To take a page out of the Clinton's book when it came to the dung Madonna and piss Christ, "It's freedom of expression and people just need to shut up about it."

Good for the Swedes, hopefully we'll see more of this from our European brothers.

Posted by: The fanatic at September 17, 2007 10:58 PM

This is great! I hope this starts a well overdue trend-No more dhimmitude! No more BS!

Posted by: mrockroll1969 at September 17, 2007 10:59 PM

Go Swedes! Stand up to those Islamic thugs.

Posted by: non-redneck at September 17, 2007 11:10 PM

I love it that they republished the offense.

Posted by: KAOSKTRL at September 17, 2007 11:25 PM

Muslims Against Sharia praise courage of Lars Vilks, Ulf Johansson & Thorbjorn Larsson and staff of Nerikes Allehanda & Dagens Nyheter and condemn threats issued by Abu Omar Al Baghdadi & Islamic State of Iraq. Muslims Against Sharia will provide a payment of 100,000kr (about $15,000) for the information leading to capture or neutralization of Abu Omar Al Baghdadi.
Muslims Against Sharia

Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia at September 17, 2007 11:39 PM

The entire Swedish, no make that the entire Scandinavian, no make that the entire Western, no make that the entire Infidel, press, should in a display of solidarity and defiance republish, possibly all on the same day, or during the same week, the single cartoon of Lars Vilks and the cartoons that appeared in the Danish paper Jyllans-Posten, and then any other cartoons that have appeared that have elicited threats of any kind from Muslim states, Muslim groups, Muslim individuals.

No commentary necessary. Just the cartoons, reprinted solemnly in an act of world-wide defiance. Who is to decide what Infidels publish or write or say or think? Is it to be Muslims, or is it to be the Infidels themselves, exercising their own rights, that they acquired over centuries of effort by remarkable individuals, not one of whom could have been produced by, or lasted a minute within, any society suffused with Islam.

I feel like saying to the world's press what someone who often comes to mind once told me in justified exasperation: "fais un petit effort."

Posted by: Hugh at September 17, 2007 11:40 PM

"Dependence on state handouts is widespread amongst the adult generations. Today around 21-22 percent of the Swedish population in working age is being supported by one form government handout or another, up from around 11 percent in 1970…"

http://www.thelocal.se/7305/20070514/

"From Bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to complacency; From complacency to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Tytler

Islam performs poorly under Dictatorships. Dependence is the next to last stop.

Posted by: pez at September 17, 2007 11:50 PM

"Who is to decide what Infidels publish or write or say or think? Is it to be Muslims, or is it to be the Infidels themselves, exercising their own rights, that they acquired over centuries of effort by remarkable individuals, not one of whom could have been produced by, or lasted a minute within, any society suffused with Islam."

Hugh:
Couldn't agree more. That is why I thought the cartoon fiasco was, in concept, a lot worse than many acts of terror. (I don't mean to diminish the suffers - but the threat to our free speech was quite intolerable).

Muslims Against Sharia:
good luck with your efforts!

Posted by: Gramfan at September 18, 2007 12:19 AM

oops,,that should be "suffering".

Posted by: Gramfan at September 18, 2007 12:22 AM

Greetings:

Remember the Malmo

Posted by: 11B40 at September 18, 2007 12:41 AM

Here is a link to a WND article on Doug Marlette's, "What would Mohammed Drive" cartoon from 2002:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30197

Marlette was killed in a motor vehicla accident a couple of months ago.

This was one of his better cartoons, and should be republished. He also drew some in support of the "palestinians", and took pains to be an "equal opportunity offender", thereby demonstrating foolish moral equivalence:
http://dougmarlette.com/pages/controvtoons.html

So, he was not entirely wise, but his death was nevertheless unfortunate.

Posted by: del at September 18, 2007 1:24 AM

Muslims against Shariah

Your site left out what exactly should the role and example of Mohammed be to Muslims. It's all very well to call for updating the Quran and Sunnah, but I didn't see anything that addresses whether the Prophet should be the defining standard of behavior, or what should replace him. When you state that 'Islam is peace; Islam is love; Islam is light', what exactly are you basing that claim on, given the examples of Mohammed that have been used by Jihadis and Shariah supremacists over the ages?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at September 18, 2007 2:26 AM

Infidel Pride, one step at a time, my brother.

Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia at September 18, 2007 2:39 AM

Muslims against sharia,

All the best.

Posted by: Voltaire at September 18, 2007 2:50 AM

Muslims against sharia,

All the best.

Posted by: Voltaire at September 18, 2007 2:50 AM

Muslims Against Sharia,

Isn't the name itself an oxymoron?

More taqiyya from the likes of Haidon, trying to create the impression there are "good moderate Muslims", and lo and behold, there are no end to the useful Western idiots wanting to believe this garbage.

If you are against Sharia law, Muslims Against Sharia, then just give up Islam.
Islam and the Qur'an is just filth from the mouth of a pedophile, murdering bandit and madman, Mohammed.

Why does anyone beieve anything a Muslim says, especially here, of all places?
Insanity rules.

Posted by: Mike_W at September 18, 2007 3:11 AM

It looks like art to me.., i seldom read cartoons.
The islamist are trying to dictate and rule us under their 'law'. Like they do the "Christians" well the Iranian, Lebanese Christians. They try to rule our programming on tv. Like Britney..! I do not agree with Britney and she will pay for her mistake. It is not the islamist who we must evaluate our ..anything! It does astound me people even as kathy griffin saying what she did about Jesus would not of been tolerated if she said that about Mo! Even though some are saying this and it is true, she should fear God first! She should fear Jesus! She should repent! There are lots of things people can repent. Repent sounds like a holi word but in the dictionary it means to change what you know you are doing is wrong.
Not to repeat it. When people say they are sorry it means similar. I will never do that "again".

Posted by: MZ at September 18, 2007 5:36 AM

Muslims against Sharia,

Good luck I hope you can make an impact.

Posted by: km at September 18, 2007 6:17 AM

"Swedish media condemned the threats,..."

....I would like to see the Swedish government do the same....

I would like them to Ban Muslim Immigration...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at September 18, 2007 6:28 AM

Muslims Against Sharia -- In case you haven't read about it:

Tarek Fatah and the Muslim Canadian Congress fought successfully against sharia in Canada.

http://www.muslimcanadiancongress.org/

Posted by: Josephine at September 18, 2007 8:30 AM

Josephine,

While that is good news but that A country in the West has to fight against Sharia law is troubling enough.

Posted by: Elric66 at September 18, 2007 8:50 AM

"Josephine,

While that is good news but that A country in the West has to fight against Sharia law is troubling enough.
Posted by: Elric66"

You nailed it. Elric66! It shouldn't even come into the equation.

Posted by: Gramfan at September 18, 2007 9:43 AM

Even the Pope cannot read a quote from the past, well he did but he sure..took it back..something?
I thought when he read it, it was an invitation for the islamist to come to the table and lets look at our translations. Take me to your leader.

Posted by: MZ at September 18, 2007 9:45 AM

Muslims Against Sharia
here is a link for you:

http://eye-on-the-world.blogspot.com/2007/09/europe-ex-muslims-want-to-be-heard.html

Posted by: Gramfan at September 18, 2007 9:50 AM

Infidel Pride, I agree with you.

When you quoted from the "Muslims Against Sharia" site, "Islam is peace/love/light" I lost all hope in "Muslims Against Sharia."

Islam is the farthest you can get from those things. Islam is a pack of outright lies, along with various plagiarisms from The Bible that are then twisted and perverted for Mohammed's megalomaniacal ambitions of becoming a "prophet."

The Koran has no narrative cohesion, and can best be described as a "mishmash" of the ravings of a Madman who lied about "allah." There is no "allah," - except for the pre-Islamic pagan Moon god rock idol.

Islam is Lies, therefore, Islam is Darkness.

Posted by: darcy at September 18, 2007 10:09 AM

In connection with my comment above, here's a link called "islam watch: Telling the truth about Islam."

In the middle of the first page, the author, an ex-Muslim Iranian, says, "Facing the truth is sometimes more difficult than understanding it."

Highly recommended:

http://www.islam-watch.org/LeavingIslam/Behrouz.htm

Posted by: darcy at September 18, 2007 10:17 AM

Muslims Against Sharia:

Over at your site you ask the following question.

'Could it be possible that the Koran itself was corrupted by Muslims over the last thirteen centuries?'

It would have been interesting for YOU to have tackled this one head on instead of leaving it to the reader to make up their own mind. The way the question is posed leaves two possibilities.

1. The qur'an is and will always remain the immutable word of God.

Or..

2. The qur'an has been altered (by Muslims) for whatever reason over many centuries.

Because you call yourself a reformer I will presume you opt for the latter. So how can you convince your fellow brothers and sisters that the verses you have cleansed have been the added, corrupted or obsolete ones? You can't.

However noble your mission may sound to naive Western ears it will be viewed here with scepticism. The reform movement is nothing more than a rearguard garrison putting down smoke whenever the the Umma find themselves the attention of the stirring infidel.

Nowhere do you mention the name 'Muhammad' on your site. Perhaps you could let us know your feelings about this revered fella and the bits you find distasteful.

Posted by: western infidel at September 18, 2007 11:05 AM

I share your skepticism, western infidel. Many Muslims have renounced Islam, Koran, Mohammed. That's what needs to be done. As I quoted the ex-Muslim above, it's hard to "face the truth" (about islam/koran/mohammed) but others have done it.

Posted by: darcy at September 18, 2007 11:12 AM

We should all protect this hero with our lives

Posted by: LazarOfSerbia at September 18, 2007 2:00 PM

Mike_W, our name is not an oxymoron. We realize the need for Islam to be reformed. Sharia must be abolished as a part of that reform. Christians did not give up Christianity in the time of the Inquisition or persecution of the Jews. And Christianity turned out to be OK. We believe the same is possible with Islam. Leaving Islam is the easy way out. Reforming Islam to help a billion+ people, who were born into the faith, is the right course of action. And the fact that we are attacked from both sides proves that we are on the right course. If you bother to visit our website, you will see that we are advocating removing outdated verses from the Koran. As for why would anyone believe us, you are hardly in a position to judge. Most of the members of our group first-hand suffered from a persecution by Islamofascists. Your experience is most likely academic. It may help you to consider two facts: most victims of radical Islam are Muslims themselves; and that if it weren’t for Western appetite for oil, that gave rise to Petro-Islam, Islamic terrorism would be as obscure as Westboro Baptist Church and Erick Rudolph.

western infidel, there is no point in trying to figure our how those verses got into the Koran. There will never be an agreement on that. What we need to do is to make sure that the verses are removed or marked as outdated. Some of Muhammad’s practices are clearly incompatible with standards of modern society, but our position is that religion is a private matter of every individual. Relationship between a Muslim and his/her Prophet should be private.

Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia at September 18, 2007 3:45 PM

Josephine, Muslim Canadian Congress seems to be a step in the right direction, but we cannot accept some of their views, i.e., condemnation of the War on Terror, referring to Qana (Lebanon) bombing as a massacre beyond barbarism, etc. We do not believe that truly moderate Muslims would espouse those views.

Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia at September 18, 2007 3:57 PM

Muslim "reformers" -- some real, some not so real -- may do their stuff, but Infidels cannot bet their farms, and their cities, and their physical and civilizational survival, on some Bright Young Muslim Things deciding to mark this or that Qur'anic passage as "outdated" and hope that 1.2 billion Muslims, most of them as primitive, or rather even more primitive, than the great masses of people are anywhere (which is why the reigning ideology had better be a good one, or at least one unlikely to do great harm), will somehow agree to this, and in five years, or ten, or twenty, we will have this Brand New Islam, and can all breathe a world-wide sigh of relief.

Nothing doing. Reform away, but don't expect intelligent Infidels to rely on that for their safety. They will do what they have to do, what makes sense, what is entirely justified given the texts of Islam, the tenets of Islam, the attitudes and atmospherics of Islam that may survive even among those who no longer read those texts or accept those tenets.

It's too late in the day for Infidels to take such chances. Sorry. No can do.

Posted by: Hugh at September 18, 2007 6:22 PM

"While that is good news but that A country in the West has to fight against Sharia law is troubling enough." Posted by: Elric66

I totally agree.

Posted by: Josephine at September 18, 2007 9:22 PM

"Muslim Canadian Congress seems to be a step in the right direction, but we cannot accept some of their views, i.e., condemnation of the War on Terror, referring to Qana (Lebanon) bombing as a massacre beyond barbarism, etc. We do not believe that truly moderate Muslims would espouse those views."
Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia

Thank you for your comments. I agree with you.

Posted by: Josephine at September 18, 2007 9:25 PM

Why are we infidels even having to concern ourselves with muslim whining and threats is beyond me.

http://bp3.blogger.com/_ExBNkMS5PEE/RvC37IW1WiI/AAAAAAAAACM/sy8obSaqsPI/s1600-h/shellG.jpg

Posted by: savitch at September 19, 2007 2:42 AM

Hugh, if non-Muslims got off their asses and stopped appeasing Muslim fundamentalists by installing footbaths at the airports, allowing passengers to be sued for alerting authorities, or allowing airlines to be sued for profiling, the job of Muslim reformers would be a lot easier. How do you think moderate Muslims feel when the police have to ask for permission from radical imams to enter Muslim neighborhoods, when Muslim Brotherhood fronts teach Muslim sensitivity classes at the FBI and pick Muslim chaplains for military and prisons, when majority of Western mosques and madrassas are controlled by the Wahhabis? Dhimmitude is just as dangerous as radical Islam.

Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia at September 19, 2007 4:16 AM

Differentiating between the moderate and the radical can be difficult for Johnny infidel. Rightly or wrongly an unintuitive novice such as myself might use visual pointers for discernment. For instance, I might say does the hat match the dress? Does the beard look recently trimmed? Are the eyes fiery or icy looking? Does the wife/wives walk by his side or a distance behind? And so on. I already hear you scoffing at my clueless idiocy and cultural stereotyping MAS. But when you consider a religion, that mandates the deceiving of unbelievers in its quest for global supremacy, then everything from a Muslim should be viewed with suspicion.

I will know how 'moderate' Muslims feel when they speak out unequivocally and rein in the Johnny jihadis that operate unfettered in their communities.

The Moderate, the Radical and the Reformer are the Trinity of tyranny.

Posted by: western infidel at September 19, 2007 7:12 AM

MuslimsAgainstSharia is right when he/she puts the blame on some of our non-muslim leadership who cave to demands by muslim fundamentalists resulting in the creeping sharification of our nations.

I propose that muslimsagainstsharia put themselves squarely in the public debate by publicly denouncing these acts of dhimmitude. I hope your game plan includes contacting the governmental agencies as representing moderate muslims and pointing out the harm they are doing our nations by accomodating those who are trying to implement sharia. What concrete actions have you taken thus far?

Posted by: eve_anne_gelical at September 19, 2007 10:59 AM

Hurrah for Lars Vilks!!

It's great to hear of his courageous non-apologetic stand against the evil & oppressive forces of Islam.

Hardly typical of Europeans, unfortunately.

He is a hero. There should be an award for such resistance in the face of these disgusting death fatwas – say, a “Charles Martel Award”, which some wealthy benefactor ought to create. Europe should try to reinvigorate the spirit of their great savior Charles Martel.

Posted by: FM at September 19, 2007 5:38 PM

western infidel, we suggest you consulted an Islamic scholar, i.e., an esteemed host of this blog to see if the following hatred scale is correct. We'll put it in DHS terms.

Muslim fundamentalists hatred level for:
Muslims of different denominations - MODERATE
Non-Muslims - ELEVATED
Muslims who left Islam - HIGH
Muslims who want to reform Islam - SEVERE

Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia at September 19, 2007 6:03 PM

The sentence "Islam is..." is meaningless. (So is the sentence "Christianity is ...")

Islam is as Muslims make it. The fact that they have a holy book which contains horrible things, and a history which includes horrible things, is not completely irrelevant, but not decisive.

Christianity's Holy Books -- if you include the Old Testament -- includes plenty of horrible things, as does the Christian history of persecution of non-Christians, and of each other.

But modern Christianity has in fact adopted the ethos and outlook of the Enlightennment, and all the horrible and crazy stuff in the Bible are just ignored by Christians, as are the prescriptions of personal morality (like forbidding divorce except in the case of fornication) that Christians no longer find convenient.

In short, Christianity (and Judaism) have become modern, secularized, tolerant religions -- serving mainly as comfort-blankets for their supporters, or a means of structuring a satisfactory life in a pretty confused and often-ugly secular world, or a means of reinforcing ethnic solidarity. In a word, they are now harmless. (Why can't Dawkins, Hitchins, Hunt, etc see this obvious truth?)

This will happen with Islam too, as the Muslim world catches up with Europe economically and socially. However, it may take decades, and the unfortunate intersection of modern military technology with a medieval mind-set means we may wade through blood before it's all over. So we must keep our powder dry.

Posted by: Doug at September 22, 2007 12:13 PM