I love the way they use the word "religious apartheid".

Posted by: Crusader at July 25, 2007 9:07 AM

"The suffering of the Bangladeshi people, minorities in particular, continue even today. Rape, forced conversion and murder, as weapons of genocide, have been used extensively against the minorities in Bangladesh"

....and just who is responsible for all this mahem and strife?.....hmmmmm....Islam comes to mind..(mainly Islamic Muslims)........

....genocide?....and maybe ethnic cleansing too....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 25, 2007 10:01 AM

The archived article "Bangladesh, Bangladesh":

"In 1971 East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) rose in revolt against West Pakistan (now Pakistan). Under General Yahya the Bengalees were ruthlessly suppressed. At their side, working hand in bloody glove with the General’s men, were the so-called "razakars." These were local fanatical Muslims intent on keeping "Pakistan" together in the interests, not of the people of Bangladesh, but for the "idea of Islam" and an "Islamic Pakistan." All through the war for Bangladesh's independence from West Pakistan the Muslim razakars committed mass murder of those Bangladeshis fighting the forces of General Khan. This collaborationist element in East Pakistan murdered not only local Hindus, Sikhs, and Christians, but also Muslims who wanted independence. More on this can be found at such websites as www.faithfreedom.org and websites of Hindus and ex-Muslims that concentrate on Bangladesh.\

The more fervent someone was a Muslim, the more likely it was that one would become a mass-murderer of one's neighbors. So many were convinced that as an Islamic State Pakistan had to be supported, no matter what that meant. It had to be supported for the Glory of Islam, the All for Islam, Islam, Islam. Millions managed to save themselves only because India offered them refuge.

These "razakars" were never punished. Some of them are in the Bangladeshi government today. The members and supporters of the opposing Awami League, per contra, are constantly under siege. Some of them have been murdered -- and those murdered include some of most distinguished Bengalis, including, this past January 27, Shah A. M. S. Kibria, killed when a grenade was thrown at him. The country is spiraling into complete Muslim fanaticism. One can see, at certain websites, pictures of a Hindu who, having made the mistake of walking near a mosque in Bangladesh recently as Friday Prayers were ending, was beaten by a Muslim mob -- a mob enthused, no doubt, by whatever stirring khutba it had just heard. It is not only those taking part so gleefully in the man's murder that strikes one -- but all the others standing about, enjoying the spectacle or casually ignoring it as if this sort of thing happens every day.

In 1947 35% of the population of what was then East Pakistan was non-Muslim. It is now down to 8%. Massacres of Hindus, of the few Buddhists who remained in post-Islamic India (in the Chittagong Hills area), and of Christians and other non-Muslims have been incessant. In recent times the pace of such persecution and murder seems to have picked up.

There are those Bangladeshis who nonetheless attempt to lessen the effect of Islamic fanaticism, which has recently come to infect more and more Muslims in east Asia, including not only Bangladesh, but also Malaysia and Indonesia, and Muslim minorities in southern Thailand and the southern Philippines. Things are getting worse -- that is, the ideology that Islam encourages, the Jihad-conquest, and the war against all Infidels, is not dying down but increasing. And so is the war against those who, through no fault of their own, were born into Islam and, not knowing much about it, continue to call themselves "Muslims" -- and yet, are, and will always be, the victims of other Muslims whose behavior is not an aberration but is, rather, based on the texts of Islam, of Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira.

Finally, there is the case of Mr. Salah Uddin Shoaib Chaudhury, the editor of Blitz, who was arrested in November 2003 and held without trial until May 2005 for the crime of trying to establish better relations between Israel and Muslim countries. Chaudhury's case should have been the subject of intervention by the American government. That it was not is a scandal. As for the murder of Kibria and of many others, that too should be protested – for Islam, which is essentially a vehicle for Arab cultural imperialism, continues to further the destruction of non-Muslim minorities in Bangladesh, and of Bangladesh itself, in a razakar-orgy of violence.

And today? Today in Bangladesh Hindus are beaten to death, Christians murdered, and the few remaining Buddhists in the Chittagong Hills fear for their lives. And the Awami League holdovers, the people with civic courage, like Kibria, whose Islam is tempered by their innate humanity and good sense, are murdered by those whose Islam is not.

And that is Bangladesh.

It will be interesting to see if Irene Khan, herself of Muslim Bangladeshi descent and the Secretary-General of that now heavily politicized organization, Amnesty International, (which is normally so exercised about the “war crimes” of the United States and, bien sur, Israel), will forthrightly take the lead in denouncing, again and again, the massacres of Christians and especially of Hindus in Bangladesh. She was recently there, and what seemed to exercise her the most was the declaration that Ahmadiyyas were not legitimate Muslims.

One would like Irene Khan to discuss what it was about the redefinition of the status of Ahmadiyyas was so worrying. Why would it matter, if they are called "Muslims" or not, if Islam itself is the religion of peace and tolerance we hear that it is? Why would being declared "not-Muslim" affect the wellbeing, in Bangladesh, of Ahmaddiyyas? Irene Khan knows the answer. But she persists in refusing to join Ali Sina, Ibn Warraq, and others. Instead she pretends that the problem is not Islam, not the words of Qur'an and hadith -- no, no, that will never do -- but the "cultural" or "civilizational" attitudes that, for some reason, are remarkably coincident in time and space with Islam.

Meanwhile, let's keep a close watch on Bangladesh. Make no mistake: it is an unpleasant place, made unpleasant by the aggressions of Islam. No Tales of a Bengal Lancer, and no verses by the once-celebrated Rabindranath Tagore (not a Muslim, so disliked very much in Bangladesh), are part of present-day Bangladesh, or to make it more pleasingly exotic, Bangla Desh. The massacres of millions of insufficiently loyal, or insufficiently Muslim, Bangladeshis by the army of West Pakistan seems to have left little impression. One might, under the circumstances, have thought that that little display of murderous aggression, with the stated aim of restoring the right rule of Allah to a wavering Bengali population, might have had long-term effects of fervor. This does not seem to have happened -- always excepting the handful of skeptical freedom-lovers who, through the Internet, are learning the disastrous effects Islam has had on the intellect, and on human potential, everywhere it has imposed its will.

[Posted by Hugh at December 20, 2005]

Posted by: Hugh at July 25, 2007 10:22 AM

"Terrorism in Bangladesh has been going on for decades.""

....and to this day the victims have not fought back....much to the delight of the Muslims...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 25, 2007 12:11 PM

Bangladesh is one of the worst offenders of human rights in the world, and probably exceeds even Saudi Arabia in the sheer numbers of the oppressed non-Muslims, mostly Hindu & magnitude of that oppression.
There is simply no good Muslim, therefore definitely no good Bangladeshi Muslim.
And, not to forget the demographic warfare against India itself, over 30 million Bangladeshi muslims live in India illegally. Many of these have been provided legal status by bloody Indian politicians, who negate this religious demographic warfare by giving it an economic colour. Several Indian districts bordering Bangladesh have become Muslim majority and therefore no-go zones for law enforcement authorities. Therefore, the Bangladeshi jihad has been extended to India proper.
The so-called "secular" Awami league opposition party of Bangladesh is complicit in this
demographic warfare against India. When in power, they simply denied it.
After the Indian army successfully throttled muslim terrorist infiltration from India's western border, the muslims are now using the porous border with Bangladesh & communist controlled Nepal to do the same.
Investigating agencies have found Bangladeshi muslim links to several recent terrorist bombings in India proper.

And what does the dhimmi idiot Prime minister of India, the world's largest dhimmocracy do ? Propose an economic union with this wretched country & make "borders irrelevant"
and convert the frontier into a "line of peace"

What is more, Bangladeshi muslims are ubiquitous
even in the west. Not just Londonistan or Eurabia, but even in the *USA*.

Please see this item on the brutal murder & arson
perpetrated in Anaheim, CA to wipe out an entire Hindu family.

http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/homepage/abox/article_1712023.php

This story was largely ignored or negated by the mainstream media because :
1. the culprit was a muslim
2. the victims were Hindu

This negationism really hurts, when perpetrated in a free democracy.
If even Disneyland's environs are not safe for peace-loving non-muslims, isn't it time for the entire non-islamic world to unite NOW, suspend mutual recriminations, combat jihad to root out this scourge on the human race ?

Posted by: karyakarta92 at July 25, 2007 12:36 PM

From a website that can be found by googling "Rahul Gupta":

"Ethnic Cleansing In Bangladesh

By Rahul Gupta

Vanishing Minority Population

"Hindus comprised nearly 30% of the total population in Bangladesh in 1947 [the other non-Muslims are mainly Christians and Buddhists]. After the exodus of minorities following the partition of India in 1947, the hindu population went down to about 22% by 1951. Due to unabated persecution, intimidation, and forcible conversion to Islam, the Hindu-Minority population kept on dwindling and now stands at a meager 10.5% of the total population in Bangladesh (1991 census).

Interesting to note that minority Muslim population in adjoining West Bengal (India) showed a positive growth rate and according to 1991 Census, stood at nearly 24% of the total population from only about 12% in 1947."

Posted by: Hugh at July 25, 2007 1:21 PM

Rahul Gupta notes that "the Hindu-Minority population [in Bangladesh] kept on dwindling and now stands at a meager 10.5% of the total population in Bangladesh (1991 census)."

By now the total number of non-Muslims is 8% (and that includes Christians and some Buddhists), which must mean that the total number of Hindus in what was once part of India is down to 5%. Meanwhile, despite the fact that many of those Hindus, those not murdered or forcibly converted (including those who do so because they see no other way out), fled to East Bengal in India, but in East Bengal, the proportion of Hindus has gone steadily down and the proportion of Muslims steadily up.

And, of course, the same drop in the Hindu population can be seen in Pakistan (formerly West Pakistan), while a rise in the Muslim percentage of the population is observable in India.

It is the same everywhere. It is the same with the Jews and the Arabs -- the Muslim population of Israel goes steadily up, and all the Jews of Israel can think of doing, in response, is to yield territory in order, as they fondly believe, to "retain the Jewish character" of the remaining rump-state, a state that will be hellishly difficult to defend.

It is true in Lebanon, where the Christians were a few decades ago 60% of the population, and are now about 35%.

It is true in Istanbul, and in Turkey. The city of Constantinople (Istanbul) was 50% non-Muslim in 1914; it is now 1% non-Muslim. The Jews, the Armenians, the Greeks -- all under different and varying pressures. The Armenians were mass-murdered, the Greeks driven out. The Jews, always too few and too weak even to take seriously, live in ever-decreasing numbers -- many having gone to Israel, or Europe, or America -- and keeping as quiet as they can, or sometimes forced by the Turkish government, that trots out these "Jewish spokesmen," to tell the Western world just how fine things are in Turkey.

It is true in Western Europe, where the indigenous Infidel taxpayers are supporting huge Muslim families, in which the wife or wives do not have to work, and every conceivable benefit --Western-level medical care (as long as the male doctors do not actually look at the female Muslim patients, and as long as the Muslim men are allowed in to be the intermediary between the women and the doctors, and as long as -- oh, there are so many things that Western doctors, in Germany and France and Italy and Great Britain, have been forced to adjust to in order to accommodate Muslim demands), free education (in which the threats and menace of Muslim students,when those students are numerous enough, have changed the curriculum -- have prevented, in France for example, the study of the Holocaust, of World War II, of the kings of France, of the history of Christianity in France, in the history classes, and the study of so many canonical writers, including Voltaire, and Proust, in the literature curriculm, and as for the "prof de philo" and what he or she must endure in trying to get Muslim students to think about the universe -- well, just use your imagination, and think about the effect of Muslim students on French education, students that is with little interest in France, or French history, and certainly not about to sit still either for a dictee from "Atala and Rene," or to sit still for a lecture on "The Declaration of the Rights of Man"), free practically everything, and meanwhile, they breed and breed and breed, as Orianna Fallaci noted, so that in gentle, tolerant, easygoing Netherlands for example, which had 15,000 Muslims in 1970, now has a million.

It is a phenomenon that must be halted and reversed. Demography, it turns out, is destiny. We owe it not to ourselves (we're not that great, are we?) but to all those who contributed to the civilizational legacy of the West, a legacy no part of which could have been produced in the Muslim lands, and which those who did create have a right to expect that it will be maintained, not that we will fall all over ourselves in confusion and disarray, repeating, idiotically, "but there is nothing to be done."

There is plenty to be done, and it can be done if enough people educate themselves on the nature and function of Islam. It is not exactly a mystery.

Posted by: Hugh at July 25, 2007 1:41 PM

Hugh,
BTW, the Indian state of West Bengal, bordering Bangladesh - the one that has seen a steady rise in the muslim population to 25% - is ruled by a
Communist coalition since the mid 1970's, to this present day. It is probably one of the few "democratically elected" communist governments in the world. This when, communists were eliminated as soon as Pakistan came into existence and they had to flee to India for their own survival !

But, they are the worst dhimmis actually facilitating this demographic warfare. It is doubly unfortunate because
Calcutta, the capital of West Bengal saw over 30,000 Hindus butchered *in a single day*, circa 1946, when the Muslim League called for "Direct action day" to advance their demand for Pakistan.
The educational system in India has been taken over completely by these commies, who negate the
islamic holocaust of Hindus over 1300 years.
The chapter of human history that Will Durant alluded to : "The mohammedan conquest of India was probably the bloodiest chapter in the history of humankind".
All traces of this chapter have been removed from textbooks drafted by these "eminent historians".
All traces of Hindu/Indic civilization which precede islam & the islamic invasion of India by thousands of years are also removed from Indian school textbooks.
This seems to a common characteristic of dhimmis around the globe to advance pislam.
I simply do not understand the reason for such behaviour.

Posted by: karyakarta92 at July 25, 2007 2:46 PM

Karyakarta92

Don't worry. There has been an undercurrent of Islamic unrest in Left Bengal, despite all that pandering by Marxists who have been busy betraying India during the Quit India Movement (something well documented by both Dr RC Majumdar and Arun Shourie) and making West Bengal one of the most backward states in India - competitive with Bihar and UP. I just can't wait for the Mlechchas to play their usual scorpion role. They will. And it won't be Hindu-Muslim 'Communal' violence, since Hindutva parties don't exist in that state; it will be Marxist-Muslim violence.

And when it happens, it couldn't happen to nicer guys. Either side.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 25, 2007 3:25 PM

Dhimmitude IS religious apartheid.

And it is an apartheid 100 times more oppressive and cruel than South African racial apartheid ever was. The Afrikaners could not, in the end, sustain the idea that the Bible justified their system, any more than Southern slave-owners could in the 19th century, since there is just so much in the Bible that, taken seriously, destroys the ideological foundation of tyranny and slavery. But the sacred texts of Islam overwhelmingly command, and commend, and justify, the tyranny of Muslim despots over their subjects, of Muslim men over Muslim women and dhimmis, of Muslims over everyone else. Islam's scripture is in agreement with its imperialism, not in contradiction. Its metaphysics is its politics absolutised, and its politics translates its metaphysics - tyranny and slavery.

I hope that this exhibition has lots, and lots, and lots of visitors, and that they all go away with eyes wide open, and filled with a cold, lucid, rational fury at the ugliness which is cruel, intolerant, contemptuous, greedy, vicious and arrogant Islam-on-the-ground.

I hope that the exhibition presenters explain to visitors that this horrible state of affairs, as documented, is not unique to Bangladesh; that it adequately illustrates the way that Muslims have always and everywhere treated non-Muslims, wherever and whenever Muslims have possessed the centres of power. Do any Washingtonians visit and post here? Perhaps you should go along and - if this additional and very important point is not made - you can explain it.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at July 25, 2007 5:49 PM

I was misled by the topic of this thread - "An Exhibition on Minority Human Rights in Bangladesh." Until I read the article, I thought this meant that the exhibition on this failed state's oppressed minorities was actually held in Bangladesh itself. I was astounded that something so anomalous would occur. Then I read the article, only to discover that the exhibition was to be held in Washington, D.C. I should have known better.

Posted by: commonsense at July 25, 2007 9:30 PM

karyakarta:

I live on the west coast of the United States and this fairly recent story about the Hindu family living in Anaheim that was attacked and killed by a Muslim man DID receive press coverage in the media here. I viewed several local TV news-stories about it.

The real story is that these killings made very little impact here (possibly because the Los Angeles metropolitan area has a fairly high murder rate as it is and the overall population is unfortunately rather accustomed to such incidents-- especially when they seem the same to many people a murder being simply another murder).

Posted by: pythagoras at July 25, 2007 10:22 PM

To see what happens in Bangladesh -- with impunity by Muslims to Hindus, with immunity for Muslims when they do this to Hindus (or other non-Muslims), simply click on the link below:

http://mukto-mona.com/human_rights/ethnic_clensing_Bangladesh.html

"Fig: A Hindu being beaten by Muslims in a mosque in Bangladesh. He was captured outside the mosque while going home. After Friday prayers were over, the Muslims came out and grabbed the first Hindu they could. Mr. Vimal Patak a Bangladeshi born Hindu was beaten to death with sticks as the Muslim mullas (priests) chanted "kill the Kafir!" (non-muslim). With folded hands he begged for his life and died a brutal death."

Posted by: Hugh at July 26, 2007 9:36 AM

...a good reason to fight mosque contruction in your neighborhood....on day you may witness the same senario in your back yard......

Ban mosque building permits...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 26, 2007 11:29 AM

exsgtbrown,

I agree with you 100%. Mosques are just fortresses of terror and they ought to be banned
in free societies, while this can still be done.

I was born and raised in India and have been
in this country for over 10 years now.
I have seen the mushrooming of mosques in India,
built with Saudi money or donations from expatriate muslims employed in West asia.
These colossal mosques are always constructed bang in front of existing, older Hindu temples to intimidate non-Muslims.
This is the typical muslim strategy to take over neighbourhoods, communities, entire cities.
First, 1 muslim family will rent/buy a house/business & play good neighbours, until they are slowly but surely followed by more & more muslims acquiring adjacent/proximate properties.
When they reach even a 10-15% strength, that is when they start bullying the Hindus, attacking Hindu places of worship, beating up adolescent Hindu kids, abducting/raping vulnerable Hindu women like teenagers, widows or those without male
relatives. And, the slaughter of cows - which is anathema to Hindus & especially sacrilegious in the vicinity of a place of worship. This is the perversion of islamic psychological warfare.
This continues until those Hindus who can afford to so, start leaving the area. Those who cannot afford to do so are resigned to a life worse than dhimmis.This is how muslim majority enclaves are created. They get supplemented/expanded by breeding, illegal immigration of Bangladeshis &
appeasement by politicians. Police don't dare venture into these areas - they are virtual mini Pakistans/Afghanistans on Indian soil.
This is a *huge* problem, which can only be solved
with army involvement, at a *huge* cost because it was allowed to fester so long.

I have read about this phenomenon being repeated in England, France, Sweden etc. It is extremely unfortunate that the free world is diminishing
with each passing day.

And, to add to my personal sense of outrage, I see the pattern being repeated right here in the USA. The muslims in my local community have bought a vacant plot adjacent to an existing Lutheran Church, where they gather for Friday prayers. This is less than a mile from where i reside. There are also kindergartens/senior citizen's homes within a block of this islamic center.

I don't think i'm being paranoid - it is just
caution/survival instincts inculcated by my experience with muslims.
I do not want any Beslans repeated here.

Posted by: karyakarta92 at July 26, 2007 12:40 PM

karyakarta - perhaps you need to make contact with the folks at the Lutheran church you mention? Even visit their worship service a few times (or if they have a fete or something, some open-to-the-public event, pop along). Now, I know that might be a bit difficult or uncomfortable for you as a Hindu; but Christians are always delighted to see non-Christian visitors, and genuine Christians won't hit you with hard-sell. In fact, if they ask you about yourself, why you're visiting, you can cut straight to the chase: that you're a Hindu, that actually, you're not inquiring into Christianity, but you're visiting as a concerned neighbour who thinks they ought to know about the Muslim modus operandi and is worried about what the Muslims in their immediate neighbourhood may be going to do. Have your story ready, short, sharp and to the point.

Otherwise, get to know them, make friends with one or two people, invite the pastor/ priest to dinner. Then you have your chance to share your first-hand experience of how Muslims take over in Indian towns. You can also point the church folks to Mr Robert Spencer's books and even this web-site.

Have you thought of writing a letter to the local newspaper, briefly outlining your concerns and explaining that they derive from first-hand experience in India? Or a letter to the town council, or to the congressman?

Good luck. I know that I, in a similar situation, would find it difficult to take that first step.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at July 26, 2007 11:49 PM

dumbledoresarmy,
These are all good ideas. I will follow through on these, although I'm apprehensive of being rebuffed with extreme prejudice, NOT by the church folks - but more so by the rest of the community here, particularly by my own Indian friends, who are nominally Hindu & totally
pre-occupied with materialistc things to the point of obsession. I have a reputation for being
"anti-Muslim" here as it is, which implies social
ostracization for me & my family, i.e. not getting invited to parties or getting the shoulder if we do get invited !

Even people with Masters & PhD's in my own close friends & extended family refuse to acknowledge the truth of jihad.
A month or so ago, when I forwarded the news of the massacre of the Hindu family in Anaheim, southern CA by the Bangladeshi muslims, I was accused of being a "Hindu propagandist".
Can someone please tell me, what part of this constitutes "propaganda" & how so ?
Did I kill this family to serve my "propaganda" ?

Still, it is my duty to continue this "propaganda"
and by God, I will.

Posted by: karyakarta92 at July 28, 2007 12:21 PM