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November 20, 2007

"Islam should not be blamed for terrorism," UN conference

Islam is regarded with suspicion because of a spontaneously occurring Islamophobia, doncha know. The UN says so! By Dharam Shourie for the Press Trust Of India (thanks to Morgaan Sinclair):

The international community should counter the spread of Islamophobia partly due to "misinformation and misperceptions", participants at a UN counter-terrorism conference said.

Speaking at the 3-day conference, experts said there is a need for the international community to counter the spread of Islamophobia, which they noted has been growing in recent years partly because of misinformation and misperceptions about the religion.

The emergence of "misguided groups" that have deviated from the straight path to fanaticism, violence and extremism, attributing their acts to Islam, in no way justifies associating this phenomenon with the Islamic faith, they said during the conference titled "Terrorism: Dimensions, Threats and Countermeasures" in Tunis.

Very well. But why do those groups form the intellectual vanguard in the Islamic world today? Where are the peaceful Muslims who are countering their Islamic arguments?

"It profits from weak State capacity to maintain law and order," said co-chair and Tunisian Culture and Preservation of Heritage Minister Mohamed El Aziz Ben Achour, during the concluding session on November 17.

"These vulnerable areas are exploited by terrorists to mobilize recruits and justify violence. None of the religions are a cause of political radicalism and extremism. Religious doctrine may be 'tools of mobilization,' rather than a direct cause," he said at the conference which was jointly organized by the UN's Department of Political Affairs and the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC).

Participants agreed that terrorism flourishes in environments where there is discontent, exclusion, humiliation, poverty, political oppression and human rights abuses, as well as in countries engaged in regional conflicts.

"Discontent, exclusion, humiliation, poverty, political oppression and human rights abuses." But surely other populations besides Muslims suffer from those things, and haven't turned to terrorism. Once again the onus is entirely on non-Muslims to fix the problem, with no consideration whatsoever of the possibility that Muslims might also be responsible for it.

Posted by Robert at November 20, 2007 9:08 AM
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Also doesnt explain why Muslims born in the West, turn to jihad.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 9:18 AM

"Also doesnt explain why Muslims born in the West, turn to jihad."

To explain this they would need to quote from the Koran, this however would make them Islamophobes.


Posted by: Geeza [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 9:24 AM

Geeza,

Exactly

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 9:26 AM

This is from the UN, of course.

If this is a indication of how a world government would function, I'm afraid I would have to take a dim view of it.

Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 9:29 AM

tanstaafl,

Relying on the UN is suicide.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 9:32 AM

I'm sitting here, staring at my watch, waiting for the UN to blame it on the Joooooooooooooooooz.

5..............4.....................3......................2.................1..............

Posted by: Shy Guy [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 9:59 AM

"Islam should not be blamed for terrorism"

I'll believe that when the UN starts taking a black marker to the Koran and crosses out all the problematic parts that have cause 1400 years of trouble. Until then, I will believe what my eyes and ears and brain tell me regarding Islam, not what the UN wishes me to believe.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 10:25 AM

This was from a UN sponsored conference? Anything from the United Nations goes immediately into my trash basket.

Posted by: johnb [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 10:47 AM

UN stands for:

Useless Nations
Urine Nations
Unholy Nitwits
Unbelievable Nutjobs

Whatever it stands for, it needs to be EI-Eliminated Immediately because nothing good comes from it.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 10:54 AM

Saying Islam isn't responsible for terrorism is like saying alcohol isn't responsible for alcoholism. 'Nuf said.

Posted by: scooter [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 11:12 AM

U.N. misprint:

"Participants agreed that terrorism flourishes in environments where there is discontent, exclusion, humiliation, poverty, political oppression and human rights abuses, as well as in countries engaged in regional conflicts."

Should have read:

"Participants agreed that wherever the Prophet is revered there is discontent, exclusion, humiliation, poverty, political oppression and human rights abuses, regional conflicts, and terrorism flourishes."

Posted by: RalphInfidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 11:16 AM

One third of the members in the U.N. represent Muslim nations. This "international" body serves nothing but a vehicle of taqiya and jihad for the ummah, to weaken dar al harb and pit kuffar against other kuffar, as illustrated by the disastrous campaign against Christian Serbs, inspired by the U.N., executed by a coalition of deceived kuffar, and led by Bill Clinton.

If Christendom wants to survive and protect its liberty, one of the first thing that must be done is the dismantling of the U.N., which isn't just an innocent annoyance conceived by misguided, elitist idealists, but poses a real threat to the survival of dar al harb.

Posted by: US_infidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 11:22 AM
The emergence of "misguided groups" that have deviated from the straight path to fanaticism, violence and extremism, attributing their acts to Islam, in no way justifies associating this phenomenon with the Islamic faith...

How wonderfully ironic, since Sharia is often described as the "Straight Path." (E.g., http://www.sunnah.org/tasawwuf/shariah_tariqah.htm)

Posted by: kamala [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 11:42 AM

Why are you confronting us Islamophobes?

You should be confronting the Muslims who you claim are the misunderstanders of the teachings of Islam.

You should openly bring forth all the surahs, and the hadiths that speak to the so-called lesser jihad against all unbelievers and lay them out on the table for critical review.

But no! you will as before,again and again try and explain that they are all taken out of context, or that they are misunderstood because they are differently interpretated in Arabic.

Why will they not challenge the Quran or the hadiths? Because Muslims believe that the Quran are the words of allah and they cannot be changed for all time, and anyone that tries to can be marked for death.

Owe that the world would have not endured the wrath of Mohammed had he stayed in Mecca and preached far beyond those 13 years instead of making that trip to Medina to where he fell to becoming just another viscous tyrant among the likes of Ghengis Khan. Remove those last 7 years of Mohammed and there might be some degree of sanctity to his teachings among the 90 surahs prior to the last 24 surah.

I am still puzzled as to why his 150 or so followers as well as Mohammed were so angry because they were denied the right to pray in the Kaaba. Was this not the home of a pagan religion who prayed to numerous stones?

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 12:02 PM

UN wow, big deal, A muslim spokesman says something at a conference held in Tunisia. Any surprise?

Posted by: zaphodbrx [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 12:16 PM

Where should one start? With 9.29 and 9.5 and 47.4 and 8.60? Or with the hundred over verses in the Qur'an, that one can easily retrieve on-line (start by googling the "Calcutta Koran Petition").

Or should we start with the Hadith, or Muhammad's "exemplary" life as a warrior, striking terror into the hearts of his enemies, and urging others to do the same?

Where to begin?

And members of the Tunisian government, a police-state determined to hold Islam and assorted gannouchis in check, knows this perfectly well. As did the Founding Father of the Destour Party, Habib Bourguiba.

The Tunisian government should rethink what it wants for Tunisia, where so far it has done a good job of continuing to constrain Islam. But as the example of Turkey shows, Islam keeps coming back. It has to be sure to create not only the conditions of some mental freedom, but also to continue to enlarge the secular class. And this kind of Defense-of-the-Faith stuff will not do the trick. It will not do.


Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 12:26 PM

The next conference in the UN"s "Distortions of Reality" series will explain how Hitler should not be blamed for the Holocaust.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 12:48 PM

Again 'it is us that is misinformed and having misperceptions'.

Hey, U.N. go tell your f***ing muslim friends that it is them that have been 'misinformed and having misperceptions'. When did the U.N. have a comittee and decide 'we westerners are wrong, and the muslims are right'?

We are the ones that need to come in line with our thoughts.

Notice that they point out that there are 'misguided groups' but the U.N. is not willing to talk to them about 'misinformation or misperceptions'.

I did not see the U.N. say the same thing when Milochavic was killing muslims. Instead they invaded. I didn't hear 'misguided groups' talking about Christians, no...they were worthy of an invasion.

The U.N. is using the judicial standards of the west as our weakness, knowing that westerners comply with the law and authority. Pure deception and traitorous.

The problem is muslims, and they should clean their own house. Don't ask us to mess ours up to look like yours.

Posted by: alaskan1000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 12:57 PM

It's kind of hard to misunderstand or misinterpret over 10,000 terror attacks by mohammedans since 9/11. Once or twice, maybe. But over 10,000?

Posted by: j_not_a [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 1:01 PM

Countering "Islamophobia", the term which isn't even a valid one, is like staying behind when your house is on fire just to make your bed.

Deceptive, obfuscasting nonsense is what it is.

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 1:02 PM

I highly recommend Walid Phares War of Ideas: Jihadism versus Democracy for getting more insight into the battle to hide the truth about Islam's Jihadist tendencies from the unsuspecting publics of the western democracies. He dissects all these issues with a very sharp knife. Do read it.

Posted by: Malta_1565 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 1:08 PM

See the thread above. &uaar;

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 1:11 PM

"Participants agreed that terrorism flourishes in environments where there is discontent, exclusion, humiliation, poverty, political oppression and human rights abuses, as well as in countries engaged in regional conflicts."

Well, that is true. They've just described Saudi Arabia, Iran, Gaza, Syria, Hezbo Lebanon, Afghaqnistan and many other areas.

They just can't see any common denominator.

Posted by: sounder [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 1:24 PM

"Participants agreed that terrorism flourishes in environments where there is discontent, exclusion, humiliation, poverty, political oppression and human rights abuses, as well as in countries engaged in regional conflicts."
-----------------------------------------

And terrorism especially flourishes where Islam flourishes. But they don't seem to mention that part, do they?

Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 2:41 PM

Speaking at the 3-day conference, experts said there is a need for the international community to counter the spread of Islamophobia, which they noted has been growing in recent years partly because of misinformation and misperceptions about the religion.

yes, they dont want the word to get out they would rather us be still while they attack the west.

Posted by: aleipho [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 2:48 PM

Participants agreed that terrorism flourishes in environments where there is discontent, exclusion, humiliation, poverty, political oppression and human rights abuses, as well as in countries engaged in regional conflicts

these kinds of areas also seem to be the place islam itself flourishes. that and the prison system.

Posted by: aleipho [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 2:55 PM

Hey you infidels:

Just keep your heads up your arses, please. Everything will be A-OK!

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 3:42 PM

"I have been made victorious through terror." Al-lah, the Qur'an.

*******************************************************************************

The UN has become the world's largest pro-islam and pro-jihad propaganda organization. In fact, the UN may have also become the world's largest jihadist organization. So surprise, surprise when at UN meetings we are told repeatedly "Islam should not be blamed for terrorism."

The hard fact is most terrorists worldwide are Muslims who are acting out violent teachings taught in the Qur'an. And in fact, we have also seen statistics that prove the wealthier and more educated the Muslim the MORE likely he is to participate in terrorist acts (thereby ruling out poverty and social injustice as major causes).

Muslims knowingly carry out acts of mass murder of unbelievers because this is what the Kuran teaches them to do. The UN is a true accomplice to Islamic terrorism by knowingly and repeatedly covering up Islam's responsibility for Islamic acts of violence and mass murder-- and taking the side of the terrorists-- while at the same time falsely claiming to represent humanity as a whole.

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 3:42 PM

They said:

"Participants agreed that terrorism flourishes in environments where there is discontent, exclusion, humiliation, poverty, political oppression and human rights abuses, as well as in countries engaged in regional conflicts."

Folks, this is the money line which demonstrates how full of crap they are. Study after study of Islamic terrorists shows they are among the most affluent and well educated Muslims. And most of the "discontent, exclusion, etc, etc. is done by Muslims to other Muslims and non-Muslims.

They completely ignore Islamic holy scriptures and their calls for never ending jihad and violence to non-Muslims and instead peddle this brain dead garbage. Never mind the suicide bomber quoting The Koran as he/she blows up killing innocents. Who are you going to believe, us or your lying eyes and ears? The UN is beyond worthless.

Posted by: Proud Infidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 3:46 PM

UN - Unanimously Negligent

Posted by: Kevin [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 5:52 PM

They may as well change their name to United Muslim Nations. How can western countries quit this useless organization?

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 6:06 PM

"How can western countries quit this useless organization?"

ImNoDhimmi;

We are a charter member, and have a vote to kill any action taken by this flawed councel that is not in our interest. To leave will remove that, and that is not in our interests.

One vote can make a difference.

Posted by: Islofob IS-1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 8:22 PM


Fine , then lets how the U.N. likes being relocated in Saudi Arabia so every Jihad yahoo can fly planes into their Building and slaughter all of them because Islam had nothing to do with the Suicide mission for Allah.

Sounds fair to me , the UN is getting old anyway
and would right at home under Shariah Law and Whahabbism.

Posted by: ala-sux [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2007 8:36 PM

"Islam should not be blamed for terrorism," UN conference.

Of course Islam is not to be blamed. As the UN has said in over 65 resolutions from 1965 to 1992 alone, world problems are the fault of Israel (i.e. the Jews). Indeed, this is the only world issue on which the united nations is uniformly committed.

Posted by: David England [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 21, 2007 12:59 AM

How stupid do those self-important, corrupt, mendacious thugs at the UN think we are?! It will be a cold day in Hell when anyone tells me what or how to think. I can see. I can read. I am not a mindless, ignorant, illiterate moron. Therefore, I KNOW WHAT ISLAM REPRESENTS.

This is entirely off topic but I read something earlier that was absolutely astonishing about immigration to New Zealand. We're not permitted to protect our borders to keep out criminals, terrorists, people with lethal, communicable diseases, and other assorted rubbish. When the scum of the earth successfully cross our border, we are obligated to provide medical care, welfare, food stamps, immigration attorneys, and educations to their offspring, all with the blessings of our politicians, including the president, who favors Mexicans over Americans.

It seems that New Zealand is in dire need of people with technical expertise for various infrastructure projects. But due to the burden on their health care system, they WILL NOT ALLOW OBESE PEOPLE TO IMMIGRATE TO NEW ZEALAND, no matter how qualified they are!! Yet we are expected to take in the entire third world; support them when they arrive; not ask them to assimilate or learn our language, because that's discrimination; all because "America is a nation of immigrants." What is New Zealand?! Can you hear the howls from the liberals and ACLU if we returned to our former immigration policies, pre Ted Kennedy's plan to destroy America? If we don't make some changes soon, it will be too late.

I read about this New Zealand issue in the online Telegraph and when I compared their immigration requirements to our own, I was utterly astounded. I wonder if the UN is aware that they discriminate against fat people. They're probably smart enough not to give a damn.

Posted by: Susanp [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 21, 2007 1:27 AM

In view of UN's capitulation, we have to thank congressman Tom Tancredo for his stand:
http://www.teamtancredo.typepad.com/">http://www.teamtancredo.typepad.com/">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBK7bWh1m04&eurl=http://www.teamtancredo.typepad.com/

http://www.teamtancredo.typepad.com

Posted by: Alert [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 21, 2007 6:47 AM

UN: "ISLAM SHOULD NOT BE BLAMED FOR TERRORISM."

ALLAH: "I HAVE BEEN MADE VICTORIOUS THROUGH TERROR"--the Kuran.

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 21, 2007 2:50 PM

We need to remember that many muslims have different concepts for terms such as peace and terrorism. Peace means the presence of islam; without islam, there is war. Terrorism is an act against islam; what we call islamic terrorism is, to many muslims, merely a way to spread peace (islam).

There was sort of an illustration of this when the president of Iran was at the UN. He said Iran's nuclear program is peaceful. Of course it is if it is intended to support the spread of islam. He said that Iran does not export terrorism but is itself a victim of terrorism. By his definition of the term, he is correct.

And how about when he said the purpose of science is to support islam, and science that does not is corrupt? No wonder he thinks the west's technology is corrupt if it is not being used to support islam. Goodness gracious, it might even be used against islam!

The UN needs to have a dictionary of approved usage so that everyone uses words only in their approved context, e.g. peace = absence of war. Better yet, lets just turn the UN into a shelter for the homeless--the tired, the poor, the huddled masses yearning to breathe free....

Posted by: shallen [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 23, 2007 9:57 PM

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