Sarkozy better stay away from the Swedish and Finnish court systems. Fortunately, the Nobel Peace Prize is awarded in Norway , so he will be able to pick up his prize without fear of arrest in Sweden.

Posted by: Old Atlantic at May 7, 2007 8:00 AM

I am very glad Sarkozy was elected. I will be watching with great interest.

Posted by: Josephine at May 7, 2007 8:10 AM

I hope Sarkozy has excellent bodyguards and lots of protection - sounds like he'll be needing it.

Events in France over the next few months should be very interesting.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at May 7, 2007 8:20 AM

Hopefully the tide is turning. It's all very well to say it, but difficult to enforce it. But if he acts on what he says, it will be a good thing. Maybe other European countries, and even Britain, will draw a line in the sand, and say, if you don't like it, don't cross it, who knows.
I may start to learn French.

Posted by: Ian at May 7, 2007 8:23 AM

Vive Sarkozy!

May the French Republic stand up for the ideals for which it stands, for all its citizens.

Liberty, Equality, Fraternity.

Liberty from fear of attack for telling unpleasant truths.

Equality for women and men regardless of culture.

Fraternity between all those who respect the French constitution, democracy, free speech and the rule of law.

Vive le France!

Posted by: veil416 at May 7, 2007 8:24 AM

Video's showing 'restive' France.

http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Borg at May 7, 2007 8:29 AM

Stay tuned!

The coming weeks and months will be verrrryy interrresting!!!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at May 7, 2007 8:30 AM

How wonderful to hear this! Used to listening to comments of our spineless,Dhimmi Politicians this is a moment to savour. However, Sarko will be target for assassination from Day One of his Presidency. Muslims HATE strong,fighting Infidels who expose the truth about Death Cult of
Islam.

Posted by: Morgane at May 7, 2007 9:20 AM

Thanks Borg for the video link. I remember reading somewhere that an American in Paris tried to report some incident of street crime and the police either wouldn't take the report or wouldn't take it seriously. I also recall that it was only the old in France who still regarded crime as serious and civility as expected.

Posted by: Old Atlantic at May 7, 2007 9:24 AM

Sarkozy should be judged by his actions primarily. Can he walk the walk in remotely the same way that he talks the talk? I must say I'm a bit sceptical, many a time has a politician talked great but turned out to be a disappointment.

Posted by: Witch-king of Angmar at May 7, 2007 9:25 AM

If Sarkozy's gonna fight FGM and polygamy, but to succeed he must confront the provincial and national bureaucrats who have a stake in the continued practice of same. Cultural diversity somehow always seems to entail socialist currency soaked in blood.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at May 7, 2007 9:28 AM

No doubt the Muslim community will condemn these remarks as racist and anti-Muslim. They are surely outraged that the infidels in France have been so uppity as to have elected such a “vile creature” and look forward to the future when the Muslim birth rates will put an end to this democracy nonsense and they get to cut off the foot and hand on opposite sides (per the Koran) of such infidels.

Posted by: FM at May 7, 2007 9:30 AM

Liberté, égalité, fraternité.
Vive la république française et ses défenseurs.
Aujourd'hui est le premier jour du reste de votre vie.

Long life for the French republic and its defenders. Today is the first day of the rest of your life.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at May 7, 2007 9:31 AM

The fact that Sarkozy won the elections shows what the French people think about the state of their country. There must be some trouble in multicultural paradise if people vote someone like Sarkozy president.

Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop at May 7, 2007 9:37 AM

Sarkozy is good, but Philippe de Villiers is better. One hopes that Sarkozy will not engage in any idiotic "reaching out" to the "youths" in the "banlieues" but make sure they know a different view of things now prevails, and the nonsense of the past will no longer be tolerated. Sarkozy was very good on television with the sinister Tariq Ramadan (for whom the jig is up in France, and in Switzerland, which is why he moved on to a temporary post in England, and hopes to take his show on the road to credulous America, where wilfully naive Scott Appleby, and Notre Dame, still await him -- or so he devoutly believes).

Sarkozy has spoken in the past about te possibility "integrating" the Muslims of France and even suggested the desirability of special programs to favor them in employment and with a kind of affirmative action in the schools. He still doesn't realize that teaching Believers French, teaching them about French culture, will not make them any better able to accept Infidel institutions, or make them necessarily loyal to the Infidel nation-state of France, but will assuredly provide many with the tools to better conduct Da'wa, to better promote their own, Muslim, aims. Such courses will be akin to those KGB schools for spies, where the spies were taught the languages and cultures of the West -- but still remained loyal to the Soviet system. Putin, for example, knows Geramn perfectly. He knew exactly how to fit in to East Germany (and there were other KGB agents like him in what was then West Germany). But those KGB agents were not "integrated" into the West, though they were living in that West, and had been taught all about it.

Sarkozy must be very careful. And not hesitate to turn that ship of state completely around so that it rises higher in the water. The motto of the city of Paris, quondam Lutetia -- fluctuat nec mergitur (it bobs up and down on the waves, but doesn't sink, as if Paris were a bar of Ivory soap) just will not do, not for Paris, and not for France.

"Not sinking" isn't enough of a goal. Nor will the faith in making France "prosperous" again sufficient. The Muslim presence is, of course, an enormous economic weight, and drain on the welfare state. But more importantly, it is a great political, social, civililizational weight, a general demoralizer for those who see the problem, and those who perform the mental equivalent of salti mortali in order not to see it.

Sarkozy can help to disabuse the permanent French establishment about the Deux-Rives notion, that somehow France, or France as the leader of Europe, shares a civilizaion with the Arab Muslims of North Africa (google "Deux-rivistes" and "Jihad Watch"), and that the differences are merely those of that pesky Mediterranean in the middle, and assorted olivier-roys and gilles-kepels who should lose their positions of unmerited and baleful influence, and if possible, their govenment employment at one of those many Centres de Recherches Scientifiques that provide sinecures for so many of the well-degreed and well-connected.

Posted by: Hugh at May 7, 2007 10:28 AM

Start the repatriations (deportations) today.

Let France be the example of How the West was Saved.

(And may Sarkozy's kevlar be the finest.)

Posted by: profitsbeard at May 7, 2007 10:37 AM

3 observations:

1. For the French, a very good development. I wish them well. I hope JihadWatch continues its excellent job of covering developments as they unfold.

2. For the rest of us in the U.S., I hope this development will also become something we can take some benefit. I would expect matters will become quite messy and violent in France if the changes this article intimates are made. We will be able to view how the French deal with this immigration/jihad problem they brought upon themselves. I am constantly amazed upon conversations with friends or strangers, while I probe them to learn of what they know or do not, of the slow and fast jihad. The majority are absolutely CLUELESS about what is going on with the Islamification of Europe. For the most part when they do learn of it, they become concerned and attentive. I think it will open alot of eyes and ears here in the U.S. We can learn a valueable lesson so that the same does not occur here.

3. The Islamification of Europe has progressed unimpeded for so many years the Jihadist sre not used to being told "no, you can't do that here, we are civilized". The muslim anger and violence over this new "French oppression" that will be exhibited in France will spill over to the rest of Eurabia. Once again, I think that will be bad for the rest of Eurabia, good for the U.S. only because it will finally cause some eyes and ears to open up here in the mezzanine.

Posted by: Leave Iraq Now at May 7, 2007 10:52 AM

Too bad it takes an immigrant Frenchman to save France.

Posted by: Socialpath at May 7, 2007 11:23 AM

Sounds like those "youths" are at it again, as promised. Who woulda guessed?

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=3147184

Posted by: Infidel33 at May 7, 2007 11:48 AM

The start of not only France, but of Europeans starting to take their Europe back.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at May 7, 2007 12:02 PM

Sarkozy as President is good. I hope that the French cabinet is composed of like minded people, rather than the de Villepins. Also, I don't know which party de Villiers is from, but he's the person I'd like to see as Prime Minister.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at May 7, 2007 12:15 PM

Those several video links at NoParasan linked to Dailymotion are moving slow.

Here's some short ones from youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mMTUbWzkR8&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHP0-_MtzVk

With lots of other short ones listed in the sidebar.

Posted by: Borg at May 7, 2007 12:15 PM

I dont know if Sarkozy as President is good I mean most consevative leaders in europe support Turkeys entry in the EU I had no problem with chirac as he critisied Turkeys human rights issues and didnt want Turkey joining the EU i guess i will have to wait and see what Sarkozy views are on Turkey joining the EU

Posted by: Greek Gurl at May 7, 2007 12:34 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlNiMFB3GxQ&mode=related&search=

Posted by: Borg at May 7, 2007 12:37 PM

En images : le tour de France des incidents

Publié le 07 mai 2007
Actualisé le 07 mai 2007 : 17h29

730 voitures incendiées, 592 personnes interpellées et 30 policiers blessés, de Paris à Marseille, le récit en images d'une nuit de violenc

730 cars burned is new count. 592 persons stopped, 30 police injured/wounded.

Does anyone know if interpellées means arrested or just stopped and questioned, as one dictionary I found stated?

Posted by: Old Atlantic at May 7, 2007 2:11 PM

Search French news on google for voitures incendiées

voitures incendiées

voitures

voitures brûlées

image search

creme brûlées

image search

voitures brûlées

voitures incendiées

Posted by: Old Atlantic at May 7, 2007 2:24 PM

Old Atlantic - check this tool out:

http://translate.google.com/translate_t

You can get rough translates of many languages into many other languages.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at May 7, 2007 2:25 PM

Map Paris arrondissements

Soirée électorale: Plus de trente voitures brûlées à Paris

Les véhicules ont été incendiés la nuit dernière dans les IIIe, IXe, Xe, XIIIe et XVIIIe arrondissements.

Posted by: Old Atlantic at May 7, 2007 2:29 PM

3,9,10 and 18 arrondissements are contiguous and to the north. You may sometimes see references to nord Paris. 13 is in a line south and below the Seine.

Note that 3 is next to the Bastille, 11. The riots in the center of Paris on Sunday were at the Bastille, now a monument only.

Wiki

Place de la Bastille
Also has a map of the arrondissements with Roman numerals.

Posted by: Old Atlantic at May 7, 2007 2:35 PM

A_Plague_on_Both_Houses, thanks. But its so much more fun to try to read French. And it feels like I got something for all those courses, even as France as I knew it disappears.

Posted by: Old Atlantic at May 7, 2007 2:37 PM

Hi Old Atlantic,
'Interpellé' is a vague term which can either mean 'detained' or 'taken in for questioning'.

We'll see how this new president pans out. As many JWers have pointed out, he is wrong in many areas, but when it comes to Turkey he is definately against their membership of the EU.

This may just be the fruit of typical gallic napoleonic plans to make EU at the service of France. French hegemony will definately be shattered if Turkey joins up.

Despite this, Sarkozy remains a great hope for Europe and I voted for him without hesitation yesterday.

Significantly (or not), it the evening news they announced that he went to Malta today.

Posted by: Sebastien at May 7, 2007 2:38 PM

French google news search for arrondissements in Paris with burning cars.

voitures brûlées Paris arrondissements

voitures incendiées Paris arrondissements

Posted by: Old Atlantic at May 7, 2007 2:43 PM

'Interpellé' is a vague term which can either mean 'detained' or 'taken in for questioning'.

from Sebastien

Thanks

Posted by: Old Atlantic at May 7, 2007 2:44 PM

Sebastien --

What happened to Philippe de Villiers? What does he recommend? Where does he stand? And can he overcome the campaign of nonsense and deliberate vilification?

Posted by: Hugh at May 7, 2007 2:55 PM

Significantly (or not), it the evening news they announced that he went to Malta today.
Posted by: Sebastien

Ostensibly for consideration of joining the Knights of Malta or some other reason?

bien amicalement to you Sebastien.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at May 7, 2007 2:56 PM

If our laws are not respected and if one does not wish to understand our values, if one does not wish to learn French, then one does not have any reason to be on French territory.

Wowzer!! Allez Allez Sarko!!
My goodness, it's so refreshing to read the words of an european who holds his european values dear, and wants to protect it. When are the other euro-dhimmis learn?

I would never guess I would say this, but euro-dhimmis need to learn from the French. I like France more and more. Allez Sarko!

Posted by: Crusader at May 7, 2007 3:05 PM

i am glad Sarkozy has won, i hope that he will stick to his course. Royal should be ashamed over her vote for me or there will be violence line.

Posted by: M Al-Content at May 7, 2007 3:08 PM

Sarkozy can help to disabuse the permanent French establishment about the Deux-Rives notion, that somehow France, or France as the leader of Europe, shares a civilizaion with the Arab Muslims of North Africa

Posted by Hugh

And I would add the following as well, even if somewhat OT here.

Sarkozy has strong Catholic credentials as well as a significant Jewish background. This puts him in a strong position to challenge the emerging Palestinianism and anti-Semitism in Europe's Christian establishment.

Sarkozy ought to meet with the Pope to hold talks about reforming the French Church and turning back the tide of Islamo-Christianity in Europe.

My position on the State of Israel is not the one that's typical of American evangelicals these days (some of which is frankly dangerous and incendiary) but to me its clear even on the basis of ordinary human and historical considerations that Israel deserves its place in the Middle East, and in the esteem of the world, and not only should the Jewish_Christian dialogue that the late Pope John Paul, to his great credit, pushed so hard, continue to move ahead, but the Church has to take it a step further by taking a stand and ceasing the dhimmi policy of being lead around by the nose by Islamist threats and aggression.

Tying that thought into the topic of this thread now, its clear that the shameful practice of polygamy, and its use as a weapon of demographic war against the West (and even its very existence) highlights just how LITTLE Islam actually has in common with Judaism and Christianity, the claims of the "3 great monotheistic faiths" crowd notwithstanding. Sarkozy should push the Church (and I use the term generically here, not just in reference to the Roman Communion) to denounce this shameful practice and other forms of Islamist abuse.

Posted by: templar at May 7, 2007 3:16 PM

Hugh,

I voted for de Villiers in the initial round of this election but only 2.5 % of voters did likewise.

But Villiers is very quiet at the moment. I hope, and it is a faint hope, that Sarkozy has been persuaded by some of his ideas and may offer him a role in government when the parliamentary elections are over.

I feel that this may be possible because Sarkozy acted on the knowledge made public by de Villiers about illegal Mosques and Islamic baggage handlers in Roissy.

Posted by: Sebastien at May 7, 2007 3:40 PM

Finally, a real man who takes up the good fight against Islamofascism.

He is forthright, principled, charismatic and extremely photogenic.

Let us hope that he continues in this vein. For, if he is what he appears to be, he will have fans clamoring for more assertions.

Posted by: BurkasforHitlery at May 7, 2007 3:42 PM

Royal should be ashamed over her vote for me or there will be violence line.

Posted by: M Al-Content

There was a time in the West when a threat like this would get you more than just shame.

Vive la France

I rather place great hopes on the statement he made yeasterday about how France will be about work. As opposed to welfare? that will really get those 'youths' hot.

Posted by: auntbea at May 7, 2007 4:31 PM

Like Sebastien, I hope that Sarkozy will prove to be one of these men we so desperately need in Europe.

However... I do not want to spoil the mood, but I must say that I'm far from convinced, unfortunately. And the end of his victory speech, yesterday, litteraly gave me the creeps - as it probably did for anybody who has read "Eurabia"... Maybe it's nothing, just "nice" words, but... read it for yourself:

"(...) Je veux lancer un appel à tous les peuples de la Méditerranée pour leur dire que c'est en Méditerranée que tout va se jouer, qu'il nous faut surmonter toutes les haines pour laisser la place à un grand rêve de paix et à un grand rêve de civilisation. Je veux leur dire que le temps est venu de bâtir ensemble une Union méditerranéenne qui sera un trait d'union entre l'Europe et l'Afrique. Ce qui a été fait pour l'union de l'Europe, il y a 60 ans, nous allons le faire aujourd'hui pour l'union de la Méditerranée. (...)"

Translation (from the Beeb's : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6631125.stm )

"(...) I want to issue a call to all the people of the Mediterranean to tell them that it is in the Mediterranean that everything is going to be played out, that we have to overcome all kinds of hatred to pave the way for a great dream of peace and a great dream of civilization. I want to tell them that the time has come to build together a Mediterranean union that will form a link between Europe and Africa. What was done for the union of Europe 60 years ago, we are going to do today for the union of the Mediterranean. (...)".

Sorry, but given the disguised-as-religion ideology of the people's living South of the Mediterranean, I want nothing of this. Peace is very fine, but this "dream" of a "Mediterranean Union" would probably be the death of Europe...

Posted by: pistache at May 7, 2007 4:47 PM

President Sarkozy's first test -sticking to his guns as in November 2005, he called rioting "youths" (muslims) what they are - "scum" and added that the areas infested by them needed to be "cleaned out with a power hose."
Also - "youths" are rioting again - on cue from the leftist/socialist (e.g. Royal et al). Is any better proof required - that there exists an alliance between the far left (tacitly supported by the useful idiot wings of any side) and islamofascist global movements.

Posted by: TINBH at May 7, 2007 4:51 PM

Pistache:

Your unease at the Sarkozy quote you posted above is understandable, but I note that a conciliatory tone is not uncommon, and is even expected at moments such as a triumphant politician's victory speech, or the greetings of a visiting head of state such as Pope Benedict XVI. Sarkozy's comments are no different in this respect than Pope Benedict's conciliatory comments about Turkey's admission to the EU. The wording is vague and makes no concrete committments. Benedict's comments, when read in full, indicate no more than the hypothetical possibility of Turkey being granted a place in a kind second circle of affiliates not participating as full members of the European Community, but in close association as a mediating power between Europe and the rest of the Middle East, something consistent with the thoughts he had articulated about Turkey's place in relation to Europe in the years prior to assuming the Papacy. Only time will tell, but likely Sarkozy has something similar in mind.

Just as worthy of mention are these words:

"I want to issue a call to everyone in the world who believes in the values of tolerance, freedom, democracy, humanism, to all those who are persecuted by tyranny, by dictatorships. I want to tell all of the children throughout the world, all of the ill-treated women throughout the world - I want to tell them that it will be France's pride and its duty to be at their side.

"France will be at the side of the Libyan nurses [Bulgarian nurses imprisoned in Libya], imprisoned for eight years. France will not abandon Ingrid Betancourt [held by Farc rebels in Colombia]. France will not abandon the women condemned to wear the burqa. France will not abandon the women who do not have freedom. France will be on the side of the oppressed of the world. This is France's message, it is France's identity, it is France's history".

There is great hope indeed in these words.

Posted by: templar at May 7, 2007 5:08 PM

100 % agreed with Pistache. That speech made me quite ill, as well as when he mentioned his desire to aid the oppressed whereever they are. It reminds me of Tony Blair's 'ethical foreign policy' announced by his gnomic foreign secretary in 1997.

His hand of friendship towards the USA was welcome as well...until he mentioned that he was going to do what he could to ensure the Kyoto protocal was enforced.

Despite all of this, I am convinced by his sincerity and more importantly, believe he is smart enough to learn.

Posted by: Sebastien at May 7, 2007 5:09 PM

ref pistache's comment above, i agree that bit of his speech is very worrying.
if Sarkozy means even some of the other things he said, this "great dream" will need a lot longer than 60 years to take shape, and is more likely to be left floating, an unaccepted olive branch.
if on the other hand he means to cave in asap, then it won't take long, and the only hatreds to be overcome will be ours. once we have learned to live like slaves, everything will be just fine.
but for now, i agree with templar, and have some hope.

Posted by: M Al-Content at May 7, 2007 5:15 PM

Pistache quotes the last, worrisome phrase from Sarkozy's speech. It does give off more than a whiff of Deux-Rivisme, which is discussed more fully in an article from 2005:

"Voila, deux-rivistes of the world

The large-scale presence of Muslims in France, as in other countries of Western Europe, has resulted for Infidels in a world that is far less pleasant, far more expensive, and far more physically insecure than it would be without such a Muslim presence. There is no French non-Muslim who could deny the truth of this assertion. And there are very few who, if asked their real opinion, and if they could give it behind closed doors, would not devoutly wish that the clock could be turned back 40 years, so that large-scale Muslim migration into France had never been permitted.
Such large-scale migration began with the Harkis at the end of the Algerian War; these were the local Arabs and Berbers who had fought on the side of the French, and who were rescued from murderous retribution by being allowed to settle in France in the early 1960s. Then came the boom years, all over Europe. Everywhere Muslims were allowed in to work. In France, they came from North Africa -- the maghrebins. At first men came alone to work. Then, because of their antisocial -- their criminal -- behavior, Giscard d'Estaing accepted the argument that if only they had their families with them, they would quiet down. So families were allowed to join the men. But how many wives came, and how many children came, or were born in France itself, was not something that Giscard d'Estaing had thought much about.

For a while, the numbers were small, and the Islam that remained undeclared in the mental baggage was never completely unpacked. The first generation of immigrants consisted of those eager to leave the hell of the Muslim countries from which they came. They did not quite so easily create those all-Arab or all-Muslim communities, no-go for the Infidels, that required certain numbers, and more than numbers, the attitude to take on the Infidel authorities. When mosques and madrasas were built, often with money supplied by Arabs from abroad, when a whole network of Arabic-language radio and television stations were established, and are now supplemented by satellite television, this made it easier to create a self-contained Muslim environment, naturally hostile to the Infidels who, in the case of this circumambient incidental France, were the incidental French. Now millions of Muslims can be geographically in France, but not of France. And they do not want to be "of France" because France is currently run by Infidels. Its laws, its customs, its manners, are those of the Infidels. This is not right. This is contra naturam. The world ultimately belongs to Allah, and therefore to those, and those only, who accept the message of the Prophet. All others are usurpers, and eventually will be removed from power -- they are merely temporarily powerful, in Europe in what is still Dar al-Harb. It will not require military conquest from without: Da'wa and demographic conquest from within will eventually allow Islam to dominate, and Muslims to rule. It is only right, it is only just.

Nowadays, of course, there is no such need for such unskilled workers, inculcated with hostility toward the French authorities, toward the authority of the Infidel nation-state and toward its Infidel people. The aggression and hostility, the indifference to study, the belief that Infidels should support them (which is more rooted a belief than the mere desire, in any situation where benefits can be obtained, of some recipients to exploit whatever is there to be exploited). Inshallah-fatalism and sheer unwillingness to work (what Saudis, what Kuwaitis, what rich members of the Emirates put in more than 2 taxing hours a day?) explain the miserable performance of Arab and Muslim oil states, the states and peoples that have been the beneficiaries of the largest transfer of wealth in human history -- some $10 trillion since 1973 -- and yet have failed in every case to create modern economies (the Shopping Mall that is Dubai does not count), but instead rely on foreign wage-slaves for almost everything. And the same inshallah-fatalism and the same conviction that Infidels have a duty to support Muslims, and that what is infuriating is not Muslim "poverty" so much as is the failure of Muslims as yet to assume their rightful place, as Islam insists, as those who should dominate, should possess the power and wealth even of, or perhaps especially of, the countries still being run by Infidels. The integration of all others, including black but non-Muslim Africans and immigrants from the Caribbean, and once-impoverished Vietnamese and Chinese immigrants, undercuts the insistence that Muslim economic underperformance is the result of French indifference. It is hard to integrate people whose attitude is one of inculcated hostility, and a sneering theoretical superiority (as Muslims) to their Infidel surroundings that, of course, makes their fury at having to learn or mimic or yield to Infidel laws and manners and ways even more maddening. Why should Muslims, those who by right should be ruling, have to yield or adjust in any way to Infidels, wherever those Infidels may be? And even the most successful, most seemingly integrated, among the Muslim immigrants turn out, when one examines their views, to reflect attitudes that suggest that many or most of them continue to owe their allegiance to the umma al-islamiyya, the Community of Believers, and not to their fellow Infidel citizens. Surely the failure of Muslim states to create economies from the most fabulous unearned wealth in history tells us someting about inshallah-fatalism, lack of industry, lack of motivation.
Surely the failure of Muslims not only in France, but everywhere in Western Europe where the welfare state offers means of support, to perform even close to the level of all other immigrant groups, should suggest that the problem lies in Islam itself, its tenets, and the attitudes and atmospherics it naturally gives rise to. This is what Sarkozy and others, seen as comparatively resolute(and compared to that former Howard Johnson's soda jerk, Chirac, or the comical D. de V., who would not seem resolute?) are unable to see, unable even to discuss: what it is about Islam that explains the behavior, the performance, the attitudes of Muslims not only in France, but everwhere in the Bilad al-kufr, the Lands of the Infidels.

For 1350 years the Jizyah demanded of non-Muslims supported the Muslim state; slaves seized from various Infidel populations were also a source of labor, of wealth, of soldiers. Even today, if one looks closely, one can see under the surface of things a disguised "jizyah" -- that is, a payment forcibly extracted from the Infidels for the benefit of Muslims. In Malaysia, where the population is half-Muslim, it is the non-Muslim Chinese and Indians who are forced to share the fruits of their industry and entrepreneurial activity with the less successful Muslim Malays. This "Bumiputra" system, whereby Muslims must be brought into all non-Muslim enterprises, is one example of the disguised jizyah. So to are the many billions in foreign aid from Infidel countries that is lavished upon all those Araband Muslim states that happen not to possess oil wealth. No matter how hostile these recipients remain, or how even more hostile they become, they continue to receive such aid because the Infidel donors are terrified of what might happen if they cut off such aid. But they haven't thought it through. What, after all, would Egypt, that center of anti-Americanism and antisemitism, do to the United States that it is not already doing, if the $60 billion sent so far were not to be added to by the American taxpayers? What would or could the "Palestinian" Authority do? What could Pakistan, whose national hero is the sinister Dr. A. Q. Khan, do if the Americans ceased to supply them with debt relief, favorable trade treatment, and military equipment at concessionary prices?

In the countries conquered by Muslims, non-Muslims could live and even practice their religion so long as they fulfilled a number of onerous conditions, including payment of the Jizyah. If they ceased to pay, they lost all their rights, and became fair game. Something like that attitude appears to have affected the Infidel countries of Western Europe and North America, in their fear of cutting off all such aid to those who, as a matter of belief, must regard them with permanent hostility, and worse.

Today, in France, there is no attempt as yet to shut off all sources of future Muslim population growth, for fear of offending the North African states that may, as members of the Francophone nations, offer a little boost to French pride, but otherwise are an economic, diplomatic, and political drag, and ultimately menace, to France. Should from now on the French ever need outside workers again, they must never again go to the Maghreb for such workers. The real cost of the maghrebins, if properly internalized, is too high. Instead, should workers be needed, they can be imported from Eastern Europe or Russia, or China or the Philippines or Latin America. And with black African Christians, or Caribbean blacks, the French experience has been clear: people with the blackest skins, if not Muslim, are able to integrate into French society without difficulty, while the Arabs and Muslims, no matter how light their skin, are far more difficult to mold into loyal citizens of France. If workers are now readily aviailable from non-Muslim countries to meet any new needs, this will make it easier for the French government to now repatriate all those Muslims who have not yet attained citizenship. They have no moral or other claim to French citizenship. Their presence is, for those who see clearly, a present and a growing future threat to France and to its non-Muslim population. Why should that population be forced, for an abstraction, to endure a threat that can only grow? The real price of the Muslim immigrants in France -- the price paid in social peace, the price paid in monitoring their mosques, their madrasas, their movements, the price paid in supporting their deliberately gigantic families, the price paid in repairing or replacing what they destroy or torch to teach the "French a lesson" -- that price far outweights any imaginary advantage to France and French foreign policy in the Arab countries. The French still continue to pay the same market price for oil and gas that everyone else, even the United States, has to pay. But that, of course, is not something that those who have as individuals been the recipients of favors, of business contracts, of bribes, as "recyclers of petrodollars," wish the French public to know about.

The French do not in any way need the goodwill of any Arab or Muslim state. There is nothing that the Maghreb supplies that cnanot be supplied elsewhere, even if Tunisian dates are considered preferable to those from California. It is possible to diminish the air and boat traffic between one "rive" or bank of the Mediterranean and the other "rive" so that the vast illegal migration will be brought under control or stopped altogether, even as illegal immigrants, or all those deemed more likely to constitute a security threat are, as a first step, sent back to their countries of origin. And since France's economy is now static, the more money that is needed to insure the social peace of those whose inshallah-fatalism and attitude that not the world, but the world of Infidels -- the very people whom their belief-system teaches them to hate -- owes them a living, the more that will have to come from the pockets of those same deplorable Infidels. And the Muslim presence in the state schools is now cause for permanent disruption of ministerial curricula (we won't read Voltaire, or Racine; we won't study the Holocaust or French history), and of classroom and schoolyard discipline. And that, in turn, causes the same French taxpayers to remove their children from public schools, and have to endure the added expense of private schools. And that, in turn, will make the native French non-Muslims, who themselves may have had to endure the aggression and violence of Muslim classmates, will in their own life-plans factor in the new cost of raising children in France, which rises as the need for private schools rises. And that, in turn, may cause the French non-Muslim birth rate to plunge even more. And so the Muslim proportion of the population rises, not only because of the large Muslim families, but because the expense of those families on the state, and effect on French public schools, necessarily act to shrink further the non-Muslim proportion of the population.

The French, the well-connected and carefully schooled rulers, and the ruled, both for a long time remained carefully uninterested in what Islam teaches, or what arises naturally from the tenets of Islam, to form what might be called the attitudes and atmospherics of a Muslim community. And then there is the matter of personal gain, which has caused so many to forget other allegiances in the rush to recycle petrodollars for their own benefit and that of their friends, their circle, those like them. Chirac over many years has been the recipient of many favors from various Arab tycoons and tyrants, including the late Rafik Hariri, who brought him nice presents and remembered him in other ways, and the soon-to-be-late Saddam Hussein. Rumors of a Parisian version of the Kniphausen Hawk, a jewel-encrusted falcon, one of only two commissioned by some Arabs, made by some master craftsmen (perhaps Cartier knows something about this) with one of them delivered to a French contractor with extensive interests in the Middle East, and the other, it is said, to Jacques Chirac himself (this would have been about 25 years ago), might help explain Chirac's behavior. His rumored recreations must run into money. As for the preening poseur and poetaster Dominique de Villepin, to date the funniest part of his routine is when he reads a speech in Cairo or Damascus or somewhere else in an Arab country, and in attempting to make the appropriate allusion, somehow mixes up the great Persian poet Hafiz with the "Palestinian" propagandist Mahmoud Darwish, and then just for ecumenical fun, throws in Maimonides. He, D. de V., may see himself as a blend of Chateaubriand, Talleyrand, Malraux, and most likely St.-John Perse. Others will think of Sacha Guitry at his silliest. As for as these statesmen’s performance over the last few days -- one suspects Annette Funicello could have done better.

Even Nicolas Sarkozy, who by comparison with Chirac and D. de V., appears to be a giant in the earth, has not yet gone far enough in his own understanding of Islam. Neither he nor others in his camp understand as yet the immutability of the canonical Islamic texts (so that no "reformation" of Islam is possible), nor have they realized that Infidels have no way to detect the real "moderate" from the feigning one. They do not understand that even the "moderate" Muslim, precisely because of his outward affability and seeming reasonableness, may help promote the Jihad by confusing Infidels, or delaying their own thorough comprehension of the matter. They do not understand, finally, that any "moderate" can metamorphose at any time in the future, for any reason, into an "immoderate" Muslim -- or for that matter, have children or grandchildren who will, out of all sorts of impulses, reasons, or setbacks, revert to the real, full-bodied Islam that remains a permanent menace to world civilization.

Sarkozy continues to speak as if he still believes in government-funded mosques instead of mosques that get no government funding, and are not permitted to get Saudi or other outside funding, and that are strictly monitored and closed if found to contain false papers, explosives, and hate-Infidel propaganda, or to preach hatred of the Infidels. And what is Islam without the strict division of the world between Believer and Infidel, and the hostility, or even murderous hatred, the former must necessarily have for the latter?

And yet for all his ignorance one must be grateful for Sarkozy. He gave Tariq Ramadan a television thrashing, and he is the only one who may help to save France. He, and such writers and journalists as Anne-Marie Delcambre, and Jean-Louis Brugiere, and Alexandre del Valle, and Yvan Rioufol, and Bat Ye'or, and a handful of others.

There is no one currently in politics, save possibly for the unacceptable Le Pen and Megret, who dares to articulate the problem. Everyone is waiting. Who will do it? Who will admit that the French establishment, the French elites enjoying their lunches at Arpege, have done terrible things to France and to the people of France, in their immigration policy, in their Euro-Arab Dialogue, in their mad pursuit of an impossible identity of interest between "les deux rives" of the Mediterranean?

In the 1930s, in direct violation of the Treaty of Versailles, Hitler reoccupied the Rhineland. The French army at the time was the equal of the German army, and had it taken a stand, had it marched, things later might have been headed off, and the world had been different. But all sorts of things had happened. A particularly gifted French minister, who took Hitler's measure early, had been assassinated in 1934 when an attempt was made on the life of the Serbian king. The government of Leon Blum was under constant attack from the right; even the Assemblee Nationale had been attacked by cagoulards. Strong measures were not to be taken.

It is now time to wake up, and no army of occupation will march in to arouse citizens to their duty. The whole thing is different, insidious, slow, and there is always at the ready some slightly plausible explanation or justification that allows for temporizing -- until it is too late. During that other Occupation, the German one, the more obvious one, employees of the Musee de l'homme at Trocadero, many of them immigrants, proved themselves ready to die for France, instead of working to destroy it. There is a plaque to Boris Vilde and other Russian Jewish immigrants, morts pour la France, somewhere at Trocadero -- unless the Muslim rioters and vandals have torn it down. There are those who can become French, despite everything that is done to them, and those who cannot become French, despite everything that is done for them.

And now France itself appears to be slowly coming unhinged. Voila, deux-rivistes of the world. The riots, the arson and other attacks all over France are the world you have made. There it is, messieurs et mesdames, voila la France out of its depth, and in too deep. But who needs La Fontaine, or the pride of France, the dictee, as long as the oil flows, the petrodollars are recycled to the right swine, and everyone continues to bear burnt offerings -- cars, houses, schools, a civilization -- to the untouchable and implacable Idols of the Age, those Articles of Faith about tolerance, diversity, what is thinkable and what "unthinkable," which were only creations of fallible humans in the first place.

Satisfied?"

Posted by: Hugh at May 7, 2007 5:17 PM

Templar,

Thanks the confort but I really don't see it that way. To find "great hope" in the words you quote, you have to believe them. If you believe them, why not also take at face value the conciliatory comments? And inversely... If you think part of the speech is nothing but nice words, why believe in the rest?

Sorry to be such a doubtful Thomas. But knowing that Sarkozy has also, in the past, promoted institutions like UOIF and a stupid concept such as "l'Islam de France" (I've learned enough not to believe anything of this bullshit islam/islamism difference anymore, and I don't see how he can!), I'm skeptic.

I'm going to say something terrible, but I almost hope that the 700-or-so-many cars burned last night are only a beginning and that the banlieues will riot again. Then he'll have to do something, and we will see if the mildness of 2005 was really Chirac's choice or not.

Anyway. We sure all live under the famous chinese curse, "May you live in interesting times"! ;-)

Posted by: pistache at May 7, 2007 5:24 PM

Sebastien -- thank you for the information about P. de V.

Pistache -- thank you for the relevant disturbing outreach sentimentality from Sarkozy. It may be nothing at all, or a hint of deux-rivisme to come.

La mer blanche du midi, indeed. If only it were only that. The civilizational abyss, between Islam and all that is non-Islam, is deeper and wider than any merely geographical feature, whether inland sea or ocean, whether hill or Himalayas.

Posted by: Hugh at May 7, 2007 5:24 PM

Sebastien:

"If 98 doctors tell me that my son is sick and needs treatment, but 2 others tell me that he's not sick, I'm going to go with what the 98 say and have him treated"

This quote (perhaps not verbatim, but close enough) is the analogy in relation to climate change policy not of some raving socialist but of California governor Arnold Schwartzeneger. The near unanimous consensus in the international scientific community is that climate change is underway, that it will bring with it grave, even disastrous, consequences, and that it is caused by greenhouse gasses released into the atmosphere
by human activity over the last 150 years in connection with industrialization and its associated movements.

The U.S. government is doing neither its people, nor its leadership in the world any favours by continuing to bury its head in the sand over global warming. To the contrary, America's ongoing dependence on fossil fuels, which makes it a client of corrupt Islamic Arab oil states, is the financial root of the current Jihadist war against the West. End the fossil fuel culture, of which the U.S. is the largest member state, and you will cripple the Arab terror threat once and for all. Without oil, there is no way the Saudis or the Iranians will be able to continue to finance Jihad terror around the world, including the radical mosques in your own country and the big-mouthed imams shouting "Death to America".

Acknowledging, and fighting, climate change, is a matter of national security for the U.S. (n more ways than one).

Sarkozy may have a lot to learn (as do we all), but so do you.

Posted by: templar at May 7, 2007 5:32 PM

Thanks for this text, Hugh. It was spot on in 2005, it is still now.

I understand that hope is great now - because we need hope. Only... only the only feeling I get nowadays, when speaking with friends and colleagues, is that they prefer to live like ostriches, not seeing too many of the troubles or not wanting to really think about it, and grabbing any hope they can from the politics - picking the nice words, not listening to the troublesome ones.

Sorry. I'm gloomy, I'll stop here - must be the effect of last WE: on the same day, I discovered this story about this church in Sartrouville (close to Paris) which will be built without bells, so as "not to provoke the mainly muslim neighborhood", I heard Sarko's speech, and - most importantly - I found that the part of the tasty irish beef meat in the store close to my home has been replaced on the shelves by halal meat... Grrr.

Posted by: pistache at May 7, 2007 5:37 PM

Pistache:

You make a good point. But I'm not saying don't believe the words you posted. I only mean that now that he's in office (or will be shortly) lets wait and see what happens. Certainly we can be grateful that his rival didn't win. Also, Sarkozy certainly has the expectations of his supporters weighing on him. This should help to keep him honest. We can be pretty certain that if he fails to keep them, and if France suffers accordingly, there will be a price to pay, and perhaps the s*** will really hit the fan in a few years. Either way, something is eventually going to give.

Like I said at the time of Benedict's trip to Turkey in response to those who were quick to read the worst into Benedict's words (without, it seemed to me, taking into account all of the circumstances), the West, for the sake of its own morale, should not be too quick to discredit the leaders that it does have in its cause, although it can (and should) remind them of their promises and poke and prod them if necesary to keep them.
It's just the day after the election, and I don't see that there can be any harm at this point in hoping that something has changed for the better if Europe because of it.

AS for the 700 cars, I know exactly what you mean and I have to admit I feel the same way. That'll put pressure on Sarkozy to hold the line. There's something to be said for that Chinese curse.

Well, I hope that's helpful. I see Hugh has posted something on this so I'm going to spend some time reading his thoughts on the matter before I say any more. LOL - Maybe he'll change my mind - wouldn't be the first time!

Posted by: templar at May 7, 2007 5:47 PM

O.T. Templar I am not convinced by the alarmism surrounding global warming. I will of course support anybody who wants to reduce dependency on arab foreign oil.

Back on topic, Sarkozy is incredibly ambiguous. He has promised to work towards a Eurabian Union:

"I want to tell them that the time has come to build together a Mediterranean union that will form a link between Europe and Africa. What was done for the union of Europe 60 years ago, we are going to do today for the union of the Mediterranean"

But without Turkey.

Who knows what's going on?

But when you hear his speeches, you really feel that there is hope. He has promised nothing but hard work and yet he got elected. And on the place de la Concorde last night, the only foreigners sharing thee celebrations was a large group of Belgians. All the 'youths' voted for the other candidate. So even if Sarkozy is ambiguous, his supporters are almost certainly not.

Posted by: Sebastien at May 7, 2007 6:13 PM

Darn it, Hugh, you make the longest posts :p

Posted by: Crusader at May 7, 2007 6:28 PM

"He has promised nothing but hard work and yet he got elected. And on the place de la Concorde last night, the only foreigners sharing thee celebrations was a large group of Belgians. All the 'youths' voted for the other candidate. So even if Sarkozy is ambiguous, his supporters are almost certainly not"

And that's what I'm really placing my hopes in, as well, Sebastien.

For what its worth, to the extent that the U.S. needs oil in the nearer term future, the Athabasca oil sands in Alberta can probably provide all you need, although its expensive to extract from the bitumen that its locked into and its production and use will likely continue to have hidden costs for both Canada and the U.S. that may make it more trouble than the development of energy alternatives. You can remain skeptical about that issue if you want to - the global warming thesis may be as impossible to prove categorically as it is to prove that the earth isn't flat to those who want to dig in their heals about it - but I'd say that it only makes moral (and practical) sense to err on the side of precautions favoring human health and sustainability of life on the planet according to what the best scientific consensus available to us tells us about those concerns. Besides that, this is a non-renewable resource that can't last forever anyway - almost certainly a few hundred years at most.

But in terms of ending U.S. reliance on Arab oil on geo-political grounds, Canada is one source that should be high on the U.S. trade agenda. Another that I'd point out would be Russia. Building a relationship with that country as an energy supplier could potentially help provide incentive for political and economic reform in that country and to cultivate it as another anti-Jihadist ally.

Posted by: templar at May 7, 2007 6:55 PM

templar-

I hear jihadis give off 3412 BTU's per hour of heat when stressed, so we can use them to replace that amount of fosssil fuels, per prisoner, when caught.

(And they're cleaner than ethanol, ultimately.)

Posted by: profitsbeard at May 7, 2007 7:08 PM

France:

As Fundamentalist Islam Spreads, so does Demand for Hymen Repair

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/05/07/france-as-fundamentalist-islam-spreads-so-does-demand-for-hymen-repair/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at May 7, 2007 7:43 PM

Profitsbeard:

Your plan has potential. But the 3412 BTU measurement sounds a little conservative to me. Given that these people have the flames of hell burning them up inside, they could do us a lot better than that.

As for clean, I'm not so sure. Burning pure, concentrated evil has to produce a lot of soot. We'll need awful big scrubbers to handle that.

Posted by: templar at May 7, 2007 8:42 PM

templar-

All I want left of the jihadis is a carbon footprint.

(Or two.)

I think the cost of "bigger scrubbers" for the Shaheed soot could come out of the steadily reducing security budget, since having fewer terrorists costs less to defend against.

It's a win-win situation.

Plug your hybrid into a jihadi.

Alternative energy, ho!

Posted by: profitsbeard at May 7, 2007 9:10 PM

Right on, ProfitsBeard!

Sounds like the answer we're looking for!

Posted by: templar at May 7, 2007 9:17 PM

"Satisfied?"

Posted by Hugh

(LOL) Okay, Hugh. You win.

(No one could top that)

Posted by: templar at May 7, 2007 9:44 PM

That ain't all he opposes:

When riots erupted in the predominantly Muslim slums around Paris in November 2005, Sarkozy called the youths who were ransacking stores and firebombing cars "scum," and said the area needed to be "cleaned out with a power hose."

Relentlessly attacked for those remarks, Sarkozy never retreated and never expressed regret. On the contrary, he still refers to his actions during the riots with pride.

Uh oh, French "youths"...you're about to receive a lesson in reality and humility.

Posted by: Prickzilla at May 8, 2007 12:33 AM

Hugh wrote: " Sarkozy continues to speak as if he still believes in government-funded mosques instead of mosques that get no government funding, and are not permitted to get Saudi or other outside funding, and that are strictly monitored and closed if found to contain false papers, explosives, and hate-Infidel propaganda, or to preach hatred of the Infidels. "

How true Hugh. The jury is still out with Sarkozy. It remains to be seen if he has the political strength and the spine to deal with hordes of unruly immigrant Muslims who want to turn France into an Islamic republic.

Government funded mosques sounds like a very bad idea to me regardless of the French resolve to bend and control it.

It is a little bit like an animal circus trainer taming a wild Grizley bear out in the wild.

It simply can't be done.

Islam can't be tamed.

On a brighter note, it is safe to say that things can't get much worse in France than it was during the last decade with J. Chirac.

Posted by: Johnathan at May 8, 2007 1:01 AM

I was very disappointed that Villiers got so few votes, only some 3%. He seems the real deal, leader of Mouvement Pour la France (MPF). He opposes the European Union and other "New World Order" schemes designed to erase national boundaries and destroy national sovereignty.

The French who voted for Sarkozy because of his tough stance on rioting "youths" don't seem to understand that this is only part of the threat. Violence or no violence, the demographic threat is looming. Being a member of the EU, means that if Muslims get citizenship of one EU country, they can easily go and live in another. When Turkey joins the European Union, it will probably seal our fate.

Posted by: Elephant at May 8, 2007 2:58 AM

De Villiers was my favourite but I knew that a sane man like him could not get much votes in an insane country that France has become in the last quater of a century(no offence, Sebastien and Pistache).

Posted by: Witch-king of Angmar at May 8, 2007 3:54 AM

"Sarkozy has drawn up a whirlwind agenda for his first 100 days in office and plans to put big reforms before parliament at an extraordinary session in July. One would make overtime pay tax-free to encourage people to work more. Another would put in place tougher sentencing for repeat offenders, and a third would toughen the criteria for immigrants trying to bring their families to France. "

.....I agree with tightening the immigration laws and I agree with tougher civil laws...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 8, 2007 10:54 AM

Sarkozy will be France's last chance. Hopefully he will be able to put through the changes he needs to do to save France.

Posted by: chucky at May 8, 2007 12:45 PM

From Sarkozy's Blairist speech quoted by Pistache:

"(...) I want to issue a call to all the people of the Mediterranean to tell them that it is in the Mediterranean that everything is going to be played out, that we have to overcome all kinds of hatred to pave the way for a great dream of peace and a great dream of civilization. I want to tell them that the time has come to build together a Mediterranean union that will form a link between Europe and Africa. What was done for the union of Europe 60 years ago, we are going to do today for the union of the Mediterranean. (...)".

The "grand rêve de paix" upon which this apparent Deux-Rivisme will be built is part of the tissue of what Voegelin called "la seconde réalité des idéologies" -- particularly in its latest philodoxic mutation and vulgarisation, Political Correctness.

Posted by: remote_control at May 8, 2007 4:15 PM

"Royal should be ashamed over her vote for me or there will be violence line."

To paraphrase Erich Segal (he wrote the novel Love Story), hey -- being a liberal** means NEVER HAVING TO SAY YOU'RE SORRY.

**as the term "liberal" is used in the US (i.e., a multiculti, soft-on-crime bleeding-heart), she definitely is one, although she is N0T one in the sense that "liberal" is actually used in France (i.e., one who favors more freedom and less state control; ironically, there, Sarko, the more conservative of the two candidates, is considered the "liberal").

Posted by: RobRoy777 at May 9, 2007 12:16 PM