A victory for truth, law and common sense. Let's hope it stands.

Posted by: MP at April 16, 2007 7:52 PM

A display of sense.

Posted by: Hugh at April 16, 2007 7:52 PM

The Minnesota Supreme Court? Take it all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, MAC!

Posted by: 3812Michelle at April 16, 2007 7:57 PM

if only there were some basis for severing civil-rights protection from islam.

Posted by: StillBreathing at April 16, 2007 8:12 PM

Just make sure that no Muslims are on that MN jury. Would be tough, given that that's the state that sent Keith Ellison to Congress.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at April 16, 2007 8:27 PM

It's interesting that the refusal to take riders with guide dogs has disappeared. I thought that was also an issue. Someone must have told the pious ones that the Disabilities Act trumped their religious feelings. Unfortunately, this is probably not over. Actually, it's only just begun...there are other fronts to open, right in the airport. The Muslim/Minneapolis lawyers have to work on foot baths in the airport bathrooms for cabbies and Muslim passengers, separate prayer rooms in the airport, separate waiting rooms for female Muslim passengers, and calls to prayer over the airport loud speaker. They sensed a weakness there and probably still believe that time, numbers and media sympathy are on their side.

Posted by: maryrose at April 16, 2007 8:28 PM

And what if I was carrying a toy for a child - say a soft Miss Piggy. Would that be deemed as offensive by MAC?

Posted by: DP111 at April 16, 2007 9:01 PM

The trouble is that Muslims are always making demands, and the media side with what they percieve as a victim minority claiming some rights. Now what if Infidels started demanding concessions from Muslims? What then?

Posted by: DP111 at April 16, 2007 9:04 PM

Still Breathing says:

"if only there were some basis for severing civil-rights protection from islam."

I foresee this and other issues on Islamic claims of civil rights violations to be a future battleground against the fight against Islamification of the U.S. as long as Islam is simply recognized as just a religion. Although this recent case is a victory for the good guys, I see potential issues and cases going the other way if the Religion of Islam is the only focus.

It it why education of the puplic and politicians is so important. Must of us who bother to learn more about Islam know it is more than just a religion. It is a cult, a way of life, and a system for government; not JUST a religion. It is no less insidious and threatening to our democratic institutions than communism. (Probably more threatening than communism, since advocates of communism could not hide behind the cover of religion. There will be no Senate hearings or Joe McCarthys to uncover closeted Islamist- No questions like: "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Religion of Isam?"
A. "Yes. So f*****g what. I need to go now it's prayer time, bye." is an accepatable answer.)

The law will come down on the side of Muslims more and more if they can successfully frame their claims as discrimination against their religion. Religous practices are given high level of protection in the courts, no matter how strange and unreasonable they seem.

Though I am not absolutely certain, it would appear this was an administative court decision.
(not a real judge, and, the case may not set precedent for future cases) The cabbies have a right to take it into a state, or possibly a federal court. I would bet that this is not over and, if no out-of-court compromise is reached, another court will ahve a look-see at it.
I don't know if that other court would be in the same jurisdiction as the flying imans case, but, if it is, it would make Minnesota the testing grounds for some interesting and far-reaching legal decisions.

And, (last thought- promise), if cases start going in favor of the Islamist, I am not so sure even a legislative change to the Civil Rights Act will remedy the situation. Some day, we may be looking at a need to amend our constitution to deal with the threat.

Posted by: Al E. Baba at April 16, 2007 9:08 PM

i think that those opposing this nonsense from these salafist cabbies should make it a first amendment issue. MAC is a government agency whose commissioners are appointed by the govenor. what MAC is being asked to do is to inject aspects of sharia law into the minnesota- a clear violation of the establishment clause.

Posted by: irish_infidel at April 16, 2007 9:14 PM

Can't wait to get into one of those cabs reeking of alcohol, smoked sausage and porkrinds. Be a shame if I puked, too.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at April 16, 2007 9:30 PM

Perhaps these Muslim cab drivers should find another line of work. One that doesn't violate their "religious rights."

Or, they can go back to Somalia and compete with donkeys to see who does a better job at pulling two-wheeled carts down the street.

Some people are just too flat out ignorant to know when they have it good.

Posted by: DCWatson at April 16, 2007 10:09 PM

Must of us who bother to learn more about Islam know it is more than just a religion. It is a cult, a way of life, and a system for government; not JUST a religion.

Posted by: Al E. Baba

Which is why it is important we, every one of us, stop dignifying Islam by calling it a religion.
Islam derives merit by association with genuine religions.
It is not necessary to use the word religion when referring to Islam.

So, instead of saying "the religion of Islam", just say "Islam".
We all know it's a cult, but referring to Islam as a cult in certain circles might deafen otherwise receptive ears.

Eventually, if we take small steps now, Islam might be stripped of its "religion" cloak, when enough people wake up to its true nature, but we should be doing what we can personally to make it happen in our own heads first.
As they say, "think global, act local"...or some such.

Posted by: Mike_W at April 16, 2007 10:37 PM

I am sure that these muslims will keep going to the courts until they find that liberal judge that will give in to them. They have bottomless patient and unlimited cash to work with.

Posted by: desidude at April 16, 2007 10:51 PM

You know folks, we are on the defensive with this crap that these people continue to do. We need to turn the tables on them and keep them on the defensive. It's exhausting but in the long run, we don't live in a peaceful country anymore. There is agitation and upheaval here because of the jihad. But if the price of freedom is eternal vigilance, that's okay. Just keep it up on them, not them keeping it up on us.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at April 16, 2007 11:27 PM

I think that this bad PR for the Islamists. Many sleeping Americans could be slightly stirred by the stupidity of the Moslems issue and proceed to the light of day of the ultimate stupidity of islam itself and the glaring contardiction it is to our American values...it could even lead them to actually discover what our American values are..and even have them fall upon the spiritual inspiration that caused the American experience..this spiritual inspiration thus being the most unwielding weapon against Islamism.

Posted by: Briars at April 16, 2007 11:34 PM

Yes, we need to keep bringing it up, keep pointing it out. Patient, persistent, conitnual reminding of the facts. Americans aren't stupid, just busy. When they see something that is fundamentally illogical and it becomes an irritant, they will complain about it and more people will find out.

Can anyone tell me though, why Minnesota? That's about as far away from the Sahara Desert as you can get.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at April 16, 2007 11:42 PM

Since neither CABS nor TAXIS are mentioned in the Koran, no Muslim should be allowed to pilot one.

Case closed.

(They want strict, let's give them strict.)

Posted by: profitsbeard at April 16, 2007 11:46 PM

Some day, we may be looking at a need to amend our constitution to deal with the threat.

Posted by: Al E. Baba at April 16, 2007 09:08 PM

I certainly agree, and the sooner the better. But we still have a very long and rocky road to travel before the other 75% of Americans realize that islam is a predatory death cult and muslims are a fifth column. Assuming that our present and future leaders do not continue to sell us out to the UN, the immigration lobby, and the special interest minority groups, a Constitutional amendment is the only thing that will save us.

Muslims will exploit our legal system and use it against us until it collapses amidst the chaos and confusion. There are plenty of left-wing judges that would be delighted to further distort and convolute the Constitution until it does become a suicide pact.

Posted by: Susanp at April 17, 2007 2:41 AM

@ maryrose

I have no problem with ritual washing facilities etc if it is fully financed by muslims.

Posted by: FreeSpeech at April 17, 2007 4:14 AM

The Constitution will be amended one way or the other sooner or later, If not now in favor of fitnah then in the future to outlaw it, over pain of death.

Posted by: KAOSKTRL at April 17, 2007 4:40 AM

Now if MAC were really populated with studs - they might gently inquire into the legal presence status of these people....

Posted by: infidel! at April 17, 2007 4:58 AM

"The only approved refusals would involve the driver's safety or would be prompted by riders, such as excess luggage or large families."

.....this would be rare....most who travel with large families or with a lot of luggage generally have made pre arrangements with families or vehicle rental agencies to provide proper transportation....

....in those rare incidences where prearrangement was not done...most cabbies will still try to accomodate the people (cabbies charge extra for excess luggage)....if necessary, the cabbies will use two cabs or other vehicles if availiable, such as vans, mini buses, stationwagons....

....the customer comes first (unless you are a muslim cabbie....)....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 17, 2007 6:51 AM

Jeff Hassan, a lawyer representing Muslim cabbies, said the issue might wind up going to the Minnesota Supreme Court.

This is a familiar tactic used extensively by the ACLU against school systems. Threaten them with a long and expensive legal battle in hopes that they will cave in. I'll bet a dollar to a doughnut that Saudi money will be involved.

Posted by: Pelayo at April 17, 2007 7:13 AM

What about pets? I thought they were also refusing passage to infidels (proud to be a cat toting one, btw) with a cat (or dog). Does anyone know?

Posted by: sheiknbake4pork at April 17, 2007 7:31 AM

"Jeff Hassan, a lawyer representing Muslim cabbies, said the issue might wind up going to the Minnesota Supreme Court."

.....that's right your Honor, My client claims the right to refuse any customer service to anyone not following his beliefs, I understand the airport is not a mosque or church, but that is irrevelant, My client understands he is employed to provide services to airport travelers, but that is unimportant if the travelers are behaving "UnIslamic"....I realize we are in America...but that is also irrevelant..my client says you must submit and that includes you....bad things will happen to you if you do not submit...no, your Honor, my client is not threatening you...just do not do any UnIslamic things, your Honor....you are sitting in a Muslim Chair in a Muslim country....you have been informed....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 17, 2007 8:13 AM

Can anyone tell me though, why Minnesota? That's about as far away from the Sahara Desert as you can get.

Isabela
I was only in MN once in the early 70's to visit a college chum. It was St.Paul. The person I was seeing was working for one of those organisations that suck government money to fix up old neighborhoods for blacks and other disadvantaged groups.
In only two days I could see that there was some serious fiddling going on with this group. The level of almost communistic crap was appalling and I have never had anything to do with this person since. But I can imagine that this ares Minn./ St. Paul would be fertile ground for the growth of a liberal/multicultural heaven for the Religion of Victims.

Posted by: auntbea at April 17, 2007 8:23 AM

Juxtaposing this thread with the one on JW about the cell phone rumors, perhaps here's an idea. Travelers to Minneapolis should seek out these cab drivers, and then strike up conversations. For example:

"So where are you from? ... Somalia. Oh, that's so intersting! How do you like America? Except -- isn't it terrible about what the USDA has been doing to Muslims? ... Oh, haven't you heard? I saw it on the Internet, that someone who used to work for the government claims that when the USDA examines meat -- what do you call that kind of meat that Muslims can eat? ... Halal, that was it, thank you! Yeah, this guy says the CIA has used the USDA meat inspections process to inject halal meat with chemicals that make men sterile. And now that guy has disappeared and his website mysteriously removed!"

Think of the fun a few imaginative people could cause.

Posted by: CJ at April 17, 2007 8:39 AM

"Can anyone tell me though, why Minnesota? That's about as far away from the Sahara Desert as you can get."

.....The Muslims used to watch the "Mary Tyler MOore Show" and could see how stupid Americans were there...The decision to move there was reinforced when the Muslims witnessed the Minnesota voters elect a "champion wrestler" "Jesse, (the body) Ventura" an icon of American intelligence and political savvy...The voters of Minnesota now have elected Keith Ellison (who agrees with the Musims that change in America is needed)....

....Muslims in America are all part of a massive land grab scheme and they will take it where they can get it....and they do not move out....the Muslims take over the voting base , elect favored politicians who then enact the Muslim agenda in schools and universities, in public places and in the public workforce and in the court systems....

....inch by inch the Muslims are trying to take over your land and the voters in Minnesota are showing you the way...

....unfortunately, the voters in Minnesota are also showing you a dhimmicrat vision for your future....

....Muslims, whether in Minnesota, Michigan, California, Missouri, or Georgia....are trying to disrupt your life by changing all the rules...

...Muslims are trying to use our courts against us...and some of the judges are conceeding....and some of the people are too stupid to see it coming...

...be armed and be prepared....practice your survival skills..and inform your friends...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 17, 2007 8:46 AM

Think of the fun a few imaginative people could cause.

Posted by: CJ

This is hillarious. I do this when I chat w/ ultra-libs and USA hating immigrants!!!!! Its fun, pretending to be all into what is being said, and messin' w/'em. Paranoid bastahds. You want taqiya(sp?) you got it.

Posted by: americanmadestrat at April 17, 2007 9:39 AM

Aunt Bea and Ex Sgt Brown,

Interesting. I'm surprised they didn't try for Southern California, my old hometown, although CAIR sure seems to have a thick presence in Anaheim where my in-laws hail from. I guess if they can live in desert hellholes they can stand the snow. It's probably more comfortable to wear a burqa up there since you can really do the clothes layering bit. But then making sure their women are comfortable has never been a high priority for Muslims. I'm sure you're right...it has more to do with the political climate than the weather.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at April 17, 2007 12:06 PM

Islam should be translated Expedience not 'Submission'. It was all about Mohammed's Ponzi scheme from the beginning anyway. It's nothing more than a justification machine for sociopathic behavior.

It will slink away from demands when met with opposing force. It is opportunistic, parasitic and the plague of this Earth. It must be pushed into the dark corners along with the rest of the diseases.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at April 17, 2007 12:09 PM

Right , now that everyone on the planet with more
than plankton for brains knows that Islam really
is it is time to ban it and it`s vile book.

Posted by: aladdinsane57 at April 17, 2007 12:50 PM

If those Somali cab drivers cannot abide by the taxi company rules, maybe, they should not be taxi cab drivers.

If those Somali cab drivers don't like living in the usa, they should move back to Somalia.

Posted by: callmeinfidel at April 17, 2007 1:33 PM

This is exactly what is required: for normal, everyday people, such as the members of this commission, to say "No". No, we will not live our lives according to your rules. You are free to choose to live in lands where sharia is the law. This is not one of them.

Posted by: special_guest at April 17, 2007 1:40 PM

Now what if Infidels started demanding concessions from Muslims? What then?

Posted by: DP111

I don't know about you. Fro me there's only one concession I need from the moslems: L.E.A.V.E.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 17, 2007 5:27 PM

If those Somali cab drivers don't like living in the usa, they should move back to Somalia.

Posted by: callmeinfidel

Call me stupid.. these somalis are described as 'refugees'. WHAT exactly are they 'refugees' FROM?! Is Somalia not one of the 52 officially moslem countries?

WHAT exactly is the nature of their alleged 'persecution' that they seek 'refuge' from?!

Where do WE go when we soon will need REFUGE from pigslam!?

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 17, 2007 5:33 PM

A bit more gratitude from these 'refugees' in place of the VERGUENZA with which they make their endless demands.

Maybe we should DEDUCT all legal expenses we incur from this and other lawsuits - resulting out of the larger jihad against us - from our UN 'dues' from now on.

The UN and the rest of these unelected "world bodies" are getting tiresome.

In fact I wish someone truly conservative had a lawsuit against our membership in the UN. In my view membership in the UN violates the Constitution.

The UN constantly cajoles and demands and undermines the authority of the Unites States government. Therefore it must be considered an enemy of the Constitution and by extension the People of the United States.

Were it not for the UN - we might not be saddled with all the dregs and leftovers of the islamic world.

Let us be 100% clear about this: The UN is our ENEMY!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 17, 2007 5:44 PM

I wrote to MAC urging that the stiffer penalties be imposed on cab drivers who discriminate. I look forward to seeing the first Muslim suspended for 30 days and then lose his cab license for two years.I'm sure the local Imams and their fellow Muslims will be glad to support them financially.Its beyond outrageous that Muslims would immigrate from a hellhole like Somalia then dare to discriminate against other US citizens.

Posted by: Roxane at April 17, 2007 6:38 PM

I'm sure the local Imams and their fellow Muslims will be glad to support them financially.Its beyond outrageous that Muslims would immigrate from a hellhole like Somalia then dare to discriminate against other US citizens.

Posted by: Roxane

If "only" the eemamz were to suport them financially!! I am afraid they'll claim unemployment and cast themselves as latter-day Civil Rights Martyrs.. complete with PBS [Palestinian Broadcasting System] documentary camera crews in tow.

So they'll get either unemployment or welfare.

And potentially lawsuit money to boot.

Our well-meant system is so easily exploited by our enemies.
And it is so hard to toughen up our system in face of the obstruction we face from the dhimmis and the fools in our own ranks.

The enemy may be divided in Shia and sunni and amadi and so on. But they are UNITED like the BORG when it comes to carving us up amongst themselves.

We are the ones in need of Unity.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 17, 2007 6:58 PM

If you are fired you are not eligible for unemployment, they will need to use their saving if they have any. And welfare as we know it changed 10 years ago in the US. Benefits were reduced and are timed limited. Able bodied men and women who can work will have to work for their benefits at jobs that the welfare office assigns them to.If you refuse to work you lose your benefits.I'm also not sure that immigrants are eligible for welfare as they are supposed to have sponsors so as NOT to be a burden to the taxpayer.Lawsuit money is also not guaranteed. That is if they even file a lawsuit and the lawsuit is not thrown out of court or is tied up for years in court. Ultimately they will end up being a burden on their Muslim brothers rather then inconveniencing the infidels which was the idea behind the Sharia complaint cab system. Lets see how much their Muslim brothers love them.

Posted by: Roxane at April 17, 2007 7:17 PM