This is a powerful link from a sharp guy who attended a madrassa in Bangladesh for a couple weeks:

http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/001892.html

Posted by: pez at November 25, 2007 1:29 AM

Thanks Pez. Interesting reading.

Posted by: Cornelius at November 25, 2007 5:51 AM

I've got an idea! Why don't our guys leave and give the food to others who could use it? All they have to do is just go a few miles south of Bengal and I am sure some folks there could use some chow too.

Posted by: R_not at November 25, 2007 7:15 AM

'so it is a shame on us, Muslims, that we are allowing the US on our land'

Note the self-identification as Muslims and not as Bangladeshis. For these protesters being a Muslim seems to trump any other label they could have put on the cyclone victims -- not poor suffering humanity, homeless and starving people, orphans and injured -- just "Muslims."

In a sane and rational world blocking humanitarian relief efforts would be a moral outrage.

Posted by: Jen at November 25, 2007 8:54 AM

I'm sure the Saudis could fill in during our absence.........

What's that? All the Saudis send is a few wacky imans and stupid interpretations of "Islamic" law.

Man may not live by bread alone, but tell that to your starving children.

Posted by: tanstaafl at November 25, 2007 9:21 AM

'so it is a shame on us, Muslims, that we are allowing the US on our land

Now if he would add that "it is a shame on them, Americans, to allow Moslems on their land" he would be my kind of mohamedan.

Posted by: thomas. h at November 25, 2007 9:40 AM

Get along without American relief, but ask all those fabulously rich Saudis and Kuwaitis and Emiratians and Qataris, not to mention the Libyans and Algerians and a few others, to share just a little bit of their fabulous unearned wealth with their Muslim brothers in Bangladesh, just the way those fellow Muslim brothers in Pakistan helped out so much during former East Pakistan's war for independence. Remember?

Hundreds of millions of primitive people, made primitive in part by the habit of unquestioning mental submission that Islam demands, in both Indonesia (during the tsunami) and Bangladesh, have repeatedly, recently, suffered from natural disasters, and the only outsiders coming to their considerable aid have been Infidels. And yet, at the same time, many in those country, being primitive, have ascribed these natural disasters to Allah's anger, anger that they have been insufficiently good Muslims.

What if the Infidels began to spread another rumor? What if it were to be bruited about, here and there and everywhere -- merely reporting the rumor on Western radio stations would get the thing started -- that, in fact, Allah or rather the Christian God was quite upset with those who had chosen to follow the "Arab God named Allah" and that he would be sending disastrous floods that would engulg most of Bengal as a consequence, and that only those who left Islam and embraced Christianity, or for that matter Hinduism, or Buddhism (the Christian God was apparently willing to accept anything at all but the Muslim Allah) were likely to have a chance to be saved.

And, indeed, since these floods of a very large part of Bangladesh are now inevitale, and the Hindus of India are going to have to decide who they will save -- should they rescue tens of millions more Bangladeshi Muslims? How is it working out, in West Bengal, with the Muslims from Bangladesh who have been flowing in over the past few decades? They are of course being treated with scrupulous fairmindedness by the local (state) government, far better, obviously, than Hindus or Buddhists (in the Chittagong district) are treated in Bangladesh. So how are those Muslim arrivals treating the indigenous Hindus and other non-Muslims?

You know the answer to that question. And since you know the answer, why should West Bengal, or any part of India, take in the foreseeable tens of millions of Bangladeshi Muslims, unless they, in correct anticipation of what is to come, and because the floods are a sign that the real god, the Christian God called "God," is angry with them for having worshipped Allah for so long, turn away from Islam?

Infidels should use rumors, and the credulity of Muslim masses, for their own purposes. Why not? It is idiotic for the Arabs to have believed, as many did in the 1970s (a little less of that goes on now), that Allah had deliberately made sure that almost all of the oil wealth went to Muslims, and to Arab Muslims as the "best of peoles," and this was -- perhaps still is -- widely believed by Muslims. And it is equally idiotic to believe that the rise in sea levels, and in the intensity of hurricanes, comes from some deity's anger. But at least, in the case of the latter rumor, that can be used to our benefit, to demoralize the Camp of Islam, or at least part of it, and to use its own credulity against the hold of Islam, and for Christianity, Hindusim, Buddhism, or any other plausible alternative. And that earthquake in Bam, in Iran, to which the Islamic regime responded so hesitantly and so ineffectively? Clearly, Iranians were being punished for turning away from Zoroastrianism long ago. And that tsunami in Indonesia, that struck with particular force Aceh, the most Muslim of Indonesian islands? Well, you know why God did that, don't you? Shall we tell the Indonesians, shall we tell the Acehnese?

What a good way to enter the credulous minds of , non-Arab Muslims. some of whom, because of the recognition of Islam as a vehicle for Arab imperialism and Arab supremacism that can be encouraged by the propaganda from Infidel governments and groups, can have their faith in Islam shaken, and a return to whatever faith preceded the arrival of Islam encouraged.

One more thing for the non-existent Department of War Propaganda within the Pentagon, to think about. But first that Department of War Propaganda has to be created. Just one of those things.

Posted by: Hugh at November 25, 2007 9:47 AM

Millions of Europeans object to jihadists being present in Europe.

Posted by: Stephen Gash SIOE England at November 25, 2007 10:43 AM

When I heard about this cyclone, I thought "too damn bad". Don't ask us for help. Not one penny.

Posted by: interestinconundrum at November 25, 2007 12:02 PM

My tax dollars going to feed my enemies.

Thanks, fools.

Posted by: profitsbeard at November 25, 2007 12:03 PM

All food-aid should be marked "Made in Israel"...let's see if their hunger outweighs their hatred.

As I've posted before, you wouldn't believe how many bearded muslims have no problem receiving surgery at Catholic hospitals with Jewish or Israeli-born doctors. They have no problem having Urology Laser Surgery with fiberoptics made in Israel.

Maybe it is high time to allow Bangladesh to suffer beyond imagination...let them eat their tasty koran's and headscarves if they are hungry, until they renounce Islam.

Posted by: AmericanTiger at November 25, 2007 1:09 PM

"....chanted slogans 'Go back to America' and 'US has no place in Bangladesh'."

I have a similar chant that I've been rehearsing:

"Muslims -- Go Back to the Middle East!!!!"

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but notice how all terrorists are Muslims; and if you're going to remain a Muslim, fine, but please pack your bags and return to the mother ship. Today!!!!!

Posted by: champ at November 25, 2007 1:11 PM

The US relief force should simply turn around and set sail for home, citing widespread hostility to US aid.

The US is not reponsible for coercing other muslim states to make up the shortfall either, that is the job of the OIC.

But my main concern is western governments issuing taxpayer funded relief and development aid, which is extorted from citizens by administrations. The only grants of aid to foreign parts should come from charitable contributions.

Posted by: Monty at November 25, 2007 1:13 PM

Then grant them their wish and leave.

As a matter of fact, have nothing to do with Muslim countries and they will soon collapse under their 'religion of peace'.

Posted by: sounder at November 25, 2007 2:04 PM

Frankly I don't know why the west bothers to help such people. Leave them to it then, I agree.

Why do we want to force aid on people?

Posted by: payingattention at November 25, 2007 3:31 PM

Promote and join the NYC rally against sacrificing Israel to Global Jihad in Manhattan outside Israeli Consulate, 800 Second Avenue, bet 42-43rd Streets, Monday noon til 2pm.

See http://blessingbank.blogspot.com for details.

Posted by: DemoCast at November 25, 2007 5:40 PM

Conclusion: Bangladesh sucks.

Posted by: RoobartSbunsar at November 25, 2007 6:29 PM

Why do we insist on foisting aid and civilization on these cretins when they would rather not have it? Let their god take care of them-this is what they want. If thousands perish, so be it. Chalk it up to the will of their god and just move on.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 25, 2007 9:07 PM

Go God! Whack those crescent moon god worshippers, they're slow to learn.

Screw aid from us 'infidels', the primitives don't deserve it. Pray to Allah for relief.

Posted by: Battle_of_Tours at November 25, 2007 11:44 PM

JAKARTA (Reuters) - At least three people were killed and 45 injured when powerful earthquakes struck off the coast of Sumbawa island in central Indonesia, a health ministry official said on Monday.
Earthquake on Indonesian island:

"Several buildings, including a health clinic, collapsed in the island's Bima district, said Rustam Pakaya, the head of the health ministry's crisis centre.

"The casualties are likely to increase and we are still assessing the situation," Pakaya told Reuters.

The quakes affected the eastern side of Sumbawa island, a rugged volcanic island that gets fewer tourists than neighboring Lombok and Bali.

The first quake of magnitude 6.7 struck 30 miles northwest of Raba in Sumbawa just after midnight, an official at the country's meterology agency said."

God is very angry, you see, that people in Indonesia keep practicing "the Arab religion" and worshipping someone they call "Allah" and someone who claims to have superseded Jesus. And he's going to keep up with those earthquakes. The only chance for being saved -- and at this point, because of all the time spent in the wrong faith, even that may not work entirely -- is to convert, and pronto, to Christianity.

Spread the word.

Posted by: Hugh at November 25, 2007 11:46 PM

"Pray to Allah for relief"....LOL!!

Posted by: champ at November 26, 2007 2:24 AM

Assalamau Laikum all,

Please ignore these extreme lunds, some of the harrowing scenes of the cyclone and the pain on the faces of the Bengalis remind me of my own time when I went to Anwer’s aid in Musafarabad when he got caught in our own Earthquake in Pak.

Believe me, there really is quite no sight like the downtrodden, depressed and hungry after a major tragedy. Even after two weeks, childrens cry seeking out their Ami/Abu, and few it seems want to look after them.

The womens wail & beat their breasts crimson red for their loved ones. The queue for food is large and for water is larger, the day is blazing hot, while the night can get cold, and rains can compound the misery.

Pak jawans did the best they could, but with a lack of equipment, they too can get depressed with the lack of progress and childrens hounding them for chocolate and the occasional adult asking for a smoke “ek bidi milagee?” they ask.

Mushi’s hukamat did what it could ….but in the midst of all this misery there were calls for a caliphate…the logic being that the caliphate would be better organised for dealing with muslim misery…I couldn’t quite believe it.

Maintaining lines and queues is difficult, as was transport, and I was lucky to get my Anwer out from that mess to a hospital in Lahore.

Some of the hardliners may not appreciate your presence …but I do. The Amerike has an appalling reputation and bad track record with the muslim countries….what better opportunity for you to try & repair this.

Know that there will always be winchers and hardliners….even for them …if it came down to starving or eating roti made with Amerike wheat….I know which one they would choose.

Thank you fro your help…and please keep contributing!

Know that Allah T’alah has put you in the privileged position of helping Allah’s chosen peoples…please do not even think about abusing this privilege.

Posted by: Naseem at November 26, 2007 5:38 AM

Know that Allah T’alah has put you in the privileged position of helping Allah’s chosen peoples…please do not even think about abusing this privilege.

Nassim darling,

Unless your Allah (T’alah), latest this Wednesday, issues a modified version of Koran abrogating his currently standing command to slaughter the Infidel and introduces a new sura forbidding referring to America as “Amerike” many would rather happily continue “abusing this privilege” than helping allah’s chosen people.

Posted by: thomas. h at November 26, 2007 7:17 AM

...Islamic clerics intend to keep the Muslim people downtrodden....they are easier to control if you rule with an iron fist.....The clerics do not really care about improving peoples lives, only controlling them....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at November 26, 2007 7:57 AM

Naseem, you are hilarious. I foresee a great future for you as a stand-up comic.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at November 26, 2007 7:57 AM

...the ships should leave...but not before dropping some leaflets that may say:....."we cannot drop off food, medicine, tents or any items of comfort, because your Islamic Clerics tell us not to.....please go to them for your food, medicine, tents, and other items of comfort...we would like to help relieve your suffering, but Islam prevents it and we do not want to interfer with your religion....Peace be with you...."..

Posted by: exsgtbrown at November 26, 2007 8:01 AM

Infidels. Muslims can't live with them and they can't live without them...

Posted by: eloivsdiablo at November 26, 2007 5:46 PM