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Jordan's Parliament has rejected on Islamic grounds attempts to stiffen sentences for honor killings. "Man Gets 6 Months for Killing Sister," by Shafika Mattar for AP (thanks to D. C. Watson):
AMMAN, Jordan (AP) - A Jordanian court sentenced a man to six months in prison Monday for killing his pregnant sister - an "honor killing" the man said was necessary to uphold his family's reputation.The court justified the lenient sentence, saying it was warranted due to the "state of fury" that led to the woman's slaying.
According to the court, when the woman told her brother she was five months pregnant with her former husband's child, he began chasing her and pulled on her scarf to strangle her. He then put a pillow on her head and sat on it until she suffocated.
The court said the woman's confession angered her brother and caused him to act in an irrational way. The court also said the woman's "shameful behavior" deviated from the traditions of Jordanian society and harmed her family's honor.
In Jordan, an average of 20 women are killed in "honor killings" by male relatives each year. Men have the final say in all family matters in the conservative Muslim society, where many consider sex out of wedlock an indelible stain on a family's reputation.
Moral types, these are. Sex out of wedlock? Not on your life. But murder of a sibling? No problem.
Posted by Robert at July 10, 2007 12:16 AM
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Where everything, from morality to deity, is upside down.
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at July 10, 2007 12:49 AM
I thought honor killings weren't sanctioned by islam. That's what all the apologists say, especially the female muslim variety. They are complicit in their own torment, persecution, and murder and I am finding it more and more difficult to feel any sympathy for these masochistic witches.
Obviously the Jordanian Parliament disagrees with the apologists and considers honor killings appropriate and islamically acceptable. What about "Universal Human Rights", that noble U.N. edict that is supposed to be recognized and practiced by all members? Will Jordan be slapped on the wrist for condoning the murder of women? Oh, I almost forgot, Jordan is an islamic country and immune to the rules that apply to the rest of us. And of course, the United States is the most egregious violator of human rights. We murder babies and sell their organs but even worse, we "torture" terrorists at Gitmo.
Posted by: Susanp at July 10, 2007 1:14 AM
You may kill dogs. As a friend of mine says, the status of women in Islam is somewhere between human beings and dogs.
Posted by: FreeSpeech at July 10, 2007 1:46 AM
Speaking of muslims in the court room, check out this chick in the hijab. Obviously she didn't think infidel rules should apply to her exhalted state of at least being better than an infidel.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2051212.ece
Posted by: TexasInfidel at July 10, 2007 3:52 AM
TexasInfidel
Good story! Yet another reason to ban burkhas.
Funny how muslims revere honour more than they revere life. Come to think of it they revere anything more than they revere life: especially death.
Posted by: Gramfan at July 10, 2007 4:00 AM
...there can be no honor is killing defenseless pregnant women in the name of religion....such an act clearly shows Islam is the religion of the Insane....
Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 10, 2007 5:56 AM
Have there ever been any honour killings of male family members by female family members in the Islamic/Arab world?
Posted by: Tziona at July 10, 2007 6:05 AM
"Men have the final say in all family matters in the conservative Muslim society...." But, but, I thought that Jordan, with the English speaking king riding his Harley-Davidson, his American stepmother, and his fashion-model wife, were perfect models for what is a moderate Islamic society. Things don't sound much better in 'peaceful' Jordan than they do in the headquarters of 'peace,' the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
Posted by: maryrose at July 10, 2007 6:09 AM
Sounds like a "progressive" ruling to me.
Posted by: Elric66 at July 10, 2007 6:10 AM
...it certainly would be difficult to ride a Harley Davidson Motorcycle while dressed in throbes and Galabiyyas....
Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 10, 2007 7:14 AM
TexasInfidel's post is perhaps worthy of its own thread and, alot more discussion.
This incident raises a very serious issue as to a muslim' civil obligation to sit in judgment of fellow citizens as an "impartial" juror. A muslim's obligations run primarily to the Will of Allah, not man made laws.
Juror's are usually "voir dired", or vetted for qualifications, before a trial, so that no prejudices enter the judging process. It is an imperfect process though, as this incident attests. Between the imperfect process and the inherent prejudices muslims bring to the role of impartial juror, I see many problems ahead.
How would a devout muslim woman rule in a honor killing case?in a civil tort case where the plaintiff is another muslima? Can he/she be excluded on the exclusive basis of her/his religion? Probably not.
More reasons to believe that our very consitution will have to be amended to address the real potential for the corruption of the entire legal process by devout muslims refusing to fulfill their civil obligations.
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at July 10, 2007 9:15 AM
Not just jurors, wait until you get a bunch of Muslim judges.
Posted by: Elric66 at July 10, 2007 10:07 AM
"Moral types, these are. Sex out of wedlock? Not on your life. But murder of a sibling? No problem."
Interesting how murder doesn't dishonor a family.
Heathens!
Posted by: sadatoni at July 10, 2007 10:34 AM
Sort of off-topic, but not really:
From a post at LittleGreenFootballs yesterday by DP111
"Rape as an instrument of war - Diane E. King, cultural anthropologist, fellow with the Howard Foundation of Brown University and a researcher at Washington State University.
In the kind of patriliny found in Iraq, procreation is imagined via a seed and soil metaphor. During ethnographic research I have carried out since 1995, Iraqi Kurds have explained to me their understanding that, during sex, a man "plants a seed" in a woman. This seed is then nurtured in the "soil" of the womb. Only the seed is seen to contribute the essence of the child. I once heard it explained by a proponent of this cultural theory that a child who bears resemblance to his or her mother is a product of a seed that failed to fend off permeation by some of the soil during gestation. This could lead, I was told, to ridicule of the child's father for producing weak seed.
Rape is always humiliating, always a violation, always awful. But under patrilineal cultures, it can also be a tool of sectarian discord and even genocide. This is the case in Iraq, where rape is frequently used as a weapon of sectarian conflict. When a Shiite militiaman rapes a Sunni woman, for example, he is seen as potentially implanting a Shiite individual into her womb. He is causing her to suffer dual humiliations: She is sexually violated, with all of the personal implications that that would carry in any culture. But the rape further serves like a Trojan Horse: Thereafter, an offspring bearing the rapist's identity may well be hidden inside her body, an enemy who will emerge in nine months.
[Link:]
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/07/08/opinion/edking.php
Using rape as a weapon
article by Diane E King
This is an important article with academic credibility. It explains the behaviour of Muslim men in war and peace, and as immigrants in non-Muslim countries.
It explains why
1. Honour killings
2. The increasing incidence of rapes in Sweden and other Scandinavian countries by Muslims.
3. Why when there is difficulty in a marriage between a Muslim man married and a Western woman, the man kidnaps the children and flees to a Muslim nation
4. Why Muslim courts almost invariably hand custody of the children to the father – another reason why shari’a must never be recognised in the West, and especially not for family matters.
5. The Pakistani Muslims who gang raped girls in Australia asked the court to consider “cultural” factors in mitigation.
Please post this article on other websites for widest dissemination."
Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at July 10, 2007 3:57 PM
...muslims consider it an honor to kill....
Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 10, 2007 4:32 PM
There are some great books out there on honor killings in exposing the mentality of this heinous crime. Just last night I finished one writen by a woman who fled Jordan due to the murder of her best friend. The name of the book was Lost Honor, or Honor Lost. I think everyone should read these type of books to know how to get involved to take a stand against it. If we stay ignorant and judge it with no understanding of it, we will not step in and stop it. We all can do something.
Posted by: lightinshadows at July 11, 2007 1:10 AM
More lies. These animals do not know the meaning of "Honor".
Posted by: Timur at July 11, 2007 6:58 AM
Dark is light, up is down, good is bad....in mohamMad land.
Posted by: interestinconundrum at July 11, 2007 1:13 PM
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