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Read this one sitting down. "Carter blasts US policy on Palestinians," by Shawn Pogatchnik for the Associated Press:
DUBLIN, Ireland - Former President Jimmy Carter accused the U.S., Israel and the European Union on Tuesday of seeking to divide the Palestinian people by reopening aid to President Mahmoud Abbas' new government in the West Bank while denying the same to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.
Carter, a Nobel Peace Prize winner who was addressing a human rights conference in Ireland, also said the Bush administration's refusal to accept Hamas' 2006 election victory was "criminal."
Carter said Hamas, besides winning a fair and democratic mandate that should have entitled it to lead the Palestinian government, had proven itself to be far more organized in its political and military showdowns with Abbas' moderate Fatah movement.
Hamas fighters routed Fatah in their violent takeover of the Gaza Strip last week. The split prompted Abbas to dissolve the power-sharing government with his rivals in Hamas and set up a Fatah-led administration to govern the West Bank.
Carter said the consensus of the U.S., Israel and the EU to start funneling aid to Abbas' new government in the West Bank but continue blocking Hamas in the Gaza Strip represented an "effort to divide Palestinians into two peoples."
"All efforts of the international community should be to reconcile the two, but there's no effort from the outside to bring the two together," he said.
[...]
During his speech to Ireland's annual Forum on Human Rights, the 83-year-old former president said monitors from his Carter Center observed the 2006 election that Hamas won. He said the vote was "orderly and fair" and Hamas triumphed, in part, because it was "shrewd in selecting candidates," whereas a divided, corrupt Fatah ran multiple candidates for single seats.
Far from encouraging Hamas' move into parliamentary politics, Carter said the U.S. and Israel, with European Union acquiescence, sought to subvert the outcome by shunning Hamas and helping Abbas to keep the reins of political and military power.
"That action was criminal," he said in a news conference after his speech.
"The United States and Israel decided to punish all the people in Palestine and did everything they could to deter a compromise between Hamas and Fatah," he said.
Carter said the U.S. and others supplied the Fatah-controlled security forces in Gaza with vastly superior weaponry in hopes they would "conquer Hamas in Gaza" — but Hamas routed Fatah in the fighting last week because of its "superior skills and discipline."
Posted by Marisol at June 20, 2007 3:53 PM
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Does Carter have much time left? how old is he ?
soon, very soon i hope.
He's a danger to the West
Posted by: MoBlows
at June 20, 2007 4:14 PM
Methinks it is time to put Dhimmi Carter out to pasture
Posted by: awake
at June 20, 2007 4:17 PM
Carter is a moral degenerate and a traitor. A poisonous mixture of malice and senile dementia. Truly horrid.
Posted by: johndoe
at June 20, 2007 4:19 PM
He is an unfathomable disgrace.
Posted by: KAOSKTRL
at June 20, 2007 4:20 PM
Unfathomable? His wrinkles are the deepest thing about this man who'll smile and smile and be a villain.
Posted by: max
at June 20, 2007 4:31 PM
Carter is a true American embarrassment along with Billyboyboob Clinton. He, and Arafat, have made Nobel peace prizes a pure joke.
Posted by: R_not
at June 20, 2007 4:36 PM
I was sitting down when I read ex-Pres. Carter's words. I was sitting on the pot.
I put good use to his printed words as I stood up too.
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses
at June 20, 2007 4:37 PM
Words are good enough for Carter , not deeds , words. as long as they tell him what they think he wants to hear , like wanting Peace then he takes the bait. come to think of it that could be said for a lot of bleeding heart Westerners. we never pitied the Nazis and we didn't have pity for Communism or what Stalin did , so how the hell is Islam getting away with this crap?
Posted by: MoBlows
at June 20, 2007 4:52 PM
Way off topic here.
A while back someone posted a wonderful piece about muslims with the refrain..."I don't care."
I can't remeber who it was (sorry) or even if it was on a JW thread or a DW thread, but I would really like to get a copy of it. I'm sure many of you were smarter than I was, and saved a copy. Could someone - hopefully the original author - please repost it ? Thanks.
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi
at June 20, 2007 5:01 PM
""That action was criminal," he said in a news conference after his speech.""
.....pardoning VIETNAM draft dodgers who had fled to Canada to avoid serving their country was Criminal.....
.....the Dhimmie Carter brokered peace accords were Criminal....
.....Dhimmi Carters love affair with terrorists is Criminal....
at June 20, 2007 5:02 PM
oh yeah...and Dhimmi Carters handling of the Iranian Embassy takeover was really criminal!!..
Posted by: exsgtbrown
at June 20, 2007 5:04 PM
Hey Jew-Hater Jimmy:
You're a disgrace!
Is this what you support, you pathetic presidential piece of caca:
Article Seven - THE UNIVERSALITY OF HAMAS
Hamas is one of the links in the Chain of Jihad in the confrontation with the Zionist invasion. It links up with the setting out of the Martyr Izz a-din al-Qassam and his brothers in the Muslim Brotherhood who fought the Holy War in 1936; it further relates to another link of the Palestinian Jihad and the Jihad and efforts of the Muslim Brothers during the 1948 War, and to the Jihad operations of the Muslim Brothers in 1968 and thereafter...
...Hamas has been looking forward to implement Allah's promise whatever time it might take. The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said:
"The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!
Cited by Bukhari and Muslim"
http://christianactionforisrael.org/isreport/hamas.html
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2
at June 20, 2007 5:10 PM
Poor Mr. Carter is confusing "process" ("It was a fair election and Hamas won", and "Hamas was shrewd in the candidates it supported") with "policy" (Fatah agrees to consider the possibility of not calling for Israel's destruction; while Hamas absolutely refuses to accept Israel's right to exist.) The fact that both groups ignore what they're doing to the "poor Palestinian people", and are populated by thugs and scumbags doesn't show up on his radar at all. I suppose he gets "policy letters" (propaganda / PR) along with the Saudi contributions to his library; he must really be taking the Wahabbi point of view to heart...
Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse
at June 20, 2007 5:19 PM
This new armored personnel carrier’s got an Infidel motor, a four hundred and forty-cubic-inch plant. Infidel springs. Infidel shocks. Infidel suspension. Infidel tires. It was a model made before catalytic converters, so it runs on regular gas. What do you say? Is it the new Jihadmobile or what?
Hamas didn’t win because of superior skills and discipline.
Hamas won because they were on a Mission from God.
at June 20, 2007 5:30 PM
carter is half right - we should not be supporting either Hamas or Fatah with any material or intelligence resources. Both are terrorist organizations, right President Bush? Err... President Bush..??
Posted by: MP
at June 20, 2007 5:34 PM
ImNoDhimmi
Here you go, I saved it:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016934.php#comments
Here is the opinion of one soccer mom, circulating across cyberspace:
Written by a housewife from New Jersey and sounds like it! This is one upset lady.
"Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001 ? Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from our nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania ? Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't t hey?
And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated" when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?...Well, I don't. I don't care at all.
I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.
I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia .
I'll care when these thugs tell the world they is sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.
I'll care when the cowardly so-called "insurgents" in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion b y hiding in mosques.
I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.
I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.
In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care.
When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have been humiliated in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest assured: I don't care.
When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank: I don't care.
When I hear that a prisoner, wh o was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed "special" food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being "mishandled," you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts: I don't care.
And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled "Koran" and other times "Quran." Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and -you guessed it -I don't care ! ! ! ! !
If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your e-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behavior!
If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great country! And may I add:
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem." Ronald Reagan
I have another quote that I would like to add AND.......I hope you forward all this
"If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under." also by... Ronald Reagan
One last thought for the day:
In case we find ourselves starting to believe all the anti-American sentiment and negativity, we should remember England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair's words during a recent interview. When asked by one of his Parliament members why he believes so much in America , he said:
"A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at the numbers; how many want in... And how many want out."Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
1. Jesus Christ
2. The American G. I.
One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON, AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET BOTH OF THEM. AMEN!
at June 20, 2007 5:51 PM
Jimmy crack corn
http://rightwingguymn.blogspot.com/2007/01/letter-to-islam.html
at June 20, 2007 5:53 PM
Got this via email.It sums Carter up perfectly!
Brian De Palma - Movie Director says: on former President Jimmy Carter's book bashing Israel
"There are only two motives that audiences really buy: sex and money. That wise advice has stayed with me and served me well throughout my screen writing career.
Which brings us to former President Jimmy Carter. Everyone is running around trying to figure why he's spending so much time bashing Israel. In a world filled with so much horror -- the endless and brutal civil wars in Liberia, and Sierra Leone, the daily and quite casual slaughters in Somalia, Zimbabwe, Congo, Chad, Haiti, and the genocide in Sudan -- let's face it, the list of failed states and murderous African and Islamic dictators is endless, so , why pick on Israel?
Well, to clear up the confusion, just cruise on over to the web site of the Carter Center and take a look at the list of donors who have contributed more than a million dollars. W hat a shock, what a rogues gallery: Prince Alaweed bin Talal, the Sultanate of Oman, Sultan Quobos bin Said al Said, The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Bakir M binLadin for the Saudi Bin Ladin Group, the Saudi Fund for Development, and the Government of the United Arab Emirates.
These are the very same people and states who have been financing jihad all over the globe and fomenting some of the most vicious anti-Jewish hatred the world has ever seen. As Jimmy Carter makes the rounds of the various mainstream media news shows I'm waiting for one honest reporter to ask the former President this simple question: "Mr. President, are you a paid agent of Arab jihadist governments?"
at June 20, 2007 5:54 PM
I agree with Carter that Hamas won "a fair and democratic mandate that should have entitled it to lead the Palestinian government".
I fail however to see their entitlement to have open borders with a country that they have sworn to destroy; to be ignored when they fire rockets over the border into that country; or to be showered with money by countries who they openly despise.
Posted by: Paul
at June 20, 2007 5:55 PM
His deep solicitude for "the Palestinian people" is not new. But it is not based on much more than his palpable dislike of those who are the main victims of that "Palestinian people" as the shock troops of the Lesser Jihad agains Israel -- the Jews of Israel.
Carter's complete lack of sympathy or even understanding of the and the asymmetry in aims might surprise some. Israel, after all, simply wishes to live, not destroy the twenty-two Arab Muslim states, and would like to concede to the local Arabs as much autonomy as it can, consistent with Israel's security, but the local Arabs have made that almost impossible. The Arabs want to eliminate Israel and the Slow Jihadists and Fast Jihadists differ only on such matters as tactics and timing. The asymmetry in population (350 million against 6 million Jews in Israel), and in resources (some ten trillion dollars in oil revenues for the Arabs and Muslims, as well as hundreds of billions, over the years, in the disguised Jizyah of foreign aid from America, Western Europe, and even, in the old days, from Eastern Europe and Russia, while Israel has, and only in recent decades, begun to receive American aid for which it has had to pay dearly in the concessions it has constantly been pressured to make by successive American admnistrations, not least at Camp David by Carter and Brzezinski). And Carter's lying -- that is what it is - in his latest book, about the history of Arab-Israeli negotiation, and his failure, even in the last two decades when he was free to begin to read about the history of Islamic conquests, about Jihad and the subjugation of non-Muslims, had all the time in the world to find out about Muslim attitudes, about Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb, had all the time in the world to discover why it is that the Arabs will never honor any of their treaties with Israel, had the time to read deeply in the history of the conflict, and in the history, and intent, of the Mandate for Palestine as set up by the League of Nations, had a chance to find out the demographic and cadastral history of the area under the Ottomans, and then during the Mandatory period, when Jews were kept out by the British at a time when they might have been saved from the Nazis, and illegal Arab immigration continued unchecked, drawn by the new economic opportunities created by the Zionist effort, throughout the Mandatory period.
He did none of these things, and never felt he had to. A classic, smiling, self-righteous antisemite, sure of himself, sure that he cannot possibly be accused of antisemitism because, you see, he deplores the Nazi concentration camps (that's a tough one) and furthermore, he knows, "in his heart," that he is "friend of Israel."
And now we see that he is also, even more deeply and much more convincingly, a "friend of Hamas" as he was, only yesterday, a friend of Fatah and Abbas and the spirit of his special friend, to whom he offered all kinds of unsolicited advice on how to present the "Palestinian case" more plausibly to American audiences -- wasnt' that something? -- Yassir Arafat.
Which circle of hell? Which bolgia?
at June 20, 2007 6:01 PM
For once, I actually agree with this whore-o-babylon and talking sewage heap on just these two points; it is wrong for us to take sides hamas v fatah, and it is wrong for us to supply arms to them.
Posted by: Infidel33
at June 20, 2007 6:02 PM
Carter is paid by the Saudis. They were the ones who bailed his failing peanut farm business decades ago. He is nothing but a senile Jew-hating useful idiot loyal to his Muslim sugar daddy.
Posted by: US_infidel
at June 20, 2007 6:15 PM
"That action was criminal," Professor Peanut of the Middle Eastern Department.
By what law, excuding Sharia?
Posted by: npabga
at June 20, 2007 6:35 PM
Actually, ImnoDhimmi - I also got that "I don't Care" piece via e-mail. The author is Pam Foster of Pamela Foster and Associates in Atlanta (not a housewife in New Jersey). Ms. Foster does interior design, since 1980.
Yes, it's good! A friend sent it to me.
Posted by: darcy
at June 20, 2007 7:23 PM
Hugh uses the word ‘anti-Semitic’. Jimmy Carter most likely came to dislike Jews because of his relationship with Hyman Rickover, the father of the nuclear navy. Rickover was a brilliant bastard. He built one of the world’s best organizations by totally dominating it with his overbearing personality. Rickover was more of a ‘total system’ than Islam.
Rickover dominated all aspects of Jimmy Carter’s life from his early twenties until his mid thirties. Carter had to work hundred-hour weeks during the half of his life when his submarine was in port. The rest of the time Carter was at sea. Rickover was probably the only Jew that Carter knew and was all-controlling. Carter evidently came to hate him.
Rickover was one of the most patriotic Americans of the 20th Century. History will look at Rickover as a giant and at Carter as a joke. Attached is a Rickover address given shortly after Carter assumed the office of President. It is one of the best articles I’ve ever read. It is called Thoughts on Man's Purpose in Life.
Posted by: pez
at June 20, 2007 7:55 PM
Darcy & ImnoDhimmi,
That "Jimmy crack corn" piece has been circulating the web since 2005.
I think I've seen it four times on JW in the last week.
Enough.
It was written by a columnist named Doug Patton. Check it out on Snopes.com
Almost ALL "patriotic" circulating emails are bogus. Weblore. Myths. Fake. Many are produced by leftists in order to make the right (aka patriots) look naive and foolish.
In fact, almost all emails you get that make you go "gosh!" are bogus.
Research is your friend.
Posted by: Charles Bogle
at June 20, 2007 8:50 PM
When Dhimmi Carter finally dies and gets his presidential funeral, will a representative from Hamas attend his funeral?
Posted by: Elric66
at June 20, 2007 9:18 PM
Carter antisemitism has been apparent for a long time. But now he's become the poster boy for dementia.Even the Bush White House has noted Carter's increasing irrelevance.
Posted by: Roxane
at June 20, 2007 9:32 PM
How much money is this old fart costing the American taxpayers to constantly travel around the world visiting assorted dictators? Secret Service and airlines aren't cheap.
Posted by: interestinconundrum
at June 20, 2007 9:54 PM
Does anybody want to make a wager that Carter has stopped being a Southern Baptist and secretly converted to Islam?
Posted by: non-redneck
at June 20, 2007 10:40 PM
"Hugh uses the word ‘anti-Semitic’"
-- from a posting above
No, I didn't. I used the word "antisemitic." The difference matters. Google "antisemitic" and "anti-Semitic" and "newenglishreview" for a discussion of the difference, and why "antisemitic" is preferable to "anti-Semitic."
Posted by: Hugh
at June 20, 2007 10:42 PM
I hear a hole is being dug in his front lawn on his peanut farm. I wonder if he could be moved in early.
I HATE LIBERALS!!!!
Posted by: lonewolf
at June 20, 2007 10:44 PM
Not content to be Jihad Watch's Dhimmi of the Year for 2006, Carter sets his eyes on Dhimmi of the Decade honors.
Posted by: Greek Fire
at June 20, 2007 10:45 PM
I stand corrected.
Paul Revere was, as the Japanese would say, a ‘National Human Treasure’. Like the people who run this web-site.
at June 20, 2007 11:34 PM
Hugh asks - which circle of Hell for Carter? Which bolgia (pit)?
Hard choice, mate: since Dante puts the Flatterers (with s**t pouring from their mouths) in one place, and the Treacherous in another.
All things considered, I'd assign Carter to the frozen lake right at the bottom, where the Traitors lie fixed in the ice like flies in amber.
at June 20, 2007 11:58 PM
It is de rigeur to repeat the following quote by Lillian Carter, Jimmah's momma, whenever her son is the topic of conversation:
“Sometimes when I look at all my children, I say to myself, "Lillian, you should have stayed a virgin."”
Posted by: Shy Guy
at June 21, 2007 12:43 AM
Alas, where is a were-rabbit when we need one.
Posted by: breezy55
at June 21, 2007 12:58 AM
If he did revert to Islam it mus have been a long time ago, maybe we will not know until they bury him, and we can see which way he is facing.
I believe he has reverted, and for obvious reasons does not want it to be known
http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2007/06/united-states-israel-and-european-union.html
Posted by: shiva
at June 21, 2007 1:01 AM
"Hey.....What are we gonna do about Grandpa??"
Posted by: Infidel One
at June 21, 2007 1:09 AM
I believe he has reverted, and for obvious reasons does not want it to be known.
Posted by: shiva at June 21, 2007 1:01 AM
No, he hasn't CONverted and please don't use "reverted" for "converted". That only supports the false islamic belief that we were all born muslim. I wasn't born muslim, were you?
Jimmy Carter is a Baptist and will die a Baptist. He just happens to be a very liberal Baptist and liberals always support the putative underdog, regardless of who is right and who is wrong. Jimmy Carter is one of many former and current political leaders who does not have a clue about islam. He knows that it is a religion centered around a god and muslims are so devout and faithful that they pray five times a day. He sees it the same way GWB sees it. What muslims pray for has never occurred to either of these men and probably never will. They project the benevolence of Christianity on islam, a common but egregious mistake.
I have loathed Jimmy Carter since he was the governor of Georgia but he is not a muslim and if he understood islam, he might have done many things differently. I'm not making excuses for him and I fervently hope that before he dies he has an epiphany so he can suffer for and regret his inexcusable ignorance and the devastating mistakes he made as a result of it.
at June 21, 2007 2:31 AM
Jimmy the Dhimmi is a totally ignorant fool ex-peanut farmer who should never have been made President of the USA. He is the worst ever.
Posted by: OzzieAussie
at June 21, 2007 2:48 AM
pez writes:
"Jimmy Carter most likely came to dislike Jews because of his relationship with Hyman Rickover, the father of the nuclear navy."
In fact, in 1996, the U.S. Navy christened the U.S.S. Jimmy Carter, the third Seawolf-class nuclear submarine. Carter's wife Rosalynn performed the christening:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter
So the ship which bears Jimmy Carter's name wouldn't even exist if it hadn't been for the pioneering Hyman Rickover.
at June 21, 2007 3:08 AM
If the world wasn't such a mess. I doubt he would dare say those words! or maybe he would...traitor!
Posted by: MZ
at June 21, 2007 3:43 AM
Susanp said,
"No, he hasn't CONverted and please don't use "reverted" for "converted". That only supports the false islamic belief that we were all born muslim. I wasn't born muslim, were you?"
Can I use the word devolved for becoming a jhadi or dhimmi?
at June 21, 2007 4:02 AM
How about "per-verted" to Islam?
at June 21, 2007 4:31 AM
If Israel at its next election elects a government that banishes all Palestinians to the other side of the planet, will Jimmy Carter say it is criminal that the world does not accept Israel's election victory of Meir Kahane? Suppose the election holds that Israel should defend itself regardless of collateral damage meaning that it should fight war the old fashioned way with collateral damage until it obtains unconditional surrender? Or suppose the Israeli electorate holds that mosques are to be targeted because they have been used to hide weapons and to drum up anti- Israeli sentiment. Will Carter demand this be respected as the majority will?
During the U.S. Civil Rights movement many southern states elected governments that wanted to exclude blacks maintaining Jim Crow laws enacted after democratic elections. The mere fact segregation was the will of a majority elected group, is the election itself to have such special significance where it has to be respected? Herr Hitler, Mr. Carter was democratically elected.
Elected officials have no right to commit evil on anyone. Elected democratically, one has the duty to act democratically. This means respecting others rights not killing the other. This means respecting a majority rule, not making a coup d'Etat. Hamas are murderous thugs. Were they elected to throw the opposition off of roof tops on adjoining buildings?
No one in the West is obligated to support an international terrorist organization just because it "won" an election. The proper response is to cut it off or war against it until it unconditionally renounces violence.
Posted by: David England
at June 21, 2007 6:16 AM
Disgusting, but not surprising.
Just wish he could keep his mouth shut.
at June 21, 2007 6:20 AM
"Dhimmi Carter pleads for Hamas"
...if he were to go to Gaza and try to open a Baptist Church...he would be pleading for his life....
at June 21, 2007 6:52 AM
profitsbeard: "Senility is a terrible thing to behold"
This isn't senility. Dhimmi Carter is a bought and paid-for lobbyist for the Islamist cause. In the Cold War years, his words and actions would have been called treason, and punished appropriately.
btw... why the HELL did people in the US once vote for this idiot? Was there some kind of collective national nervous breakdown that year? Was Gerald Ford so bad that he made Dhimmi look good? I can't believe that...
Posted by: Matamoros
at June 21, 2007 9:43 AM
pez wrote that Carters hated might have been caused by Admiral Rickover. That might be, but I think the the bigger influence in his life would be David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski. In 1973 they made him a member of the Trilateral Commission and his national career took off.
His hatred again is, in the long run, directed against his country. South American dictator or Jihadi it really does not matter, I support them is his motto. I don't think of Carter as a dhimmi, but someone who will use any stick to beat us up.
If a junkyard dog wags his tail would you climb over the fence? If Jimmy smiles and offers his hand would you shake it?
Posted by: h.beale
at June 21, 2007 9:53 AM
Pres. Bush and ex-pres Carter are actually very close on this issue because they both support 'vote counting' as the most important measure of legitimacy for a government.
The notion that the US wants to install 'democracy' in the current middle eastern plebescites shows a half-assed understanding of what 'democracy' really means in the western world. Bush doesn't seem to understand the ideas and methods of the founding fathers. Bush and Carter both think that if a tyranny or thruggery or theocracy is put in place by a vote then that ruling class should be put in power all due to the fact that the people voted them in. Our founding fathers intentionaly avoided 'democracy' in this version, since they agreed with Plato, who said that democracy of this form is 'tyranny of the mob'...
Think of it this way - should a government for our nation be formed solely on the basis of the opinion polls? That's what Bush and Carter are supporting in the Middle East. They see the tyranny of the mob as legitmate simply because the mob queued up and voted.
They stuck in their thumbs and they came out the color of plums...
making the Qur'an
the law of the land.
Half-assed notions of 'democracy' are dangerous.
Please read this 23-page essay on this matter in the most recent issue of the Objective Standard if it interests you:
http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2007-spring/forward-strategy-for-failure.asp
at June 21, 2007 11:59 AM
in Muslim countries vote counting is usually replaced with lead slinging...
Posted by: exsgtbrown
at June 21, 2007 2:18 PM
Another informative essay on democracy in the Middle East was published in the Middle East Quarterly (Spring 2007), titled: "Can there be an Islamic democracy?" by David Bukay.
He notes that in Arabic there is no word for "citizen." (I've also heard, although i'm not 100 percent certain, that there's no word in Arabic which is equivalent to the term "compromise." (?))
Bukay does not sound optimistic about the establishment of democracy in Islamic countries (he also notes that Samuel Huntington doubted the possibility of the development of Islamic democracies in 1984 because of Islamic cultural traditions)...I'm not optimistic either.
Here's a link to the article:
http://www.meforum.org/article/1680
Posted by: J.S.
at June 21, 2007 4:36 PM
Can anyone give me a link to information clarifying just how much this whore makes from his masters?
Posted by: desertdawg29palms
at June 21, 2007 8:49 PM
btw... why the HELL did people in the US once vote for this idiot? Was there some kind of collective national nervous breakdown that year? Was Gerald Ford so bad that he made Dhimmi look good? I can't believe that...
Posted by: Matamoros
I was only 6 at the time. But yeah...I think it was because Ford was that bad. Understand also....that Ford was never on a election ticket.He got the job through 2 resignations.
Posted by: screaming_eagle
at June 21, 2007 9:37 PM
Jimmy Carter, well he handled the Iran hostage crisis all right, he did. That was when he was the President. Since then he poll-watches elections--all over the globe--and puts his Imprimatur on them: Approved by Jimmy Carter, yes sir!
He watched Hugo Chavez get elected--a completely honest election, all above board. The Venezuelan people wanted him, and they got him all right. He is a good guy, fairly elected.
Same goes for Hamas. The "Palestinian people" wanted Hamas, they got Hamas. So we gotta support them (the "Palestinian people" and Hamas).
This guy wasn't just a peanut famer. He was a nuclear engineer. But he is a "do-gooder," and those are the most dangerous people in the world.
Posted by: unicorns62000
at June 22, 2007 4:09 AM
From the above article:
"Carter said Hamas, besides winning a fair and democratic mandate that should have entitled it to lead the Palestinian government, had proven itself to be far more organized in its political and military showdowns with Abbas' moderate Fatah movement."
Well, there you go. Hamas is far more organized.
Do the "trains run on time" yet?
at June 22, 2007 9:44 AM
Carter is a whore who sold himself to the Muslims when his bank was bailed out by the BCCI (Headed by one Aga Hasan Abedi who later became close personal friends with Carter) and cut his failing peanut business a sweetheart deal, then again when he was awarded a Peace Prize by the Zayed Foundation in the UAE in 2001 which carried a prize of $500,000. The Zayed foundation has denied the Holocaust. When asked to refute their claims, Carter refused. In addition, the Carter Center at Emory University is largely funded by millions of dollars in donations from Islamic countries. The Bin Laden family alone donated $1 Million to the Carter Center in 2000.
Carter's lips are firmly planted on the Muslims asses and he is deep in their hip pocket.
http://joshuapundit.blogspot.com/2006/12/ex-president-and-jew-hater-for-sale.html
at June 23, 2007 6:46 PM
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