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From AFP, with thanks to John:
LONDON (AFP) - London Mayor Ken Livingstone called on Britons Saturday not to demonize Muslims after a double car bomb plot was foiled in the capital, amid fears of a Islamist terror threat.At the same time he criticized Britain over its ties with Saudi Arabia, which he said had fuelled intolerance in the past through its Wahhabist form of Islam, creating a "major problem."
"In this city, Muslims are more likely to be law-abiding than non-Muslims and less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims," he told BBC Radio.
Really? And what terror plots have non-Muslims perpetrated recently in London?
"They have played a good and active and growing role in creating a multi-cultural society," he added.He noted that terrorist acts had been carried out in London over the years by various groups including for example far-right groups. For years the British capital was wracked by violence by the Irish Republican Army (IRA).
"All I am interested in as mayor is that we try to prevent all acts of violence whether it is by a disaffected young member of the (far-right) BNP (British National Party), whether it is by an Islamist or a Wahhabist supporter," he said.
I do not support the BNP, but I wonder, again, what terror plots BNP members have been responsible for.
It was crucial to understand "that that doesn't mean that all white men are potentially a threat to society any more than all Muslims are," he added.
Red Ken sees it all as a racial issue, when it is an ideological one. There is much in the jihad ideology that does make Muslims more of a threat to non-Muslim society than others are. But the Mayor has never examined the evidence for this, and probably never will.
Posted by Robert at July 1, 2007 4:40 PM
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Bullcrap!
Posted by: Timur
at July 1, 2007 5:23 PM
That helpful reporter decided to add the adjective "far-right" to the noun "BNP" in Livingstone's statement. Cute.
Posted by: npabga
at July 1, 2007 5:27 PM
Red Ken's close buddy is Qaradawi, based in Wahabi Qatar. Given that association of his, why is it wrong to befriend Riyadh, given that Britain has been granting asylum to Jihadis that even the Saudis consider extremists? Like Omar Baqri, Abu Hamza and others?
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at July 1, 2007 5:28 PM
"That that doesn't mean that all white men are potentially a threat to society any more than all muslims are." How left can red ken get? Left wrist hand protruding. Excuse me! All white men! Can you say industrial age. can you say technological age. Can you say Bill Gates, Richard Branson?
Posted by: mustang65
at July 1, 2007 5:39 PM
It's funny how Muslims attempt three separate bomb plots, and suddenly Livingstone starts protecting Muslims and bashing the BNP.
Posted by: Rogster
at July 1, 2007 5:58 PM
Why the hell does he need to make comments about the BNP? They're not the ones causing havoc in Europe.
It has also not escaped people's attention, that the only politician who has spoken about the threat of islam itself, is Nick Griffin, leader of the BNP. Oh, and they tried to send him to prison for 7 years for saying so.
I don't support the BNP, but their support will only grow while no mainstream party will speak the truth.
Posted by: Celsius
at July 1, 2007 6:04 PM
At the same time he criticized Britain over its ties with Saudi Arabia, which he said had fuelled intolerance in the past through its Wahhabist form of Islam, creating a "major problem."
Agreed Ken...and how much of this Wahhabi filth has infested the herds of Islamic fanatics that are plotting murder and mayhem for your city and the rest of England?
Also: Thanks for the plug for the BNP. I hope they sue the living crap out of you for slander and hope your ignorance swells their ranks.
Posted by: Briars
at July 1, 2007 6:04 PM
"At the same time he criticized Britain over its ties with Saudi Arabia, which he said had fuelled intolerance in the past....."
like Infidel Pride, i am wondering what this man is up to. did he clear that remark with al-Qaradawi before he made it ? and why did he make it ? just trying to muddy the waters ?
at July 1, 2007 6:05 PM
"In this city, Muslims are more likely to be law-abiding than non-Muslims and less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims," he told BBC Radio.
It looks like the non-Muslims may be able to hand Ken a gigantic libel suit, ala (or should I say, Allah?) the Flying Imam debacle in the U.S. They could come forward as John Does and make his life a living hell, so that when he comes up for re-election he won't have time to pander to the poor, put upon Muslims.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader
at July 1, 2007 6:11 PM
Can any Londoner please supply me with anything Ken has done to counteract the Wahhabi propaganda that he is so worried about?
Posted by: Briars
at July 1, 2007 6:18 PM
Hmmmmm.....this sounds like the PC speak that labels Muslims as the guilty persons .
After all, the early reports only mentioned about a failed car-bomb , so why would the "M" word be used and why do Muslims assume there will be backlash.
Could it be that that's exactly how they would respond if Mecca was targeted by non-Muslims with a car-bomb , keep in mind that it is usually a thief that's the first one to accuse others of stealing and now it appears that hate-filled Muslims assume evryone else is hate-filled and will murder civilians for their God.
Muslims reveal far much more about islam from what they don't say rather than what they do say, and their deafening silence after a civilian slaughter is only exceeded in irony by their concerns over perceived "Backlash" .
at July 1, 2007 6:32 PM
Tell me, how in God's name does this man get elected Mayor of London? I don't know much about the BNP, but they must have some redeeming qualities if this dolt and his socialist minions are arrayed against them.
Posted by: Lepanto
at July 1, 2007 6:41 PM
"In this city, Muslims are more likely to be law-abiding than non-Muslims and less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims," he told BBC Radio."
I think I have fairly well established, through a remarkable - even to me - series of correlations in my "Have you a daughter" post on Reconquista, and in my latest post on Reconquista - if you can read the subscript I gave a huge hint at 3/4 the way through - that Red Ken (as we call him) is lying through his teeth.
This is no surprise to we Brits.
http://gandalf-reconquista.blogspot.com/2006/11/have-you-daughter.html
http://gandalf-reconquista.blogspot.com/2007/06/apoligies-for-my-absence-ive-had.html
at July 1, 2007 6:50 PM
Wow. This guy is almost as bad as President Bush. Except Bush is actually arming the Muslims, whereas this guy isn't. I hope time doesn't give him the opportunity to arm Muslims due to "backlash" fears.
Posted by: non-redneck
at July 1, 2007 6:55 PM
I hope that Ken Livingstone is reprimanded in some meaningful way for being so bigoted against white people and non-Muslim people of any colour.
He's in someone's pocket, that's for sure.
Posted by: Josephine
at July 1, 2007 7:13 PM
Dhimmi Blair,,from Debka;june 28
"Shortly after the former British prime minister stepped into his new job, he assured Russia and the Europeans that he did not mean to adhere to the US-Israeli boycott of Hamas. One of his first tasks would be to establish ties with Hamas representatives in Gaza and Damascus."
Posted by: Madduck
at July 1, 2007 8:37 PM
Can Muslims hypnotize people? Sure looks like they got the mayor! Nobody can be that brain dead, can they?
Posted by: sounder
at July 1, 2007 8:38 PM
Can Muslims hypnotize people? Sure looks like they got the mayor! Nobody can be that brain dead, can they?
Posted by: sounder
at July 1, 2007 8:39 PM
How much time does this guy have left in office? Anyone know? Next time there is an election in London I suspect we will see a political change akin to the Chirac-to-Sarkozy transition. I'm looking forward to another of these guys getting handed their hat, but when? When?
Posted by: bluezion
at July 1, 2007 9:15 PM
Ken Livingstone is a DISGRACE to all of Britain.
Posted by: alexon
at July 1, 2007 10:11 PM
Want to bet Mr. Livingstone is a Freemason and some of his buddies and political contributors are Freemasons and Muslims?
Posted by: Timur
at July 1, 2007 10:32 PM
A past posting on Ken Livingstone:
"Ken Livingstone, who presumes, has always despised America (although that does not keep him from hiring an American expert to make those underground trains run on time). And of course he is also a great beater-upper -- ca va sans dire -- of Israel. Like "Gorgeous George" Galloway, the Glaswegian hireling of Saddam Hussein (whose money many believe helped Galloway buy his modest vacation retreat in Spain), Ken Livingstone has earned his own moniker: Red Ken.
Red Ken, or Redken as some prefer to call him, when not being mayor of London, is also a well-known shampoo. One can only wish that London voters will wash that particular shampoo right out of their hair. And then vigorously apply some anti-Jihad conditioner.
I just bought shampoo (the brand is “Marc Anthony” -— it was not so much the reduced price as the hint of Shakespeare’s paraleptic Roman that clinched the sale), and the bottle promises that its contents will, like a passing beauty who leaves one hot and bothered, “soulève, gonfle, et épaissit” (lift, volumize, thicken). And this brings relevantly to mind, in regard to that not-so-odd couple, the Mayor and the Muslim, those unforgettable lingerie ads that line the walls circumjacent to the escalators – those that go up, and those that come down -- of the London Underground.
Now as Ken Livingstone proudly showed his honored guest round and about old Londinium, did he by any chance show off that Underground, and therefore those lingerie ads, or was it limousines all the way for the Salon Bolshevik and the Quran-quoting Qaradawi? If Red Ken, in the same spirit as the Commissars who in the 1930s liked to bring Western tourists to view the gleaming Moscow Metro (“But where are the trains!” those tourists would ungratefully point out), did offer Q. such a tour, one would like to know how Monsieur Q. reacted to those advertisements, which can leave even an unaccustomed American blushing and flustered. Perhaps if his furious reaction were to have been translated, Red Ken might have looked a bit more closely into the previous protests of women’s groups, might have found out more about Qaradawi’s strictures on women’s dress, and women’s behavior, and the need for women to submit to their Qur’an-designated superiors, that is to say -- men.
And even if R. K. and Q.-q. Q. did not visit the Underground together, possibly they had a chance to take in the National Gallery. It would have been fascinating to hear Q. explain to K. through a seamlessly-bowdlerizing translator why all the statues needed to be broken or defaced if they were even to be permitted to continue to exist at all, and why, under Islam, all the paintings other than landscapes, all the depictions of famous personages, and of course anything that had a Madonna, with or without a bambino in her lap, would have to go, along with all paintings showing a saint, or a Biblical figure, or a king, or a general, or a nobleman, or any historical personage, or any non-historical figure not being held up to ridicule, because such depictions are haram, haram, haram, and don't you forget it. Perhaps Q. could then have given K. a copy of his own guide to righteous Quran’ic living, What is Halal and What Haram, even pointing out the passages that explain this unassuagable hostility toward sculpture and portrait paintings in great detail. Of course, Ken, you dimly recall what happened to the Bamiyan Buddhas, and to the frescoes formerly on the walls of the Byzantine churches of Constantinople, and to those tens of thousands of Hindu temples, and to churches all over North Africa, and Mesopotamia, and Syria -- or do you? Perhaps Ken Livingstone, a compleat homo politicus (which makes any Jack a dull boy) is not fond of art himself; he may see it as a luxury item, after all. And much of Western art, as the Kens of this world see things, corresponds to the taste of rich patrons only trying to immortalize or flatter themselves, in their commissioning of paintings and sculpture and furniture and garden follies, all paid for with the loot, as seen through the narrow lens of a narrow Ken Livingstone, accumulated through the exploitation of the working class, or the exploited colonials beyond the seas. Just look at that arch-connoisseur Kenneth Clark’s family fortune, no doubt the result of Lancashire girls spinning thread from dawn to dusk, or the liquor-store fortune of Bernard Berenson, or of course those impossible and intolerable Medicis, all those sinister Lorenzos and Cosimos. What decent human being (I quite agree, Ken) -- what decent human being can even stand to look at the paintings and sculptures that were produced for those Medici, those rich Florentine swine?
Yes, Ken, on second thought, probably you and Q. would have had much to nod in agreement about, as you walked through the National Gallery, or the Tate, or any of those other decadent centers of intolerable Western art. And Ken, wasn't it your favorite Russian writer who said that a good shoemaker was worth more than Pushkin, than everything that Pushkin had ever produced? Isn't that a world-view, isn't that an aesthetic creed, Ken, expressed so memorably and succinctly, that makes you a brother under the skin of Q-q. Q.?
And since Islam is now the vehicle of choice for those wishing to express their fury at their own perceived marginalization (psychic or economic), their own often self-induced alienation and hatred of Capitalism, of The System, of The West, of Amerika with a “K”(shudders of dismay may be inserted here), Mr. Q. came to the right place, and was made much of by the right host. Indeed, we are told that you liked Mr. Q. so much that you have invited him to return, any time he feels like it.
Ken, Redken, Mr. Livingstone, Lord Mayor of London, turn again, like Dick Whittington, if you possibly can. There may still be time. Think of those sculptures and those paintings. Do you really want Qaradawi and his ilk to have their way? Think of the freedoms built upon, and enjoyed, by those who now live in Old Londinium. Think of Bracton. Think of Coke. Think of Locke. Think of of John Stuart Mill. Think of Harry Lauder, and Al Bowlly and Jack Buchanan and Elsie Randolph. Think of Vera Lynn. Think of Sigmund Freud, and Lucien Freud, and Emma Freud, and any damn Freud who comes to mind. Think of Peter Sellers. Think of Frank Muir. Think of the Goon Show. Think of My Word, and all the gentle people who listen to My Word. Think of Alastair Sim and Alec Guinness. Think of The Bells of St. Trinian’s. Think of Wee Geordie. Think of 23 Laburnum Grove. Think of Dennis Potter -- think of Pennies From Heaven, and The Singing Detective, and Lipstick on Your Collar. Think of Keats on Hampstead Heath. Think, Ken, even of those buying bespoke at a tailor's on Jermyn Street, or the Burlington Arcade. Think about what London means, or should mean, to you, and think about the London that would exist if the likes of Sheikh Al-Qaradawi, and his followers, now well-ensconced, were to have their way – in London, in England, in Europe, all over the world. Forget about what you think about Bush, or what you think you should think of him. Think about what Q.-q. Q., if he had half a chance, would do to everyone and everything in free-spirited, silly, often deplorable, sometimes lovable London, over which you preside.
Forget about contriving always to act so as to annoy the Americans, the London Board of Rabbis, the leader-writers on The Telegraph. Try to have some gratitude to the Great Dead who created the civilization of which you and those who live in London are inheritors. Not one of those Great Dead (of England, of Europe, of the Western world)would have lasted a minute under Islam, under the likes of Al-Qaradawi and his grim little world of the shari’a, his Total Regulation, his manichaen assignment of everything to one or the other column: Haram over there, Halal over here. You owe those Great Dead of the Western world something. You owe Q-q. Q. nothing.
Please, Ken, please Mr. Livingstone, please Mr. Lord Mayor, turn again, even if that means you will have to turn against every cliché and received idea in the seemingly-immutable bolshevist banality of your mental universe. Get With the Program. And that program, if you need a hint, is not “Friends” but, rather, “Curb Your Enthusiasm.”
Yet after a terrorist attack by Muslims, for Muslim causes, prompted by the teachings of Islam that are to be found in Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira, Ken Livingstone yet again decided to welcome Sheikh Qaradawi to London. He, Redken, was not in the slightest apologetic about this. The trip was cancelled, at the last minute, but not because of Ken Livingstone.
He proceeded to tell us that there is a moral equivalence between Hamas, a group of terrorists who shoot their weapons and scream with hysterical joy whenever news of some great "victory" -- say, the shooting a pregnant women in her car, and the murder, one by one by one by one, of her four little girls -- comes across the wires. Such behavior is just par for the Hamas course, and the Likud, a political party that has the temerity to suggest that Israel has a considerable legal (the League of Nations' Mandate for Palestine), historical (the buying of land, steadily, from both the Turkish authorities and absentee landlords, and the inheriting of the nearly 90% of the land that was owned by the Ottoman state, then by the Palestine Mandatory authority, and then by its rightful and intended successor, the State of Israel), and moral (about this, if Ken Livingstone knows nothing of the history of the Jews, nor of the Muslim conquerors, nor of what happened to those Jews who remained, as dhimmis,under Muslim Arab rule, or who left to live in Europe, then he knows nothing) right to exist.
So he did not turn again, like Dick Whittington. Not worth a whisker on Dick Whittington's cat is Redken, now the mayor of the largest city in still-as-yet-incompletely-islamized Europe. But he is a portent of things to come. And how he is regarded by people in London, in England, in Europe, will tell us much about the willingness of the Infidels not to "stay the course" of appeasement and dhimmitude, but to change the course, to recover their senses, to become quick studies when it comes to Islam, and to rescue themselves, their children, and the cultural and civilizational legacy that their ancestors left them with -- and so far too many have proven to be complete ingrates.
Some gratitude please. Some common sense. Some sense of self-preservation. A modicum will do.
[Posted by Hugh at July 21, 2005]
at July 1, 2007 10:33 PM
Hugh
I thought that Red Ken was just mayor, not Lord Mayor. Therefore, Dick Whittington's reputation, as well as that of his legendary cat, should be intact.
Coming to think of it, Londonabad could do worse than have a cat as its mayor.
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at July 1, 2007 11:27 PM
Ken Livingstone need to be removed and put a man in his place that don't fear Muslims.
You ever wonder how in the heck some of those guys and gals get into government when they got no brains at all.
Briton's..do like we do. We stopped the Amnesty! (We the People)...put Livingstone off his seat and put a God Fearing man in office.
Too many chickabo's running office. Do you hear them cackling and crowing?
Posted by: Cher
at July 2, 2007 1:14 AM
Dear Lepanto,
The reason Livingstone gets voted in is because of the huge apathy of the London electorate. At the last mayorial election only about 10% of the people in my street bothered to turn up to vote, despite the fact that the polling station was a mere two hundred yards away.
When you have an apathetic majority, extremists get it.
at July 2, 2007 1:25 AM
If Muslims in Great Britian (and Europe) are so law abiding, then how does Ken Livingstone explain the high percentage of Muslim men in prisons across Great Britian and Europe?
Posted by: Johnathan
at July 2, 2007 1:25 AM
Ken is a white man, and stands condemned by his own bullshi'ite.
(A pity he wasn't on a particular London double-decker bus on a past 7/7.)
Posted by: profitsbeard
at July 2, 2007 2:02 AM
Josephine said
I hope that Ken Livingstone is reprimanded in some meaningful way for being so bigoted against white people and non-Muslim people of any colour.
Ken was reprimanded for comparing a Jewish journalist to a Nazi prison guard back in 2005. Whether it was a "meaningful" reprimand, and whether it had any affect on his bigoted statements, I'll leave that to your judgement.
Posted by: special_guest
at July 2, 2007 2:10 AM
" London Mayor Ken Livingstone called on Britons Saturday not to demonize Muslims after a double car bomb plot was foiled in the capital, amid fears of a Islamist terror threat."
Why on earth would he make such a statement?
Everybody knows it was "Asians" involved, not Nutty Muslims. Shouldn't he be trying to defend "Asians" instead of Muslims? Why isn't anybody out there warning peeps not to blame ALL "Asians" and trying to prevent "Asian" backlash and asking "Asians" to help expose the extremists among them?
Or do the Nutty Muslims have him so brainwashed that any crime committed or attempted automatically zaps him out of his chair to make a public statement defending the Islam-0-Bots?
Posted by: BendOverItsAllah
at July 2, 2007 2:16 AM
I think it would be better if Red Ken went to the Middle East and became mayor of some city there.
He is certainly not an advocate for the people of London and really is a disgrace to the British.
Not only an aide to jihadbut a betrayer of the U.K..He should be tried for treason.
at July 2, 2007 3:37 AM
“[Livingstone] noted that terrorist acts had been carried out in London over the years by various groups including for example far-right groups. For years the British capital was wracked by violence by the Irish Republican Army (IRA).”
Something wrong here, if Livingstone thinks the IRA are “far-right”, as the above wording suggests. The IRA are, or were, doctrinaire socialists, and Livingstone was an apologist for them, too. It’s pathetic to see him scraping the barrel for examples of non-Muslim terrorism. A mayor who undermines the security of the majority of the people he represents. Draw your own conclusions, voters of London!
at July 2, 2007 5:07 AM
Ken Livingstone is a total disgrace!
Since when have Londoners or anyone else in Britain 'demonized' Muslims?
He should be called to account and produce actual evidence of 'demonization'.
To my knowledge, it has never happened before, not even after 7/7, so why does he suppose it will happen now?
The man is a complete nut-case.
Posted by: Sencit
at July 2, 2007 5:15 AM
Look on the bright side, at least he hasn’t sent a delegation to Tehran or Afghanistan to negotiate a treaty with the mullahs as he tried to send a delegation to Dublin to negotiate with the IRA.
Posted by: Fred
at July 2, 2007 5:35 AM
This man seriously needs a public buttswating. redken and prince chaze can both cruise on over to saudi arabia and get jiggey. You know, with diapers or nappys on their heads. I'm not losing it yet, I'm just mad. Get these frieks out of office!
Posted by: mustang65
at July 2, 2007 5:44 AM
Yes, you are right. And I was corrected about this before, when I first put up the posting. If you are a a young American boy, raised on Dick Whittington and his cat, all mayors of London become "Lord Mayors." And I wanted that cat.
Posted by: Hugh
at July 2, 2007 7:25 AM
Livingstani was interviewed with Ed Hussain, author of "The Islamist" who laid it on the line to him in no uncertain terms about the dangers of radical Islam, having been involved in it himself and the wrongness of misguided political correctness. He also questioned Livingstani's decision to bring Al Qaradawi to the UK. Livingstani's response was to bluster about "disaffected youth from the BNP" being just as much of a security threat, quoting one case a few years ago of an ex (note ex) BNP member who blew up pubs in Soho frequented by gays.
Just what planet does this idiot live on? Perhaps Londoners should prosecute him for disregarding their safety and security. We mustn't forget that Livingstani cosied up to the IRA in a similar fashion years ago.
Posted by: londongirl
at July 2, 2007 7:47 AM
Red Fascist Komrad Ken an Labour party are more opposed to BNP, as without the Moslem vote they would be without power.
This is supported by the fact that Gordon Brown has recently appointed Shahid Malik as a junior minister.
Yes the self same Shahid Malik who said after the Burnley riots
"We don't want any trouble," he said. "The police are not the targets.
The only winners in all of this are the BNP, the NF and the far-right wing who will capitalise on it
"The reality is the communities in Burnley - Asian, white, and indeed the police - are the losers.
"The only winners in all of this are the BNP, the NF and the far right-wing who will capitalise on it."
He said Nick Griffin, the BNP leader in Oldham - scene of serious race riots earlier this year - was in Burnley on Monday, and had been an "unwanted presence".
"That's the kind of attention we don't need," Mr Malik said.
"My fear is we become a kind of magnet for some of the far-right groups who will come here to recruit."
The self same Labour Party activist Shahid Malik who has campaigned against the BNP and the campaign to shut down the Burnley BNP website
YET YET YET
Three separate enquiries have placed the blame firmly at the door of the Asian Communities, NOT the native population, and NOT the BNP.
There are any number of specialised organisations, institutions & publications in this britian that are geared exclusively towards furthering & EMPOWERING your political / cultural aims, and those of many other minority groups.
One of these organisations Commission for Racial Equality where Shahid Malik has a prominent position and is supported by the labour party and wankers such as Komrad Ken
But if an organisation comes along that intends to do EXACTLY the same thing for the native British population, then everyone starts screaming RACIST, goes on a riot and tries ( unsuccessfully ) to blame the British National Party !
Institutionalised RACISM
It is the native population who are on the receiving end of that.
Yes
Only the native population qualify to be racist
The same Shahid Malik who claims
"I have challenged the poison of Nick Griffin and the BNP".
Nick Griffin, poison is the serum to the venom of snakes like Malik, Livingstone, Galloway, and the labour Party
Nasty ol Nick (Nigk Griffen )leader of the BNP was put on trail for saying amongst other things
one year before the london bombings
"Sooner or later there's going to be Islamic terrorists letting bombs off in major cities.... it's going to be done by asylum seekers or it's going to be done by second generation Pakistanis living somewhere like Bradford"
http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2006/10/snafu.html
at July 2, 2007 8:11 AM
Lepanto:
"Tell me, how in God's name does this man get elected Mayor of London? I don't know much about the BNP, but they must have some redeeming qualities if this dolt and his socialist minions are arrayed against them."
Ken gets elected because he has, over the past 25 years, championed every minority cause a-going, and in doing so has built up a client group of voters - Muslims, ethnic minorities, gays, disabled groups, and trade unionists.
This, combined with his support from both habitual Labour supporters and extreme-Left groups, is one of the reasons for his success.
Also, nobody with any credibility has ever stood against him. A good independent candidate could blow him out of the water, but all we ever get are washed-up former politicians or on-the-make chancers.
Fortunately, his high-profile support for Al-Qaradawi lost him a lot of credibility with the gay lobby, and these latest comments will - hopefully - bleed mainstream votes too. But we still need a good candidate to stand against him.
As for the BNP... they have no redeeming qualities. The party that, in the wake of the Jihad, is now urging support for Israel, once proudly published leaflets rubbishing the "Holohoax" and espoused anti-Semitism that made Ahmedinajad sound like the head of the B'nai B'rith in comparison.
Posted by: Matamoros
at July 2, 2007 9:32 AM
Okay - I'd rather demonize the fools and intentionally ignorant who, while having the means and information necessary to protect society, choose the course of least resistance and allow innocents to remain targets. Those people are demons indeed, sir, those who would offer up their flock of sheep to the wolves out of a concern for keeping their shepard job.
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses
at July 2, 2007 10:14 AM
As for the BNP... they have no redeeming qualities.
Posted by: Matamoros at July 2, 2007 9:32 AM
Really Matamoros, heres one redeeming quality for you, reporting Muslim violence on indigenous Britons that the press are too scared to do them selves.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=1589
It is obvious to anyone with even an ounce of reason that the only political group in the UK who has the moral fortitude to adress the jihad is the BNP.
Posted by: km
at July 2, 2007 10:16 AM
"...Mayor Ken Livingstone called on Britons Saturday not to demonize Muslims after a double car bomb plot was foiled in the capital, amid fears of a Islamist terror threat. "
I wonder how many knew what was going on? Too often too many know what is going on and they just go on with life as usual because they believe they are supporting jihad - and might get into heaven by doing that.
The Mayor is just another in a long line of political dolts, all over this globe, that chose ignorance in the face of islamic imperialism/violence. The Mayor doesn't get it - if him, or any of his, were murdered - the muslims would dance and ulalate over infidels dying. And the mayor just blindly appeases these masses of 'moderates' who do nothing.
Posted by: R_not
at July 2, 2007 10:53 AM
ddd
Posted by: shiva
at July 2, 2007 11:46 AM
Posted by: Matamoros
As for the BNP... they have no redeeming qualities.
ARREST RACIST CHILD RAPISTS
National Demonstration
Keighley Town Hall
2.00 p.m. Saturday 5th
November
It's time for the police to stop turning
a blind eye to anti-white racist child abuse.
Racist perverts should be behind
bars or deported, not free to groom,
molest, drug and rape girls as
young as twelve Song tribute
Our own talented musician Ged Dodds has written a haunting song called "White Roses" about the shameful behaviour of the police and politicians. This is performed by Ged himself who has a Perry Como style voice. This is a wma. file and can be played back in Windows Media. Download it from
here. http://www.bnp.org.uk/bnptv/whiteroses.wma
Chief Constable Cramphorn must get tough with the Muslim paedophile gangs, or resign.
This was the reaction of Bradford BNP council group leader Dr. Jim Lewthwaite to the shocking news that the police had secretly scrapped the unit investigating the sexual abuse of hundreds of young white girls by gangs of Muslim men in West and South Yorkshire.
Call for national demonstration
With locals furious about this Politically Correct betrayal, the BNP, together with the Keighley group Mothers Against Paedophiles, has called a major national demonstration. The aim is to provide a legitimate and sensible way for the white community to express its anger, and to pressure the police to reinstate the investigation and take action against the racist perverts.
Bradford BNP council group deputy leader, Cllr. Angela Clarke, is writing to Chief Constable Cramphorn with further details of the campaign·s demands and the concerns behind them:
West Yorkshire police must be about the most Politically Correct force in the country, but even though we've come to expect them to be useless and biased against the white community even we·ve been shocked by the cynical way they've buried the investigation into 'grooming.' Only the other day the arrest of scores of mainly white perverts for downloading child porn on the Internet was national news, so we've got a situation where paedophiles elsewhere in the country rightly feel the force of the law for looking at sick pictures, but here in Keighley and elsewhere in this county paedophile gangs are allowed to groom, abuse and rape hundreds of innocent young girls, and the police turn a blind eye. Cramphorn is a bloody disgrace.·
Elusive and silent MP
Angela is also scathing of Keighley MP Ann Cryer: ·She·s not said a word about this subject since the General Election, but as soon as we start organising to give voice to the concerns of so many desperately worried parents she starts throwing in her tuppence-worth in the local press. It seems that Mrs Cryer only ever takes action when she's pushed to by the 'threat' of local people turning to the BNP.·
The new twist to the Muslim paedophile gang scandals emerged when Radio 5 Live broadcast a documentary on Sunday 18th September. This revealed that: 'Hundreds of white girls, many as young as 12, are being lured into a world of group sex and prostitution by gangs of British born Pakistani men from West and South Yorkshire. The girls are being introduced to their future pimps by their classmates, often the brothers and cousins of these older men.'
Writing about the programme on the website Asians in Media, Sunny Hundal revealed that the police unit to investigate these disgusting racist crimes was closed down as soon as the media spotlight cast on the issue by last year's Channel 4 'Edge of the City' programme (that Chief Constable Cramphorn had postponed until after the European Elections, lest it benefit the BNP) had shifted away. He went on to describe the way in which 'many, including the local community leaders (useless themselves in this), say the police are too afraid to tackle the issue 'too politically correct and unwilling to disturb racial and religious sensibilities·' This is political correctness gone mad.'
Making a stand
Well, the time has come to make a stand on behalf of the neglected and abused White Roses of Keighley and Yorkshire. Islamophile police chiefs and Labour politicians must be shown that they can no longer appease 'minority' sensibilities without facing corresponding pressure from the majority community.
Every BNP branch and group in the country is expected to lay on transport and start mobilising activists NOW. We're going to make this the largest demonstration in the history of the British National Party. As the demo is taking place on Guy Fawkes Night, those travelling long distances are also invited to bring their families, and to stay on into the evening and attend a big Yorkshire BNP Bonfire Night celebration and social, complete with fireworks, bonfire, burning Guys, refreshments and entertainment.
Now lets see how the New Labour Junior Shahid Malik reactes when he is confronted with a song dealing with this problem
A BNP councillor who wrote a controversial song about Savile Town will face an investigation after all following a fresh complaint from Labour MP Shahid Malik.
Coun Colin Auty escaped censure from the councillors’ watchdog body the Standards Board for England after Malik took exception to his lyrics.
Dewsbury and Mirfield MP Malik complained that the lyrics – which he claimed referred to drug dealers and the sexual grooming of 12-year-olds – stirred up racial tensions.
However the Standards Board ruled that because Coun Auty, who performs in an Irish band called Red Claire, was not acting as a councillor at the time they could not intervene.
Coun Auty (Dewsbury East) hit back by giving a brief rendition of the song outside Malik’s office in Daisy Hill, Dewsbury. Malik was furious and threatened to seek a change in the law to give the Standards Board more powers.
Now it has been revealed that Malik has made a fresh complaint claiming that Coun Auty’s antics intimidated members of his staff.
Coun Auty, who played a guitar, turned up with Dewsbury South BNP candidate Frank Atack, also a member of the group, and Burnley councillor Derek Dawson.
Coun Dawson filmed Coun Auty’s performance and the video was later added to a DVD which was made available on the BNP website.
Malik, who was not at his office, claimed to the Standards Board that Coun Dawson went inside the building to film.
Staff were intimidated, particularly two who lived in Savile Town and felt they were being targeted.
According to the Standards Board decision notice, one man “locked the door in fear of his safety” and a Muslim woman ran from the main office and hid in a back room. Police were informed.
The Standards Board said Coun Auty had “failed to comply with a number of areas of the Code of Conduct” and the matter would be investigated by the ethical standards officer. Coun Dawson faces the same allegations.
Coun Auty said he had been on the other side of the road and Coun Dawson had not set foot inside Malik’s office. All they saw were silhouettes of people inside.
“It was just meant as a poke in the eye for him,” said Coun Auty.
“He has kept this rolling along because he wants to make himself a victim.
“It may have been a bit foolish but then I am a bit cavalier. It is the first time I have been accused of intimidating anyone.
The Song
Savile Town, Where's it gone?
(Words by Colin Auty)
Ali’s shops on the corner,
And there’s Mosques all over town.
24 hours a day kebab house,
Asian taxis run by Crown.
This little piece of England,
Green and often pleasant land, why the hell am I complaining,
And why don’t I understand –
Chorus:
And I say….
Where is the chapel, where my grandma used to pray?
Where is the alehouse, where my father drank each day?
Where is the butchers shop, our mam would buy her pork?
Where have all the white folks gone, who used to stop and talk?
The bookies halfway down our street,
As (sic) long since gone as well.
And Dr Watson’s been replaced,
By a man they call Patel.
It’s curried rice and foreign dips,
No British fish & chips.
And the languages that we hear all day,
Come from foreign lips.
Repeat Chorus.
The bowling green and veterans’ club,
Are now a ghostly past.
It’s mainly used for cricket now,
Bangladesh were batting last.
If it’s drugs you lack, you’ll find your smack,
And the dealer promises more,
If next time you’ll pass, you’ll bring a lass,
Of 12 and not much more.
Repeat Chorus.
Well Matamoros ---
As for the BNP... they have no redeeming qualities.
They get my backing
at July 2, 2007 12:09 PM
special_guest -- Thank you for the link.
Ken Livingstone seems thick-skinned enough that a scolding won't bother him. He needs a reprimand in the form of financial damages, in my opinion.
Posted by: Josephine
at July 2, 2007 1:35 PM
shiva -
this is a huge problem in sweden too, yet is being covered up by law enforcement! why should race, creed, ethnicity play into whether there is actual EVIDENCE of a crime???
i will NEVER get the 'racism' card thrown around for calling out this kind of preferential treatment. do they think they're doing anyone a favor?
i honestly think people who believe in this kind of 'protection' do so because of their condescending view that criminals are INCAPABLE of adapting to the laws of the West...then claim that 'we do it too' to cover it up.
this is a HUMAN problem, and to say only a certain group is capable of it is either a liar or a fool.
i'm all with the bnp for finally saying what the real 'racists' won't. this 'holier than thou' attitude on the part of the left would be laughable if they didn't do so much damage in the process.
Posted by: Miss_Anthrope
at July 2, 2007 1:51 PM
Matamoros,
Well said about Red Ken. As a Londoner who has suffered under him for what, ten years? (and before that when he was chief of the Greater London Council), I agree fully with your analysis of the reasons why this poltroon is still lording it over us. Surely people MUST kick him out at the next election? (But as you say, he’s never had any serious opposition.)
at July 2, 2007 3:18 PM
The politicians are more afraid of the BNP then they are of the muslim terrorists.
The BNP gain support for speaking out against muslim terrorists.
If the BNP starts making political gains then mainstream politicians will start speaking out against Islamic violence in order to stop the BNP from gaining more support.
So whether you agree with the BNP or not they might atleast be a useful tool in getting the other political parties to take the islamic threat more seriously.
Posted by: GuitarBob
at July 2, 2007 3:42 PM
The politicians are more afraid of the BNP then they are of the muslim terrorists.
The BNP gain support for speaking out against muslim terrorists.
If the BNP starts making political gains then mainstream politicians will start speaking out against Islamic violence in order to stop the BNP from gaining more support.
So whether you agree with the BNP or not they might atleast be a useful tool in getting the other political parties to take the islamic threat more seriously.
Posted by: GuitarBob
at July 2, 2007 3:43 PM
So whether you agree with the BNP or not they might atleast be a useful tool in getting the other political parties to take the islamic threat more seriously.
Posted by: GuitarBob at July 2, 2007 3:42 PM
I couldnt agree more, the more say the BNP has in the main political process the more the other parties will realise they should be supporting their traditional constituents and not some third world voting block recently arrived from Crapistan.
at July 2, 2007 4:47 PM
I'm surprised Robert has not heard of the Brixton bomb. The Brixton bomber was a BNP member, and aimed to kill innocent people when he placed a bomb in a bin on Brixton High St. That is terrorism.
Posted by: Houri G'Ella
at July 2, 2007 5:22 PM
Details of the brixton bomb in 2000 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/781755.stm
Posted by: Fred
at July 2, 2007 6:08 PM
Details of the brixton bomb in 2000 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/781755.stm
Posted by: Fred
at July 2, 2007 6:08 PM
Damn
Posted by: Fred
at July 2, 2007 6:10 PM
Copeland was a maladjusted loner and his bombings were practically a unique case.
Posted by: wallyUK
at July 2, 2007 7:34 PM
The pattern's predictable by now. With each bomb outrage and failed plot over the last few years, the established Muslim community mutters a few words to disassociate itself and the racists on MPACUK blame Mossad, while opinion leaders, both Muslim and non-Muslim, blame British foreign policy and condemn islamophobia. Meanwhile the BNP justifies the charge and damn the consequences.
With both Brown and Cameron inviting Muslims into key advisory posts, failing the terrorists' managing to deliver a dirty bomb, there's every reason to suppose the pattern will remain with us perpetually, diffusing any sense of urgency (see the BBC's HYS on whether people feel safe or not)and shielding the powers that be from the need to deal with the actual problem.
A political solution is required, an unanswerable political solution. Islam must either be obliged to reform itself or face being outed as a source of beliefs and values somewhat similar to those of the BNP but with vastly greater resources and a global mission. The task requires an audience (your local MP), an objective (reform of Islam) and a strategy which is to make the MP aware of five things:
1. Islam's deterministic outlook and how this translates into a duty to overcome, highlighting the range of permitted techniques, along with the sources of this information
2. how this shows itself in the words and deeds of Islamic leaders
3. that Islam lacks central authority and the consequences of this
4. that the community is not reforming itself from within
5. that the "British foreign policy" argument does not hold water
It will take an unanswerable argument using as few words as possible, sent en masse to our lawmakers.
Call it re-orientating their perceptions, call it sending a message to our Muslim and non-Muslim lawmakers alike that the game is up, the thing is to get people thinking.
What do you think? Can such information be written concisely, including one line that gets questions asked in the House?
at July 2, 2007 8:18 PM
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