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Justified by Islamic law, and defended by besotted multiculturalists.
By Nina Bernstein in the New York Times, with thanks to all who sent this in:
She worked at the Red Lobster in Times Square and lived with her husband near Yankee Stadium. Yet one night, returning home from her job, Odine D. discovered that African custom, not American law, held sway over her marriage.A strange woman was sitting in the living room, and Ms. D.’s husband, a security guard born in Ghana, introduced her as his other wife.
Devastated, Ms. D., a Guinean immigrant who insisted that her last name be withheld, said she protested: “I can’t live with the woman in my house — we have only two bedrooms.” Her husband cited Islamic precepts allowing a man to have up to four wives, and told her to get used to it. And she tried to obey.
It's not just Islamic law. It's in the Qur'an: "Marry women of your choice, two or three or four..." (4:3).
Polygamy in America, outlawed in every state but rarely prosecuted, has long been associated with Mormon splinter groups out West, not immigrants in New York. But a fatal fire in a row house in the Bronx on March 7 revealed its presence here, in a world very different from the suburban Utah setting of “Big Love,” the HBO series about polygamists next door....No one knows how prevalent polygamy is in New York. Those who practice it have cause to keep it secret: under immigration law, polygamy is grounds for exclusion from the United States....
No agency is known to collect data on polygamous unions, which typically take shape over time and under the radar, often with religious ceremonies overseas and a visitor’s visa for the wife, arranged by other relatives. Some men have one wife in the United States and others abroad.
But the Magassas clearly are not an isolated case. Immigration to New York and other American cities has soared from places where polygamy is lawful and widespread, especially from West African countries like Mali, where demographic surveys show that 43 percent of women are in polygamous marriages.
And the picture that emerges from dozens of interviews with African immigrants, officials and scholars of polygamy is of a clandestine practice that probably involves thousands of New Yorkers.
“It’s difficult, but one accepts it because it’s our religion,” said Doussou Traoré, 52, president of an association of Malian women in New York, who married an older man with two other wives who remain in Mali. “Our mothers accepted it. Our grandmothers accepted it. Why not us?”
Other women spoke bitterly of polygamy. They said their participation was dictated by an African culture of female subjugation and linked polygamy to female genital cutting and domestic violence. That view is echoed by most research on plural marriages, including studies of West African immigrants in France, where the government estimates that 120,000 people live in 20,000 polygamous families.
“The woman is in effect the slave of the man,” said a stylish Guinean businesswoman in her 40s who, like many women interviewed in Harlem and the Bronx, spoke on the condition of anonymity. “If you protest, your husband will hit you, and if you call the police, he’s going to divorce you, and the whole community will scorn you.”
“Even me,” she added. “My husband went to find another wife in Africa, and he has the right to do that. They tell you nothing, until one afternoon he says, ‘O.K., your co-wife arrives this evening.’ ”...
Don’t-ask-don’t-know policies prevail in many agencies that deal with immigrant families in New York, perhaps because there is no framework for addressing polygamy in a city that prides itself on tolerance of religious, cultural and sexual differences — and on support for human rights and equality....
If they really cared about human rights and equality, they would object to women treated as chattel.
Obligatory "This Has Nothing To Do With Islam" disclaimer paragraph:
Islam is often cited as the authority that allows polygamy. But in Africa, the practice is a cultural tradition that crosses religious lines, while some Muslim lands elsewhere sharply restrict it. The Koran says a man should not take more than one wife if he cannot treat them all equally — a very high bar, many Muslims say....
And finally, a hint of demographic conquest:
“I know a lady who lives with her husband and another woman in one room, a two-bedroom, with 11 kids,” she said. “I tell her, she has to move — it’s not a life.” And her own husband? His second wife is 23 now, with three children. And recently, Ms. Kante said, he married a third.
Polygamy is illegal in the United States. These people should be prosecuted and deported. Those who are already in polygamous arrangements should not be allowed in -- just as anyone who adheres to any aspect of Sharia that is at variance with the U.S. Constitution and American law should not be allowed in. Otherwise, why have such laws at all?
Posted by Robert at March 25, 2007 4:56 PM
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Well when he can beat them hollow and be given dispensation from the courts ,then we will be getting somewhere
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at March 25, 2007 5:16 PM
This is just the sort of immigration fraud that should get a country dropped from the Diversity Visa program.
I've quoted you and linked to you here: http://consul-at-arms.blogspot.com/2007/03/re-in-secret-polygamy-follows-africans.html
Posted by: Consul-At-Arms at March 25, 2007 5:26 PM
"... why have such laws at all?"
Laws keep us law-abiding folks in our place (as dhimmis) ... nothing more.
It's time the government starting working for its citizens, not against them.
at March 25, 2007 5:29 PM
The day will come when the Asians just stop loaning us money.
Do the math. A security guard probably makes $30k in New York and pays just about zero Federal taxes. If he works above board, he will receive the earned income tax credit. It costs $10k/yr to send a kid to public school so, if 14 kids make it through high school, we will have ‘invested’ 14 times 12 times $10k = $1.7 million in his children’s education.
Figure an average medical bill of $5k/kid/year. Our medical investment in his family through the age 18 is then 114 times 18 times $5k = $1.3 million. Guess who’s buying the food and subsidizing the apartment?
So we’ve bought a security guard for $3 million plus. The average Ghanan IQ is 71. There are 4.5 billion people in the world poorer than the average Mexican. Unsustainable.
http://www.isteve.com/IQ_Table.htm
at March 25, 2007 6:31 PM
In Islam, you tell your wife of any extracurricular activities you may be engaged in outside the house. This is a legal requirement. Treating all your wives with Justice is a must. Compare that with western ideology that says it is okay to have ONE wife before the law and also 4 or 5 or more mistresses behind her back (it’s passed off lightly as cheating). Whether we like it or not, polygamy is the solution to a lot of society’s problems.
Posted by: Abdullah at March 25, 2007 6:58 PM
"Whether we like it or not, polygamy is the solution to a lot of society’s problems.
Posted by: Abdullah "
Sure it is Abdullah!!
And please explain how you are going to solve all the welfare/education/health expenses that this idiotic and primitive practice will eventually lead to?
Having a mistress is nothing new in the West as we know. Prince Charles is a classic example: one of many aristocrats who have indulged themselves for centuries.
However, you may find that many men who do have mistresses are able to afford them.
Polygamy suits the man. I doubt many women would enjoy it.
And by the same logic do you think a woman should have several husbands? If not, why not?
The men would hate this, right? No one would ever be sure who fathered which child unless they had DNA tests.
at March 25, 2007 7:15 PM
Let's all just look the other way until the demographic conquest is irreversable.
It works great with illegal immigration.
(12 million admitted and counting...)
Why not polygamy?
And next polyandry.
And then incest, bestiality and cannibalism.
Balkans, ho!
Posted by: profitsbeard at March 25, 2007 7:41 PM
From the article:
Our mothers accepted it. Our grandmothers accepted it. Why not us?
Another fine example of the benefits of inshallah fatalism. Don't question whether it is good for the women, don't think about whether it makes financial sense (as Pez showed) for a society to support these polygamists' lifestyle. That's just the way it has always been, and that's the way it will always be. Live your life according to 7th century standards, forever.
if you call the police, he’s going to divorce you, and the whole community will scorn you
"The whole community". Obviously the community of infidels will not scorn them. So, when they say "the whole community", they are referring to Muslims. Their own words, the way they live their lives, makes it clear they do not consider themselves part of our society. They may live here, but their goal is not integration.
But a fatal fire in a row house in the Bronx on March 7 revealed its presence here
Revealed it to whom? The news media studiously avoided mentioning polygamy in covering the story of that fire. If Islamic polygamy is a secret, it is only because our media and our leaders keep it a secret from us.
Posted by: special_guest at March 25, 2007 7:52 PM
Compare that with western ideology that says it is okay to have ONE wife before the law and also 4 or 5 or more mistresses behind her back (it’s passed off lightly as cheating).
You don't know much about western ideology, do you?
Posted by: treehugger at March 25, 2007 7:56 PM
Update on the Catmeat Sheik al Hilali:
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/03/26/moderates-in-hiding-catmeat-sheik-hilali-stays-put/
and King Quisling:
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/03/25/king-wanker-strikes-back-a-tribute-to-a-traitor-by-shiva/
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at March 25, 2007 8:58 PM
treehugger,
"... ONE wife before the law and also 4 or 5 or more mistresses behind her back ..."
That's what the amoral media and Hollywood wants people to believe.
Posted by: LoneRanger at March 25, 2007 8:58 PM
Polygamy is bad for women and the children of those unions. The children of the second and third marriages seem to suffer more, from what I have learned in talking to Africans who grew up with such arrangements. Pez is exactly right too...it is a costly undertaking for society as a whole, as most men cannot afford arrangements without dipping into the pockets of the government largess. However, I think that polygamy will be more tolerated and more legitimized in the years to come. Whatever one's opinion is of gay marriage, it must be acknowledged that it changes the composition of marriage as it has been known for centuries. Those who are in favor of legitimized polygamy will argue that it is a family structure that has been in existence since Biblical times and, like gay marriage, it is an alternative expression of family life. I think that once that argument is put out in the public square, along with the loud drumbeat for freedom of religion issues (read Muslim practices), polygamy will eventually be given legal approval. The issue that will probably upset Muslims, however, will be the fact that it will be polygamy, Western style. In Sweden last year, a woman had a marriage ceremony with two men. This type of arrangement will send the Muslims running for their Korans, but they will have to learn with that expression, just as the rest of us will have to learn to live with the man down the street and his three wives and 15 children...
Posted by: maryrose at March 25, 2007 9:52 PM
"In Islam, you tell your wife of any extracurricular activities you may be engaged in outside the house. This is a legal requirement."
Isn't that convenient? You can humiliate the woman, threaten her legal standing in the marriage, expose her to sexually transmitted diseases, siphon the financial assets you should be investing in her and your children, psychologically devastate her and the children creating mental illness from the humiliation and stress of the situation -- and it is "legal" under a religious law, not civil law. The religious law that permits this kind of behavior by a husband promotes all things harmful and evil that weaken a family instead of all the good things that should strengthen a wife and children. This is why Islamic society has not been responsible for the improvement of women or children's lives in dar-al-Islam, or made great contributions in medicine or science. Nations of walking emotionally wounded people are not capable of great things, only pitiful destructive behaviors. Islamic men only understand "love" in a base, sexual way; they do not comprehend "love" as sacrifical concern and action that protects and provides securely for all members of the family, including the wife. Their world is defined selfishly by their own undisciplined sexual desires.
"Treating all your wives with Justice is a must."
Whose "Justice" are we talking about? What kind of "justice" is it that robs a woman of the financial means to raise and educate her children because of multiple wives & children, a situation which humiliates, demeans and destroys her ability to focus lovingly on the children who she is raising? Any husband Islamic or Western who takes another wife or has a mistress does the same damage to his family, and damage of this kind is not "justice" it is selfish, self-centered narcissism. An Islamic man can selfishly ignore the fact that his religion sanctioned behavior is damaging because such cruelty and humiliation are sanctioned by his religious laws.
"Compare that with western ideology that says it is okay to have ONE wife before the law and also 4 or 5 or more mistresses behind her back (it’s passed off lightly as cheating)."
Corruption is corruption regardless of how you attempt to justify it -- corruption that emotionally destroys women and children, the flowers of your people. Western families in which such behavior occurs are just as dysfunctional as Islamic families, with just as small an opportunity for educational or professional success. It is the monogamous, faithful families in which success is statistically probable.
"Passed off lightly as cheating?" Only in the most unhealthy Western marriage is this the case. Healthy marriages with healthy families do not consider "cheating" acceptable behavior. That is why divorce is an option: Western spouses of either sex do not tolerate "cheating."
"Whether we like it or not, polygamy is the solution to a lot of society’s problems."
Polygamy does not resolve the issues it creates: emotionally crippled people who barely manage to function as mothers, students or employees. The culture of dar-al-Islam has a low threshold of expectation for it's children, and rightly so, they don't have the emotinal strength, commitment or love to do more than become sacrifical lambs for a pathetic ideology of failure and that begins with their family situation. Polygamy is the root problem for the societal problems of physical violence, domestic violence, cruelty, savagery, instability, anger, pedophilia, the bizarre sexual problems of Islamic men, and poverty in dar-al-Islam. The solution is to embrace the best of Western society: to love others and subordinate harmful behaviors to the benefit of the others you are responsible for -- and by harmful behaviors I mean marrying daughters off before they're 18, polygamy, domestic violence, and cruel, demeaning treatment of women.
If the United States of America legally upholds the relgiously sanctioned polygamy of Islam within its borders, we can anticipate an increase in the number of people living in poverty, committing violent crimes, and requiring increasing amounts of tax-payer funded government assistance. DOES ANYONE REALLY WANT THAT?????
Posted by: thelittlegreekwoman at March 25, 2007 11:11 PM
As bad as this is things will only get worse in the US. Politcians nowadays trip over one another to confer more and more rights on immigrants-legal and illegal- while eroding the rights of citizens and increasing taxes on those citizens to pay for it all. All this in the name of PC-after all, these people are poor and their peculiar customs are just as legitimate as those of anyone else. The Islamaniacs know all this so they just keep on coming. This insanity is almost enough to make an American move overseas, renounce their citizenship, then sneak back in illegally. Unfortunately, we'll be seeing more stories like these and worse thanks to the corrosive influence of PC and oil bought politicians. And with all this polygamy (and the resulting baby making) going on we can expect to see the numbers of Muslims in the US zooming upward as well in the future.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at March 25, 2007 11:29 PM
You can see the same thing on Jihad Watch Germany: It was on youtube but they pulled the plug on it. The German Government want's to suppress the truth, which allows free healthcare and child-support for the polygamists. Micheal Friedman used to be the CEO of the Jewish Council (Zentralrat der Juden in Deutschland) he is brilliant and has his own TV show.
Very damaging for the socialist creeps who allowed this. But the same rot continues all over the EU.
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at March 25, 2007 11:29 PM
http://fredalanmedforth.blogspot.com/
Here's the link, scroll down to Youtube/Fiedmann
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at March 25, 2007 11:31 PM
I wish someone could explain why we are allowing people like this into our country, especially after 9-11. I could say that our immigration policies are a joke but none of this is funny. This is a shocking news item.
Posted by: pigtails not veils at March 25, 2007 11:52 PM
Compare that with western ideology that says it is okay to have ONE wife before the law and also 4 or 5 or more mistresses behind her back (it’s passed off lightly as cheating). Whether we like it or not, polygamy is the solution to a lot of society’s problems. - Abdullah
Or, we can keep the menfolk at home in order to have absolute control over their freedom of movement and association with the opposite sex. And, we can cover them from head to toe to keep other women from checking out our men when they absolutely must accompany us out of the house. (Not to mention if we had 3 or 4 husbands, they could switch off mowing the lawn, cleaning the gutters, visiting the in-laws, etc. It's like "men's liberation!")
... Or, we can demand self-control from everyone, one of the hallmarks of a civilized society.
Posted by: MarisolJW at March 25, 2007 11:59 PM
Abdullah
If you are seeking to engage in Da'wa you are in the wrong place. There may be some rationale for polygamy during the Prophet's time given the proportion of men to women. However, polygamy is a disgusting practice. Many ulaema here in Indonesia have spoken out against it. It is uncessary in this day and age, and it is not something that is exalted in most Islamic texts. Many ulaema are speaking out against its practice and against "temporary" marriages.
Robert is even more correct when he states:
These people should be prosecuted and deported. Those who are already in polygamous arrangements should not be allowed in -- just as anyone who adheres to any aspect of Sharia that is at variance with the U.S. Constitution and American law should not be allowed in. Otherwise, why have such laws at all?
I am one hundred percent behind Robert in this statement.
Yours sincerely
Thomas
at March 26, 2007 12:26 AM
The whole world is a sexual playground for the dysfunctional islamic male. He is master of the universe, cock of the walk, tomcatting around, religiously sanctioned. But so pathetic.
BTW where are all these men with 4 and 5 mistresses, am I missing something?
Posted by: Silvester at March 26, 2007 3:38 AM
"Very damaging for the socialist creeps who allowed this. But the same rot continues all over the EU.
Posted by: sheik yer'mami"
Yes, and in most other countries where there are muslims including Australia.
I don't think it should be tolerated in Western democracies.
Posted by: Gramfan at March 26, 2007 4:12 AM
Hi PRCS
I'm here for a few months working with the UN in Jakarta. My wife is still in NZ, so I don't think I can stay for too much longer. I ve been here since January. Its an interesting place, Islamically actually. Generally, Ive found things fairly moderate.
Cheers
Thomas
at March 26, 2007 4:19 AM
Another reason why Islam has no place in the West
Posted by: Elric66 at March 26, 2007 6:16 AM
I am no fan of polygamy, but it is "interesting" that the media seems to embrace and be much more "open-minded" about polygamy in the instance than that of mormons....
Posted by: adobe at March 26, 2007 8:31 AM
and also 4 or 5 or more mistresses behind her back ...
Abdullah
Anyone who can keep 4 or 5 women secret behind his wife's back, not to mention secret from each other, is a genius and really needs to write a dummies guide book for the rest of us.
I, nabi ZK, have spoken.
nabi ZK
Posted by: zonie kafir at March 26, 2007 9:16 AM
US readers, please forward this on to your congressional representative, your senators and state representatives and demand that anyone living in a polygamous marraige be deported.
Posted by: eve_anne_gelical at March 26, 2007 1:03 PM
Polygamy, now there's more proof that this ideology is for the insane.
I have one wife, married once, never cheated on my wife and I'm proud to say that.
What I can't understand is how having many wives can be good? I can't handle the one I have on a good day, if I had a bunch of them I'd truly go insane!
Hey, wait a minute I might have stumbled on to something. That's it, these guys are insane and its because they have so much estrogen all around them all the time. Yalalalalalalalaalalal!
Posted by: The fanatic at March 26, 2007 1:10 PM
this is on-topic... check it out if you'd like to see what passes for discussion among literate and (?) middle class (?) people in the islamic world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9OoejF-U9w
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at March 26, 2007 1:36 PM
abdullah writes idiotically:
"Compare that with western ideology that says it is okay to have ONE wife before the law and also 4 or 5 or more mistresses behind her back (it’s passed off lightly as cheating)."
Abdullah, when you open your mouth, you show yourself to be a complete FOOL. You don't know what you're talking about!
=========
The Truth:
Islam is lust and violence! There is no religion in Islam. It is a business agreement designed to get the Muslim all the sex and money he craves!!!
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at March 26, 2007 2:41 PM
"Whether we like it or not, polygamy is the solution to a lot of society’s problems.
Posted by: Abdullah "
abulla, why muslim men have such a small and useless penis?
it must be terrible to beat your wives to force them to stay with you, regardless of your inability to satisfy them (or even one)
Posted by: FedUpagain at March 26, 2007 3:02 PM
"That's what the amoral media and Hollywood wants people to believe".
Absolutely.
But it's not how average decent people lead their lives in the west.
Posted by: treehugger at March 26, 2007 3:06 PM
I think some of you misunderstood what I wrote. Polygamy is not something one should abuse (ie by biting more than one can chew). The state should make sure that it isn't abused. The men should be regardful towards Allah and their wives. I wasnt saying polygamy is the ONLY way foward for EVERYONE. Lets Just not criminalize it because doing so will cripple society and increase STDS + high divorce rates which lead to crime etc
Let us not be hypocrites, Outlawing polygamy while craving for threesome with some "hot chicks"
Posted by: Abdullah at March 26, 2007 4:06 PM
Abdullah
I have no problem with three consenting adults making whatever arrangments they want. Freely consenting that is.
Suppose wife #1 is unhappy about your decision to take wife #2. Over here odds are almost 100% she says 'I'm outa here dude' this nice judge is going to help us split the loot real fair like'.
Possibly some guys get lucky and have understanding mates who go for this set up. I am quite sure many more are killed instantly on the spot.
So assuming that you are still alive you can skip down the road with your new wife #2.
Well that's the way it works over here in dar al kuffar and all and I can certainly agree with you that divorce, broken relationships and abandoned families are no small problem.
But Abdullah, please explain what happens under mohametanism when the wife #1 is unhappy with your decision to take wife #2. Surely, given human nature, jealousy and so forth, it must be that sometimes a wife #1 says 'no I don't accept this or this makes me very unhappy' or something like that. What happens then?
Also what happens when the young men of the society have no pretty brides cause all the rich old coots got 'em? Of course, in the good old days you could just go out for the jihad and capture a few kuffar chicks. Kuffar chicks rock it is true. But today it is not possible to actually capture them in the jihad like back then. So like what are these guys going to do?
Thank you for your time and consideration.
your emeny in cyberspace
nabi ZK
Posted by: zonie kafir at March 26, 2007 5:00 PM
"Lets Just not criminalize it because doing so will cripple society and increase STDS + high divorce rates which lead to crime etc
Let us not be hypocrites, Outlawing polygamy while craving for threesome with some "hot chicks""
STD is probably ridden in your burqad ladies since they are not allowed to get medication and see a doctor.
And hot chicks are better than the mustaches goats you have for wives.
Posted by: FedUpagain at March 26, 2007 5:03 PM
Abdullah:
In Islam, you tell your wife of any extracurricular activities you may be engaged in outside the house. This is a legal requirement. Treating all your wives with Justice is a must. Compare that with western ideology that says it is okay to have ONE wife before the law and also 4 or 5 or more mistresses behind her back (it’s passed off lightly as cheating). Whether we like it or not, polygamy is the solution to a lot of society’s problems.
Not at all Abdullah.
If it is so logical as you say, why is it that Islam does not support Polyandry?
And why is Islam beleive in Adam and Eve and not Adam, Eve, Sarah, Karen & Mary?
And your common Muslim view of the West where men are constantly cheating on wives does not match known sociological facts checked in the West. Adultery is actually rare and among couples I know, they are faithful.
Further I would point out that all Islamic examples of Polygamy in the Quran (as well as the Bible) showed stresses in relationships - sometimes between wives, sometimes between children of different wives - not one of them worked.
The prophet Isa also said that one Man was designed for one Women in the beginning - it was Gods pattern - why did Muhammad break that rule?
Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at March 26, 2007 6:37 PM
Abdullah:
I wasnt saying polygamy is the ONLY way foward for EVERYONE. Lets Just not criminalize it because doing so will cripple society and increase STDS + high divorce rates which lead to crime etc
Let us not be hypocrites, Outlawing polygamy while craving for threesome with some "hot chicks"
Polygamy should be outlawed and condemned.
It is destructive for society.
I expect men to excerise self-control.
For the record Abdullah, I am single man in my 40s. I have never slept with any woman or man.
Now if I can excerise self-control, why cant Muslim men? And as far as I am concerned, i am a better man than your Prophet, who never seemed to exercise any self-control at all.
at March 26, 2007 6:45 PM
Posted by T. HAIDON
I'm here for a few months working with the UN in Jakarta. My wife is still in NZ, so I don't think I can stay for too much longer. I ve been here since January. Its an interesting place, Islamically actually. Generally, Ive found things fairly moderate.
Jakarta is not representive of Indonsia.
You are most probaly in Indonesia teaching the primates how to spread Dawa,your speciality,and most likely staying in a fine hotel.
So do not come here and say Indonesia is fairly moderate.
The Majelis Tinggi Kerapatan Adat Alam Minangkabau, or the Minangkabau Traditional Culture High Council. In cooperation with the Komite Penegak Syariat Islam Sumatra Barat, the West Sumatra Committee for the Application of Islamic Sharia Law.
Held a mock trial of polygamist Abdullah Gymnastiar and adulterer Yahya Zaini on the 14th of December, with the title Indahnya Poligami dan Bejatnya Berselingkuh,(the Beauty of Polygamy and the Depravity of Adultery) at the Al-Wustha mosque in Padang.
It seems, from the title, that the judgement of the court was a foregone conclusion.
Both the two men were portrayed by impromptu actors,as were other well-known figures, including womens,activist Siti Masidah, Minister of Religion Maftuh Basyuni, and Minister for Womens’ Empowerment Meutia Hatta.
The actor portraying Aa Gym (1)explained that he had decided to take a second wife as a way of avoiding adultery, which is forbidden by religion. Yahya Zaini (2) too admitted that he wanted to practise polygamy but his career as a politician made this a difficult choice.
Finally, after hearing all the witness testimony and after some serious deliberation,
Aa Gym was not only acquitted, assuming any charges were actually laid against him, but he was awarded a prize, the Poligami Award, while naughty politician and unwilling porn film star Yahya Zaini was sentenced to death by stoning, in absentia.
(1)Abdullah “Aa Gym” Gymnastiar
Charismatic Muslim preacher Abdullah “Aa Gym” Gymnastiar and head of the Darud Tauhid Islamic boarding school has taken a second wife.
Abdullah Gymnastiar, commonly referred to as Aa Gym, a hugely popular preacher and holy man, has shocked the nation, particularly its women, by choosing to exercise his right to take more than one wife. Not satisfied with long-term spouse Teteh Nini Gym three months ago married a former model from Bandung, Alfarini Eridani, or Rini, 37 years old,who is divorced with three children and currently works at the sharia banking section of Bank Panin in Bandung.
(2)Yahya Zaini
A sex scandal involving a Golkar politician and a dangdut singer.
A video recording has been circulating which purports to show a member of parliament from the Golkar party,and a lady dangdut singer, with the initials M.E., in a hotel room, frolicking about in a fashion thought by many only permissible within the bounds of holy matrimony.
This video is very special because the politician Yahya Zaini happens to be the head of Golkar's religious affairs committee which is responsible for moral issues
Here is moderate Indonesia
http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2007/03/here-i-live-pt-16-indonesian-justice.html
at March 27, 2007 5:49 AM
Nothing Abdullah? Nothing at all? Do not be surprised when your are judged a troll. Do not complain that we are closed minded and don't want dialogue.
hear the words of nabi ZK and know thuth
nabi ZK
at March 27, 2007 3:06 PM
Shiva --
I was glad to have to look up "dangdut singer." Thank you.
Posted by: Hugh at March 28, 2007 10:39 PM
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