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Who cares about human rights if it will mean losing votes? "PvdA Tries to Muzzle Muslim Apostate," from NIS News, with thanks to Fjordman:
THE HAGUE, 05/06/07 - Labour (PvdA) has been trying to muzzle a young PvdA member who is fighting for the rights and safety of Muslim apostates. An internal memo shows that the party fears the campaign of Ehsan Jami will cause it electoral damage and enrage Muslims.Jami announced in May he was setting up a Committee for Ex-Muslims. The committee wants to break the taboo on lapsing from the Islamic faith. The 22 year old Jami, himself an apostate of Islam, says many Muslims do not dare to renounce Islam for fear of reprisals, including death.
Jami, who is a PvdA council member in the town of Leidschendam-Voorburg, will launch the committee officially in September with an international press conference. He says he has already had hundreds of e-mails from Muslims from throughout the world who support him. But his own PvdA is trying to muzzle him, it emerges from internal correspondence obtained by newspaper NRC Handelsblad.
'Progressive' filmmaker Eddy Terstall, who is active on behalf of the PvdA behind the scenes, spoke with Jami on behalf of the party. An e-mail in which he reported to PvdA MPs and ministers last week on this meeting leaked to NRC Handelsblad....
The e-mail reveals an attempt to manipulate Jami on 11 points. Terstal advised him to "choose his words more carefully" and take into account the fact that his message could go down badly with the PvdA's big immigrant following. Terstall concluded with the message that he is prepared to "guide" Jami further.
Jami is supported by philosopher and political commentator Afshin Ellian. NRC Handelsblad quoted MP Wolfsen as saying that Ellian has "a very anti-Islam agenda." But apart from Ellian, who is an Irani refugee, Jami is "almost exclusively surrounding himself with whites", which is unwise, Terstal's email states.
Terstall also revealed that Jami received hate mails from PvdA executives. He suggested that NRC Handelsblad had obtained these emails too. Because the content "exceeds legal boundaries" liable for criminal prosecution, he is "hoping" that the newspaper would not publicise the internal PvdA threats. NRC Handelsblad has not to date done so. The paper did yesterday publish Terstal's email in full (www.nrc.nl/redactie/binnenland/eddyterstall.pdf).
Terstall acknowledged in a reaction that his intervention was to some extend dubious, but necessary in the party's interests. "I do not want to rein in Jami's enthusiasm, but he must be effective. There are words that he uses that act like a red rag to a bull in the Muslim community, which already has little self-confidence." For other parties, "it is much easier for such a committee to be set up without compromise" because they have fewer Muslim voters.
Terstall also sent the e-mail to Jami himself. Jami said yesterday in NRC Handelsblad and in newspaper De Volkskrant that he is not surprised that his party is trying to 'guide' him. "It is typical of the PvdA. They do not seem to be able to deal well with this sort of question."
The Muslim community has little self-confidence? Really? So little that a campaign that asserts that people ought to be able to leave Islam without fearing for their lives will offend them? Wouldn't they demonstrate much more self-confidence by publicly asserting that Islam is not threatened by people who leave it, and that they may live in peace?
Posted by Robert at June 5, 2007 10:31 AM
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...increasing numbers of people wanting to leave Islam clearly shows many Muslims recognize that Islam is not the answer....the treatment of the same people clearly shows Islam rules by fear and is terrified of its members leaving....If enough people leave Islam (and they will) ...Islam dies...
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at June 5, 2007 11:18 AM
Hmm, it sounds like Mr. Jami's ideas might not be 'progressive' enough for the PvdA party, although I'm not so certain that I know what 'progressive' means any more.
Posted by: Abu Allah at June 5, 2007 11:24 AM
Muslims have learned that if you flood an area with your own voters , you can elect whom you choose....(usually not the best person for the job)....It happened here in Minnesota, USA....
Posted by: exsgtbrown at June 5, 2007 11:47 AM
More proof that the Left finds common cause with Islam. The Left does not reject all religion, only Judeo-Christian religion. Their hatred of Judeo-Christian principles and traditions blinds them to the hypocracy of their alliance with the haters of infidels.
I don't mind people being idiots, but I sure as hell don't relish the probability that their idiocy will get me killed.
Posted by: texan
at June 5, 2007 11:52 AM
UAC founder Jesse Petrilla's trip to Kosovo and Bosnia
http://www.unitedamericancommittee.org/afteraction_kosovo.htm
Posted by: adobe at June 5, 2007 12:35 PM
Texan, you got it right!
Adobe, thanks for the link.
at June 5, 2007 12:47 PM
"...his message could go down badly with the PvdA's big immigrant following..."
What message DOESN'T go down badly with this particular immigrant following? Except possibly "Here's more free money, and remember we're very, very afraid of you and your peaceful religion".
Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at June 5, 2007 12:50 PM
How do you rephrase mohammed's words:
"Whoever changes his religion, kill him".
So they sound more friendly? Turn it into an anagram or what?
Posted by: Celsius at June 5, 2007 12:55 PM
no problem SerbInfidel. I am glad that Serbia is standing firm against the onslaught it is upagainst.
Posted by: adobe at June 5, 2007 1:09 PM
No surprises there. After all, this Dutch Labor party is like any other labor party---a bunch of corrupt, globalist, marxist traitors who want to erase all ethnic, class and religious differences. The history of the Left in almost every nation is that of unabashed treason, and the natural alliance between Islam and the Left in the previous and present centuries has been well-documented.
Posted by: US_infidel at June 5, 2007 1:17 PM
Terstall acknowledged in a reaction that his intervention was to some extend dubious, but necessary in the party's interests. "I do not want to rein in Jami's enthusiasm, but he must be effective. There are words that he uses that act like a red rag to a bull in the Muslim community, which already has little self-confidence."
-- from a posting above
Terstall claims "I do not want to rein in Jami's enthusiasm" which is a peculiar way to describe his attempt to prevent that "enthusiasm" from being expressed in any practical way. Apparently Jami is supposed to be "enthusiastic" but not to do a thing that such "enthusiasm" would naturally prompt.
I always liked the Catalogue of Ships in "The Iliad." I always liked their names. I like to go down to the sea and look at the ships, or the yachts, or the sailboats, and see the names given to them --the sailboating sentimentalist's "I Remember Mama," the financial finagler's yacht "Puts and Calls," the punning hedge-fund operator with his larger yacht called "Black Shoals," and so on.
And the Ship of State, our ship of fools, with Captain Queeg as the Great Helmsman, has been called here more than once the S. S. Narrenschiff on some occasions, and the S. S. Naufragium on others.
But this dismal tale, an attempt to shut up a brave man who was born into Islam and, in the safety of the Netherlands, mentally fought his way out, and who could do much to help appeal to others similarly situated and questioning, is instead being shut up by this Terstall, this political apparatchik.
Well, I have a few names I'd like to suggest might be appropriate for the Dutch ship of state, should Terstall and his conniving and traitorous party ever come to power and become that ship's captain, that ship's dismal crew. I'd call that Dutch Ship of State the "S. S. Curb Your Enthusiasm." Or I'd call it, more simply, "The Lying Dutchman."
Which do you think is more apt?
Posted by: Hugh at June 5, 2007 1:28 PM
I had to go lie down after that last one.
Posted by: Marwan'sDaughter at June 5, 2007 1:36 PM
Hugh, "The Lying Dutchman" sounds about right for me :)
Posted by: SerbInfidel at June 5, 2007 1:49 PM
Theo van Gogh ......'nuff said
Posted by: MP at June 5, 2007 3:35 PM
I like "The Dying Dutchman"
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at June 5, 2007 3:54 PM
..."The Sea Dhimmi"?...
Posted by: exsgtbrown at June 5, 2007 4:02 PM
Adobe, thanks for the link. The link within the link is also priceless as an instrument for showing the true face of islam. Pig shit on the prophet of this horror.
Posted by: TexasInfidel at June 5, 2007 4:17 PM
Celsius asked how do we change:
"Whoever changes his religion, kill him".
The answer is to claim the quote itself was a change from what Mohammed really said. Perhaps one can convince Mohammedeans that Mohammed actually said:
Whoever changes his religion, kill him (with kindness so he will return).
Posted by: David England at June 5, 2007 4:25 PM
Not long ago they reigned in Ayaan Ali Hirsi's 'enthusiasm'- she left and she was gone...
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at June 5, 2007 5:16 PM
Ah, the latest from Ayaan Ali Hirsi here:
'Abolish Muslim Schools in Australia'
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/06/05/ayaan-hirsi-ali-abolish-muslim-schools-in-australia/
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at June 5, 2007 5:36 PM
Why is it always up to us infidels to "curb" our emotions and feelings, while the Muslims burn down the town and shoot priests at the drop of a hat?
Best wishes to Jami in his difficult work.
Posted by: special_guest at June 5, 2007 6:09 PM
Let's get together and keep us from being muzzled!
http://www.meforum.org/legal-project.php
Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at June 5, 2007 6:32 PM
But apart from Ellian, who is an Irani refugee, Jami is "almost exclusively surrounding himself with whites", which is unwise, Terstal's email states.
from the article above.
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By every definition Iranians are also white. What Terstal actually means by "white" are people who uphold the values of European civilization. In other words, Jami associates with Christians, Jews, and non-believers. How dare he?
Posted by: Provoslavni at June 5, 2007 6:43 PM
This is the writing on the wall. We can probably expect to see more politicians do this kind of thing just to get the muslim votes (we all know that politicians will sell their own mothers out for votes)...until the muslims populations get bigger and more muslims run for office-then the muslims will simply tell the non-muslim politicians to push on and they will vote for the muslim polticians...scary, isn't it?
Posted by: mrockroll1969 at June 5, 2007 10:27 PM
Afshin Ellian was one of the signers of the St. Petersburg Declaration and, by good report, very intelligent and amusing.
Posted by: Hugh at June 6, 2007 2:46 PM
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