The Muslims certainly do not think it is offensive to force schools, shopping malls , airports, places of employment and train stations to install footbaths for Muslims....The Muslims certainly do not think it is offensive to force employers to grant their Muslim employees prayer time off during the work hours....The Muslims certainly do not think it offensive to force Christian Churches to be silent in neighborhoods containing Muslims or to have Christian religious icons covered or removed altogether...The Muslims certainly do not think it offensive to publically broadcast Muslim prayers throughout the day, prayers (most often in Arabic---a language most infidels do not speak)in which the NonMuslims in the neighborhood do not know what the prayers are calling for and the Muslims do not think it offensive to force Non Muslims not to sing their religious songs nor hold outside prayer ceremonies, even objecting to Christian prayers at graveside services...Muslims do not object to forcing Christians to convert to Islam or even to kill them if they refuse....Muslims do not object to forcing Christians and NonMuslims to pay protection fees or taxes known as Jizyah or forcing them to flee the area if they refuse...

Muslims object to anything Non Muslim...even the Uniforms of Soccer players ...especially if it shows the individual are showing symbols of their country or of a respect for the religion of their choice...you see...Muslims object (often violently) to any sign that people may a love or desire for a religion other than Islam...

...The Muslims view the defeat of their team by a team of Non Muslims as a Defeat of Islam by the Crusaders....The Muslims cannot stand any defeat to Non Muslims....You see it on the battlefield, in the schools, on the job, in the courts, on airplanes, or any other place their show up...Muslims hate life and cannot adapt to Non Muslim societies or Non Muslim laws....When they fail, they throw temper tantrums much like a spoiled and poorly disciplined child....

Ban Muslim Immigration..

Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 11, 2007 6:51 AM

It seems likely that in the near future, Australia will become a republic.

If/when that happens, the flag featuring the Union Jack, will, no doubt, be changed.

The likely contender for the national flag is the Eureka Stockade, which was created in 1857, and which has a cross on it, with a star on each end of the cross, as well as one in the middle.

I've sometimes wondered what muslims in Australia would do if the Eureka Stockade flag become our national flag?

Posted by: Voltaire at December 11, 2007 7:28 AM

....I think a flag showing Mohammad with a bomb in the turbin which is crossed out by a big red X and circled in red...would be neat...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 11, 2007 7:50 AM

Many Europeans find the Star and Crescent symbol of Islam extremely offensive.

Somehow, a Turkish (presumably muslim) lawyer complaining about a religious symbol being offensive is itself innoffensive.

Keep Turkey out of the EU. And Albania for that matter.

Posted by: Stephen Gash SIOE England at December 11, 2007 7:55 AM

"Fenerbahce..."

.Fenerbahce was pushed by the plotter sitting, we may imagine for reasons of homeoteleuton, in a symbolic Dolmabahce, which (while now a tourist site), was once the place from which both the last sultans and Ataturk ruled.

It opens up such a rich field. Why don't the Turks demand that that fancy restaurant in New York, Sant'Ambrogio (patron saint of Milan), change its name? Better still, why not have the Western world change all of its toponyms that begin with Saint, San, Santo. Or for that matter "Angel" OR "Angeles."

So the future Muslim traveller, in a Muslim-dominated world (and if they won't integrate with all non-Infidels, surely it wouldn't hurt if we all just submitted to becoming dhimmis, or became Muslims ourselves, would it? Would that matter so very much?) from Francisco in northern California, to Fe in New Mexico -- the right Fe, of course, the only true Fe -- passing by Los, and not have to endure a single hint of that Christian business that just a few decades ago could still be found, on maps and timetables.

Or if you prefer, take the train: the Atchison, Topeka, and the Fe. The song's rhythm will require another epithet to be slipped in, so Judy Garland doesn't miss a beat.

You decide. What you put, instead of Santa, in the line "the Atchison, Topeka, and the _____Fe"?

Oh, you don't like this game? You don't want to play it? You refuse to drop these Sans and Santas, and you don't think the Milan soccer team should have to endure even replying to this Turkish lawyer but the Italian government should sue him right back, for the frivolousness of his own outrageous suit, and then ban him from ever entering Italy -- just like that?

My feelings exactly.

Posted by: Hugh at December 11, 2007 8:08 AM

I doubt this will help Turkey getting in the EU.

Posted by: Elric66 at December 11, 2007 8:18 AM

I doubt this will help Turkey getting in the EU.
Posted by: Elric66 at December 11, 2007 8:18 AM

Let's hope so. Teddy bears and soccer shirts appear to be big issues to the Islamists.

If this preposterous suggestion wasn't put forth by Baris Kaska in sincerity, I probably would have gotten a good laugh from it.

Posted by: awake at December 11, 2007 8:37 AM

Yes how dare us infidels insult Islam,only Islam has been given that right because Islam is the only religon that counts in the world. The rest of us are a bunch of unbelievers and it is just a matter of time that they push us into full subserviance to Islam. We have just got to learn our lessons before really get ourselves into trouble, but shame on us as we keep making mistake after mistake.

Some of our mistakes:

This one is probably the most offensive; we keep treating woman as equals to men.

We use symbols such as crosses in the presence of Muslims .

We eat pork

We make offensive cartoons about Mohammed

We name a teddy bear mohammed.

We have improperly handled the Qu'ran.

We don't help Muslims pray to Mecca 5 times a day, and we need to point them in the right direction.

We have failed to get them separate baths.

We have tried to practice Christianity in a Muslim country.

We Don't dress correctly and our women should cover their faces and bodies when in public.

We allow women to go out alone without a chaperone

We allow women to be in the company of a male stranger.

We allow women drive cars.

We allow women go to school

And the list goes on and on and yet we still haven't learned our lessons.

Come on now be a good good dhimmi.

Posted by: Mackie at December 11, 2007 8:57 AM

If we're to change place names, to eliminate all reference to Saints or Saintes, then the province of Quebec is going to be one busy place. Which may account for their preemptive legislation identifying Quebec values. In some Quebec municipalities, stoning has been officially outlawed. Not surprisingly, there was one group that was offended at these ordinances.

Meanwhile, in the Province of Ontario, in the town of Brampton, a young girl fights for her life, attacked by her father. News coverage has been splotchy, no names were released. Interviews only stated that the girl was "having problems with her father" or that "her family is very religious." What religion would that be? Then, as if by mistake, the newscaster mentioned that the girl had been taking her hijab off at school. It's the flip side of the story posted above. Only it's happening right here in North America.

Posted by: Chatillon at December 11, 2007 9:23 AM

What I love about this story is that they wore different shirts when in Turkey out of sensitivity to their feelings. Aren't we always bending over backwards for all the good it does us?

Posted by: poetcomic1 at December 11, 2007 9:36 AM

The Inter Boars sound really tight.

Posted by: mustang65 at December 11, 2007 10:25 AM

It might be good to remind the Turks that their ancestors were among the first Christians and that many Christian saints came from Turkey.

Saint Nicholas was from Turkey. The gospel of John traditionally was written by someone living in Turkey. Mary lived many years in Turkey. Remind them at every turn. Gently.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at December 11, 2007 10:39 AM

First it was Danish cartoons.

Then teddy bears.

Now soccer shirts.

Posted by: tanstaafl at December 11, 2007 10:49 AM

If the Italian team's uniform was so offensive then why did the Turks play them at all? Funny that they noticed the offending uniform after losing the game-they are indeed losers on more than one level.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 11, 2007 11:02 AM

Just to put things into perspective, this is the face of MODERATE islum.

If it were RADICAL islum then these men would all be killed for wearing shorts.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5020804.stm

Please carry on your discussion with this in mind.

Posted by: MrTommyAtkins at December 11, 2007 11:05 AM

Where do you get one of those cool shirts?

Posted by: MontJoie at December 11, 2007 11:58 AM

Erratum: In my earlier posting, "Brampton, Ontario" should read "Mississauga, Ontario." Sorry for the mix up. See the other topic thread for details.

Posted by: Chatillon at December 11, 2007 12:04 PM

They're complaining about this being worn.....in Italy??????

I find all the muslims wearing the tops with "FC-UK" across the Union Flag offensive. If I complained about that, I'd be damned as a racist.

Posted by: Celsius at December 11, 2007 12:54 PM

MontJoie

You get the shirts here:

http://store.inter.it/dettagli.asp?lingua=ENG&cat=405&id=101007&ric=&sposta=

Posted by: buraq_is_dead at December 11, 2007 1:01 PM

I think the crybaby Turks should take their marbles and go home, rather than trying to legally annul their poor peformance in the game.

Just when you think you've heard it all, they astound you again!

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at December 11, 2007 1:35 PM

looks like the cross of St.George from the English flag. Is St. George the patron of Milan?

Posted by: MP at December 11, 2007 1:41 PM

looks like the cross of St.George from the English flag. Is St. George the patron of Milan?

Posted by: MP at December 11, 2007 1:49 PM

How can people be so stupid as to want to have their poor performance cancelled because of the shirt worn by the opposing team?

I wonder if they would be asking for the cancellation had they won?

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at December 11, 2007 1:54 PM

"A Turkish lawyer who's an expert on European law, Baris Kaska, is asking Uefa to cancel the three points Inter earned in their win against Fenerbahce in the recent Champions League match."

Evidently he will use his expertise in European law not to follow that law, but rather to subvert it, much like the "ambulance chasers" we have here in the States.

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at December 11, 2007 2:08 PM

So, next time the Turkoman tribe turns up in Europe waiving their flag flying the symbol of the moongod Tubal and his daughter Manat, please complain ti UEFA, and have their points cancelled.

Posted by: Osmund Bindalen at December 11, 2007 2:20 PM

Add it to the List.
http://amboytimes.typepad.com/the_amboy_times/2007/02/the_list_of_thi.html

Posted by: kevin at December 11, 2007 2:23 PM

Just imagine if the Mexican Soccer Team could have our Lady of Guadalupe, standing with the crescent beneath her feet, embroidered on their jerseys. She is the Patroness of the Americas, after all.

I'd fly to Turkey for that match.

Posted by: CapitalistGig at December 11, 2007 2:23 PM

Since we are talking about things which upset musulmans, we should include some foods which upset them, apart from Danish cheese. Some religious things: the Croissant, or Crescent - hot, flaky, buttery Austrian delight which commemorates the Musulman defeat of September 12, 1683, should have been eaten by the winning team. No. Savoured by the Italians. If they would have stuffed a nice roasted red pepper into said hypothetical croissant, with a smoky Provelone and prosciutto, yes, that would be some victory....quaffed with a nice Chianti or a pinot noir. Maybe if the Irish beat their hides, they will celebrate with a hot cross bun and Guinness.

Posted by: Jauhara Al-Kafirah at December 11, 2007 3:04 PM

I think the point the Turkish lawyer was making was that the t-shirt is basically a mini knight's tunic...from the Crusades.
I can understand his point but basically "get over it, eh."

Posted by: DaninVan at December 11, 2007 3:05 PM

I think we should start using the racist card every time a Muslim complains about something Western. Throw it right back in their faces.

For example:

The Turks are being racist for not appreciating Italian culture and celebrating European football diversity. We demand an apology right this instance!

In fact, we demand that Turks install holy water stations at all Turkish football stadiums to accommodate Christian football fans. If they don't do this they're racist, and Europhobic.

Posted by: antishock8 at December 11, 2007 3:36 PM

'It might be good to remind the Turks that their ancestors were among the first Christians and that many Christian saints came from Turkey.

Saint Nicholas was from Turkey. The gospel of John traditionally was written by someone living in Turkey. Mary lived many years in Turkey. Remind them at every turn. Gently.'

The ancestors of the Turks were among the first Christians? Mary, St.Nicholas lived many years in...Turkey?! The Gospel was written in 'Turkey'?
Plague on Both Houses, your discourse is Islamic pro domo sua. Why, it is Muslims who want us to believe that all these things happened in Turkey. In reality, they happened in a Christian land of priceless beauty that was to become the great, one and only Byzantium. Its capital (Christian capital) was to be Constantinopolis (now- and only NOW- Istanbul). THAT the Selcuk Turks came from the Asian steppes and ATTACKED those Christians for hundreds of years before they FINALLY CONQUERED CONSTANTINOPOLIS,SOAKING THE CITY IN BLOOD- SOURCES GO THAT THEY PUT OUT THE CANDLES IN ST. SOPHIA CATHEDRAL with NEWBORNS' HEADS (1453)- DOES NOT MAKE THEM THE ANCESTORS OF THOSE CHRISTIANS WHO DIED AS MARTYRS. In fact, it is more likely we are the ancestors of those Christians- we, the people of nowadays Romania and Bulgaria, the people of Serbia, Croatia, Greece. We, whose countries were raped and looted and burnt down repeatedly (as repeatedly as 800 years can accommodate) by Islam via its Turkic and Tartar representatives. And fine representatives those were. Just get your hands on a book and check the numbers of male youths paid every year as part of the jizya to make male prostitutes for the glorious Ottoman Islamic armies.
TURKEY IS A LAND OF (RECENT) INVADERS.(1453 IS RECENT. TO EXEMPLIFY HOW RECENT IT IS, CONSIDER THAT THE CHURCHES OF KAPPADOKYA, IN ANATOLYA, DATE FROM TWO HUNDRED SOMETHING). TO ATTRIBUTE THE INVADERS THE GOSPEL AND THE DWELLINGS AND EFFORTS OF EARLY CHRISTIANS and saints IS AU PAR WITH ATTRIBUTING THE TALIBAN THE MERIT OF CARVING THE BAMYAN BUDDHAS.
In fact, this line of thought is so extraordinary I have seen nothing like it lately...

Posted by: Christianpersempre at December 11, 2007 3:42 PM

This is unbelievable. I hope uefa finds the guts to tell them - the Italians won fair and square on Italian home turf, and they can keep their victory, and they can wear whatever they damn well like during the game and after it, because ITALY IS A FREE COUNTRY.

Cheaters. Bullies. BAD SPORTS.

What ARE they going to do at the Olympics next year? Turkey, and any other Muslim country fielding a team? During the Opening Ceremony, when the teams parade with their flags?

All those Infidel countries - the Israelis of course with the Star of David, then quite a few with crosses of various kinds, others with other symbols - e.g. the Sun on the Japanese and Korean flags - signifying non-Muslim belief systems.

Are the Muslim teams from Muslim countries going to throw a collective tantrum and sulk in the corner while everyone else has fun at the parade?

I wonder whether, if the Games were being held anywhere other than in China, the OIC would be feeling triumphalist enough to whinge and whine and DEMAND that all flags incorporating non-Muslim religious/ philosophical emblems not be displayed during the parade, so as not to hurt the religious feelings of the poor widdle Muslims, waaaaaa.

Folks: the next Olympics are in Britain? Better get to work now to head off any possible attempt to use the Opening Ceremony parade to impose Dhimmitude on the whole damn world.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at December 11, 2007 3:46 PM

I think the point the Turkish lawyer was making was that the t-shirt is basically a mini knight's tunic...from the Crusades.
I can understand his point but basically "get over it, eh."

Oh, is that so, DaninVan, you can really, really 'understand his point'? Then what should the Turkish footballers' tee-shirts do to me, a Romanian, those tee-shirts that ALWAYS, ALWAYS have a crescent on them, the very SAME CRESCENT worn by the people who used to slit OUR pregnant women's bellies open to pull out their babies?

Just take a wild guess what such crescent who enslaved, tortured and subdued my- I cannot even say 'ancestors', since the thing went on till full modernity: late 19th century), what effect such crescent might have on me.
If you guess right, you are smart.

Posted by: Christianpersempre at December 11, 2007 3:57 PM

'They're complaining about this being worn.....in Italy??????'

YESSSSSSSSSS...Celsius, precisely so!

Let us start a campaign- GET AN INTER SHIRT FOR CHRISTMAS!
At least this is what I am getting...Santa Maria Purissima, the times we are living...

WHO'S GETTING IT? (THE INTER SHIRT FOR X-MAS)?

Posted by: Christianpersempre at December 11, 2007 4:08 PM

The UK / Iranian stand-up comic, who performed at the last Edinburgh festival while eight months pregnant, - shades of demographic conquest! - addressed the issue of Muslim sensitivities as part of her act on the radio the other day.
She said that, when children, her brother had complained to her mother that he always got a telling off for doing something wrong while his sister always seemed to be left alone when she did.
Her mother replied that Shappi had a wild and uncertain temper and it was just too much bother to get into a scene with her.
This was why Christianity had to endure endless insults while Islam was treated with respect, if not kid gloves: Christianity had itself to blame because it said you should turn the other cheek.

Given the sinister religious doctrine on the subject, number of lives that have been lost and violence that has occurred and the assault on freedom of speech in the west it has produced I found it a rather ugly little bit of patter. I can't remember of the audience displayed much amusement but these comedy circuit type crowds are a self-selected bunch: they probably find such ethnic attitudes original, right-on and rather chic.

Posted by: wallyUK at December 11, 2007 4:22 PM

"A Turkish lawyer has filed a complaint to Uefa after Inter wore a shirt with an offensive symbol, at least to Islamic culture ... "
-------------------------------------

Yeah, but ... any more, what ISN'T offensive to Islamic culture? The West needs to start telling the "religion of the perpetually offended" to stuff it...

Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at December 11, 2007 4:24 PM

Christianpersempre -

Pardon me for insulting you, but what I meant is that the real estate and the people living in what is known as Turkey were Christian before.

I didn't mean the Turks as a tribe. Sorry if my inexact language did harm.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at December 11, 2007 4:29 PM

Sappi Kkorsandi's act can be caught at:

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/fricomedy/fricomedy_20071207-1900.mp3

it's about four fifths of the way in and the punch line, about Christian complaints to Muslims was: " Oooh! - what are you going to do - send in the salvation army?"

Posted by: wallyUK at December 11, 2007 4:43 PM

I sent this to all my fellow Italo American friends and, though Calabrese not Milanese, have already asked LA BEFANA to bring me the Milanese Inter team shirt for Christmas (an Epiphany present actually.) On second thought, I should ask dear La Befana to bring some brains, balls and backbones to all my cugini in la bella Italia so that they can teach the Turks and other muslims some Italian sign language as they escort them out of the boot of Italy forever.

Posted by: bevc at December 11, 2007 4:57 PM

I bet all of those foreigners -- especially the Brazilians -- that play for Fenerbahce were so upset by the Inter jerseys that they just couldn't keep up!

Posted by: Don Miguel at December 11, 2007 5:01 PM

Thank you, Plague on Both Houses, for the kindness to apologize. You needn't have done so. You did not offend me; I am not easily offended. It is not us, remember, who cultivate and harvest a culture of offence to be taken advantage of later. As Voltaire said, the devil doesn't like satire; and the ones who cry 'insulted' to maximum effect are, well, not me.
We, here, are civilised people: a clarification will do, which you have satisfactorily provided.
I so wish you were right and that the Turkish nation were the greatgreatgreat...grandchildren of those Christians. Unfortunately, they are only marginally so. Although there have been conversions (of the more often-met type of forced ones),and also mixed marriages (resulting in the conversion of which party do you exactly think...?), most followers of those Christians were simply killed or left the country. There were waves and waves of a Greek genocide, an Armenian one, a you-name-it one. Many Christians moved away (not in search of foreign pleasures, I can assure you). In 1914 the ex-capital of the ex-Byzantium was 50 to 60% Christian. Now it's 1%.
Q.e.d.

Posted by: Christianpersempre at December 11, 2007 5:03 PM

GRAZIE TANTE BEVC, SEI TROPPO FORTE!!!!!
BTW, I provided the translation of an intersting piece of news on the Kosovo issue, under yesterday's Jihad Watch title 'Pre-independence Euphoria in Kosovo'
Please have a look and give a hand...thank you all!

Posted by: Christianpersempre at December 11, 2007 5:07 PM

Turkish racists. Muslim racists. A red cross on a white flag is a common Christian symbol. They are just trying to impose their religious worldview on non-Muslims.

Remember, that the Crusades started after 400 years of Islamic provocation and due to Muslim persecution of Christians going to the Holy Land. Christians wait 400 years to act, Muslims take 4 minutes. We all know who the real religion of peace is.

As I have said before, with regrets a new Crusade is coming against Islam. It is my prediction that a combined movement of Secularists, Christians, Buddhists, and Hindus will work together finally end Islam as a global religion. Not because we hate them, but because they hate us. Sadly, it appears that a wide swath of Muslims are unwilling to live equally with non-Muslims. In the end, humanity must deal with this evil racist Islamic theology.

Posted by: James Martel at December 11, 2007 5:27 PM

Let them into the EU...

Posted by: US_infidel at December 11, 2007 5:39 PM

it looks more to me that the fact that Turks got their Islamic butt kicked some 500 years ago by the Knights of Malta and the Knights Templars use the reality behind the complaint theseIslamic fascists

Posted by: grizlybear at December 11, 2007 7:18 PM

Harbinger of things to come when Turkey is accepted into EU leading to the death of the Judro-Christinaity culture and incresed anti-semitism.

Below is an extract from complaint. The full text can be read at

http://www.acikhukuk.com/default.asp?s=haber&id=1

Baris Kaska, Turkish Lawyer:

As a Turkish citizen and a supporter of Fenerbahce İstanbul FC, I had terribble shock with this scene and deep ache on my soul.

The soccer jersey has been worn by Inter Milan football players is full of hatred, racisim and religious character. The crusaders were known by various terms, including Saint Peter, knights of christ were granted a clotch cross (crux) to be sewn into their clotches. The crusades were a series of military conflicts of a religious character waged by much of Chrisitian European during 1095-1291 most of which were sanctioned by the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church in the name of the medieval polity of Christendom. This holy war was nothing more than a long act of intolerance in the name of God.

The crux on the soccer Jersey of Inter Milan football team had been reminiscent of the hatred, bloody days of the past, that day not only me but also all Turkish people and Muslim world.

Posted by: Nicolei at December 11, 2007 7:32 PM

The thing is, they found that wearing shirts with crescent moons had no psychologic effect whatsoever on their opponents, AND THAT'S NOT FAIR !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: boure at December 11, 2007 7:34 PM

Where did I read it recently?

All jails in Britain have been ordered not to fly the British flag because it has the Cross of St George in it and it will offend Muslims.

Posted by: PorkyPig at December 11, 2007 7:52 PM

ha ha ha

ironically muslims are flocking in their hundreds of thousands to live in english towns and cities, England's flag, LOL, was a symbol used by the crusaders. red cross on white background!

many muslim communities are trying to get this flag banned across parts of sharia england, and get this, LOL, the dhimmi english marxist county councils are agreeing with them.

lads, I think it's time King Arthur woke from his slumber, eh what say you? time for the big boys to roll back years of marxist brainwashing.

now then, where do we start?

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at December 11, 2007 8:51 PM

"Many Europeans find the Star and Crescent symbol of Islam extremely offensive.

Posted by: Stephen Gash SIOE England at December 11, 2007 7:55 AM"

So do many Americans -- particularly when that symbol is made into a memorial where Flight 93 was brought down by the passengers trying to retake the cockpit on 9/11.

Posted by: tommylotto at December 11, 2007 8:52 PM

tommylotto

huh?

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at December 11, 2007 9:06 PM

So, you mean if the US would happen to be playing say, Saudi Arabia in the World Cup, and the Saudis had a player who looked a little too much like, say, Hani Hanjour or any of the other Saudi 9/11 terrorists, the Saudis couldn't keep any goals scored? I mean, after all, the mugs of Hanjour et al remind many Americans of religiously-based terrorist acts. And allah forbid any Muslim player mention his (allah's) name within earshot of the other team because non-muslims associate that word with mayhem and murder.

Ha! There won't be a goal allowed by any team from the entire muslim world.

Posted by: CJ at December 11, 2007 9:12 PM

Has there been a complaint yet about the letter t? At least in lower case? If not, it's only a matter of time, or ime I suppose.

Posted by: Interested Conservative at December 11, 2007 9:17 PM

Forza Inter!

Posted by: Room 237 at December 11, 2007 10:05 PM

Gee, if it's that easy to vanquish the Muslim hordes, then we should get our soldiers body armor with crosses emblazoned on the chests. Gee, where have I seen that design before?

Posted by: Korla Pundit at December 11, 2007 10:23 PM

Buraq -- Thanks for the link!

Posted by: MontJoie at December 11, 2007 11:19 PM

The last time I looked, the Republic of Georgia shared a border with Turkey. As with England , its flag consists of the red cross of St George on a white background, only with a few more for emphasis:

http://web.ku.edu/~herron/images/country_flags/georgia_flag.gif&imgrefurl=http://web.ku.edu/~herron/eurasia/georgia.php&h=258&w=378&sz=6&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=6ugy9IL-rgr16M:&tbnh=83&tbnw=122&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgeorgia%2Brussia%2Bflag%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DG">http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://web.ku.edu/~herron/images/country_flags/georgia_flag.gif&imgrefurl=http://web.ku.edu/~herron/eurasia/georgia.php&h=258&w=378&sz=6&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=6ugy9IL-rgr16M:&tbnh=83&tbnw=122&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgeorgia%2Brussia%2Bflag%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DG

Not to mention all the Scandinavian flags which consist of one form of cross or another. The guy is a complete fruitcake.

Posted by: wallyUK at December 12, 2007 1:42 AM

Sorry,
Georgia flag link above incorrect. This should work:

http://www.abtassociates.com/images/countries/Georgia_flag.png

Posted by: wallyUK at December 12, 2007 1:45 AM

Here we go ..these make great Christmas presents or party favors.

http://www.anyflag.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AFG&Product_Code=A321100

Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at December 12, 2007 3:40 AM

You'll get an every-day Polo shirt here:
http://store.inter.it/prodotti.asp?cat=412

The cross is an ambrosian cross:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambrose

Posted by: FreeSpeech at December 12, 2007 6:18 AM

"F-@##%#$ Ities"-(Eurotrip, a bad movie from which I will never recover the time lost to watching it, never allow a young adult to pick the movie.:))

How dare they? The impudence of the infidels to wear such shirts on their on homeland. Obviously the Turkish team was intimidated by just the mere thought that the Italian team might be wearing those shirts. The loss of the game has nothing to do with the lack of skill to beat the Italians. If one fails on the field, lets go to the courts. If that be the case, then I'll sue OU for beating Texas A&M. The "Sooner" image is offensive to my sense of fair play. The very idea that people would cheat at a land grab. It obviously intimidated A&M for the last 4 years. And while I'm at it, I'll sue all those muslim nations for displaying muslim symbols on their flags as I find those equally offensive. As well as all those who use the term "islamophobia" to describe those who seek the truth about islam. Thanks Kaska.

Posted by: Kevin at December 12, 2007 11:27 AM

Leont.p.f.; tommylotto was referring to the Flight 93 Memorial and he's absolutely correct. It's a monument to the killers, not the passengers.
michellemalkin.com/2005/09/10/flight-93-memorial-seeing-is-believing/

Posted by: DaninVan at December 12, 2007 1:04 PM

I find the color green and the crescent offensive, and no longer wear or use them.

Fine. Now we're even, Ba'tards.

Posted by: Miss_Anthrope at December 12, 2007 5:01 PM

"Many Europeans find the Star and Crescent symbol of Islam extremely offensive.

Posted by: Stephen Gash

So do many Americans -- particularly when that symbol is made into a memorial where Flight 93 was brought down by the passengers trying to retake the cockpit on 9/11.
Posted by: tommylotto

tommylotto

huh?
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer
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Leon, I know you're a Brit, so you may not be familiar with this grotesque "Memorial". United flight 93 was the only flight on 9/11 where the passengers fought back against the terrorists. The plane went down in a field in rural Pennsylvania, killing all aboard.

Almost immediately there was a proposal to build a memorial at the site--rightly. The design selected, however, was something called the "Cresent of Embrace", with red japanese maples in the shape of a cresent, with the whole thing oriented towards Mecca. There were also to be commemorative markers for each passenger on the flight--including the terrorists!

Many people were quite justifiably stunned and outraged. The design was changed somewhat, but not in any substantive way--the infamous cresent design remains. Many family members of passengers are calling for the whole memorial to be scrapped rather than have this travesty.

The whole thing is unresolved at this point. This issue has been chronicled on Dhimmiwatch--here is just one link--there are many others:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/017977.php

Posted by: gravenimage at December 13, 2007 11:15 AM

Time for all Christians, in countries with vociferous and aggressive Muslim minorities, to consider publicly wearing the Cross, always and everywhere. Add a Star of David or little Israeli flag for good measure - e.g. on a brooch or pin.

Don't avoid green: wear bright green with pride, if you have even one Irish ancestor! In some Muslim countries in the past, dhimmis were FORBIDDEN to wear even a thread of green - it was reserved For Muslims Only. So let non-Muslims wear green, as an act of defiance.

I recommend this especially to students on campuses. Why should not, say, the various non-Muslim religious (and nonreligious!) groups on campus agree to publicly display their symbols - and to back each other up, if the Muslims get antsy about it? The Muslims might think twice about bullying a Jewish lad with tzitzis and yarmulke, if they knew that several hundred Christians were going to pop up and confront them, along with a lot of Atheists and Agnostics and some grim-looking Sikhs.

Christmas approaches. Time for Christians in all majority-Christian countries to ring those church bells LOUDLY, and to go carolling and processing in public. When you put up those Christmas lights, spell out Jesus' name in lights; make the Star a Star of David (the Muslims don't like it at ALL if you point out, firmly and patiently, that Jesus and his mother Mary are JEWS). If you're Catholic, lavishly decorate your Mary grotto. If you're Orthodox, display your icons in procession. In at least one major city in Australia, in recent years, there has been a whole manger scene, with live actors, set up in the central city square.

In Australia lots of churches will be holding Carols by Candlelight in public places such as parks - make sure the Gospels are read during the proceedings. Put scripture texts on your church noticeboards. ALL OF THAT violates sharia law, which forbids dhimmis from publicly exhibiting the symbols and practices of their faith, and from publicly declaring their beliefs where any Muslim might possibly hear them.

We Christians offend Muslims, we break sharia law, every time we ring a bell, every time we sing a carol, every time we carry a Bible or show the cross in public. Well, tough! Islam DOESN'T rule the roost here yet, and by the grace of the living God, it never will, so they can jolly well get used to being 'offended'. If they don't like it, they're perfectly free to leave - no-one will stop them.

(BTW: I fully affirm the right of Jews and of groups such as Sikhs, Hindus, and Buddhists, to publicly display the symbols of their faith, and to confess same out loud in public, to hold processions, blow shofar or conch shell, beat gong and drums, etc. I may find the Hare Krishnas a bit annoying, but they are fine to dance down the street chanting and playing instruments).

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at December 13, 2007 5:18 PM