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This story seems to be gone from Radio Netherlands, where it originated. If that turns out to be because it is inauthentic, I will take it down also. But I suspect it is just because of high traffic; Jihad Watch reader Ana has sent me the Free Republic link, and it rings true from what I know of dhimmi bishops:
Breda - The Dutch Roman Catholic bishop Tiny Muskens is urging the faithful of all religions to call God Allah in order to foster mutual understanding. The bishop of the city of Breda says God does not mind what he is called and points out that Allah is the Arabic word for God. The bishop, who is retiring in a few weeks, added he did not expect his ideas to find immediate acceptance. He expects it could take 100 or 200 years. Bishop Muskens has previously defied the Vatican by calling for the acceptance of married priests and the use of condoms against aids. He has also said that those who are poor may steal bread.
What a melodious name the Bishop has. Tiiiiiiny Muskens in Breda / Makes me happy, makes me -- hmmm. What rhymes with Breda? Anyway, I expect that the Bishop is right: if things keep going the way they're going now, in another 100 or 200 years almost everyone in the Netherlands will be referring to God as "Allah." But they won't be Christians.
Posted by Robert at August 14, 2007 12:50 PM
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"Bishop Tiny" sounds like the stage name for a very large pro-wrestler.
Posted by: MarisolJW
at August 14, 2007 1:02 PM
Oh dear.
What is wrong with this man? I'd have been happy to hear that the Church was increasing its outreach to Moslem women, the permanently abused subclass in Moslem culture, the weakest link in the chain of Islamic supremacism. But His Eminence unnecessarily throws the Moslems a bone. Does he have any idea that the rabid Moslem mindset is completely at peace with the notion of biting the hand that feeds it? That the likelihood of succesfully building a bridge of understanding between the communities with two-way traffic has a very poor prospect? That maybe, just maybe, Moslems moving to the West should learn to accommodate their host countries instead of endlessly making demands to accommodate their own backwardness?
His Eminence really ought to have a conversation with His Holiness. His Holiness gets it. His Eminence doesn't.
Posted by: Chatillon
at August 14, 2007 1:05 PM
This is one of these times where the Pope needs to come out strong and clear what the Church's stance is with islam.
Also fire his ass.
at August 14, 2007 1:07 PM
If this bishop's so in favor of condoms, let him start passing them out amongst his muslim brothers. There's a campaign I would fund with my own money.
Posted by: CapitalistGig
at August 14, 2007 1:08 PM
Chatillon, appearantly form Gatesofvienna, this bishop has asked for an early retirement from Pope Benedict XVI. I hope the Pope grants this wish post haste.
Take care.
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/08/light-of-world-is-dhimming.html#readfurther
Posted by: npabga
at August 14, 2007 1:09 PM
Stories like this make me miss the days when the church used to burn heretics.
Posted by: GuitarBob
at August 14, 2007 1:11 PM
Greetings:
I think this is really a come-on to the female Islamo-Christian priest from Seattle.
Posted by: 11B40
at August 14, 2007 1:11 PM
What a melodious name the Bishop has. Tiiiiiiny Muskens in Breda / Makes me happy, makes me -- hmmm.
............................
Yeah, I just read this story on Sheik Yermami's site just a minute or two before it was posted here--the name struck me as oddly appropriate, too.
By the way, the "Surrender of Breda" is already a well-known term. The original reference is to giving in to the Spanish about four-hundred years ago.
at August 14, 2007 1:14 PM
OK. Which of my gods should I call Allah?
Posted by: pagan
at August 14, 2007 1:15 PM
And Moses said to God, Behold, when I come to the Israelites and say to them, The God of your fathers has sent me to you, and they say to me, What is His name? What shall I say to them?
And God said to Moses, I AM WHO I AM and WHAT I AM, and I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE; and He said, You shall say this to the Israelites: I AM has sent me to you!
God said also to Moses, This shall you say to the Israelites: The Lord, the God of your fathers, of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, has sent me to you! This is My name forever, and by this name I am to be remembered to all generations.
Posted by: Godefroi
at August 14, 2007 1:29 PM
Bishop Muskens has previously defied the Vatican......
The bishop, who is retiring in a few weeks, added he did not expect his ideas to find immediate acceptance.
__________________
Re: Defying the Vatican
Watch for: Media Frenzy as an example of a "moderate" Christian for all of us to follow.
Re: Retiring in a few weeks
Response: ..and not a moment too soon!
Seriously, hopefully his retirement will give him some time for some serious spiritual reflection.
Posted by: Monkeywho
at August 14, 2007 1:47 PM
Oh Alla, Where did I place my Alladamned glasses? Well I'll be Alladamned! It doesn't quite have the ring, but I could get used to it.
Posted by: TexasInfidel
at August 14, 2007 1:53 PM
Bishop Muskens has previously defied the Vatican......
The bishop, who is retiring in a few weeks, added he did not expect his ideas to find immediate acceptance.
__________________
Re: Defying the Vatican
Watch for: Media Frenzy as an example of a "moderate" Christian for all of us to follow.
Re: Retiring in a few weeks
Response: ..and not a moment too soon!
Seriously, hopefully his retirement will give him some time for some serious spiritual reflection.
Posted by: Monkeywho
at August 14, 2007 1:53 PM
''God does not mind what he is called and points out that Allah is the Arabic word for God.''
I don't speak f**king Arabic ... nor do I want to.
I speak English and 'God' is the English word for 'God'
Now piss off you loony-lib useful idiot.
Posted by: Joshua
at August 14, 2007 1:54 PM
The good Bishop seems to me like a Turkey persuading other Turkeys that it is possible to have a meaningful relationship with a meat cleaver.
Posted by: UK Infidel Lover
at August 14, 2007 1:58 PM
Here's the link.
But now it disappeared from my site:
http://www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/ned070814mc
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at August 14, 2007 1:58 PM
Well you can tell ev'rybody
Down in ol' Frisco
Tell 'em
Tiny Bishop Muskens says hello
Now ev'ry boy and girl's
Gonna get their bang
'Cause Tiny Bishop Muskens
Gonna shake that thing
Tell ev'rybody
Down in ol' Frisco
That Bishop Musken's comin'
Down to say hello
Skinny Moo and
Half-track Frank
They're gonna both be gettin'
Outa the tank
One bird book
And a buzzard and a crow
Tell 'em all
That Tiny's gonna say hello
Scratch your dad
Do that bird
Suck that pig
And bring it on home
Pick that drip
And bake that dough
Tell 'em all
That Tiny says hello
Now he's king of the drunks
An' he squeezes, too
Watch out, Lester
Take it, Lou
Join the monks
The C.I.O.
Tell 'em all
That Tiny Bishop Muskens says hello
Now grease that pig
And sing praise
Go on out
And gas that dog
Trick on in
Honk that stink
Take it on down
And watch it grow
Play it low
And pick it up
Take it on in
In a plucking cup
Three-legged man
And a hot-lipped hoe
Tell 'em all Tiny says hello
Well you can tell ev'rybody
Down in ol' Frisco
Tell 'em all
Bishop Muskens says hello
..apologies to Bob Dylan
at August 14, 2007 2:14 PM
I think I started from JW and eventually came to this short online book.
Well worth the time.
The Downfall of the Netherlands Land of the Naive Fools
http://www.childrenofmillennium.org/heroes/downfall.htm
Posted by: Abrog8
at August 14, 2007 2:45 PM
Why not, instead, have the Muslims use the English term "God"? This bishop of Breda, who served for eight years in Indonesia, shows no signs of having bethought himself then or in the years since, about the mistreatment and murder of Christians in the Moluccas or elsewhere at the hands of Muslims in Indonesia. One wonders when, and from whom -- was it in Indonesia? was it back in the Netherlands, in Breda? -- he absorbed and internalized the attitudes of the classic islamochristian, the dhimmi who continues to call himself a "Christian" but, having had a close encounter with Islam, aggressive and sure of itself and on the march wherever possible, can think of no response except to give in, to pretend that the apologists are right, that there really is no difference between these "three abrahamic faiths" save for a little matter of naming of parts, the biggest part being that played by God, who this dramaturge/bishop thinks might be better played by "Allah."
""Why not call God Allah" plaintively pleads the soon-to-be-put-out-to-pasture Bishop, as his mental powers are clearly failing -- dementia praecox -- and he is no longer capable of tending his flock but has become a baa-baa black sheep of the Church himself as he sheepishly calls for a pre-emptive surrender to Islam, which he allows himself to believe is merely a matter of a nomenclatorial substitution without significance.
Call it the Entreaty of Breda.
Posted by: Hugh
at August 14, 2007 3:07 PM
One word: HERESY
Posted by: Shawmut
at August 14, 2007 3:11 PM
To United States citizen jihad watchers:
I'm looking for at least two people in every state of the Union who would be willing to purchase a copy of Robert Spencer's Religion of Peace? Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn't and mail it to one of the senators in your state. I'm organizing an effort to get the book simultaneously to all 100 senators, in order to send a strong message. If you are interested in being involved, please leave a comment at www.jihadawareness.blogspot.com. No need to leave your real name, but do say what state you live in. Once we have at least two people from every state, we can coordinate the mailing. If we get more than two people per state, we could send copies of the book to the House of Representatives as well.
Right before we do the mailing, we might issue a short press release to newspapers in every state, and in that way announce and briefly explain the mailing.
We already have a few participants, though the request for participants has only been posted for a few hours.
Posted by: traeh
at August 14, 2007 3:26 PM
Thanks, Madduck. That put a smile on my face.
Posted by: MP
at August 14, 2007 3:44 PM
Madduck,
A wonderful song, one for the ages, but what is this "Skinny Moo and Half-Track Frank"? Sounds like some of the corrosive revisionism that infects virtually all Dylan lyrics books. Anyone can hear that the man sings "Skinny Boo and T-Bone Frank." And then something about going down to gas that dog.
Anyway, these tiny little muskens sure are cute.
Cordially
Robert Spencer
at August 14, 2007 3:57 PM
What is the best, most objective and unbiased history about pre-Arabian paganism? I am very interested in the origins of Allah, the crescent moon, the satanic verses...ect.
Any good links? What did the Kaba look like before the idols were torn down? Was there an idol of Hubal, and Allah? or were they the same god?
Posted by: Jimmy the Dhimmi
at August 14, 2007 4:13 PM
Robert,
Just gave "Tiny Mongomery" another listen and
agree, Dylan clearly sez "Skinny Moo and T-Bone Frank"...
Cheers,
Madduck
below is alink..might have to D/L the Rhapsody music engine..but the whole album is great.."Tiny Mongomery" is Disc 2 trak 6
..Free listen (link below)..if you D/L the Rhapsody player
http://www.rhapsody.com/-search?query=Tiny+Montgomery&searchtype=RhapTrack
link to Album "Basement Tapes"
http://www.rhapsody.com/-search?query=Tiny+Montgomery&searchtype=RhapTrack
at August 14, 2007 4:36 PM
Christian submission to Islam is all over the place, regardless of denomination. A Danish Lutheran (i.e., of the Danish National Church) priest named Anders Gadegaard is behind an 'outreach' initiative which is organizing the collection of funds for a mosque in his parish. A few days ago, a Danish bishop by the name of Karsten Nissen declared it "un-Christian" to demand an Iraqi interpreter divorce his second wife before being granted asylum here. Anything goes, apparently.
So, where will this trend lead us a few decades down the line? Remember, this is the largely de-Christianized Scandinavia; church attendance is microscopic compared to the US. Should one of our national churches (Sweden is dhimmi hell, AFAIK pastors there are even worse than here) split over this issue, just how many souls will this leave the traditional Christians, those who believe that, excuse me, there are things that are 'true' and things that are 'lies', period? Exit Christianity, all hail the new masters (or pay the jizya).
Posted by: anti-uffe
at August 14, 2007 4:48 PM
Allah is not 'God'in the sense that Jews and Christians understand the term.
Allah is a pagan Arab moon deity founded, probably, by Mohammed's ancestor, Qussay in Mecca about 500AD.
Mohammed twisted Arabic paganism with a garbled understanding of Judaism to produce Islam and set himself up as a cult leader in the manner of David Koreish and Jim Jones.
The Christian Churches should have nothing to do with this.
Posted by: LondonBorn&Bred
at August 14, 2007 4:55 PM
Exodus 20:2-17 New Revised Standard Edition
I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
3 you shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me, but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.
You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.
Remember the Sabbath day, and keep it holy. For six days you shall labour and do all your work.
But the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns.
--
I don't see an allah in that anywhere.
at August 14, 2007 4:59 PM
->Madduck:
(OT) If you're a Basement Tapes junkie you may want to look up the, erm, gray market collections The Genuine Basement Tapes (5 CDs) or This Tree Has Roots (4 CDs):
http://theband.hiof.no/albums/boot_tree_with_roots.html
Lots of funny stuff here. If you don't know them already, I swear they'll make you punch your face just for kicks!
Posted by: anti-uffe
at August 14, 2007 5:00 PM
Isn't Pope Benedict urging reciprocity with Islam?
So reciprocate this: As soon as they start building synagogues and churches in Saudi Arabia, and allow non-Muslims to visit Mecca, we're all here in the West start referring to God as Allah. LOL.
at August 14, 2007 5:17 PM
In Assyrian Neo-Aramaic, we say Alaha, or Aloho (depending on the Aramaic dialect). But there's no way in hell, I will say Allah (despite the similarity).
Posted by: EliasAlucard
-------------------------------
Correct! Even in Arabic there is a subtle difference between the Alla of Christians and Jews and the allah of the Muslims, although to a person not familiar with the nuances of Semitic language this may be missed.
Allah in the Quranic pronunciation is a proper name which originally belonged to the Sumerian/Babylonian moon god. Arabic speaking Christians and Jews usually say Al-illah which means "the God" and has the same root as Eli, Eloi, Elohim, or Eloheynu in Hebrew.
In the Trisagion during the Christian liturgy we sing "Quduson illah" which means "Holy God". Even when a Christian or Jew says "God Willing" it is Inshellah (soft "e" as in eh) as opposed to the Muslim form of Inshallah with an asperated "ah" sound. As I said, most non-Semites will miss this very subtle difference.
It's like the word "god" in English. This can mean the Creator or it can mean Zeus, Wotan or any other diety. But if we say "the God" (Al-illah) we know we are talking about or to the True God of the Universe.
Posted by: Provoslavni
at August 14, 2007 5:28 PM
So, God doesn't mind what He is called? But then how does He know when I'm praying to Him, and not to someone else when I address a prayer to Zeus, Odin, Amon, Quetzalcoatl, Toutatis, or Allah? All of these are, or were, "gods" in various pagan cults.
And I'm sure that referring to Jesus as the son of Allah would only worsen relations with the moslems, not improve them.
at August 14, 2007 5:35 PM
Robert, Hugh, JW readers.
I am confused. I remember reading a translation of Quran. It clearly stated that "Allah is the god, Allah is the only god, there is no god other than Allah. Anyone denying this will burn in hell". I can distinctly see that Quranic god is Allah.
Why do people say Allah and God are one and the same?????????? This seems to be more of a apologist claim than a trutful one.
at August 14, 2007 5:56 PM
Anti-uffe..thanks! awesome site..bookmarked..
..may get some CHRISTMAS presents there..Tiny
Muskens will probly come out soon, though, suggesting this year we all say Happy Allahdays!..
.....
at August 14, 2007 6:15 PM
The Muslim Allah is really a reference to the moon-rock god, not the God of Jewish/Chrstian scriptures.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
at August 14, 2007 7:33 PM
The Dutch Roman Catholic bishop Tiny Muskens is urging the faithful of all religions to call God Allah in order to foster mutual understanding.
Hmm, this is strange. Muskens has a history of making controversial statements, but according to The Brussels Journal report on the 2006 Dutch elections:
"..Monsignor Tiny (Martinus) Muskens, the “red” Bishop of Breda, who once said that stealing is not a sin for the poor... also stressed that dialogue between Christians and Muslims will lead nowhere so long it remains impossible to build churches in Saudi Arabia."
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1682
He appears to have modified this view somewhat.
Posted by: Matamoros
at August 14, 2007 7:41 PM
Where is the "mutuality" in all this? Allah is an Arabic and Islamic word. What reciprocations on the part or Muslims would His Emininece suggest?
Christians view God as a Trinity. Islam clearly sets forth that Jesus is not Allah's son, is He Allah, which is much different than "the Father and I are one." (Circumincession of the Holy Trinity, q.v.) If Islam accepted this principle, then as a Christian I could possibly accept the use of the Islamic word for God.
Posted by: Greek Fire
at August 14, 2007 7:59 PM
"Dutch bishop urges faithful to call God Allah"
"Allah"..the alter ego of an ancient, illiterate, schizophrenic desert barbarian.
Posted by: Prickzilla
at August 14, 2007 8:36 PM
"What rhymes with Breda"?
Fatwa?
Jizyah?
(Allah?)
Posted by: profitsbeard
at August 14, 2007 9:31 PM
Dutch bishop urges faithful to call God Allah
16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
18This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.
I WILL NOT SUBMIT
at August 14, 2007 10:17 PM
I have just gotten my hands on what the Dutch have been smoking--and it smells like subservience. It's quite delicious, actually! *puff puff* aaahhhh...
Posted by: GetBornAgain
at August 14, 2007 10:33 PM
celticcoyote preempted part of my post.
"And God spake all these words, saying, I am the LORD [literally: YHWH] thy God, which haue brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage: Thou shalt haue no other Gods before me." Exodus chapter 20, verses 1-3, 1611 King James Version (haue = have)
So in this scheme of things, Allah fits where?
Many people of my faith who speak Arabic and other Semetic languages do often refer to God as Allah or some derivation thereof. (see Pravoslavni's post at 5:28 pm) I, however, don't speak those languages and see no reason to change. I fear the good bishop may be a little senile.
While translating religious texts, Christians and Jews did borrow names of gods that had become obsolete as personal names and had become generic terms for deities—for example:
Dis led to the generic terms theos in Greek and deus in Latin.
Dis also led to both Dis-piter "Dis is father" which led to Jupiter and Zeus, all taken as personal names.
-Liddell & Scott, Greek-English Lexicon 7th Ed., Oxford at the Clarendon Press, 1986. Di, Dii, Zeus.
I have heard, but am not going to bother looking it up now, that the Germanic gott/god has origins similar to the Greek and Latin terms.
The Hebrew word for God Elohim (not His proper name, YHWH), is closely related (grammatically) to the Canaanite/Philistine god El. -refer to most any book on Ugarit.
Posted by: St. David, King of Georgia
at August 14, 2007 11:49 PM
It doesn't matter what Christians in the middle-east call God. This is in Holland not the middle-east.
What ever happened to when in Rome do like the Romans?
Todays immigrants think when in Rome do like the Visi-goths.
Posted by: GuitarBob
at August 15, 2007 12:02 AM
http://users.hubwest.com/prophet/islam/moongod.htm
Moon god aside, I'm not speaking Arabic, ever!
at August 15, 2007 4:00 AM
I would not say that Allah is synonymous with Mo. My guess is that most muslims would vehemently disagree that they are synonymous.
But I do agree that there is no way that Allah is the same God of the Jews and Christians. At best Allah is simply made up by Mo, at worst Allah is Satan.
Posted by: kutabeach
at August 15, 2007 9:38 AM
This one is easy! God's name is Jehweh! IEUE! Ish 42:8
Posted by: MZ
at August 15, 2007 10:34 AM
What a wimp! This bishop is a disgrace to .....unbelievable!
Posted by: americanmadestrat
at August 15, 2007 10:52 AM
You can find traitors everywhere. This is another one of them, and he must be resisted. To actually give Indonesia as a model reveals his traitorous intent.
The first commandment still stands, and it is still the most important. I am sure he would be disappointed to know that Christ in Arabic is "Messiah".
Posted by: ofcourse
at August 15, 2007 11:34 AM
I am sorry to say that the message is authentic. Needless to say however, that man didn't got any support from anyone.
Posted by: DrWolffenstein
at August 15, 2007 11:37 AM
What this preacher in the Netherlands is advocating is a prelude to what will happen everywhere else if nothing is done to stop political correctness from becoming even more entrenched in human society.
Posted by: Christian
at August 15, 2007 1:00 PM
I wonder how one says "I AM!" in Arabic. Is there a worthy translation of the Tetragrammaton in Arabic? Most English attempts are either sadly lacking or take an entire paragraph to translate this one Word. (I don't intend to start saying the Name in Arabic, I'm just curious.)
at August 15, 2007 1:08 PM
A little poem
There once was a Bishop in Breda
Whose anus clamped down on his head-a,
He said the Shahada,
(Thinking it nada!)
And now by his nose he is led-a.
at August 15, 2007 5:07 PM
Another little poem
The insane old Bishop of Breda
Has lost his last vestige of cred-a.
He bowed down to Allah
And was heard to hollah:
"I am on the side of Al Qaida!"
at August 15, 2007 5:12 PM
MSNBC has this story and also an opportunity to "vote" whether or not you think this is a good idea, i.e. for everyone to call God Allah.
So far, 85% say No, call God in English. The other 15% say they "don't care" or think it's a good idea.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20279326/
Posted by: alexon
at August 15, 2007 5:18 PM
The good bishop practices advanced ethics, and all of you are obviously too primitive to understand.
--------
ignignokt: pick up that stereo and sink it deep within your body
meatwad: but then that would be stealing
err: not if you need it, and you need it
ignignokt: on the moon meatwad
err: go get it
ignignokt: we have advanced beyond rules and manors
err: indeed
--------------
Posted by: Hyman Roth
at August 15, 2007 5:32 PM
Is diminshed capacity a defense for heresy?
Posted by: Shawmut
at August 15, 2007 8:33 PM
why did the founding fathers use the open to interpretation name for god, which everyone calls "him" god? why not jehovah, which is mentioned in hte bible new and old countless times? even praise jah means praise jehovah.
it's kind of like a loophole in the constitution.
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer
at August 15, 2007 8:58 PM
Yahweh and al-lah are TWO DISTINCT entities that stand for diametrically opposing doctrines. They have NOTHING in common.
No Christian should EVER make such a mistake! I have no idea where this Dutch bishop is coming from (a nutfarm or something?) with this notion of his.
(al-lah, besides being an idol, actually could even be the "beast" mentioned in the Bible's Book of Revelations!).
Posted by: pythagoras
at August 15, 2007 9:41 PM
Tiny bubbles (tiny bubbles)
In the wine (in the wine)
Make me happy (make me happy)
Make me feel fine (make me feel fine)
Tiiiiiny muskens
Make me warm all over
With a feeling that I'm gonna
Love you till the end of time
So here's to the golden moon
And here's to the silver sea
And mostly here's a toast
To you and me
So here's to the ginger lei
I give to you today
And here's a kiss
That will not fade away
-revisionist Don Ho
Posted by: Madduck
at August 15, 2007 10:30 PM
I expect that the Bishop is right: if things keep going the way they're going now, in another 100 or 200 years almost everyone in the Netherlands will be referring to God as "Allah." But they won't be Christians.
This from a Roman Catholic Bishop?
No, I think the time line will be more like five years tops.
Posted by: witness
at August 15, 2007 10:33 PM
Why doesn't this "bishop" tell his flock to call God "Devil" from now on??!!
Damn.. they must be drinking some mighty fine stuff at Mass over there..
Maybe the muzzies.. er.. I meant the Mos.. are mixing in some funny flavor into the drinks over there.....
That Holy Water sure ain't Holy if it can't even keep the ***BISHOP*** from losing his mind!!
What the HELL IS the purpose of Holy Water if not to deter bad spirits and devils??!!
Posted by: Allahfanculo
at August 16, 2007 12:32 AM
A language has properties, words have certain connotations….
Strange isn’t it, the Pope wants to re-institute the Latin Mass, presumably because he thinks some things can only be expressed in Latin.
While at the same time, a dim-witted bishop thinks there is no harm in using the word “Allah.”
at August 16, 2007 4:57 PM
The amount of filth within the Catholic Church that needs to be cleansed immediately is far to great at the moment, but still, this vermin must be ex-communicated as soon as possible.
How can the Church allow this evil to continue?
No matter who the Pope is, many within his own
Church will side with the Islamists everytime.
at August 17, 2007 12:00 AM
Multiple-choice question:
The Holy Trinity is composed of:
a. God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost
b. Winkin, Blinkin, and Nod
c. Larry, Shemp, and Moe
d. Huey, Dewey, and Louie
e. Liberte, Egalite, and Fraternite
f. any of the above, since God doesn't care what He is called
at August 17, 2007 11:32 AM
If I call God Allah he will cut my head off!
Posted by: MZ
at August 20, 2007 3:54 PM
If I don't call him allah he still wants to! umm..
Posted by: MZ
at August 20, 2007 4:00 PM
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