over" when I realized that the "Islamic Jesus" had nothing to do with the Jesus described in the New Testament and that Abraham, Moses, and Jesus were all considered to be Muslims.
The difference between Jihad and the Beatitudes could not be any more different. Jesus as Jihadist is laughable. PC culture means you don't question the premises of other religions. Retroactive Islam is the most direct affront to this rule that I am aware of. Use the contradiction, and see if we can't get more people to wake up.
Posted by: JSobieski
at February 19, 2007 12:06 AM
Poor Ken Livingston.
He will certainly lose face and votes and constituents.
Is it possible the British have, at the very last moment, come to their senses? Is it too late?
M.O.T.
Posted by: M.O.T.
at February 19, 2007 12:53 AM
Dear Allahfanculo
Flag burning would be a popular event.
Posted by: Elephant
at February 19, 2007 5:07 AM
Assalamau Laikum all,
Well I am disappointed about this. I think a huge opportunity for integration has been missed by the short-sightness of the said government.
Athletes, especially islamic could have gained much soccour from this.
Peoples visiting the games could also visit the mosque before and during the games. It could have been a showpiece of Islamic peace.
Hopefully Mr. Brown/Cameron will see this differently...I guess there will be no movement from Mr. Blair.
If there is no movement from the authorities on this then I think they should convert it to a graveyard with loudspeaker accessed services. Let it serve the muslim community in this way.
I suppose you will say "Yes, Nothing quite like a graveyard to welcome athletes to the games...but they have to use it in some way".
But since you have graveyards in your church backyards I don't see that you can much objection to this.
I just hope that they don't sell the land on to make a fast buck...capitilism is against the just principles of Islam.
Posted by: Naseem
at February 19, 2007 6:03 AM
Peoples visiting the games could also visit the mosque before and during the games. It could have been a showpiece of Islamic peace.
Posted By Naseem of course.
What Islamic peace is that then Naseem, you mean the daily calls to kill and subjugate the kuffa.
Give me and everyone else here a break.
Posted by: km
at February 19, 2007 7:35 AM
I am an Englishman and, unfortunately, I do not want to see a monstrous building for any faith (and certainly not an alien religion) being erected in my capital city. As for Mr. Naseem, his posting makes as much sense as the one of his I have altered.
Ass Likum all,
Well I am disappointed about this. I think a huge opportunity for intefada has been missed by the short-sightness of the saudi government.
Athletes, especially iclandic could have gained much soccer from this.
Popes visiting the games could also visit the mosquito before and during the games. It could have been a showpiece of Islamic pace.
Hopefully Mr. Brown/Cameron will see this differently...I guess there will be no movement from Mr. Blair. (Anal retentive?)
If there is no movement from the authorities on this then I think they should convert it to a gravyboat with loudspeaker accessed services. Let it serve the muscleman community in this way.
I suppose you will say "Yes, Nothing quite like a gravyboat to welcome athletes to the games...but they have to abuse it in some way".
But since you have graveyards in your church backyards I don't see that you can much objection to this.
I just hope that they don't sell the land on to make a fast buick...decapitation is the just principles of Islam.
Thank you please.
at February 19, 2007 8:26 AM
I doubt we have seen the last of the supermosque. Undoubtedly we will see the usual whining by the muslims about how hard done by they are and the government will fold. Sadly these people portray themselves as victims even when they are the violent aggressors because the founder of their religion used exactly the same tactics. I believe it is called taqiya? Look what happened after 7/7 in the UK, the muslims immediately started complaining about how bad we were and how innocent they were. This is a technique NOT a genuine feeling of victimisation. Muslims have done very well out of the muslim bombings in this country. Rather than put off muslims from killing innocent people the UK government has bent over backwards to try and appease the muslims, they now know that killing innocent people will help them gain power as long as they shout loudly enough afterwards about how hard done by they are.
Wake up and smell the sharia.
at February 19, 2007 12:57 PM
How about using the land instead for a memorial to the thousands of innocent victims murdered by jihadists?
A giant one finger salute pointing towards Mecca would do nicely.
Posted by: watling
at February 19, 2007 12:58 PM
Let us also remember that the Labour government are truly afraid of losing the next election which will happen before the 2012 olympics. They have suddenly started talking "tough" etc. DO NOT BE FOOLED, once they have won the election the mega mosque will be right back on course. REMEMBER, the UK government are criminals and traitors. This is not only my opinion, it is backed up by facts, e.g. transporting islamic terrorists captured abroad to the UK so that they are not executed in the country they attacked. THEN releasing these islamonazis onto the streets of the UK to continue their jihad against the west.
When will the world wake up to the fact that these people are schizophrenic in their approach. They truly believe they are innocent when they kill, and they believe they are innocent because killing a non-muslim is a good thing.
It's time we got some top psychologists to investigate and report on the basis of this thought process. Of course we will not see anyone brave enough. As we all know, any suggestion that islam is NOT a peacefull religion is met with murder.
Religion of peace? I don't think so.
Posted by: DaveMate
at February 19, 2007 1:17 PM
Muslim organizations and mosques that have proven ties to terrorist groups, or preachers like those exposed in the Dispatches program in England, should have their imams expelled and all property and assets seized.
Perhaps seizing such assets will motivate the politicians, giving them an new source of revenue.
Posted by: elcordobes
at February 19, 2007 2:03 PM
Cheers for Ruth Kelly! Brits, you may have another Maggie Thatcher in the wings at Whitehall. We need to encourage people like that.
Posted by: Jimmy Bones
at February 19, 2007 2:07 PM
on a lighter note, i read with glee on the BBC web site about the arrest of one of those human vermin that tried to bomb london. guys this is funny......
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6376819.stm
"One officer said he punched Mr Omar, who was standing in the bath fully clothed, as hard as he could in the face while another repeatedly stunned him with a Taser gun.
At one point another officer had the safety catch off his sub-machine gun and was aiming his weapon at the back of Mr Omar's head.
Identified as PC 7512, he told the court: "In all honesty, I still don't know to this day how I did not shoot him."
now this is more of the police state i'd welcome in dealing with these "guests" to our ancient lands. more of this please.
at February 19, 2007 7:10 PM
Maryrose: I thought of the exact opposite. If they build the mosque,(I'm christian but have great respect for the jews)during the next olympics, it could be Munich 1972 all over again. DC, all those fine islamic athletes and family members could fit into about a 70 capacity room.
Posted by: mustang65
at February 19, 2007 11:33 PM
DO not be silly,let them build it,fillit to ,or above capacity,an then ....KABOOOM..,I jst wish it was reusable .
Posted by: commonsenser
at February 20, 2007 11:45 AM
from Naseem:
"I just hope that they don't sell the land on to make a fast buck...capitilism is against the just principles of Islam."
You just nailed it pal!
This is precisely why so few of us are interested in your "opportunity for integration" -- i.e. it isn't an 'opportunity for integration'.
It would only only be a opportunity for people to spread anti-western propaganda -- and specifically propaganda that will prevent the "integration" of mohammedans into western society.
It would better be described as an opportunity for rejection. -- specifically rejection of the west and of modernity.
Capitalism is just.
Capitalism is good.
Capitalism is productive.
Capitalism is is one of the basic animating principles of our societies.
Capitalism is is why the west is rich, pleasant and effective. And its rejection is why the mohammedan societies are poor, oppressive and struggling!
And most of all capitalism is an expression and exercise of FREEDOM.
So if, as you say, "capitilism is against the just principles of Islam." then I for sure don't want any "integration".
And, for the sake of your coreligionists you better be wrong, or else wherever mohammedanism goes in this world, poverty and suffering will follow.
Because it's precisely the capitalism you disaprove of that is providing all the wealth and ease of the modern world.
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To everyone else: Sorry to get all emphatic but this couldn't pass unanswered.
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BTW Naseem: It's spelled CAPITALISM with an A.
Posted by: joeblough
at February 20, 2007 6:46 PM
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