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November 9, 2007

Sure, Infidel, I'll give you that urban, funky look

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Bushra Noah

Sarah Desrosiers may have to close her business because of this -- that is a simple injustice.

"Hairdresser is sued for refusing a job to woman in a headscarf," by Martin Bentham and Anna Davis in the Evening Standard (thanks to all who sent this in):

The owner of an "alternative" London hair salon is being sued for religious discrimination after refusing to give a job to a Muslim woman who wanted to wear a headscarf at work.

Sarah Desrosiers, whose Wedge salon specialises in "urban funky" cuts, says she turned down applicant Bushra Noah because she was "selling image" and needed her staff to display their hairstyles to the public.

Ms Noah, 19, is claiming religious discrimination and suing Ms Desrosiers for more than £15,000 for injury to her feelings, as well as an unspecified sum for lost earnings.

Ms Desrosiers, 32, who set up her business in King's Cross 18 months ago, has already spent more than £1,000 fighting the case and says that if she loses she will be forced to close.

She denies any discrimination and says she rejected Ms Noah because she was unwilling to show her hair at work.

"I sell image - it's very important - and I would expect a hair stylist to display her hair because I need people to be drawn in off the street," said Ms Desrosiers. "It's the nature and style of my salon that brings people in and someone having their hair covered conflicts with that. If someone came in wearing a baseball hat or a cowboy hat I'd tell them to take it off while they're working. To me, it's absolutely basic that people should be able to see the stylist's hair."

Is there something wrong with this reasoning? This case should be thrown out of court immediately: Desrosiers's action was not motivated by religious discrimination, but by simple business sense. That too, most likely, must give way today to political correctness.

In a legal letter setting out her employment tribunal case, Ms Noah, from Acton, claims she was discriminated against and treated rudely at her interview in March and wrongly turned down for a job she was capable of doing because of her headscarf.

Ms Noah said today she had attended a total of 25 interviews for hairdressing jobs without success and had decided to take legal action because she had been upset by Ms Desrosiers' comments. She said: "I decided to sue this hairdresser because she upset me the most. I felt so down and got so depressed, I thought if I am not going to defend myself, who is?

"When I spoke to her on the phone she offered me a trial day. But when I turned up she looked at me in shock. She asked if I wore the headscarf all the time. She kept repeating, 'I wish you told me over the phone'.

Sounds reasonable to me.

"Ever since I was in high school hairdressing is what I wanted to do. It is sad for them to not give me the opportunity. This has ruined my ambitions. Wearing a headscarf is essential to my beliefs."

Ms Desrosiers said she was struggling to find money to contest the hearing, scheduled for January. She said: "I'm being dragged through the mud and pretty much accused of being a racist. I feel it is totally unfair and wrong."

Join the club, Ms. Desrosiers.

Posted by Robert at November 9, 2007 6:43 AM
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"I felt so down and got so depressed"

....You are a Muslim and I can Understand....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 7:01 AM

"I'm not here to accommodate your religious beliefs. I am running a business, not a religious community"


Words to live by

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 7:03 AM

"Ever since I was in high school I wanted to run my fingers through and cut the dirty infidels hair."

Bull crap. Legal jihad opportunism. Pure and simple.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 7:21 AM

The muslim girl will win and the hairdresser will go out of business. Bet on it.

Posted by: ranoir [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 7:24 AM

I wish the defense attorney would question her about her "deeply held relligious beliefs about jahiliyya, and ask if any of her attempts to gain employment were at muslim men's hair salons.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 7:27 AM

"...her employment tribunal case..."

I wonder if this means Ms. Noah's legal bills are being paid by the government. I wouldn't be surprised.

Tax-funded grievance suits enforcing sharia?

What kind of message does this send to society at large? Wait, we already know the answer to that one.

I hope Ms. Desrosiers wins and that she is reimbursed for her legal bills.

Posted by: Josephine [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 7:31 AM

About 10 years ago my mother's hairdresser, and shop owner, got a strange phone call from a woman asking about a job vacancy. Ann was confused because she didn't have a vacancy. Ann explained that there was a mistake, she had not advertised for help and how did this woman come to think a job was on offer. Ann never got an answer to her question. In spite of this, Ann took the woman's name and phone number and promised her an interview if a vacancy came up.

A couple of weeks later Ann got a letter from a solicitor of the caller stating she was being sued for not giving his client a job because she was a muslim. The owner went to a solicitor and explained. Ann's solicitor was so angry at this that he fired off a letter and informed the police of this attempted extortion. Nothing more was heard from the job seeker.

It seems this goes on a lot. Minorities will go after a job they are unqualified for or do something to ensure they are not offered the job and then threaten to sue for racism. A lot of people pay a few thousand rather than risk the cost of a court case. This case sounds like another extortion attempt.

Posted by: clipper [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 7:34 AM

My question is... why would someone who believes all women should cover their hair WANT to be a hairdresser? Isn't this a contradiction?

What's the point? No one outside her home is going to see her hair. And, if a person doesnt need to style their own personal hair every day, would she be any good styling other people's hair?

And isn't hairstyling (esp. the "alternative" styles done by this shop) a reflection of decadent Western Culture?

Unbelievable!

Posted by: StephenDvd [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 7:36 AM

I expect there is hairstyling in the Muslim world for middle class women who want to look nice for their husbands and lady friends. Anyone know how hairstyling businesses work there? Perhaps women employees go without hair covering because only women customers are allowed in.

Posted by: sceptico [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 7:45 AM

I think in this particular case the Muslim woman does have a point: you don't need to have visible hairstyle corresponding to the salon's profile, visible hair, or indeed any hair at all to be a good hairdresser, and I don't think salons should treat their hairdressers as decorations.

I know most people here disapprove of hijab, and so do I, but think about this: should it be ok for a bald person to work as a hairdresser? For a white hairdresser with Caucasian hair to work in a salon specializing in Black hair? For a person who prefers wearing his/her natural hair color to work in a salon specializing in funky colors?

Posted by: Vera [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 7:52 AM

clipper -- Wow. You hit the nail on the head: it's extortion.

Posted by: Josephine [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 8:12 AM

Vera, you miss the point. Ms Desrosiers ought to have a choice who she employs. Simple. She exercised her right of running her own business in the interests of the business: to not choose someone wearing a scarf over their hair. It ought to be her choice. And Ms Noah ought to be sued for being 'offended'.

Posted by: dlp [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 8:17 AM

Boy, if this works I've got a great idea for closing down all the strip clubs and houses of ill repute. Have some nice religious (Jew, Christian, Muslim, whatever) ladies appl for work. When they get fired for refusing to take of their clothes/have sex with strangers, they can sue the joints and shut them down.

Posted by: Archimedes2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 8:35 AM

This case should be thrown out of court by an hysterically laughing judge. Unbelievable.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 8:44 AM

So what happens when she is giving a customer a perm and the timer goes off, but she is off doing her wudu? Does someone else need to finish her work? Or does the client get their hair melted?

I would be curious to know if she has EVER actually worked as a hairdresser? Is she fresh out of school, or does she have experience? If she was working, what happened at her last job?

And with all the muslim ghettos out there, couldn't she find work in a muslim area?

Sounds like she is looking for trouble.

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 8:49 AM
Vera: I know most people here disapprove of hijab, and so do I,

Well, I for one don't. A hijab is just a headscarf and under normal circumstances is not objectionable in any way. In a hot climate it may be a health hazard, running power tools it may be a safety issue, and in a place of employment that requires employees to display their hair, it violates the basic job conditions, and in these situtations it is reasonable to curtail its use.

The niqab is another story. While I do not think it should be made illegal there are quite a number of further situations in which it would be highly inappropriate, such as in teaching, in police or fire work, counselling, politicians or public speaking, or in any form of legal consultation, by professional legal workers or by their clients. Anywhere that one's clear identity or direct, human contact is essential to he basic job.

Although I understand why Turkey has banned the hijab, and insofar as it becomes the badge of an ideological movement banning it should be considered as fair game in, say, public schools as wearing gang colors, I don't think it should be banned across the board in government buildings. But I do think the niqab should be, at least for government employees.

The burqa should be banned outright in public places for safety reasons, and to discourage the spread of the misogynist culture behind it. While the hijab and the niqab can be either forms of oppression (in a mysogynist culture) or empowerment (in a secular setting where they are worn as badges of one's ideology), the burqa is dehumanizing to a much higher degree, and can be used to cloak those committing criminal or terrorist acts. It does not belong in our society.

Posted by: Archimedes2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 8:53 AM

This is no different than Old Navy demanding its workers wear their cloths. This is legal jihad pure and simple.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 8:55 AM

I'm with ImNoDhimmi on this one. She needs to be sucker-punched just like she's trying to do to Sarah Desrosiers. Fair is fair.

The only possible angle on anyone having mercy on Noah is that she was probably told to do this by either her husband or her father. Maybe a conspiracy to commit extortion investigation is in order, eh?

These are a people who are nothing but whiners and liars and manipulators. T.E. Lawrence said of them that, if they were left alone without Anglo supervision, they set to killing one another within ten minutes.

I say we give 'em the ten minutes and see what happens.

Posted by: undaunted [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 9:23 AM

She's hideous. A burkah would be preferable.

Posted by: Celsius [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 9:26 AM

Yes, I very much agree with others that this Muslim maiden is on a "fishing expedition".

And thank you, dlp, for defending what should be a private business owner's right to hire (and fire)whomever they choose. But see, that's the problem; that right has been so eroded over time that come a situation like this, fraught with deeper worries perhaps, and the rug's already been pulled out from under said owner.

Here's another example: currently, on the Staten Island Ferry, there are a couple of preachers who harass commuters daily with loud proselytizing. Many folks are complaining to the city, the press, the police, etc. However, out of fear of transgressing the preachers' "right to free speech" (yes, that is the defense) city minions feel all they can do is tell the preachers to "keep moving" while ranting. Guess what? Should imams start to walk the decks espousing jihad, the principle will have been affirmed - they have a right to do so! (Can't wait. I'm sure it will come, eventually.)

Posted by: Vee [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 9:31 AM

"Ever since I was in high school hairdressing is what I wanted to do. It is sad for them to not give me the opportunity. This has ruined my ambitions. Wearing a headscarf is essential to my beliefs."


I just find it ironic that a woman whose life goal is to be a hairdresser feels the need to cover her hair at all times in public.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 9:49 AM

If the woman is really a hairdresser there are numerous Muslim women's hair salons where she could work. Her head covering says to her clientel 'you are all a bunch of infidel whores'. It is a scam for money.

Posted by: poetcomic1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 9:52 AM

Koran uber alles.
It doesn't get more dhimmified than that.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 9:53 AM

Sarah Desrosiers should counter sue Ms Bushra Noah for harrasment, mental anguish and financial hardship.

Fire fighters stop big fires by starting small controlled fires. If they sue, we sue.

We can sue Muslims who go for hajj for religious apaertheid!

We can sue Muslimas in burqas/headscarf for scaring us and our kids!

Muslims are behaving like toddlers - they are testing how far they can make us bend backwards. Fortunately, we all know how parents stop the toddler tantrums!

Posted by: Proud Woman [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 9:58 AM

Islam that Complete (or Compleat) System of Regulation, does not overlook hairstyles or what is to be done with facial and other kinds of hair. Qaradawi has some piquant words on the subject in his Handbook of Halal and Haram. Women, for example, should not do up their hair in the style of a camel's hump (presumably, the bouffant hairdo that immediately demands Courreges white boots to go with it)spells out all the hairstyles that are haram in Islam. Given this, and given the likelihood that all kinds of offensive hairstyles might be offered -- and who knows? Perhaps some of those who might want them would be Muslim-for-identification-purposes-only Muslims, who would be inhibited by the presence of a Muslim, a Believer, on the staff who might be a potential enforcer of the code (making a Muslim version of a Citizen's Arrest), or possibly someone who might report a straying Muslimah's behavior to that Muslimah's family. Anything is possible. Work in an Infidel hairdressing salon, run by an Infidel, for a largely Infidel clientele, makes no sense, makes as little sense as a Muslim attempting to get a job at a restaurant that serves not only fried chicken and grits and hushpuppies but all kinds of ham, in all kinds of sauces. Wouldn't an employer sense trouble, and wouldn't that employer be wise not to employ a Muslim in a restaurant where pork is part of every second order? And if that applicant is turned down, no doubt knowing perfectly well why he should be turned down (knowing exactly what trouble he might cause later on, if he were to be hired) should he, that deliberately trouble-making Muslim applicant, attempting to milk the American system for all it's worth, not only not get what he thinks he can squeeze out of that system, but be hit with the equivalent of a SLAPP suit for his deliberate and malevolent mischief making?

When this girl tried to get a job -- was she put up to it, by the way? Any evidence that it was purely her idea? -- in an English hair salon, she was asking for trouble. Asking for trouble, as the Italians say, in tutte le salse.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 10:37 AM

Methinks this is a just an attempt to close down what islam regards as an "immoral" activity -- i.e. attractive hair-styling.
(Something that islamic-law in Iran has already banned!)

Posted by: Infidel419 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 10:42 AM

My religion (Locks-ism) says I should pull women's scarfs off their heads.

If this little economic jihadi tries to stop me, can I sue her for religious discrimination against my beliefs?

The employer is looking for someone who fits their shop's hairstyle image.

And, since she is selling hairstyles, it is an essential requirement.

Economic Jihadi Girl doesn't fit the style.

Case closed.

And EJG pays the court costs.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 10:44 AM

There is definitly a good cartoon somewhere in this ridiculous lawsuit.

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 10:57 AM

"uptight" over at HotAir posted his own photoshopped re-hairstyling of the Economic Jihadi Girl that Mr. Spencer may want to ask uptight's permission to post above to show what she should really look like to apply for such a job.

Here's the link:

http://i12.tinypic.com/6wp9cwk.jpg

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 11:04 AM

If that smirking witch allow her moustache to grow just a little more, she'll look like Groucho Marx.

Posted by: MP [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 11:10 AM

profitsbeard -

That's a really good makeover! You should post it at the original story article. Maybe she will see it and give up that miserable religion.

It's still too tame for a 'funky hairstyling salon.

It's there some rule against plucking eyebrows in islam? And some rule against getting hair done?

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 11:35 AM

Maybe she should go into selling scarfs? The defense attorney should have the right to interview all 25 other salons that apparenly turned her down for a job. Maybe she can develope a hair style that looks good under a scarf.
Since she is trying to be a good practicing Muslim by abiding by her faith, she cannot be friends with any of her infidel/unbeliever clients, she also has a responsibility to try and convert her infidel/unbeliever boss and clients over to Islam,her hairstyles must comport with the practices of Islamic women. What you say? that may chase customers away?

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 11:42 AM

I am keen to know who is funding Ms Noah's lawsuit.

This little factoid may tell us a little more about the case.

Posted by: A Nonny Nonny [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 11:50 AM

OT-

http://www.cphpost.dk/get/104307.html

Trying to make the muslims happy.

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 12:17 PM

I'd like to sue her for being a typical annoying Islamaniac.

Funky looking devil too-looks sort of like Ben Stein, only not as good.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 12:21 PM

Are those her real eyebrows?

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 12:29 PM

Another OT -

More Saudi funding for mosque.

http://www.thelocal.se/9021/

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 12:31 PM

There needs to be an interntional fund to support people whao are targets of these lawsuits.

I would start one, but all my money is tied up in food, shelter, and clothing.

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 12:32 PM

Celsius wrote:

She's hideous. A burkah would be preferable.

You read my mind.

Posted by: US_infidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 12:37 PM

On the other hand, this woman, being a hair dresser, especially in trendy, progressive London, and one that specializes in progressive "funky styles" at that, would no doubt be of the ilk that naturally thinks of islam as a great religion, Christianity as an oppressive cult, and America as an abomination to world peace. Prior to this experience with this job seeker, I'm sure the salon owner never had a bad thought about islam, or a good thought about those opposing it.

Until now, when reality just came in the door and hit her on the head.

Me thinks there is one less leftist in the universe. Which is a good thing. And all it took was for the personal interest of the leftist to meet islam face on.

What is it that is said? A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged?

Posted by: jihadwatcher [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 12:38 PM

VERA:
"should it be ok for a bald person to work as a hairdresser? For a white hairdresser with Caucasian hair to work in a salon specializing in Black hair? For a person who prefers wearing his/her natural hair color to work in a salon specializing in funky colors?"

Actually, the article says this is an "alternative" salon. So, yes, it should be ok for a bald person (think "alternative" singer Sinead OConner circa late 1980s!), or "funky colors". This fits in with an "alternative" salon.

On the other hand, I could see some more conservative salons not hiring a bald woman or someone with a glow-in-the-dark green mohawk. Its what makes sense to their business.

Also, this is not a moslem "women only" establishment... so the idea that she would uncover her head within the shop is not likely. And what would her next step be after getting hired? Force her employer to make the shop "women only" (ie not allow boyfriends/husbands to enter the premesis or waiting area)?

This was obviously a scam for money, and the case should be thrown out as meritless!

Posted by: StephenDvd [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 12:56 PM

Q: Is there any prescribe style for hair cutting in Islam?

A: At the outset, it must be pointed out that it is not permissible for females to cut their hair. Males may shave their hair or cut it evenly. It is not permissible to adopt any hair style of non-Muslims.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=575

Posted by: pez [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 12:57 PM

"Ms Noah said today she had attended a total of 25 interviews for hairdressing jobs without success "


...AT least 25 potential employers are wise....do not hire Muslims....

Ban Muslim Immigration..

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 1:12 PM

...are you sure this is a woman?....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 1:19 PM

A bit like going to a manicurist who has bitten off all of her finger nails.

That woman should be watched.

Posted by: Armoured Passionfruit [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 1:26 PM

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=89764964


send sarah a message of support on myspace!

she needs all the help she can get.

this is not about religious "discrimination" this is about cultural islamic imperialism.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 1:29 PM

that muslim had no place working at a "funky" alternative hair salon like that, this is a set up people. go check out sarahs salon, check out hte pics of hte salon and see if the muslim wouldve fitted in.

sarah needs a good attorney because she has a good case in her favour. why would a muslim want to work there its so not islamic.

set up.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 1:31 PM

hold on! i hadnt read all this article, so she is suing for not getting a job at the salon???

dear god, please, what has happened to england and the english?

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 1:35 PM

this would be like someone applying for a job at a tattoo parlor as a tattoist and not being tattoed themselves.

why doesn't the young woman open her own salon and target the Muslim community.

oh wait that's why she's suing. She needs to raise capital and this is the easiest way to do it.

Posted by: pak152 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 1:43 PM

Ms Noah said today she had attended a total of 25 interviews for hairdressing jobs without success and had decided to take legal action because she had been upset big damn deal I have put in over a hundred applications and spite having over 10 years experience as a security officer a gun or a hundred turned down because I'm in a power wheelchair and what I've been applying for a static security positions this person should try living the way I have to I have no sympathy for her I apply for jobs knowing that some physical activity I capable of in her case she would have to know that he would have to show her bare head to customers with the hairstyles and shop uses

Posted by: mowasaperv [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 2:12 PM

She should countersue for slander. With Britain's messed up tort law, merely filing the case would put Noah in a world of hurt.

Posted by: Peter_Wiggin [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 2:51 PM

Even if Sarah Desrosiers the owner of the 'alternative' hairdressing salon had employed Bushra Noah she could have had problems if Ms Noah had wanted to wash her feet in the salon's lavatory or wash basins not to mention with ritually washing out her nose prior to her prayer observances. Then there's the jug of water and the left hand for a certain ablution (instead of lavatory paper).

However, in the end it was entirely Sarah Desrosiers's choice whether or not she wanted to employ a girl in a headscarf who had been previously been turned down for 25 jobs.

I understand that Ms Noah trained as a hairdresser at Ealing College, North West London. Presumably no-one in either the careers advice department or the hairdressing school had the sense to warn her that it might, just might, put potential employers off if she couldn't show her hair. Her NVQ course was probably funded by British tax-payers, as I suspect will be her attempts to sue the unfortunate salon owner.

Another day, another Muslim headline in the British media.


Posted by: moris2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 3:05 PM

I wouldn't ever let her touch my hair.


Posted by: Kybeline [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 3:07 PM

Are those her real eyebrows?

Posted by: Pelayo


Is that her real smirk?

Posted by: Mike_W [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 3:08 PM

Posted by: StephenDvd at November 9, 2007 7:36 AM
"My question is... why would someone who believes all women should cover their hair WANT to be a hairdresser? Isn't this a contradiction?"

The problem is, that most moslem women have only a couple of jobs, that they can do - partly because they are noch smart enough to study, and partly because their religion forbids them: nurse, waitress, etc.

So many of them learn heardresser. I know of a school, where half of the learning heardressers are moslem girls. But who should be their customers, as so many moslem women wear scarfes and many non-moslems don't like to go to them?

Posted by: Kybeline [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 3:15 PM

@#&#*+%#@*!!! WHAT IS THE PROBLEM ???
Solicitors/barristers/lawyers have to start creating new statutes to establish precedence. That means they have to now fight like hell in court to win so that in the future, when morons like this chic start their crap, it will be easier to rule in favor of the defendant.

Posted by: ElizaDoolittle [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 3:16 PM

If this suit were filed in the US it would most likely not get very far. The shop owner has made a legitimate business related case for not hiring her. Think back, Hooters prevailed in a civil rights complaint concerning hiring less that attractive waitresses.

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 3:24 PM

Part of my earlier post was deleted. I have rephrased it.

I'd like to wipe that superior little smirk off her face.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 3:26 PM

Mike W, that looks like a real Muslim smirk.

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 3:29 PM

Funny how adherents of this faith/ideology tend to emulate their ancestors behavior toward infidels whenever they feel slighted. Twenty-five interviews. Make no mistake about it, this entire charade was planned from the get go. The art of victimization cultivated.

Posted by: We need G.C. Scott [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 3:31 PM

Hellish bint.

Posted by: Mike_W [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 3:39 PM

So none of the other 24 places she applied have hired her either. Why not? Is she suing them too?

Posted by: ebonystone [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 4:16 PM

In the USA, one defense to allegations of discrimination in the work place is to raise certain "bona fide occupational qualifications" (BFOQs). As an example, if a person applied for a job as a firefighter, but failed to demonstrate the requisite body strength to do the job, the fire department would rely on the necessity of body strength as a BFOQ to overcome an allegation of discrimination by the applicant.

Don't know how the law is in the UK, but I hope that a sane judge agrees with Ms. Desrosiers that how a hairstylist appears is a BFOQ for a hair salon.

Posted by: Darius LaMonica [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 4:22 PM

Found these two articles over at Ummah News Links:

http://ummahnewslinks.com/2006/06/21/hairstyling-between-the-stereotype-and-the-needs-of-modern-life.aspx

http://ummahnewslinks.com/2007/02/08/hairdressing-a-trade-looked-down-upon-in-saudi-society.aspx

By the way, does anybody know why the owner of that site hasn't posted anything in over a month?

Just curious...

Posted by: Aiken Bryce [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 4:49 PM

At what point can Western society just laugh at these irrational people? It is comedy that a Muslim woman who refuses to take off her headscarf, because it hides her hair which Muslims consider nudity, wants to be a hairdresser! It is like something out of a South Park episode.

http://grizzlymountain.blogspot.com/

Posted by: GrizzlyMountain [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 4:49 PM

Hey... That "Dude Looks Like a Lady"

If I went to my spa/salon and ... oh nevermind.

Posted by: Laughs_at_Silly_Jihadis [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 5:11 PM

Oh, I also noticed she's trying to sport a Hounds Tooth pattern with a mismatched scarf..

/wench!

Posted by: Laughs_at_Silly_Jihadis [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 5:16 PM

Awwww, this stinks. It has Islamist shakedown written all over it.

The article states:

"Ms Noah said today she had attended a total of 25 interviews for hairdressing jobs without success".

25 face-to-face interviews, 25 rejections. OK...

"When I spoke to her on the phone she offered me a trial day. But when I turned up she looked at me in shock... she kept repeating, 'I wish you told me over the phone'."

Of course she wasn't going to tell you over the phone, Ms Desrosiers. All she wanted was to secure the trial day, then turn up in person and hope to get rejected in order to launch the legal claim. Haven't we seen this pattern before with school uniforms?

If the hairdresser loses it will be an appalling decision, but at least the publicity will drive the image of Muslim scam artists constantly testing the limits of our society's tolerance into the minds of millions more people who are as yet still unconvinced as to the reality of the Islamist onslaught.

Posted by: Matamoros [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 7:28 PM

First of all, out of 25 knockbacks she only takes on one?

Why not bring discrimination charges against the other 24?

As for hairdressing and muslim women, she should look for work in a muslim women's salon. They exist.

We have them here in Melbournistan, with blacked out windows so that no men or infidels can look in, and the women can take off their hijabs in peace and seclusion.

Ms Noah would have no difficulties fitting in to a salon like that.

Posted by: L.Drummond [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 8:12 PM

£15,000 for injury to feelings? ms noah should in my oppion be taken out and given the punishment her religionand the Koran and saria law for all thifes she is misusinglaws that were put in place to be to aid the disabled and other minorities they were not put in place reward people for following Old Bedouin customs. But then the Islams perfect manand so-called profit over the same sort of behavior extorting money from his victims like it's not surprising that she would try to pull off this scam

Posted by: mowasaperv [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 8:44 PM

Muslim woman have their own beauty salons (really!) that are women-only and where they can get their hair done and made up for their husbands or for women-only parties or God only knows what; this young woman could have easily gotten a job at one of them., especially in Londonistan. That she didn't go that route says something; this has all the signs of being yet another Flying-Imams-style stunt.

Next thing you know, there'll be mothers insisting on their right to send 5-year-olds to kindergarten in floor-length burqas.

Posted by: angloirishslav [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 8:51 PM

Vee wrote: "Here's another example: currently, on the Staten Island Ferry, there are a couple of preachers who harass commuters daily with loud proselytizing."

With aggressive preachers of any religious stripe, I have a standard response:

You have the right to preach to me, and I have the right to tell you to get the hell out of my face, repeatedly, for as long as it takes until you leave me alone. No lawsuits for "hurt feelings." Understood?

Posted by: angloirishslav [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 9:00 PM

angloirishslav

are you in the USA?

you would have much more power if you became a US citizen. i got mine this year and can vote, petition and be more of a participant in this great nation. (i can still vote in the UK but we'll keep that quiet).

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 9:38 PM

This woman is absolutely scary! There's nothing appealing about her. Yes, if I went to that hair salon - I'd stay away from her.

And an important point - what would this woman have to talk about with the client - while she's styling their hair? Customer and stylist do talk together - inane things, but they do talk.

Perhaps the islamic wants to convert the customers? Use the conversational time to convince the non-moslems about the "benefits" of islam?

Think of it, one wouldn't have to keep styling one's hair!

Posted by: allat [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 10:45 PM

*snip* *snip* *snip* *snip* *plop*

"Ooooh, kafir, sorry about the ear".

Posted by: Mike_W [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 9, 2007 11:13 PM

if she's as devout , a Muslim and she's trying to play what is she doing touching infidels hair because the Muslims consider any part of an infidel body be to be unclean and they have to undergo ritual purification I believe before before they can enter a mosque or pray is nothing more than a scam when similar to what Islam's pervert founder of the cult of Islam pulled on manyinfidels

Posted by: mowasaperv [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 10, 2007 12:12 AM

We will see a lot more of this in England in the days to come. With the likes of Prince Charles apologizing for Islam and every British official bending over and picking up the soap in front of Muslims these people believe that they have already taken over. Now it is incumbent on them to clean up and force Sharia and dhimmitude on the native born populace. If England is now part of Dar-al-Islam then there can be no women doing business out in public and certainly not any that make woem look attractive. Remember, just like laughter and love, there is no physical beauty allowed in Islam, as the picture above will attest.

Some Imam at the local super mosque told this dim bulb to pursue the lawsuit, just like our favorite little whining school assistant who went to her interview unveiled but then showed up for work in her full on Hefty bag, about a year ago.

Pez has an interesting point from his post above at 12:57 PM regarding the mufti's answer about women not being allowed to cut their hair. If this is true, and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best, then working at the Funky Chunky hair salon would be haram and Ms. Noah would be in danger of punishment from the local Sharia thought police. Now we know that Imams allow lying (taqiyyah) to further the spread of Islam but do they allow what is haram to further it?

No, I think that these Smuglims (smug Muslims) believe that it's all down hill from there and they are in the process of forcing non-Muslim women into the same hell hole existence that their's exist in.

Is there anyone on this site from England who is or knows a good barrister who could take on this case pro bono and counter sue old snaggle puss? One with a friend who works in PR and could expose the crap these people do, just like Robert has done with CAIR?

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 10, 2007 12:49 AM

"Wearing a headscarf is essential to my beliefs."

NOT wearing a headscarf is essential to MY beliefs!

Why should your way trump my way, especially in MY country?!

Posted by: alexon [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 10, 2007 1:59 AM

What happens if a muslim woman wanted to be a runway model, but insisted on wearing a headscarf? I have no doubt that there will be a lawsuit over that, one day.

Posted by: Voltaire [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 10, 2007 2:39 AM

Well, in an update, the lady Sarah will be holding a fundraiser fairly soon. Just called her salon and she has apprently received many messages of support for her predicament.

Heres hoping the fundraiser goes well.

Posted by: carpediadem [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 10, 2007 6:11 AM

What nonsense…

I am from Australia living in Indonesia (a Muslim majority country) and have just shown my hairdresser girlfriend this article. She works for a major chain in this country and I asked her opinion on this and what she thought the company would likely say in the event of someone wearing or wishing to wear a headscarf at work.

She said that they would not take it off they would be asked to leave. I also asked if they could go to any independent body or court to try to fight this.
She replied “of course not, this might happen in your country but here if you wish to work you must comply with the dress standards as set out by your employer”.

This girl has more rights as a Muslima in the UK than she could hope for in Indonesia.

When will we wake up from this dangerous PC madness?

Posted by: squadcarbob [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 10, 2007 6:44 AM

Let's face it. The Muslim women is after money and maybe even targetting this business because of it's clientele and "funky look". The Muslim probably lives in the neighborhood and has a grudge.

Posted by: PLCinTEXAS [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 10, 2007 7:07 AM

I can't stand the smug grin on her face. It's got a diabolical look to it.

Poor England. It's a goner. The outcome of this case will reveal in a big way how much of England is still England, and not Englandistan.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 10, 2007 9:07 AM

"Wearing a headscarf is essential to my beliefs."

NOT wearing a headscarf is essential to MY beliefs!

Why should your way trump my way, especially in MY country?!

Posted by: alexon at November 10, 2007 1:59 AM

Oh, that's a good one, alexon. Yeah - NOT wearing a headscarf is essential to MY beliefs, so you just go on about your business, smug Muslima.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 10, 2007 9:10 AM

"Ms Noah, 19, is claiming religious discrimination and suing Ms Desrosiers for more than £15,000 for injury to her feelings, as well as an unspecified sum for lost earnings."

Lost earnings ? For crying out loud, she hasn't worked a day in her life, was turned down for 25 jobs and now sues for lost earnings !

Posted by: Sanwin [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 10, 2007 10:29 AM

PLCinTEXAS

this is legal jihad i believe that the monetry part is incidental.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 10, 2007 11:07 AM

They come at us Not with the sword, but with penis and womb. thus do they hope to conquer us.

Posted by: unicorns62000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 10, 2007 6:43 PM


leonthepigfarmer asked me: "are you in the USA?
you would have much more power if you became a US citizen."

I'm a reasonably patriotic British-born Canadian citizen, and most likely will remain that way. I like Americans, but have little interest in living in the U.S.; I think they have enough immigrants already, legal and otherwise....:-) I am seriously considering reclaiming my British citizenship at some point though, which would not require me to give up my Canadian citizenship, just so I could vote and feel I could at least do something to prevent the country of my birth from going to hell, either through Islamism taking over or from the far-Right; both ways facism lies, and that's what horrifies me about what's happening there: as the more the political mainstream fail to confront radical Islam, the more power they give to the far Right, who will gain more and more voter support if they look like they're the only ones who care about the survival of British culture, or who even admit that there is such a thing as British culture and that it is worth fighting for. I will not let white supremicists, anti-Semites, homophobes, and neo-Nazis fight my battles for me.

Posted by: angloirishslav [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 10, 2007 8:13 PM

My questions to Madam Muslim,

1: If a blind client came to her chair with her guide-dog, would she refuse to do her hair?

If no, then she is the one who is discriminating.
If yes, then her religion doesn't seem so important to her.

2: If a client came to her chair wearing a low cut top and a mini skirt, and asked Madam Muslim to make her look sexy, would she refuse to do her hair?

If no, then she obviously doesn't follow her religion at all.
If yes, then she is the one who is discriminating.

3: Please write down a list to give to your employer of all the restrictions your religion will impinge on your job.

Posted by: Armoured Passionfruit [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 11, 2007 5:12 AM

"Ever since I was in high school hairdressing is what I wanted to do. It is sad for them to not give me the opportunity. This has ruined my ambitions. Wearing a headscarf is essential to my beliefs."


If your headscarf is so important DON'T pursue a career that conflicts with it. You wouldn't be a bacon taster becasue of your Islamic belief so why would you follow a career that is fundamentally opposed to the idea that a woman should never show her hair in public.

This woman is just a parasite, using this countries idiotic laws that allow racists like her to sue for not getting her own way.

Are their no muslim hairdressers? Did she apply to them? If she did why didn't she sue them.

Posted by: DaveMate [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 11, 2007 7:23 AM

This behaviour is becoming more common in the UK because of our stupid human rights laws. Parasites make a living out of not getting their own way. This is causing huge problems for small businesses. We are getting to a point where we are being forced to employ inneficient, unproductive workers who will spend their whole time trying to be offended rather than working for the good of the company. This is nothing more than blackmail.

Uur government backs this attrocious behaviour all the way. This country needs a swift kick in the arse. Time to tell these parasites that if they don't like the way we live to piss off to somewhere that follows their belief system. But no, that's not how muslims work. This example just shows how inferior muslims believe non-muslims are (HOW DARE YOU NOT GIVE ME A JOB INFIDEL SCUM).

On the plus side, we are seeing so many of these parasitical attempts to sue for not treating muslims as superior that the country is finally waking up to the threat this so called religion poses. People are finally realising that islam is not here to integrate but to colonise and overthrow.

Seems to be pretty standard behaviour, islam has never created anything, they have stolen from others. Another piece of evidence that islam is not a religion but rather a parasitic way of life.

Where are the moderate muslims we keep being told about? Why are they not speaking up? Time for the "moderates" to tell these parasites that islam needs to change, that the ravings of a mentally disturbed kiddy fiddler - who enjoyed nothing more than murdering people for not following him - be left behind.

Posted by: DaveMate [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 11, 2007 7:44 AM

Who would trust her to do their hair, if they can't see that she's made any effort with her own hair? Even if Desrosiers hired her, she'd only take up valuable production space at her empty station all day. Clients do have a choice regarding who cuts and styles their hair.

I hope Noah sees the make over photo, and considers adding a nose job and maybe contact lenses, if she seriously wants to make money working in a contemporary salon. I mean, this job falls within the superficial realm of trends and styles. No offense intended towards anyone with a large nose or who wears glasses! (I wear glasses half of the time, and when I got a broken nose, I agreed with the surgeon, who suggested he make some alterations, as well as fix the break.)

Posted by: OMGNowWhat [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 11, 2007 8:20 AM

I was just led to this, a hilarious burka fashion show:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKIgzScJ1WU&eurl=http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/


Hurry! Hurry before cair finds it and youtube takes it down!

Posted by: allat [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 11, 2007 8:43 AM

Ha, ha, ha.

How to put on a hijab:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orODVlOuvHg

You should read the comments,he, he, he.

Posted by: allat [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 11, 2007 8:58 AM

Yes, I know this is rather a cheap shot, but really, Noah looks like the "before" picture in a make-over ad.

The idea of this woman styling "urban funky" cuts is absurd. Good luck to Sarah Desrosiers with her case.

Posted by: gravenimage [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 13, 2007 5:51 PM

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