Islam is a hate crime

Posted by: Elric66 at April 11, 2007 7:30 AM

As you sew, so shall you reap.

Doesnt make it right.

Just makes it a fact of life.

Posted by: payingattention at April 11, 2007 7:39 AM

Robert

How do you expect Muslims to react? Of course some Muslims will be offended by this act. While, I wouldn't consider it a hate crime necessarily, do you honestly expect Muslims not to react negatively? The act was clearly intended to offend Muslims.

While this certainly isnt the same as a Muslim hate crime of scrawling anti-Semitic graffiti. I do not see anything patently unreasonable about the reaction here, that would render it deserving of criticism.

Not a hate crime, but certainly understandable and not unreasonable that some Muslims would be offended. Personally, it does not offend me. I'm more concerned about people within Islam harming Islam.

Cheers
Thomas

Posted by: Haidon at April 11, 2007 7:44 AM

I'm more concerned about people within Islam harming Islam.

Cheers
Thomas

Posted by: Haidon at April 11, 2007 07:44 AM

Who exactly would those people be?

Posted by: Elric66 at April 11, 2007 7:45 AM

Thomas:

My post is about the eagerness of the Tennessee police to classify this a hate crime, while the Chicago cops hesitate to classify the desecration of the synagogue as a hate crime.

Cordially
Robert

Posted by: jihadwatch at April 11, 2007 7:49 AM

Robert could speak for himself but I think his point is that this was immediately labelled a hate crime whereas the more violent message on a synagogue was not. Nobody doubts that Muslims would be offended by the act described; regular readers know that Mulsims are very easily offended. They do however find it very hard to accept that they can give offense.

Posted by: philiph35 at April 11, 2007 7:49 AM

And I totally agree with the hypocrisy with labeling anything that offends Muslims as a hate crime but the caution of hate grafitti on synagogues as a hate crime.

Posted by: Elric66 at April 11, 2007 7:52 AM

Bacon is offensive to Muslims because they are forbidden from eating pork

So, how is it "offensive" exactly? Where in all the foolishness of ahadith and kran are bacon products deemed offensive.

Because, you know, Jewish folks also are "forbidden" from eating swine, but I just can't remember the last incident of Jews becoming "outraged" by bacon.

Posted by: thomas ato at April 11, 2007 8:03 AM

Robert, I respectfully demur--this is an offensive act, but it is not, in any sense, a crime punishable by law. For a more impassioned rejection of the term "hate crime" as used in this case, I refer to Dymphna at GatesofVienna:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/04/bacon-new-hate-crime.html

Posted by: longtime lurker at April 11, 2007 8:16 AM

Maybe I should read more carefully next time.

Posted by: Haidon at April 11, 2007 8:16 AM

Are people not allowed to buy a book and do what they like with it then?
If people are offended it's their problem. Although the person responsible should be prosecuted for littering, that's all he should be prosecuted for.

Posted by: Ian at April 11, 2007 8:19 AM

Of course this is a hate crime! Someone obviously doesn't like pigs very much if they can insert a strip of perfectly good bacon into a Quran.

And I say this as a stricly kosher kitchen operator.

Posted by: Shy Guy at April 11, 2007 8:24 AM

Maybe I should read more carefully next time.

Posted by: Haidon at April 11, 2007 08:16 AM

So who are those in Islam that harm Islam?

Posted by: Elric66 at April 11, 2007 8:25 AM

Lurker:

I suspect you missed my sarcasm.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

Posted by: jihadwatch at April 11, 2007 8:26 AM

Does this mean the "artist" that did the "piss christ" exibit and the "mary in dung" exibit will be charged with a hate crime?

Posted by: Elric66 at April 11, 2007 8:27 AM

Before we know it bacon will be banned from stores or kept behind closed doors because it may offend those muslim free thinkers.

Posted by: angle at April 11, 2007 8:29 AM

Mr. Spencer is exactly correct, a hate crime label promptly stamped on an incident involving Muslims as victims, as opposed to the reluctance to label as a hate crime any incident that involves Muslims as the perpetrators. I think back at JW's many reports of physical violence, shootings, stabbings, road rage, where a Muslim is clearly the perpetrator, in some incidents, is even quoted repeating a religious declaration, and still, the law enforcement authorities will not stamp these horrific acts as 'hate crimes.' One of the latest incidents that I have in mind is the St. Valentine's massacre at the Salt Lake City mall by the 18 year old Bosnian Muslim who had recently becomes more 'active' at the nearby mosque. As for the Clarksville incident, it is regrettable. I do not support acts such as that; however, it is small blimp on the police radar screen and should be treated as such. The police, even in small towns, have much more serious issues to deal with on a daily basis. They should not be forced to waste hundreds of man hours looking for someone who defaced a book.

Posted by: maryrose at April 11, 2007 8:31 AM

""We were upset. Actually, some of us were outraged, but everyone was upset," said Heath, a representative of the center."

....so too, were the family members of the ice cream vendor, the rubber tree plantation worker, the barber, the journalist, the teacher, the student, the ambulance driver, and the garbage collector...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 11, 2007 8:34 AM

... "mary in dung" exibit will be charged with a hate crime?

Excellent point, which of course is completely oblivious to most "free speech" liberals....

Posted by: adobe at April 11, 2007 8:41 AM

About 12 years ago, my car and those of two others, were covered in paint and scrawled on with Stars of David and the words "Jews Burn" when parked over night in our synagogue car park. Was I offended? Certainly. Did we go whining to the press or call in MI5? Er... no. When you're Jewish you learn that this kind of sh*t is par for the course, so much so that yearning for the day when we will be free from this kind of stuff is a central theme of our religion.

Muslims have always wanted to be like the Jews, well they are now beginning to learn what it's like - but will they learn sufferance, forbearance and fortitude as we have had to as a defenceless minority in a sea of hostility...? Don't hold your breath; flying off the handle is more in line with Mohammed's example.

Posted by: Tziona at April 11, 2007 8:41 AM

... "mary in dung" exibit will be charged with a hate crime?

Excellent point, which of course is completely oblivious to most "free speech" liberals....

Posted by: adobe at April 11, 2007 08:41 AM

Its more like free speech for some. Kinda like the Imus situation. He is a bad guy but Rosie can spout vile stuff everyday. Not that I am a fan of Imus. I just disagree with double standards. Like the Christians are fair game but we cant offend Muslims.

Posted by: Elric66 at April 11, 2007 8:44 AM

Well, it was a little thick...

like the mayo on my BLT...

But I did miss it.

Posted by: longtime lurker at April 11, 2007 8:45 AM

Oh, and...

The front of the Quran, Islam's holy book, read "Mohammad pedophile." An expletive was written inside, smeared under two strips of bacon, according to a Clarksville police report. The report labeled the incident a hate crime.

Expression of an opion considered hateful under sharia, sure. But a crime, not necessarily, the property that was defaced (a copy of the koran) belonged to the perp didn't it? So if the book and the bacon belonged to the perp, and if there was no trespass into the mosque's property or defacing of mosque property, where exactly is the crime?

Posted by: Tziona at April 11, 2007 8:52 AM

I wonder how far apart Clarksville and Collierville are?

BTW they didn't label the cabbie versus college student backing up incident a hate crime did they?
That was in Tenn. also.

If the surveillance cameras had been in place earlier, I wonder who they would have caught on tape?
I sometimes think these things are self-inflicted.
For one thing, how many local yokels here in the South even know about the bacon deal? Or can spell pedophile?

Posted by: auntbea at April 11, 2007 8:52 AM

What is the "crime" part of this? Was the book or bacon stolen? Can one not buy a book now and do with it as he pleases, or is it now illegal to add bacon and marginalia? Is the mosque not a public place? At most, the person who left the book was littering, but that opens to door to saying that political or advertising pamphlets cannot be left in public places, either.
It was a rude act and no doubt an unproductive way to criticize Islam, but I am quite serious when I ask what crime was committed.

Posted by: AnneCrockett at April 11, 2007 8:52 AM

Thats the other good point. How can one be charged with defacing a book that you own?

Posted by: Elric66 at April 11, 2007 8:57 AM

Is CAIR P***ed off?

http://www.cair.com/default.asp?Page=articleView&id=2676&theType=NR

Yep!

Posted by: The Resistance at April 11, 2007 9:03 AM

"The front of the Quran, Islam's holy book, read "Mohammad pedophile." An expletive was written inside, smeared under two strips of bacon".

- from article

Maybe this as done out of love, also.
Perhaps the person responsible wanted to share his fondness for bacon with Muslims and also express his approval that Mohammed was a pedophile.
Unfortunately, we don't know the context or content of the "expletive".
Perhaps it was used in the context of emphasis of approval, eg. "bloody good job, Whoa, a religion for pedophiles, where can I sign up :)".

And why would Muslims express outrage that Mohammed is described as a pedophile when their very own respected texts describe him so?

Tabari VII:7 "The Prophet married Aisha in Mecca three years before the Hijrah, after the death of Khadija. At the time she was six." Ishaq:281 "When the Apostle came to Medina he was fifty-three."

Tabari IX:131 "My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was then brought in while the Messenger was sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. Then the men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old."

Why on earth would Muslims become outraged over bacon in a Qur'an and not be outraged at the never ending list of atrocities committed in the name of Allah all over the world, every day?

Posted by: Mike_W at April 11, 2007 9:09 AM

Would it surprise anyone to find out that this 'offensive' act had been committed by Muslims themselves?

Just another 'hate crime' to add the ever growing list!

Posted by: Sencit at April 11, 2007 9:10 AM

Was it the Jimmy Dean brand?
I know the Purnell brand is made with Qu'ran-free ingredients. and it's ..umm..umm..good.

Posted by: TheOmegaMan at April 11, 2007 9:11 AM

What if it was turkey bacon? Would that have been ok?

Posted by: Elric66 at April 11, 2007 9:13 AM

Seems it may turn out to be a healthy 'shock art' display whether or not people realize it as such. I read part of the thread on the Tennessee page and it seems a number of people are wondering just why someone would right pedophile on the Quran. We all know the majority of people in the west have a lot to learn about the religion of peace.

Posted by: Abrog8 at April 11, 2007 9:15 AM

Certainly an offensive act, but exactly what crime is involved? I'd think a person has just as much right to vandalize a Quran (assuming it's his or her property) as to put on exhibit a crucifix in urine, which as far as I recall was never prosecuted as a hate crime against Christians.

Littering, maybe?

Posted by: Karl Pov at April 11, 2007 9:19 AM

another thought..could the bacon have simply been a page marker. i sometimes insert a piece of bacon in my qu'ran so i remember where i left off reading.

Posted by: TheOmegaMan at April 11, 2007 9:20 AM

Did they have to hire an infidel to remove said book with bacon?...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 11, 2007 9:24 AM

auntbea

You are correct about the cabbie vs. student not being called a hate crime. As a matter of fact the Tennessean wouldn't report that he was a muslim. That came out later from the 'shocked' people that knew him.

Posted by: Had.Enough at April 11, 2007 9:30 AM

elric 66

"Does this mean the "artist" that did the "piss christ" exibit and the "mary in dung" exibit will be charged with a hate crime?"

bloody good point!!! why has no one prosecuted the artist? but you are correct, even the name is offensive to christians yet no "hate crime".

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at April 11, 2007 9:35 AM

WTF.. moslems in **TENNESSEE** now? Not even the South is safe from this vermin? I am a bit surprised the mayor is going to meet with the moskers on behalf of bacon being wasted on a "book" that isn't worth wiping my shoes on.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 9:40 AM

bloody good point!!! why has no one prosecuted the artist? but you are correct, even the name is offensive to christians yet no "hate crime".

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at April 11, 2007 09:35 AM

Welcome to the wonderful world of double standards.

Posted by: Elric66 at April 11, 2007 9:43 AM

You're damn right it's a hate crime! Wasting perfectly wholesome bacon strips on filthy trash. There should be a law against it.

Posted by: Kim Hartveld at April 11, 2007 9:51 AM

All I could do was laugh!

I love it. They try to kill us - nothing oh and let us not say that it was a muslim who did the deed, but if someone leaves pig meat around them - OH MY GAWD!! The SKY IS FALLING! Put the person in jail for life and if it were up to them - behead them after a bit of torture.

Posted by: R_not at April 11, 2007 9:55 AM

FABULOUS point Elric66 re: 'piss Christ' and 'Mary in dung' ...

We see 'artists' degrading and offending Christians all the time w/ these sort of 'art exhibits' and Christians never riot in the streets, burn cars and flags, and blow people up because of it.

Why don't or haven't EVER seen an 'artist' degrading and offending muslims this same way?

Personally, I think 'bacon koran' should be an 'art exhibit' featured right alongside 'piss Christ' and 'Mary in dung' and 'chocolate Jesus'.

I would bet that the 'bacon koran' exhibit would be pulled before the showing, because, of course, the threats they would receive. However, I think this would make an amazing statement, and it MUST be done right alongside something offensive to Christians.

Why has no forward-thinking 'artist' done this yet ?

Posted by: JenBee at April 11, 2007 9:58 AM

Muslims are forbidden from eating pork unless they are hungery,
Can you vandalise your own shit? I dont think so.

Posted by: KAOSKTRL at April 11, 2007 9:58 AM

smann@clarksvillepd.org

clarksville PD

Posted by: KAOSKTRL at April 11, 2007 9:59 AM

Bibles in Mecca?

Posted by: TINBH at April 11, 2007 10:00 AM

I recommend emailing this link to the PD

Posted by: KAOSKTRL at April 11, 2007 10:00 AM

FABULOUS point Elric66 re: 'piss Christ' and 'Mary in dung' ...

We see 'artists' degrading and offending Christians all the time w/ these sort of 'art exhibits' and Christians never riot in the streets, burn cars and flags, and blow people up because of it.

Posted by: JenBee at April 11, 2007 09:58 AM

Thanks. Until these so called artists start offending Muslims, its just Christian bashing.

Posted by: Elric66 at April 11, 2007 10:03 AM

This is very important: Was it an Arabic Quran? If it was not, then a Quran has not been defaced. A Quran, Koran, or whatever in any language other than Arabic is an interpretation. There is another word Mohammedans use for a translation, but I can't remember. The very act of a non-believer touching a real Koran is defacement, at least according to Mohalledans. Of course, Mohs will deny this in order to stir the FBI into action. If I blow my nose on page sixty-seven of my English Koran, I have not defaced a Koran.

I would never touch a real Koran anyway: "Don't touch it; it's evil."

Posted by: Pelayo at April 11, 2007 10:10 AM

What, no lettuce and tomato?

I can't stomach the plagiarized, ersatz Koran in the raw, but sandwiched within a healthy BLT, it might be semi-palatable.

However, unless things like this are done in an "art" exhibit context (where it would open debate), such acts is mere vandalism and intimidation.

As little as I like the creed of Islam, you won't convince those under its brainwashed-from-birth thrall to become more reasonable by being merely as unreasonably provocative, as they tend to be (MoToons hysteria, et al), in reply.

You need to argue from a higher position of rationality or the "argument" (-is Islam a "religion" worthy of respect?-) devolves into a simple "nyah-nyah" contest of competing crassnesses.

And these kinds of "desecrations" (especially done anonymously, which equates to "cowardly" in the popular mind) tend to give the Muslim "victims" sympathy, which is the last thing you want to afford an expansionistic, imperialistic, intolerant "creed".

Which is why one might suspect they are doing this "porking of the Qur'an" themselves.

As a method of gaining support from the Koranically-uninformed, fatally-gulllible infidel community at large.

Submit the "BLT Koran" to the National Endowment for the Arts for a grant.

Don't let the jihadists gain any advantage by undeserved "pity".

Confront them with our freedoms.

And "out" the NEA's hypocrisy simultaneously.

Yummy.

Posted by: profitsbeard at April 11, 2007 10:15 AM

Only Muslims can be offended or humiliated. Only Muslims bleed. Only Muslims suffer, and are persecuted. Only Muslims have emotions and feelings. Seems that's the message cause in the West anything that upsets a Muslim is a Crime , yet Muslims can discriminate in the service industry ,disrupt flights on airlines and basically be venomous open anti semites and nobody say's boo about that.they get a free reign. Everyone is afraid of offending the poor Muslims , that could cost you your life. cause after all Muslims are not responsible for their own lot at all . It is always the infidel and zionist to blame .

Posted by: MoBlows at April 11, 2007 10:16 AM

This is a link to an opinion about translated Korans -

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=3996&ln=eng&txt=translation

The other word Mohammedans use is transliteration.

Posted by: Pelayo at April 11, 2007 10:24 AM

Racist skin-head, Jesus worshipping zionists must have been behind this criminal act.

I wish they did this infront of me. 1000 years Jail sentence will seem like a walk in the park.

Posted by: Abdullah at April 11, 2007 10:28 AM

This is OT, but has some relevance to the subject of Islam as a special, protected religion. I heard on the radio that the talk show host, Bill Maher, is coming out with a film blasting away at organized religion. I know little of him, having seen his talk show only twice, but I can imagine what religions he will be degrading..Judaism and Christianity. Will his 'humor' extend to Islam? I bet not...after all, even such special people such as Mr. Maher have surely heard of the fate of Theo Van Gogh.

Posted by: maryrose at April 11, 2007 10:31 AM

THINK LIKE A MUSLIM

1) Who benefits from this Quran-Bacon stunt?

answer: The Muslims.

2) Who perpetrated this Quran-Bacon stunt?

The Muslims, because they alone benefit.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl at April 11, 2007 10:32 AM

Errrr..... Abdullah, what race is Muslim?

Posted by: Elric66 at April 11, 2007 10:33 AM

Jesus Worshipping Zionist That would make a very good bumper sticker or a TypeKey nickname.

Abdullah, thanks for the compliment.

Posted by: Pelayo at April 11, 2007 10:34 AM

More heartburn for the outraged Muslim poster....yes, I have met Somalian Christians...they not only exist, their numbers are growing...some are Christian by birth, and some are Somalian Muslims who have left the religion of peace for.....a peaceful religion...burp, burp...and take some more anti-acid tablets...

Posted by: maryrose at April 11, 2007 10:35 AM

Abdullah,

What would you have done in response had you seen this being done? Would you now be in jail because of your response?

I think I'll start a company to print Koranic verses on toilet paper, would anyone like to pony up some venture capital?

Posted by: schwaben at April 11, 2007 10:45 AM

It is not a crime to ridicule or scorn a religion or its symbols. It is a crime to cause someone distress that you will physically hurt them merely because they are a member of a religious group. Freedom of speech however, allows Nazis to march in Jewish neighborhoods. Surely, you have the right to march against Islam and to picket in front of mosques against the religion. You have the right to oppose the religion and the right to criticize its adherents. The law however, will prevent you from committing any crime while you are marching and protesting Islam such as vandalism or assault.
In order to make out a case for a hate crime, as alleged here, first a crime needs to be committed. The vandalism of leaving the Koran on the property may constitute a crime. But the hate crime part may not be here because the greater punishment for "hate" or the greater punishment for the crime is traditionally associated with the commission of any crime where the recipient or victim of the crime is a member of a group that has historically been subjected to discrimination. Moslems never had to sit on the back of buses in the South. They never had their mosques fire bombed. If a person claims the Moslem has traditionally been the victim of a special animosity or discrimination, then the person is ignorant of history. Jews in contrast have a legitimate claim to victim hood.
The fact that ethnically some Moslems can pass for people who could have been discriminated against on the basis of race does disservice to those who were truly discriminated against on that basis. Moreover, it’s a stretch to take petty misdemeanors, vandalism of a Koran (its not vandalism if it is your Koran and you trash it on your property with your bacon) so long as the act is not reasonably perceived by a person who sees it as intimidation of the person itself. In that circumstance, such act could constitute a hate crime.
The term "hate crime" is a misnomer, as it is no crime whatsoever to hate. Anyone is free to hate "Islam," just as it is no crime to hate Judaism or Christianity. If however, some vandal includes bacon in the Koran and gives someone the reasonable expectation that the person who uses a Koran will be harmed; such act could give rise to a hate crime.
But, to destroy Koran or showing your contempt, scorn or disapproval of Islam is a fundamental right. Any other argument is a subterfuge to try to establish sharia as the law of the United States wherein any criticism of Islam is a crime. (I hope to see thousands of criticisms of Islam on youtube. Just be sure not to threaten Moslems. Bomb (no violence intended) the Moslem world with criticism, cartoons and spoofs).

Islam is a stupid ignorant religion. The reason why its adherents try to ban criticism, is that if criticism was more widespread in the world and more importantly where it is in majority, criticism might force mindless zombies living in the de facto Caliphate to reconsider whether their miserable conditions as believers is attributable to allah, god of evil.
Moslems have never been victims like they describe. They have more often been the aggressor rather than the victim. Tell me the part about Moslems being the victims when there are thousands of thousands of innumerable atrocities committed mostly by Moslems the world over. To hate Moslems who commit atrocities is understandable.

Posted by: David England at April 11, 2007 10:57 AM

OK, I get the hate part.

But what is the crime part? Littering?

Posted by: Conservatarian at April 11, 2007 11:02 AM

Okay, this was not the best thing to do. But is it a hate crime? Hell no! This is just insane. Everything people do to resist these supremist bastards (forgive the bad language) will play into their hands. CAIR is having a field day now.

Posted by: wrathofasma at April 11, 2007 11:08 AM

As noted above (re: the "piss christ" and "mary in dung" art exhibits), we should consider this as an act of post-modern agit-prop Art -- the only difference being that Artists who through their Art comment about Islam must remain anonymous out of the real fear of being murdered, whereas the Artists who through their Art comment about Christianity can not only publicize their real names, they can become quite famous, without the slightest fear that Christians -- infinitely more mature and decent than Muslims -- would do them harm.

Hopefully in the time ahead we will see more and more of this kind of protest Art, and perhaps a little Street Theater would be helpful too.

Posted by: remote_control at April 11, 2007 11:12 AM

Talk to the Jews about hate crimes. This was no holocaust it was a Qu'ran and bacon sandwich!

We are Soooo backward.

Posted by: MoBlows at April 11, 2007 11:15 AM

"This was no holocaust it was a Qu'ran and bacon sandwich!

We are Soooo backward.

Posted by: MoBlows"

...it could also have been a bacon and baloney sandwich....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 11, 2007 11:22 AM

In concert with those expressing doubt about the integrity of this 'hate crime' - here are just a few examples as to why this doubt surfaces:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2006/08/kafirphobia_americans_as_viole.html

Since the arrest of Shteiwi's associate, CAIR has refused further comment and has offered no apology for its shameless kafir—phobic behavior to the community they falsely impugned.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MichelleMalkin/2003/05/30/more_muslim_hate_crime_myths

Mazhar Tabesh, Nezar "Mike" Maad, and Aqil Yassom Al-Timimi all have something in common. They were held up by Muslim activists as innocent victims of the "post-September 11 backlash." They milked the compassion of their communities. They won sympathy from the media and politicians.

And now it appears they were all hate crime hucksters who cried "racism" to cash in on the terrorist attacks.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4662915

Fudging the Numbers on Hate Crimes

NPR audio reports how some activist groups often use a less-than-scientific approach to obtaining statistics that support their claims about hate crimes.

CAIR is notorious for crying wolf and has ZERO credibility (pun intended).

Posted by: justamomof4 at April 11, 2007 11:28 AM

Yes I think I would have been looking at a long Jail sentence. How many years do you go down for beheading someone with a crude metal or ripping head off with a chain saw??? Someone care to let me know....

Posted by: Abdullah at April 11, 2007 11:34 AM

Two things will gurantee an infidel's death,

1) desecrating Islam and 2) Standing on a Muslim sister's honour.

Posted by: Abdullah at April 11, 2007 11:36 AM

"How many years do you go down for beheading someone with a crude metal or ripping head off with a chain saw??? Someone care to let me know...."

...If you were in front of a sha'ria court, you would be praised as a true Muslims,faithful to Islam....You would be raised to hero status and treated with respect and admiration...

...they would give you a pat on the back and tell you ..."attaboy!"....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 11, 2007 11:38 AM

Only a mad infidel will mess with these two things whilst near Muslims, who love death more than he loves life.

Posted by: Abdullah at April 11, 2007 11:39 AM

LOL!! exsgtbrown

What do 2 pieces of bread, mayo and a Quran make-A baloney sandwich!!

Posted by: pvb at April 11, 2007 11:53 AM

Abdullah Dude,

Your religion is DEATH. All those that follow it are spiritually DEAD, dude.

On a more pleasant note, thanks for the idea for the bumber sticker: Jesus Worshipping Zionist. I'm having one made as I write this. So if you see me driving around and you get a hankering to behead me, make sure the rifle rack of my pickup is empty of rifles, umbrellas, or fishing poles. I can put your eye out with an umbrella or a fishing pole along with place a bullet between your eyes.

On another note, if mosques put cameras to monitor placements of pork ridden korans, someone will be smart enough to deposit one dressed in a Burqua. That WOULD give me a warm and fuzzy feeling!

Posted by: never_submit at April 11, 2007 12:01 PM

Not to forget the recent 'lifesized naked chocolate Jesus complete with genitals' exhibit conveniently timed for Holy Week..

That wasn't a hate crime, it was the artist who wanted to experience 'Jesus in a delicious way'.

The double standards being applied is appalling.

Posted by: Sanwin at April 11, 2007 12:03 PM

A couple months ago, a cabbie was insulted in Nashville because his passengers challenged his anti-semitic views. As a result, he ran the students over.

Does anyone know if the cabbie was charged with a hate crime?

Posted by: sh217 at April 11, 2007 12:03 PM

Hugh, again you were correct. This particular troll is quite an educational specimen.

Posted by: justamomof4 at April 11, 2007 12:05 PM

If it's my Koran, I can stuff it full of bacon, sprinkle it with bacon bits, and write any notes I want, including factual ones like Mohammeds pedophilia.

Period.

This is bogus.

Posted by: treehugger at April 11, 2007 12:25 PM

"Heath said police told him they would contact the FBI and send out more patrols to monitor the center. Surveillance cameras have since been installed."

One can only pray that the surveillance cameras are placed INSIDE that "peaceful" compound of ignorance and death.

Posted by: AsIf at April 11, 2007 12:33 PM

Abdullah, forgive me - sometimes I'd like to wrap you in bacon and impale you on a minaret but I'd miss you. You are so FUNNY. I LOVE the way you talk its like some bad actor in a thirties serial playing an Aay-rab Sheek. You remind me of that insane Arab who whirls his sword, rages at Indiana Jones who looks at him pityingly takes out his gun and shoots him dead.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at April 11, 2007 12:39 PM

Every infidel citizen in that town should buy a koran, wrap it in bacon, march on the police station and dare the police to arrest them all for a hate crime.

Time to face down the Islamonazis and their lackeys.

Posted by: treehugger at April 11, 2007 12:39 PM

Two things will gurantee an infidel's death,

1) desecrating Islam and 2) Standing on a Muslim sister's honour.

Posted by: Abdullah

Abby you are such a freak. You moslems are the rapists [see available statistics] and you want to leacture US on women;s honor?

you are the one who wanted to initiate a friendly chat with Nazeem about raping her..

Sounds like Hitlery: "so.. let's talk.. let's chat...."

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 12:40 PM

Yes I think I would have been looking at a long Jail sentence. How many years do you go down for beheading someone with a crude metal or ripping head off with a chain saw??? Someone care to let me know....

Posted by: Abdullah

You're wasting your islamic creativity on nonsense. Why don't you work as a scriptwriter for Hollywood.. they alsways need good horror scenarios.

Too bad the Sopranos are in their last season. I am sure you could have given them new and innovative ways to "wack" someone.

islam - the Cult of Wack!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 12:43 PM

This is not the first time an incident of this nature has happened. Why only last Thursday down my local grocery store I came across a shelf stacked with the Qur'an. A closer inspection revealed they contained 'Surprisingly Sizzling Bacon Style Rashers'... No wait..that was a Quorn.

Posted by: western infidel at April 11, 2007 12:44 PM

And noone mentioned "chocolate Jesus" which was planned to be displayed in a hotel lobby in New York.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,262602,00.html

How much you wanna bet if we displayed a chocolate mahomet there'd be bomb threats, murder and other mayhem by masses of uneployed.. I dare say unemployable.. moslems.

Hey, Abby, where do you work? Who pays for your college tuition? Is it the "kafir" taxpayers of England, you parasite?

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 12:48 PM

"Does this mean the "artist" that did the "piss christ" exibit and the "mary in dung" exibit will be charged with a hate crime?"

Those are two different artists.

"piss christ" was Jose Serrano. The dung painting was Chris Ofili. These artists have realized the publicity value of messing about with religious symbols.

Madonne set the stage for that one - remember her burning crosses on the neach and her slutty cavorting with a crucifix.

You screw with these things you get rich rewards - said the devil.

They daren't do it with islam of course. Satan WILL get you.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 12:53 PM

If I own a quran and I stick bacon in it that I own, and I write something derogatory in the quran........ it is not a crime.

It would be my quran, bacon, and I would be allowed to deface a book that I owned. Out of hate it may have been left in a obvious and visible place, but still it is not a crime.

There was not defacing of property and no damage to anything other then the owner of the quran and bacon, and I am going to assume it was the critic of islams own book. Unless the mosque did it theirselves.

Are the police to stupid that they don't know what a crime is? And the police are going to contact the FBI?

Posted by: alaskan1000 at April 11, 2007 12:55 PM

I am personally *offended* - Germans are KNOWN as pork eaters.. this is a serious racial slur. They have DEFILED my favorite food by inserting it into a manual of pure FILTH!!!!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 12:56 PM

I read part of the thread on the Tennessee page and it seems a number of people are wondering just why someone would right pedophile on the Quran. We all know the majority of people in the west have a lot to learn about the religion of peace.

Posted by: Abrog8

Send 'em over here.. we'll be glad to educate them.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 12:57 PM

"Two things will gurantee an infidel's death,

1) desecrating Islam and 2) Standing on a Muslim sister's honour".

2b) Just being an infidel.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at April 11, 2007 12:58 PM

""Two things will gurantee an infidel's death,

1) desecrating Islam and 2) Standing on a Muslim sister's honour".

2b) Just being an infidel.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS "

....2c) explaining the truth to a Muslim.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 11, 2007 1:01 PM

Abdullah the moderate Muslim said

Two things will gurantee an infidel's death, 1) desecrating Islam and 2) Standing on a Muslim sister's honour.

Are you saying that Muslims are "guaranteed" to kill a non-Muslim for touching a Qur'an with a piece of bacon, an act that would break no law (of man)? Are you saying that Muslims do not follow the law of man when they are living in the West, and elevate loyalty to the law of Allah over the law of man? Are you saying that you would act as the judge, jury, and executioner if this incident had taken place in front of you?

What consitutes "desecrating" Islam? Calling Mohammad a pedophile? Putting Bibles in the bookstore on a higher shelf than the Qur'an? What constitutes "standing on" a Muslima's honor? Asking her (as an infidel man) if she knows if the #26 bus stops here? Tapping her on the shoulder to say "Miss, you dropped this."?

Does each Muslim get to decide their definition of "desecrating" Islam, or "standing on" a Muslima's honor, before imposing their death sentence?

These are the sorts of questions we infidels should be asking of Muslims, not the idiotic "Why is Islam considered the religion of peace?" or "Do Muslims believe in Jesus too?" pablum. And their answers should guide our policy toward Islam.

Posted by: special_guest at April 11, 2007 1:02 PM

Okay, this was not the best thing to do. But is it a hate crime? Hell no! This is just insane. Everything people do to resist these supremist bastards (forgive the bad language) will play into their hands. CAIR is having a field day now.

Posted by: wrathofasma

Same thing that will happen if the Wacky guy [Jimmy Wales] and his ilk get their internet "code of conduct" down our throats.

Remember.. political correctness didn't happen in a day either.

I hope that my logic will be instrumental in helping you see more clearly on this subject.

Internet code of conduct will ONLY serve to aid the islamists.. similar to the UN attempt to make it ilegal to criticize islam.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 1:03 PM

Does anyone have legal insight to know if the same object, placed on a public sidewalk would also be classified as a hate crime? Or, must it be placed on private property to qualify?

Some of the comments piqued my curiosity, and I am wondering if doing something like this on public property falls into free speech (much as flag burning)?

PS- loved the turkey bacon observation, Elric66!

Posted by: dm60462 at April 11, 2007 1:05 PM

I wish they did this infront of me. 1000 years Jail sentence will seem like a walk in the park.

Posted by: Abdullah

Hey, Abby.. care to come to New York? I'd like to do it in front of you this FOURTH of JULY. Meet me at the southeast corner of the World Trade Center.. say around 3 PM?

Let's call it performance art.
Or action art.

I am giving you plenty of time to make your travel arrangements, Abby.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 1:07 PM

"And their answers should guide our policy toward Islam.

Posted by: special_guest at April 11, 2007 01:02 PM "

...they do make up their own rules as they go merrily along....their answer to everything is "Die Infidel".........

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 11, 2007 1:11 PM

Send 'em over here.. we'll be glad to educate them.

Posted by: Allahfanculo

Why do that? We can hash it all out when you visit the TC on the 4th of July!

Or do you have an address where we can show up and get "eductated"?

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 1:13 PM

Send 'em over here.. we'll be glad to educate them.

Posted by: Allahfanculo

Why do that? We can hash it all out when you visit the TC on the 4th of July!

Or do you have an address where we can show up and get "eductated"?

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 1:13 PM

Only a mad infidel will mess with these two things whilst near Muslims, who love death more than he loves life.

Posted by: Abdullah

Funney, Abby.. so funny. We always think YOU are the moHAM-MAD-dans!

See how that works, Abby: Mo was Ham-MAD!!!!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 1:18 PM

"Does anyone have legal insight to know if the same object, placed on a public sidewalk would also be classified as a hate crime? Or, must it be placed on private property to qualify?"

Surely, littering at most. I guess this may be a crime (misdemeanour?) in some states but I doubt hate littering will really run. Placing it on private property probably will not be littering, might be construed as a threat but I'm not sure that kind of long-distance threat is criminal.

I like the point about free speech. Roll on the Mahomet made out of elephant dung.

Posted by: philiph35 at April 11, 2007 1:20 PM

The phrase written in the Koran doesn't sound like something a native English speaker would write, it's missing a verb. A native speaker or someone more familiar with English would write "mohammed is a pedophile" or somesuch that is grammatically correct and conveys its message clearer.

Posted by: JonathanD at April 11, 2007 1:29 PM

1) desecrating Islam and 2) Standing on a Muslim sister's honour....

Quoth "the mad arab" (ab)dullard alhazred

dullard dullard

What's all this silly talk? All your base are belong to us. Get over it.

nabi ZK

Posted by: zonie kafir at April 11, 2007 1:29 PM

Poor Abdeluded; so, so backwards. There's nothing a good beheading can't solve, is there?

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at April 11, 2007 1:31 PM

"muslims in Tennesse?"

Yes, there are many. 5,000-6,000 Kurds, Iraqis, numerous Somalis and Sudanese and Bangledeshies and Pakitanisand and assorted others. Muslims live all over the state in towns such as Murfreesboro, Columbia, Knoxville, Cookeville, etc.

AlQaeda is here, the muslim brotherhood and MAS are here. Hezbollah is here and who knows what else. You must understand. They are in all states, small and large.

Posted by: the poetess at April 11, 2007 1:33 PM

Since the Mos are so upset about a Koran'N'BAcon samwich.. here is something I am upset about:

This slideshow shows the jihadists in AFG in action.

http://www.repubblica.it/2006/05/gallerie/esteri/esecuzione-taliban/1.html

WHAT do these guys do for work? Who feeds them? If I had to guess they're leeching off the West.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 1:35 PM

Treehugger, you are correct. If many many descrated korans showed up, the courts would be jammed and the mohammedans would be getting a clearer picture of what happens of what we think about their "feelings."

Posted by: the poetess at April 11, 2007 1:39 PM

special_guest wrote:

What consitutes "desecrating" Islam? Calling Mohammad a pedophile? Putting Bibles in the bookstore on a higher shelf than the Qur'an? What constitutes "standing on" a Muslima's honor? Asking her (as an infidel man) if she knows if the #26 bus stops here? Tapping her on the shoulder to say "Miss, you dropped this."?

Does each Muslim get to decide their definition of "desecrating" Islam, or "standing on" a Muslima's honor, before imposing their death sentence?

Excellent analysis. It becomes clearer each day that the Islamist has a ready alternative to justify their actions in nearly every scenario.

This vagueness, occasionally delving into ambiguity, is seen explicitly in the Qur'an itself. The dual meaning of jihad, one meaning, the "inner spritual struggle" offered to the infidels and the other meaning, "waging war against the non-believers", spoken in more intimate circles.

This is a major dilemna that the West faces in it's short-sighted desire to align with the "moderate" Muslim, those not hell-bent on destroying all non-Islamic societies and cultures. The Islamist will say that the Qur'an forbids Islamists from waging jihad warfare unless Islam is attacked. A concrete definition of "attacked" is paramount to comprehend where we stand. It is also nearly impossible to obtain that definition, which leaves the open-ended justification to wage jihad firmly in place for the next person that desires so.

Posted by: awake at April 11, 2007 1:40 PM

AlQaeda is here, the muslim brotherhood and MAS are here. Hezbollah is here and who knows what else. You must understand. They are in all states, small and large.

Posted by: the poetess

And in light of all this they are [mis]using the FBI to investigate a samwich?!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 1:41 PM

Allahfanculo, I would invite Abdullah to a corner in downtown Nashville, but after he meets with you he may not be able to make the trip.

Posted by: Pelayo at April 11, 2007 1:41 PM

The most notable thing about this particular "hate crime" is that it isn't a crime.

Putting bacon on a book is not a crime.

Although I suppose you could issue a summons for littering.

If there were some history of violence against mohammedans in America, I suppose you could consider it a threat, and thus establish an argument for harassment. But no such history exists.

If it had happened many times at the same spot, I suppose you could try to establish a very weak argument for harassment. But it only happened once.

Nope. No crime here.

It was just somebody's way of saying "you stink".

A "hate crime" with no crime, just hate.

So here we have a true and pure attempt to criminalize hate itself, to criminalize thought.

A mohammedan idea if ever I've heard of one.

Posted by: joeblough at April 11, 2007 1:44 PM

poetcomic1:
Abdullah, forgive me - sometimes I'd like to wrap you in bacon and impale you on a minaret but I'd miss you. You are so FUNNY. I LOVE the way you talk its like some bad actor in a thirties serial playing an Aay-rab Sheek.

I dont find it funny poetcomic1.
It might seem amusing because here in JW, we are all insulated by the Intenet. Meanwhile in various Western and non-Western countries, non-Muslims are losing their lives simply because some Muslim is "offended" because the Prophet's left toe nail clipping has been insulted.

And this gratuitous violence, rape etc goes on on a continuous stream, day by day.

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at April 11, 2007 1:51 PM

I think the "It's my property so I can do what I want with it" argument is not the whole story. If the Klansmen brought their own wooden cross, scribbled with "Die N*****", and they want to burn it, is that okay?

Of course, the difference is that having 20-30 robed and armed Klansmen standing on your front lawn, when there are plenty of examples of Klansmen actually killing blacks, is very intimidating and threatening.

Leaving a bacon bookmark in a Qur'an and running away in the middle of the night, when there are (almost?) no cases of non-Muslims killing Muslims for being Muslim, is no more threatening or intimidating than egging a house or toilet-papering a tree. Those Muslims who found it are not fearful, they are enraged, enraged that a lowly infidel (who is in the same class as feces, according to their Qur'an) insulted their pedophile prophet. This is no "hate crime". The infidels who are being murdered are the ones full of fear. The Muslims who are doing the murdering are the ones full of hate.

I like Allahfanculo's offer to desecrate a Qur'an. For safety, we shouldn't say where or when we're going to do it, but our freedom of speech should be exercised freely and often. There should be burqa-clad individuals burning and urinating and spitting on Qur'ans (Arabic only, please) all over the nation. The moderate Muslims can kill one or two demonstrators, they cannot kill hundreds, or thousands. This is what it means to live in the West with its freedoms; to see one's prophet in a jar of piss, to see an anatomically-correct chocolate statue on display, and be offended without killing anyone. The threats of the Abdullah's of the world have to be challenged. They have to understand how incompatible Western freedom and Islamic violent intolerance are. They have to understand that we do not live our lives under their rules, under the threat of their violent outbursts. They should not be here, based on what they believe. They should not be tainted with our corruption, and we are so very, very corrupt. We have to remind them.

Posted by: special_guest at April 11, 2007 1:51 PM

Racist skin-head, Jesus worshipping zionists must have been behind this criminal act.

I wish they did this infront of me. 1000 years Jail sentence will seem like a walk in the park.

Posted by: Abdullah

Posted by: Pelayo at April 11, 2007 1:51 PM

Racist skin-head, Jesus worshipping zionists must have been behind this criminal act. Posted by Abdullah

Abdullah, you don't know very much do you? Skin head is a name associated with low intellegent, adolescent, fatherless, and jobless neo-Nazis. These ceatures are Muslim helpers. I doubt very seriously that skin heads had any thing to do with this.

It could have been perpetrated by Hindus, Zoroastrians, Jews, Christians, others, or even atheists, just to name some people who are targets of jihad.

If you are going to insult people, use the correct slur, please.

Posted by: Pelayo at April 11, 2007 1:58 PM

Abdullah,

Thanks for your answer and for proving that you don't belong in the West, and probably no other muslim with your outlook either. Mohammed (may he burn forever in hell) was a pedophile, rapist, murderer, liar, and well just an altogether not very nice person. Your holy book is a work of hate and should be banned based on the new UN guidelines on hate literature.

I don't know where you live, but you have truly proven that you don't subscribe to western values and culture. As one of the ours said, why don't you show up to the former site of the World Trade Center in NYC on the 4th of July. I'll join in bringing a copy of the Koran and it will be well and truly desecrated. Please feel free to respond then. I'm sure your death would make a 1000 year jail sentence seem pleasant.

I pray that you embrace the teachings of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and give up your evil religion.

Posted by: schwaben at April 11, 2007 2:08 PM

Some one needs to find the person that did this fast and give them their NEA grant money. Radical artist like this need tax payer support. (Like the Vigina dialogue plays).. Sarcasm.

Abdullah, FYI.. not all of us are Dhimis and will roll over to let you cut off our heads.

Posted by: senor doeboy at April 11, 2007 2:16 PM

I can not be bothered really by Abdulla or the rest it does not matter what he says, he was in the spirit to uphold Islam but it seems the answers have been made thin.

Errrr..... Abdullah, what race is Muslim?

Posted by: Elric66

To be honest Islam is Arabic race centred as the Old Testament is Jewish based.

The Old Testament was specific for the Adamites to the, Noah’s bloodline, to Abraham to Isaac and the Israelites.

This trail let to Jesus as the sacrifice of all man's bloodline that kept in line through this method pure Bloodline filtering, which was eventually sacrificed on the cross, this was all known in scripture but people then could not see it.

So the Old Testament is Jewish by bloodline race it had to be so I think that Religion as a race to its core is Jewish and only for these people, but many different races could have carried Jewish bloodlines anyway along the way as Noah produced the different races with his children.

The New Testament is the time of the Gentiles the whole world knowing of Christ and how we deal with that knowledge a time for non-Jews to take responsibility and gain salvation too.

Now what race is Islam?

Islam is of the Arab race it applies with bloodlines too but Abraham’s other son Ishmael not Isaac as the chosen bloodline according to Arabs and the Koran.

So the Arab bloodline even if Muhammad's was dubious as no one kept his family bloodline records (which the Bible specifically makes not of but the Koran does not), but at that time the pure Jewish or Noah’s bloodline was probably divided so much it did does not count even if a claim today can be made to persuade people.

But what Race is Islam? It's Arabic suppose everything is Arabic the Koran can only be in it's pure form Arabic in language, Muhammad was too even if no one knows for sure his pureness unless you go by the voices he heard that he spoke to God.

The 12th Imam will be Arabic again blood related so the whole thing is Arab dominated as where Christianity its really all for all now, but yes the Jews have a path of destiny too the realisation of Christ and expectation of a Messiah at some point.

Many other races believe in Islam of course but its core is Arab and its God is Arab.

Posted by: jesusisthelamb at April 11, 2007 2:19 PM

"The front of the Quran, Islam's holy book, read "Mohammad pedophile.""

must be someone from this site. LOL. Anyway if you are reading, nice poster from tennessee next time don't forget to spread the book with pig's piss.

That would be perfect.

Posted by: FedUpagain at April 11, 2007 2:27 PM

Racist skin-head, Jesus worshipping zionists must have been behind this criminal act.

I wish they did this infront of me. 1000 years Jail sentence will seem like a walk in the park.

Posted by: Abdullah at April 11, 2007 10:28 AM

WHAT IS YOUR LOCATION AND EMAIL ADDRESS?

Posted by: KAOSKTRL at April 11, 2007 2:29 PM

Marginally apropos of race and ancient history, does anyone know anything pro or con about the idea of "allah" developing from that of an ancient regional moon god?

I've still not been able to confirm this or find anything to the contrary -- not that I've looked so hard.

Posted by: joeblough at April 11, 2007 2:32 PM

IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THAT MUSLIM CENTER IN TENNESSEE HERE IS THE INFO:

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Quote:

Muslim
There are no mosques in Clarksville, but Islamic services are held at 1 p.m. Fridays in Building 2207 on Fort Campbell.

Clarksville Islamic Center is at 1817-A Madison St. Hassan Said serves as president for the group of approximately 100 people. For information call 648-2114 or 217-0552.

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FROM:
"Churches
Names, addresses, numbers, pastors for places of worship"
located at:
http://www.theleafchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/99999999/LIFESTYLE07/608270374

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at April 11, 2007 2:33 PM

Allahfanculo, I would invite Abdullah to a corner in downtown Nashville, but after he meets with you he may not be able to make the trip.

Posted by: Pelayo

Pelayo.. can you possibly make it to NY July 4th Weekend? That would make TWO of us "artists". We could then try to get more people to participate in this important work of live action art. Maybe apply for an NEA grant.. Bacon FAT chance of getting one, but the process oughta be fun.. I'd love to see the reason they'd use to turn us down.

I'd love to see UAC do another demo at the site on July 4th!

And bring back the Loyalist Party too!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 2:36 PM

Racist skin-head, Jesus worshipping zionists

WOW!!! WHAT a name for a punk band!

Move over Dead Kennedys!! NIN and Front242!!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 2:38 PM

Clarksville Islamic Center mailing address:

For information call 648-2114 or 217-0552.

CLARKSVILLE
Islamic Center of Clarksville
Br. Abu Sarwar
1817-A Madison St
Suite 5
Clarksville, TN 37043

alternate number (not sure is this one still works):(931) 216-0449

source #2:
http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?p=Islamic+Center+clarksville+tennessee&sp=1&ei=UTF-8&fr=b1ie7&x=wrt&SpellState=n-3920010338_q-OapmwFENu7.BsTYze8abnwAAAA%40%40&u=www.muslimeen.org/Portals/0/Newsletters/Eid%2520special%2520edition%2520fitr.pdf&w=islamic+center+clarksville+tennessee&d=MJdGbfmdOdYb&icp=1&.intl=us

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at April 11, 2007 2:44 PM

Also when you want to track down Islamic centers, businesses, organizations try:

Islamic Finder:
http://www.islamicfinder.org/

(not to be confused with Satanist Finder--they are similar of course but not the same thing exactly--satanists are more honest about whom they serve).

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at April 11, 2007 2:49 PM

Only a mad infidel will mess with these two things whilst near Muslims, who love death more than he loves life.

Posted by: Abdullah

And we love both life and death more than we love moslems. ANYTHING is preferrable over a state of "living death" which is the state of moslems and those whom they have sway over.

Yes, that includes our own blinded liberals!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 2:50 PM

At the county fair, I had a delicious quarandog.

Posted by: MP at April 11, 2007 2:53 PM

Sadly nabi ZK has no qur'an to desacrate. I do often visit mohametan themed websites while eating haram foods. I want to make clear I am talking pork products here.

nabi ZK

Posted by: zonie kafir at April 11, 2007 2:59 PM

Treehugger, you are correct. If many many descrated korans showed up, the courts would be jammed and the mohammedans would be getting a clearer picture of what happens of what we think about their "feelings."

Posted by: the poetess

I think we should all get togther and do it.. at least in small groups. What better day than INDEPENDENCE Day!!

Maybe not communictae ourselves to the enemy or else these Columbia "anti-racist" "student" thugs are likely to show up and start violence.

If there is vilence let the Mo-HAM-Mad-dans be the ones to start such violence.

We should also have displays of 'piss christ' and the dung 'artwork' to make our point. We want EQUAL rights in religion and blasphemy!

To the Mos I say: NOT IN OUR HOUSE!!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 2:59 PM

Okay,

It's time to pull out an old favorite video clip and watch it again.

http://www.cair.com/video/kill_the_koran/

Posted by: dm60462 at April 11, 2007 3:02 PM

I don't know where you live, but you have truly proven that you don't subscribe to western values and culture. As one of the ours said, why don't you show up to the former site of the World Trade Center in NYC on the 4th of July. I'll join in bringing a copy of the Koran and it will be well and truly desecrated.

[...]

Posted by: schwaben

Schwaben.. are you in? Maybe I'll contact the Loyalist party if we have a few folks willing to show up and 'decorate' the book of hate!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 3:03 PM

" Allahfanculo"

......ever hear of "MegaDeath"...

a real band, with a great islamic name...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 11, 2007 3:05 PM

http://www.cair.com/video/kill_the_koran/

Posted by: dm60462

Excellent! Great work! You must apply for an NEA grant today!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 3:10 PM

Yes I heard of Mega Death LOL
How about "Queen" for Abby's favorites?

Here's some Winston Churchill audio for inspiration:

http://www.soundboard.com/sb/winston.aspx

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 3:13 PM

I have another cool band the MoFoes will like. They're called:

"My life with the Thrill Kill Cult"

I kid you not, o disbelievers!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 3:14 PM

WTF.. moslems in **TENNESSEE** now?

Posted by: Allahfanculo

My parents live in Chattanooga. During my last Christmas holiday visit, I was surprised to notice that one of the houses directly across the street from their church had a large black sign with gold lettering in the front yard - "Islamic Study Center of Chattanooga". "Wow, how long has that been up?" was my question.

They told me how just the month before it had gone up, and that the pastor and others had knocked on the door attempting to say hello and extend a warm invitation to a church potluck dinner. The door was never answered, even after a couple more attempts.

My second question was if any vandalism or negativity had shown up. None. Not one stroke of spray paint or one role of toilet paper. I was a little surprised by that, given the large youth membership at their church.

In February my parents said the sign came down as quietly as it had gone up. A little strange. It's as if those Muslims were testing - trying to get a reaction that could then be used to claim victim hood.

Posted by: deesine at April 11, 2007 3:15 PM

Where's Abby..? Bedtime for Bozo? Or bozotime for prayer?

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 3:15 PM

Submit the "BLT Koran" to the National Endowment for the Arts for a grant.

Don't let the jihadists gain any advantage by undeserved "pity".

Confront them with our freedoms.

And "out" the NEA's hypocrisy simultaneously.

Yummy.

Posted by: profitsbeard

Hey, you beat me to it I see.. so how about it? Let's ROLL!!!!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 3:19 PM

I think this was a despicable act and even though I know that Muslims themselves are guilty of many such acts, but I don’t think we should descend to their level! Though I disagree that this is a hate-crime! To tell the truth “hate-crime” is such an absurd category in general and I think it shouldn’t have existed at the first place. In my opinion the incident is just plane and simple harassment and of course it should be rejected and denounced and prevented in the future.

Posted by: ritamalik at April 11, 2007 3:21 PM

Art ideas:

1. "piss mahomet"

done exactly like the "piss christ" was done.

In art circles this technique is called "appropriation.

2. The Elephant dung painting.. ditto..

And we should ask for similar public funding too!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 11, 2007 3:22 PM

here is a great band name (and a real one too)

Afghanistan Banana Stand

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 11, 2007 3:23 PM

Assalamau LAikum Brother of the Deen Abdullah,

Abdullah....I am here to try and support you....this is a most dispicible act by someone to do.

You should recognise though that it has been designed to get a reaction from muslims....and you have provided a virtuso performance for the infedel here.

You have simply got to control yourself....Allah SWT knows who has done this...and he/she will be asked the question either via police arrest or Allah's court later on.

Why should he need others to defend his holy book, surely you believe Allah SWT is all knowing.

Posted by: Naseem at April 11, 2007 3:37 PM

Piss Christ and Mary in Dung as offensive as they were to Christians could not be considered crimes at all because they were exhibited in a museum. By the same logic also Muhammad cartoons were not hate crime or any other crime at all because they were published at a newspaper. So anyone who could find it offensive could pass and refuse to watch it. No-one was not forced to see it. But this bacon-stuffed Quran was found at the steps of the mosque, so Muslims who were there for prayer had no choice to pass without seeing it because they were caught by surprise! Besides Mosque is their place of worship after all and people should not harass them with things that they don’t want to see. But of course we are all free to rub lots of bacon on any Quran that we can get our hands on and even show it in a museum if any museum would dare to display it! Muslims can pass on this exhibit if they want! Although personally I would not consider such piece as art, not because of sympathy with Islam. But simply because it is ugly. But artist would have the write to produce it if he is so inclined.

Posted by: ritamalik at April 11, 2007 3:40 PM

In my opinion the incident is just plane and simple harassment and of course it should be rejected and denounced and prevented in the future. Posted by: ritamalik

It's one thing to say that we shouldn't descend to their level, although one could argue that given the levels they've dug, we couldn't, no matter how hard we tried. However, I don't see your point as to how this is harassment. If someone sees a Quran with something scribbled in it, and stuffed with bacon near a mosque, it obviously is unusable by the mosque in question, and all that the finder had to do was toss it into the trash. Of course, being the publicity hogs that they are, they went to the nearest reporters, who, being as they are completely PC, just lapped it up - and I don't mean the bacon.

As others have suggested, imagine the media taking this seriously had it been done to a Bible. Unless of course there was a White against Black racial tinge to it - like a Bible being desecrated next to a Black church.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at April 11, 2007 3:46 PM

seemziez!!

Just mention Afghanistan Banana Stand and who shows up...

But seriously, I thought you were the same person as dulard. I'm confused.

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go ahead

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Posted by: zonie kafir at April 11, 2007 3:49 PM

Disgusting! Bacon wrapped bullshit? What a waste of bacon! I would much prefer it to wrap some delicious wine sautéed scallops.

Posted by: Abu Allah at April 11, 2007 4:02 PM

Well descend to their level. For Islam to get out of the gutter, it will have to crawl out of the sewer first. Really, all this religious nonsence. If people want to believe in silly things, things that a child could see was drivel, why should they be immune from criticism? It was a book, with bacon in it, that is all, what is so bad about that? It is no different from mocking Christ, or that Hindu god with the blue face. Religious people should stop being so precious about their primitive beliefs, and that goes for all of them.