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“This is not a stand-alone incident; rather, it is part of strategy to Islamize Eastern Africa and the Horn of Africa, through the introduction of Sharia law.” Islamic Tolerance Alert. By Daniel Blake for Christian Today (thanks to Twostellas):
Raila Odinga, the current frontrunner in the upcoming presidential election in Kenya has promised that he will implement strict Islamic Sharia law if he receives the Muslim vote in the country and is elected president.A memorandum of understanding (MOU) was signed on 29 August 2007 by Sheikh Abdullahi Abdi, chairman of the National Leaders Forum (Namlef), and Raila Odinga, presidential candidate from the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM).
Despite being signed in late August, the MOU was not made public until 27 November 2007.
However, according to International Christian Concern (ICC) there are in fact two versions of the MOU. Persecution watchdog International Christian Concern claims that a private MOU was signed between Sheikh Abdi and Odinga which is very different from the one presented to the public.
ICC says that in the secret version of the MOU, Odinga, if elected, would “within six months, rewrite the Constitution of Kenya to recognise Sharia as the only true law sanctioned by the Holy Quran for Muslim declared regions”.
Odinga is currently seen as the favourite for the election which takes place on 27 December 2007.
In response to the revelations the Evangelical Alliance of Kenya released a statement in which church leaders said, “In both MOUs, honourable Raila comes across as a presumptive Muslim president bent on forcing Islamic law, religion and culture down the throats of the Kenyan people in total disregard of the Constitutionally guaranteed rights of freedom of worship and equal protection of the law for all Kenyans.”
The chairman of the Evangelical Alliance of Kenya, Rev Dr Wellington Mutiso told ICC, “Kenya should continue to be a secular state. Christians want a level playing ground where [Christians and Muslims] are treated equally.
“We [Kenyan Christians] are opposed to any move at favouring a particular religious group by political parties.”
In addition, the ICC regional manager for Africa, Darara Gubo said, “This agreement made with Muslim leaders undermines the secular nature of Kenya and opens a Pandora’s box of chaos and conflict similar to what happened in Nigeria and Sudan.
“This is not a stand-alone incident; rather, it is part of strategy to Islamize Eastern Africa and the Horn of Africa, through the introduction of Sharia law.”
Posted by Robert at December 18, 2007 7:05 AM
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"“This is not a stand-alone incident; rather, it is part of strategy to Islamize Eastern Africa and the Horn of Africa, through the introduction of Sharia law.”
...THe Muslims have the same plan for EUrope and the US...
...Ban Muslim Immigration...
Posted by: exsgtbrown
at December 18, 2007 7:23 AM
There just is nothing better than the Koran to take a peaceful and rather prosperous nation and turn it into yet another mess. Hopefully Kenyans will reject this sharia loving fool before their country is destroyed by civil war.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at December 18, 2007 7:44 AM
bent on forcing Islamic law, religion and culture down the throats of the ________ people in total disregard of the Constitutionally guaranteed rights of freedom of worship and equal protection of the law for all ________. ”
Fill in the blank with ANY country. It is the future.
at December 18, 2007 8:32 AM
This is from the CIA factbook about Kenya:
"Religions: Protestant 45%, Roman Catholic 33%, Muslim 10%, indigenous beliefs 10%, other 2%
note: a large majority of Kenyans are Christian, but estimates for the percentage of the population that adheres to Islam or indigenous beliefs vary widely"
So, Muslims make up approximately 10% of Kenya's population -- not enough to take over, but enough to swing a close election to the short-sighted dhimmi politician who promises them sharia goodies.
Europe? America? Australia? Is anybody out there listening?
Posted by: CJ
at December 18, 2007 8:41 AM
CJ: shortsighted? I wish. Call it rather criminal, selfish and treacherous. Remember, Africa is the place where Robert Mugabe, in spite of having despoiled his nation, is regarded as a great hero. Why? Because he is perceived as having kicked the White. Kenyan politics is full of nasty little black supremacists who have it in for all minorities, for western civilization, and, ultimately, for democracy. I reckon someone could be hoping to become president-for-life and perhaps stage a highly publicized "reversion", reducing all his non-Muslims subjects to slaves and insuring vicious and efficient support from the black Muslim minority.
P.S.: these are peculiar Muslims. Among the minorities they hate are Pakistanis and Indian Muslims, guilty of being successful in business. You need not doubt, however, that they would be INCREDIBLY fraternal with Muslim heads of state from that part of the world.
Posted by: Paolo
at December 18, 2007 8:59 AM
Our system of social control is unable to deal with islamic penetration. We extend citizenship and voting rights to the enemy and then wonder why our culture is being destroyed "from the inside" or by a "fifth column" while never, ever, ever pointing out who and what the enemy is.
I have a pragmatic solution. A muslim can be a muslim but cannot be a citizen at the same time. You either choose islam or you choose citizenship. Democracies should not extend citizenship to muslims.
at December 18, 2007 9:30 AM
A little note to the Kenyan Christians. Have a bag packed just in case. Nothing good will happen if sharia rears its ugly head in your nation. If this happens and you decide to revolt, don't expect any sympathy from the UN or much of the West. You will be expected to be good little dhimmis and accept sharia. Or better yet, get the word out by any means necessary and ensure that this idiot, Raila Odinga, loses big.
Posted by: Kevin
at December 18, 2007 9:35 AM
P.S.: these are peculiar Muslims. Among the minorities they hate are Pakistanis and Indian Muslims, guilty of being successful in business. You need not doubt, however, that they would be INCREDIBLY fraternal with Muslim heads of state from that part of the world.
Posted by: Paolo
Everywhere in the British East African territories, there were large numbers of Indians and Pakistanis, most of them Moslem. They were mostly shopkeepers and lower-level bureaucrats, and formed a middle-class between the small white ruling class and the bulk of the black population. One of the first things that the African countries like Tanzania did on achieving independence was to throw out the Asians, often with only what they could carry -- much as the first thing North African countries did at independence was to drive out the Jews. Neither India nor Pakistan would take them back; they were two or three generations away from the Old Country. So most of them ended up in Britain, forming the nucleus around which Asian immigration grew. A fine humanitarian gesture by the British 40+ years ago has grown into a nightmare.
at December 18, 2007 9:50 AM
Asaalamaua Laiakum Kevin,
I don't think tha we have "spoken" before...you say (to the Kenyan Christians)...."have a bag packed just in case".
So is the UK, Canada and the Amerike going to make them welcome....you know like the 1972 exedous of Asians out of Uganda.
Kevin please note that the 21st centuary will be a defining and momenteous time for Islam and muslims in particular.
The colonists have had their play....although they hung around ...it's 3 strikes and out.
Kevin...with Islam it's different. We never forget to revisit a place we like. Look at Indonesia, Turkey, Lebonan....all great places.
The North of Africa is all Islamic...it's only natural that Islam would spread downwards....this is Allah T'alah's will.
Kevin, Islam is for all...you too. Reading the sahada is plain and simple...it's easier than going to the convenient store round the corner.
Have a picture of the Kabah (Hajj time at the moment)over your fireplace, a clean top shelf for the koran, start your beard off ...and you are good to go.
at December 18, 2007 10:11 AM
I see the troll is back the worst thing to happen is for a tiny minority of Muslims to gain power because of shortsighted politicians this will lead to civil war with only 10% Muslim population in Kenya and the other 88% being Christian and Muslim would have all the slaves a.k.a.dhimmi they could want in a problem with the Civil War brought on by a tiny minority of Muslims means every other seventh century follower of the pedophile prophet is going to jump in and declare holy war they don't seem to have the brains to realize they are in the grip of a cult that was dreamed up by a seventh century epileptic with delusions of grandeur and mental problems who also was a criminal and one lazy assh-le
Posted by: grizlybear
at December 18, 2007 10:31 AM
Like, oh....my....God, Naseem mentioned me by name. Isn't he so dreeeeeamy?*sigh*
Posted by: Kevin
at December 18, 2007 10:38 AM
"with Islam it's different. We never forget to revisit a place we like. Look at Indonesia, Turkey, Lebonan....all great places."
-- from the posting by "Naseem" above
What a chilling remark. Muslims "never forget to revisit a place we like." They are retaking Indonesia, as the memory, and effect, of those years of mental freedom under the Dutch, a time when non-Muslims could be assured of protection, and their numbers consequently grew, recedes. Muslims have not forgotten "to revisit" Turkey, which they are taking back from the Kemalists, sysematically undoing the careful constraints that Ataturk had systematically put in place. And they have whittled steadily away at the power and status of Christians in Lebanon -- whether through the PLO (during the Civil War) joining with local Muslims, or now, through Hezballah, joining with the quasi-honorary Shi'a -- that is the Alawites -- of Syria, and behind Syria's Alawites, the real Shi'a of Iran.
Posted by: Hugh
at December 18, 2007 10:56 AM
I wish Naseem would post more.
Until people understand that "peaceful" da'wa works hand-in-glove with terrorism and purposeful Islamic murder (like Van Gogh) we're not getting anywhere.
Notice that no imam in the world said he wouldn't accept Muslims who were only converting because of al Qaeda's (or dozens of other Islamic) threats to convert or face war?
Posted by: Beagle
at December 18, 2007 11:03 AM
Sharia essentially outlaws all religions so prostylization is a crime.
Islams plan is religicide through intimidation and attrition.
Since this truth cannot be spoken, Islam will continue to spread unabated and will overwhelm all societies that do not take measures to stop ISlams spread ,
stopping the spread of Islam is bigotry since Islam calls itself a religion ,when it is in fact a deen a way of life politically economically morally and personally.
The problem isn't really Islam, it is ignorance and unwillingness to address or recognize facts.
What is the price of liberty ?
Posted by: GrennBeck
at December 18, 2007 11:06 AM
At least Roger Whittaker no longer lives in Kenya.
Born in Nairobi, left for England in '59 or '60.
From Naseem: "The North of Africa is all Islamic...it's only natural that Islam would spread downwards....this is Allah T'alah's will."
Spread downwards? Yeah, as in the first rule of plumbing: Hot on the left, cold on the right, and sh*t don't flow uphill.
Posted by: Pelayo
at December 18, 2007 11:13 AM
Since this truth cannot be spoken, Islam will continue to spread unabated and will overwhelm all societies that do not take measures to stop ISlams spread
We will not do anything to stop the spread of islam that involves action. We will simply continue to talk and argue for the goodness of everyone and how we must not judge individual muslims and how islam can be made modern until we have our heads chopped off.
In order for OUR CULTURE to spread and survive, we have to defeat islam and the muslims. If we fail and are defeated, what future do we think we might enjoy?
I am still astounded that we continue to entertain islam when we should be be destroying it.
Posted by: mike trivisonno
at December 18, 2007 12:51 PM
May YHWH deliver Kenya from the seven hells of slavery, poverty, ecological ruin, mass murder and fear under a ruthless, chaotic Muslim despotism.
May YHWH's judgement fall upon all the preachers and plotters of Jihad.
at December 18, 2007 2:54 PM
"Kenyan Christians could be subjected to Sharia law."
Now read it this way:
"Christians could be subjected to Sharia law."
If the Christians are subjected to it, everybody else who isn't Muslim will be subjected to it too. And that goes for here, there and everywhere, not just Kenya.
We can help the Kenyans, (somehow and I don't know how,) or we can let them fall and let the ummah be one more nation stronger and have to deal with a Kenya that is infested with Muslim nonsense.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader
at December 18, 2007 3:07 PM
There is a group called Stop Islamification of Europe.
There should be a group called Stop Islamification of Africa.
Posted by: Voltaire
at December 18, 2007 3:17 PM
A few further thoughts:
Note there seem to have been two versions of something: one secret, one for public consumption. Classic Muslim modus operandi, eh?
Now: in what ways may people outside Kenya, such as ourselves, offer psychological and physical support to the Christians - and other non-Muslims - of Kenya? Some of us could start, perhaps, with a letter of support to Rev Dr Wellington Mutiso, and a donation to International Christian Concern.
English is one of the official languages in Kenya - therefore Robert's books would be accessible to many of the educated. Is there anyone reading or lurking here who has Kenyan connections (say, a friend, business colleague, family, or a missionary from their church) and could use that to get Robert's books - say, Truth About Muhammad, and The PIG to Islam and the Crusades - into the main public or university libraries in Nairobi, and into the Catholic, Anglican and Evangelical Alliance seminary libraries?
Hey: where is the Maecenas who will sponsor a gift of "The Truth About Muhammad" to every sitting non-Muslim politician, and non-Muslim newspaper editor, in Kenya? Just so they know exactly why Islam behaves like it does.
Christians, of course, may pencil in December 27 as a day for heavy-duty prayer and fasting on behalf of religious freedom in Kenya.
Despair is one of the seven deadly sins. We have to refuse to despair.
at December 18, 2007 3:26 PM
...recognise Sharia as the only true law sanctioned by the Holy Quran for Muslim declared regions...
"Muslim declared regions". In other words, the entire universe, for all eternity. They're not interested in just one slice of pie, people.
Posted by: special_guest
at December 18, 2007 5:12 PM
Raila Odinga is not a Muslim but a leftist politician playing the dhimmi to win the Muslim vote. He is an African version of Ken Livingstone or Gordon Brown. Sadly, Odinga gets a lot of financial support from the US, Britian, and the EU because of his commitment to "democracy" and his opposition to the so-called "authoritarian" regime of former President Daniel Arap Moi.
By religion Raila Odinga is an Anglican but obviously he is more in tune with Rowan Williams and the liberal white Anglicans than with the many African bishops who are standing up for traditional Christianity.
Muslims make up only about 10-15 percent of Kenya's population and mant of those are ethnic Somalis in the Eastern border region. Somalis are well hated by the majority of Kenyans who consider them to be both lazy and violent. This attitude is especially prevalent among the Kikuyu who are the largest tribe.
I suspect that an attempt to impose Sharia anywhere in Kenya could be a blessing in disguise. Unlike Nigeria where Muslims are around half the population, the backlash in Kenya would be overwhelming. I could well imagine a future Kenyan government insuring stability against Islamic troublemakers by expelling every Muslim to Somalia on 24 hours notice.
Posted by: Provoslavni
at December 18, 2007 5:23 PM
I read this and about fell out of my chair with laughter: "Kevin...with Islam it's different. We never forget to revisit a place we like. Look at Indonesia, Turkey, Lebonan....all great places."
It's different all right, if one considers Hell a great place. FYI, Lebanon was a wonderful place until Islam took over. Now it's a hell hole for Christians AND muslims. Nassem, you've been living in Oz way too long. Get a grip on reality, please.
Posted by: never_submit
at December 18, 2007 5:48 PM
"Kevin, Islam is for all...you too. Reading the sahada is plain and simple...it's easier than going to the convenient store round the corner.
Have a picture of the Kabah (Hajj time at the moment)over your fireplace, a clean top shelf for the koran, start your beard off ...and you are good to go."
Naseem, you are so cute. Come on, you know that your son fell in love with a kaffur and she ain't moving to the Islamic hellhole of Pakistan (smart girl) where if she makes one wrong move you and your family members can have her killed. I'm sure your son is charming and this girl is probably taken in by that, not realizing that submitting herself to Islamic law will enslave her, like you, forever. I'm guessing you never heard of a little battle called Lepanto. Or maybe you are ignorant of the battle for the island of Malta, which the Muslims lost, after Suleman shot his big mouth off and sent headless, crucified knights via cross through the harbor to wash up on the beach. Big mistake. You really want to be careful how you piss off Crusaders. I think, if I remember correctly, the 700 knights on Malta, held off the 40,000 Mohammadans for 30 days until help arrived. But before then the Catholic knights sure made a mess out of your team. When all was said and done, 30,000 of your guys were dead and the other 10,000 limped back to where they came from.
Kevin won't be growing a beard or sticking his butt up in the air to worship your Satanic "god" Allah. But your grandkids will come to America where they will marry Christian, Americans and become Crusaders. Being Christians though, they will pray for your conversion rather than find a way to have you killed. You can say a prayer of thanks to whoever, for that.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader
at December 18, 2007 6:29 PM
Isabellathecrusader said
But your grandkids will come to America
I hope, oh so very much, that they will NOT. I hope that we will address the immigration issue by then. We don't need any more Muslims, or those pretending to be Muslims to get a rise out of the kaffirs.
Posted by: special_guest
at December 18, 2007 7:07 PM
Special Guest,
I didn't mean as Muslims but as proper little English kids whose dad has given up Islam because he really couldn't care less about it, and his English wife, who had her fingers crossed when she promised to become a Muslima to marry him. There must be some grave concern about the future daughter in law going through with it or Naseem would not be on the verge of a nervous breakdown.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader
at December 18, 2007 8:46 PM
Imposing sharia on the Kenyans will be one stupid move. In that part of the world tribal affiliations still count. This is Mau Mau country, when they go ape-shit it won't be pretty.
Posted by: ivan
at December 18, 2007 8:52 PM
Maybe Huckabee and Romney can learn from these Kenyan Christians?
Posted by: Dumbo
at December 19, 2007 6:40 PM
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