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And of course, the responsibility for that lies solely with the police, not with the Muslim community in Australia.
"Australia risks 'London-type bombing,'" by John Lyons in The Australian (thanks to LGF):
AUSTRALIA faces a "London-type bombing" if relations between Muslims and the intelligence and police authorities do not improve, an influential Islamic youth leader has warned.Fadi Rahman, who runs one of Sydney's biggest youth centres at Lidcombe in the city's west, said overseas Islamic elements were attempting to radicalise Muslim youth with their hardline ideologies.
But in a warning that will resonate with Australian authorities, Mr Rahman said Muslims did not trust ASIO or the Australian Federal Police and that the bungled terror case against Gold Coast doctor Mohamed Haneef had worsened the situation. "The biggest problem ASIO and the federal police have is that no one in the Islamic community trusts them enough to give them a heads-up about anything," Mr Rahman told The Australian.
"Look at the Haneef thing - why would we trust these guys when all you see is one fumble after another? People are afraid."
Indeed.
Posted by Robert at October 29, 2007 10:08 AM
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Let's see here-the choice is either accept the quiet, creeping campaign of the ummah to swallow more and more nations with a smile or just say no and have the hotheads do their worst. In other words, Australia can submit quietly or it can submit violently, so long as it submits. Nice choice of options but I favor a third option-stop immigration and exile all known troublemakers until there are no more hotheads around to cause trouble and submission is no longer an option at all.
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at October 29, 2007 10:21 AM
Why would trust a group that threatens you? just saying?
Posted by: Elric66 at October 29, 2007 11:10 AM
One hopes that the threats and the misery brought about by the presence of people afflicted with this disorder is coming to be understood by governments in the West.
Silence in the face of such threats is complicity. The silence of all too many Moslems has been noted by their neighbors who rightfully wonder and worry what to make of it.
Perhaps most of the population views mass deportations as draconian or outrightly unjust. I don't believe that it is so, however. It's hard to think of another immigrant wave that has brought with it so much anger, violence and demands for accommodation. Common sense would dictate that in order for society to remain stable and secure, immigration quotas from Moslem lands should be restricted until further notice. Moslem murderers of course should be prosecuted, jailed and ultimately expelled but with the additional requirement that their families (mothers, fathers, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, cousins, children) be repatriated to the country of origin.
For native born Moslems, these can be transported to Saudi Arabia, where the Saudis doubtless will take in their Moslem brothers with typical Moslem charity, no matter what their race or national background.
Posted by: Chatillon at October 29, 2007 11:43 AM
Chatillon,
It will have to come to mass deportation if the West is to survive as it is. The other choice is the slow decent into Islam. If anyone thinks Muslims can assimulate into a non Muslim culture, they are either naive or a liar. I have 1400 years of Islamic history that proves me correct.
Posted by: Elric66 at October 29, 2007 11:48 AM
Jihadis are the symptom.
Mullahs are the vectors.
Islam is the plague.
Islam is a plague on both houses - the house of Islam and the house of war.
Da Mullahs got to go.
at October 29, 2007 11:59 AM
Amen to that Plague
Posted by: Elric66 at October 29, 2007 12:07 PM
Read the playbook, Oz.
Termites eat houses.
Islamists eat countries.
If there was a question for newly arriving immigrants:
"Do you support the replacement of the existing secular government with a theocracy?"
then at least this ideological plague could be screened out and its devoteees kicked back to the breeding ground of this pestilence.
Mecca, home of anti-Human Rights.
at October 29, 2007 12:17 PM
profitsbeard,
As Mo said, "deception is war". Sadly, we have no way of knowing who would be lying. The ummah's number 1 goal is the advancement of the ummah. Deception isnt beneath them.
at October 29, 2007 12:23 PM
A 'good' western government, seems to be one who sticks with muslims through all to problems they have and cause, that the gov would not have to stick with, had they not let these people in to begin with. Stop muslim immigration, and get rid of troublemakers.
Posted by: duh_swami at October 29, 2007 12:26 PM
HISTORY OF GIRLS BEING KIDNAPPED IN EUROPE AND ENDING UP IN MOROCCO !!!
ROBERT - IS THIS A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF YOUR HISTORICAL REFERENCES TO MUSLIMS RAIDING EUROPE FOR SLAVES ??
The insider at Metodo 3 said of the American girl: "Investigators came across her as they were working to find Madeleine and have tipped off Interpol. There is a long history of girls being kidnapped from Europe and ending up in Morocco.
Posted by: Churchill1939 at October 29, 2007 1:09 PM
Chatillon wrote:
"For native born Moslems, these can be transported to Saudi Arabia, where the Saudis doubtless will take in their Moslem brothers with typical Moslem charity, no matter what their race or national background."
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That would be called "extraordinary rendition" and considered a "war crime" by liberal Europeans and left-wing Americans. Why should Western countries be held criminally liable, if they turn over Muslims to their native land? Is it the fault of the US, Canada, Europe or Australia that torture and beheadings are part of Saudi culture?
at October 29, 2007 1:42 PM
If I understand the concept of "extraordinary rendition," it is the capture of suspects at large and transporting them to a third party for interrogation. The action proposed in my earlier comment is repatriation only. No information is required of the families, so there cannot possibly be any pretext for their mistreatment by their Moslem correligionists. But their continued presence in the country provides a security risk or at least an insult to freedom-loving citizens. Take the Khadr family in Canada as an example. Take them please.
Thus Western-born Moslems associated with terrorist criminals remain by nature of their religion a member of the Ummah and de facto dual-nationals. Let the Saudis have them.
Posted by: Chatillon at October 29, 2007 2:25 PM
"AUSTRALIA faces a "London-type bombing" if relations between Muslims and the intelligence and police authorities do not improve"
Wow!
Reminds me of a notice some prankster fixed to the office noticeboard..
"The floggings will continue until morale improves."
Posted by: Monty at October 29, 2007 3:28 PM
Sunday Islamic School is held every Sunday at the Lewis & Clark middle school from 10am to 1:30pm. Please contact board member Sr. Rana Cheema for more information.
Wow, using a public school as a mosque.
at October 29, 2007 3:46 PM
Churches have been know to use schools too.
A school can use a church building but all religious symbols must be covered.
Posted by: pvb at October 29, 2007 3:58 PM
Islam and democracy can not coexist, they have 2 choices, 1)shut the hell up and live by the law of the country you are in or 2) these clowns can go back to whatever holes they crawled out of.
Last thing we need in the West is this vermin bringing us down with their backasswards thinking.
Posted by: Stinkyinfidel at October 29, 2007 4:41 PM
Sounds a lot like 'the beatings will continue until morale improves.'
Posted by: s at October 29, 2007 4:58 PM
"Let me make you an offer you can't refuse."
Cue Italian sounding music.
Posted by: Odyessus at October 29, 2007 5:26 PM
They have the threats all backwards. If the Muslim population in Australia cannot assimilate and contribute to the welfare of Australian society, and to date there is virtually no evidence that they can, then the Cronulla riots are just a gentle prelude to what is to inevitably come.
The Australian experience with the violence of Islamic imperialism is quite tangible. 12 October is now an Australian national day of remembrance and even after nearly a century, the ANZAC sacrifice at the hands of the Turks at Gallipoli is solemnly commemorated every 25th of April.
The clock is ticking and the Australians that I visited with just two weeks after the Cronulla riots are fast losing their patience. There is a very deep river of suspicion and sense of the inevitable violence to come running through the Australian society today. But you won't see it in the papers or the telly. It's the sort of thing you will hear universally along with every shared ice cold Boag's. The winter is just about spent in Australia and the summer "festivities" of this famously beach oriented culture are about to begin again.
Posted by: SaracensAtTheGates at October 29, 2007 5:52 PM
The Australian people obviously don't have a problem with the police.
The only people that have a probelm are the muslims...this is further example that muslims CANNOT integrate into Western civilizations.
Muslims want isolation and elevation. So, how can a society ever see them as equal?
at October 29, 2007 6:56 PM
The Australian people obviously don't have a problem with the police.alaskan1000
Yes we do. The police in NSW are hopeless, so are the Victorians. They have been emasculated and conform to the PC mantra.
Posted by: Gramfan at October 29, 2007 8:09 PM
The Aborigines have been treated like crap, murdered at times in history by the dominant groups, and suffer lots of trouble with the police. Do they bomb? No ... they have more civility than the Muslims.
Expulsion is the way you deal with an inherently violent religion like Islam. I'm sure as immigrants they suffer their share of crap, but then so do lots of other groups. Other groups, like Chinese Buddhists don't threaten to kill people. Muslims do because their religion is violent and supremacist. It is not from God.
Posted by: James Martel at October 29, 2007 8:42 PM
I'm afraid as well.
Does that make me an Islamophobe?
Posted by: tanstaafl at October 29, 2007 8:45 PM
They do mean business.
You got to know that these young men are just hanging around, with nothing to do - just like any other gang members. They have no jobs, not much education - if any - are of no benefit to any society or to themselves. They re the 1st that should be taken in a wide sweep of the area by the Western authorities and put on community service - digging ditches, planting, those kind of backbreaking jobs.
Get them away from their pas and the clerics who keep incenting them to violence. Like those delinquents that are sent to prison camps. That will not only settle them right down, but will teach them ways to earn a living ( maybe).
Posted by: allat at October 29, 2007 8:59 PM
"I favor a third option-stop immigration and exile all known troublemakers until there are no more hotheads around to cause trouble and submission is no longer an option at all."
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS October 29, 2007 10:21 AM
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There was a short article -- snippets, really -- in our local paper Sunday (which I've been unable to find online, thus can't link to) regarding how the MSM and European politicos view the "alarmists" and "nationalists" and "extreme right-wingers" who are calling for an end to Muslim immigration to their countries, who want work preferences for natives (not foreigners), who call for more "police presence" in Muslim-settled areas and stronger enforcement of public disturbance laws. The gist of their thinking seems to be that criticizing any immigrant group publicly will inevitably lead to ostracism, denunciations, state-sponsored murder, and the rise of a new group of super-nationalists (think Nazis) who will dump Europe back into a new, more monstrous version of WWII.
Is there a way to reframe the problem that Western civilization has with Islamic immigration? Right now the MSM and Eurabian bureaucrats present it as "The full power of the State must be engaged to protect the rights of this beleaguered religious group in the face of unwarranted hostility from our unenlightened, bigoted populace (and from our hate-mongering opponents who seek to win more power in the upcoming elections)."
As long as the MSM/ liberals/ bureaucrats can sell the idea that (1) "we're on God's side, demonstrating our society's inclusiveness and tolerance" and (2) "these rabid right wingers are sowing hate and fear in order to get the votes of narrow minded bigots", we who believe unreformed Islam is a threat to everything we hold dear will find our point of view demonized and disregarded.
How can WE become a "voice of reason" instead of a "voice of intolerance"? Do we just have to wait until it gets so bad, all over, that even the liberals have to acknowledge there's a problem?
at October 29, 2007 9:09 PM
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={3DC049A1-CE0D-4557-A3B7-2AD9C7BED66B}
at October 29, 2007 10:38 PM
"You got to know that these young men are just hanging around, with nothing to do - just like any other gang members. They have no jobs, not much education - if any - are of no benefit to any society or to themselves."
Astonishing how the ruling elites of ALL of the Western nations have completely abandoned any sense of national pride. Not only do we let them in, we put them on the dole and leave them with plenty of time and material comfort to plot and seethe.
Until we recognize Islam as a borderless State, we have no hope of confronting the threat. And because there is an utter lack of Self, coupled with a completely flacid response to the obvious assault upon our way of life, the inevitable confrontation that will occur when these realities finally crush through the thick skull of the West grows uglier by the day.
"Peace through strength," as Ronald Reagan used to say. And of course he was vilified by all the "smart" people.
Posted by: JohnAdams at October 30, 2007 12:11 AM
It really amounts to a good cop/bad cop scenario when dealing with many "moderates." Australia will survive the PERSONAL jerk-off(ie: a "divine" interpretation of the "divine" revelation) which useful tools such as this man constantly sprout, regardless of the weather.
Posted by: kafir world at October 30, 2007 12:35 AM
Immigration policy is an out of control trainwreck, nobody can bring themselves to hit the brakes. We will continue to lurch from crisis to crisis, and the decision to end islamic immigration will happen as much of the West has already collapsed into civil war and anarchy.
Thats the good news.
Posted by: savitch at October 30, 2007 1:20 AM
More "or else" threats. People need to learn that you give islam an inch and it will take your country. NO NEGOTIATING WITH TERRORISTS.
Having said that, Howard, the Aussie prime minister is at least not a craven coward like the British politicians, who bend over backwards to ignore the threat as long as their safety and position is assured. After all, it's only our chldren that die in the terror attacks, not theirs.
Posted by: DaveMate at October 30, 2007 3:49 AM
...allowing Muslims into NonMuslim countries has proven to be an effort in futility and a mistake...ban Muslim Immigration....
Posted by: exsgtbrown at October 30, 2007 6:38 AM
New Acronym:
CURPOWCYH = Call Us a Religion of Peace Or We Chop off Your Heads! Pronounced cur-pow-sigh
Cur, because they act like mad dogs.
Pow, because they like blowing things up.
Sigh, because that's all our leadership does about it.
at October 30, 2007 7:18 AM
New Acronym:
CURPOWCYH = Call Us a Religion of Peace Or We Chop off your Heads!
CUR= They act like mad dogs.
POW = They like blowing up things.
SIGH = They bore us to tears before we trash them.
Posted by: Kepha at October 30, 2007 7:19 AM
If what this weasel says comes true, the Aussie citizen will take the law into their own hands and deal with the Islamists. The cops, doped into non action by the PC elitists, will choose sides defending their culture and breed against the onslaught of Islamic violence or adhering to the "hands off" policy regarding Muslims. The beach riots of yesterday was just a hint of what will happen. The Aussie backbone will appear and the jellyfish leaders will be swept aside in dealing with the Islamist threat fully exposed. It will be jail or a one way ticket back to the Islamist hell hole that they came from. Much good will come to Australia if these parasites do what the threaten to do.
Posted by: Briars at October 30, 2007 7:38 AM
"The beach riots of yesterday was just a hint of what will happen."
i'm itching for the backlash.
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at October 30, 2007 9:10 AM
Yes, bombs. Well, that will improve relations dramatically!
Posted by: Miss_Anthrope at October 30, 2007 9:26 AM
muslimsareevil
this is how the muslims are treated by our "nazi" government, go google "islamberg". read it and weep.
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at October 31, 2007 9:44 AM
...and ultimatum by any other name...
at November 1, 2007 7:59 PM
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