Do you think that if I wrote a detailed rebuttal to this piece by Ajmal Masroor, that The Guardian would print it?

There's only one way to find out. I'm sure we could all add our positive feedback to your piece once it's published. Sorry, I should say 'if'.....

Go on, Robert, I double dog dare you!

Posted by: Abu_Lahab at December 26, 2007 9:28 AM

Let's take it up a notch, BAM!!! I triple dog dare Robert.:)

Posted by: Kevin at December 26, 2007 9:47 AM

The truth is that former British PM Tony Blair converted to the Roman Catholic faith because his wife and children are Catholic. This is not suprising because, as often in the USA, that people come into the Catholic faith because the spouse/children are Catholic and have asked the non-Catholic spouse.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at December 26, 2007 10:03 AM

You've got to credit to Masroor for being right in one respect. If Blair really believes all the pap he's been mouthing about Islam over the years and if he really thinks the mass Muslim immigration he permitted under his watch is a good thing, then he should convert to Islam. Ditto that twit Prince Charles.

Posted by: RBLA at December 26, 2007 10:06 AM

The truth is that the fastest growing church in the UK is the Roman Catholic Church is the fastest growing church. Plus with a traditional Pope in charge, with renewed interest in the famous "Latin Mass" and Pope Benedict's standing up to the challenge of Islam and Islamofacism, and with the Church of England in serious decline, no wonder folks like Mr. Blair are "swimming in the Tiber River" to come "home" to Rome for Christmas.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at December 26, 2007 10:09 AM

Time to take a reality pill. Could you even in your wildest dreams imagine Cherie Blair in a Burqa?

Please.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at December 26, 2007 10:12 AM

From one Catholic to another, WELCOME HOME Tony. :)

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at December 26, 2007 10:13 AM

I read this article yesterday and found it grossly offensive and arrogant.

And the timing of its publication was deliberately provocative.

Full of the usual islam-o takiyya and kitman. Nauseating. They take us for fools.

Posted by: Silvester at December 26, 2007 10:16 AM

Oops, hyphen above in the wrong place.

Posted by: Silvester at December 26, 2007 10:18 AM

Silvester,

This does not suprise me in anyway, shape, or form. With the Muslims and those dhimmis who support them see that the Christian faith is surging ahead, and in a special way, the RCC, in gaining new members, the Islamofacists are going into panic. Proof is that St. Peter's in Rome for Midnight Mass for Christmas as well as churches elsewhere were packed. People want to hear the good news of HOPE.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at December 26, 2007 10:33 AM

Robert,

Why don't you write one anyway and challenge the Guadian to publish it? Even if they don't it will get attention on the blogs.

You should not fail to mention Ajmal Masroor's dishonesty for not stating what we all know about the leader behind the recent, "Make me a Muslim" program, that he wants EVERYONE in Britian to "embrace/submit" to Islam not just Tony Blair. He just chose to single him out because he is high profile, his dhimmi statements about Islam, and the widespread anti-Catholic setiments that already exist in Britain (and not just on the Left).

Posted by: irish_infidel at December 26, 2007 11:00 AM

"Why have you not tried Islam?" (Masroor)

I wasn't aware one could "try" Islam - the religion from which people are dying to leave.

Posted by: LoneRanger at December 26, 2007 11:09 AM

Did the Guardian writer mention that once you join the Mo-cult, it means death if you ever dare try to leave?

Very "progressive" indeed.

About 1280 A.D. to be exact.

Posted by: profitsbeard at December 26, 2007 11:09 AM

Ajmal Masoor, Ali Eteraz, Karen Armstrong, Ed Husain, Inayat Bunglawala, all of them take us for fools.

The Grunard has long been a forum for Nihilists, Stalinists and Islamofascists. The more bizarre the more eager they are to print it.

Looks like the kidz who run the Guardian are just bored with their own degenerated environment.

Why should anybody be surprised that Masroor believes Islam is irresistible?

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at December 26, 2007 11:18 AM

What satirist could withhold his pen, what cartoonist could hold his pencil in view of such a spectacle as this?

Posted by: lefty at December 26, 2007 12:16 PM

Christmas Greetings:

"And so here's another question: why has The Guardian allowed itself to become a mouthpiece for Islamic proselytizing?"

Guns and/or Butter.

Posted by: 11B40 at December 26, 2007 12:46 PM

I agree w/ RBLA above. That said, personally, I've never really been able to respect one who abandon's his/her own religion for another, unless of course, the religion being abandoned happens to be Islam.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at December 26, 2007 12:48 PM

Could you even in your wildest dreams imagine Cherie Blair in a Burqa?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at December 26, 2007 12:50 PM

Ajmal Masroor writes as though he is a sulking little boy, angry that he's not included in the games. Who approached Ajmal? Did Amjal suddenly decide to write a story on this? What was he thinking as he wrote this, he is obviously hurting from Blair's conversion. Is he annoyed that the British are turning to Christianity and not Islam, is he upset that hte bombing campaign failed in their attempts to make hte British people submissive to Islam.

Ajmal seriously needs to rethink his worth in the UK, do we really want divisive people like this living in the West? Free choice and all that but this article is pretty creepy.

I can't help but see an underlying threat between the lines.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at December 26, 2007 12:59 PM

"...whose holy man are dogged by accusations of homosexuality and paedophilia?"

So what about mohammed who got his sexual kicks with a 9 year old girl you santimonious hypocrite?

As for the Grauniad, this is the paper that was so stupid as to employ a member of Hizb ut Tahrir, an organisation that would quite happily kill it's homosexual staff.

Posted by: Celsius at December 26, 2007 1:05 PM

"Time to take a reality pill. Could you even in your wildest dreams imagine Cherie Blair in a Burqa?"

Cherie Blair in a burqa? Maybe Islam isn't all that bad... Add Hillary Clinton to that cake and I'll really be tempted to eat it.

"You've got to credit to Masroor for being right in one respect. If Blair really believes all the pap he's been mouthing about Islam over the years and if he really thinks the mass Muslim immigration he permitted under his watch is a good thing, then he should convert to Islam. Ditto that twit Prince Charles."

Good points indeed. Charles may have converted already, according to some.

"I wasn't aware one could "try" Islam - the religion from which people are dying to leave."

Another excellent point.

Now my two cents: one's faith is a personal matter. Apparently that Muslim moron isn't aware of that. Blair should convert to appease Muslims in Baghdad? Only during April's fool. Sorry buddy, wrong month.

Posted by: cruzado at December 26, 2007 1:44 PM

I'm starting to worry that the PC crowd and the leftist ignoramus' who perpetuate the "islam means peace" myth are starting to truely influence young peoples opinions . I'm only 29 myself , my younger brother is 22 and now lives in Nottingham a multi-cultural city if ever their was one . My brother has always been an intelligent and rational person and loves un-PC comedy .... But just lately his views have become more liberal in that he routinely attacks Christianity yet defends muslims , while laughably claiming to oppose ALL religion . We had a huge disagreement yesterday , and I gave him facts and proovable logic about islam and muslim mindsets , telling him that his "moderate muslim" friends are either not moderate , but simply pretending to be (until a subject such as Israel/Palestine crops up ...) ; or ARE truely moderate but not actually REAL muslims at all since they do not live by the korans code , and therefore are defined as "hypocrites" by the koran . It felt as though I wasn't getting through , as our mother kept interjecting as the debate got more heated , and he kept shaking his head as though I was some kind of extremists (and this is my brother who shares the same interests in movies , TV and comedy as me ... I can't understand how his psychology can be so different that the obvious violent threat of islamic fundies does not register !!!

Posted by: Rikki at December 26, 2007 2:08 PM

"Why not? After all, she handled a high profile case of a Bangladeshi Muslimah who wanted to violate the school dress code (of salwar-kameez, not skirts or frocks) and wear a jilbab instead. Why is it such a stretch?"

Because she is a bitch on wheels attorney and a member-of-the-ACLU-in-good-standing wannabe. She's the one that tries to make the rules, not the one that follows them. C'mon Infidel Pride, you know that.

"I wasn't aware one could "try" Islam - the religion from which people are dying to leave."

Our buddy Ajmal Masoor is a marketing rep, akin to a used car salesman, whose job it is to sell Islam. The "try before you buy" B.S. that he's spewing is just a gimmick to get us all to come in and sign on the bottom line. It's kind of like when you take out a credit card and don't read the fine print about how and when the teaser rate will disappear and you'll soon be paying over multiples of that # in interest. If you don't pay your cards on time you will get annoying phone calls until you do. There is no disclaimer but a much more sinister reality if you join Islam for the free thirty day trial period and then try to leave.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at December 26, 2007 2:15 PM

Personally couldn't care less if Blair converted to Islam-let's face it he's encouraged & supported
Islamic Terrorists for decades in Britain and Kosovo.
BBC describes Blair coming out of Closet Catholic
as 'Moving'...As MOVING as a bowel motion & just as stinky!

Posted by: Morgane at December 26, 2007 2:17 PM

The bottom line is the Gaurdian is noted nation-wide as a muslim-appeasing leftist rag , and nothing that appears in it is given a great deal of credibility by anyone that matters . In fact it just prooves anyone critisizing the gaurdian as hypocritical , preachy liberal toilet paper ; absoloutely correct and makes the paper itself look pathetically biased .

The only thing that sickens me about this ; is that even the most anti-islamic newspapers in the UK still reiterate the "noble islamic majority" fables ....

Posted by: Rikki at December 26, 2007 2:44 PM

Why has the Guardian allowed itself to become a mouthpiece of Moslem agit-prop?

For the same reason you don't find feminist groups like NOW criticising the way Muslim males treat women, or why the Left is silent on human rights abuses in Islamic nations or why the Left routinely vilifies Christianity and promotes Islam.

Or why you'll never see a post at famous liberal watering holes like Dailykos or HuffingtonPost warning about the threat that Islam poses to the west.

IOW because the Left is hostile to western values and beliefs and Christianity in particular. This makes them natural allies of militant or pro-Shariah Muslims who like the Left despises the west and want to see it overthrown.

Posted by: waltc at December 26, 2007 2:59 PM

Waltc , I agree with you on this , but it's still baffling to me why they actually think an alliance with a theocratic anti-liberal , anti-freedom , pro-absolutist cult is possible . Do they ignorantly assume muslims will be as willing to put aside their grievences with liberalism , as liberals are to turn their back on their traditional causes .

Also , how do they think this alliance would work or end up should their dream goal of western destruction actually become a reality . How would people who believe in absolutely no boundaries share their victory and split their conquered territory with an ideology which asserts complete fascistic control over it's populace ?

Posted by: Rikki at December 26, 2007 3:18 PM

It really doesn't matter why Blair converted to Roman Catholicism; he's a politician, and as such his motives are bound to be tinged by political calculations, domestic/familial or national/international.

What matters is what Robert noticed: that an important newspaper has published an easily refutable bunch of lies, a piece of stincking propaganda. Lies and nothing but lies. There's not a single word about Islam in Mansoor's article that's not a boldface lie. Not a single thought that stands up to scrutiny. Not a single underlying "emotion," including the wish that Blair had converted to Islam, that's not hypocrisy and rhetorical ploy.

If this piece of trash had been manufactured in the ideological labs of the Soviets/North Koreans/etc., I would have shrugged and moved on. But The Guardian is a British newspaper that takes itself seriously and regularly trashes the tabloids out for a profit for the evil capitalists and neo-colonialists and so on and so forth.
If that't the case, all I can say is: Bring me more stories about Sienna Miller and Elizabeth Hurley and the McCann girl! At least they are realtively true.

Posted by: ovidius_naso at December 26, 2007 3:25 PM

Mr Masroor wants to whine about the Crusades.

Fine. But his whinge can and should be answered: by a joint letter from Catholic and Anglican Sudanese refugees, reminding people of the blood of thousands upon thousands of Christian and animist African villagers murdered by Muslim thugs howling Allahu Akhbar, not in the distant past, but in the past thirty years and counting.

The Armenians could remind everyone of the Armenian Holocaust - one million defenceless people slaughtered by Muslims in an orgy of sickening cruelty, as recently as 1915.

The Jews should chip in, with a list of all the Jewish communities mass-murdered within the Empire of Islam, starting with those 600 men beheaded at Mohammed's orders, who might have lived had they bowed to Mohammed's allah, but who chose rather to die kiddush haShem; and concluding with events such as the pogrom in Safed in the early 19th century, the massacre in Hebron in 1929 and the pogroms in Baghdad in the 1930s and 1940s.

The Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs should add THEIR witness - an estimated sixty to eighty million people, most of them non-combatants butchered systematically as blood sacrifices to 'allah' and tickets to paradise for the Muslims, after their fighting men had lost battles which the Muslims had started.

And how about a list of all those Buddhist shopkeepers, schoolteachers, rubber tappers and unarmed monks who've been murdered this year and last year and the year before, in the course of Jihad in Thailand?

Between Andrew Bostom, K S Lal, Bat Yeor, 'The Barnabas Fund', 'Voice of the Martyrs', and the 'religionofpeace' website, it should be possible to put together a pretty damning indictment of the river of blood that has been created by Islam's mass murderers, down the centuries and even in the present day.

Add Surah 9: 5 and Khomeini's notorious "Kill, kill, kill!" speech; then add the following: "The Crusades were summoned in self-defence after Christendom had suffered 400 years of Muslim Jihad. So also the Sikhs were created as India's self-defence against Muslim Jihad. The IDF defends Israel and the Jews against Muslim Jihad. India, Thailand, the Philippines, Ethiopia and the people of the southern Sudan are defending themselves, today, against the violence and hatred of the Jihad".

Send it to every major newspaper in Britain; but also make it into a poster and plaster it on walls in every public square in Britain.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at December 26, 2007 3:55 PM

To put it quiet Bluntly I don't give a dam whether he converts to Catholicism, or converts from Electricity to Gas the sickly fawning of the man gets up my nose, the Guardian well that piece of rough toilet paper has been worth a sh*t, since it dropped the word Manchester from its name. In the mean time our enemies are planing to screw us Dimmi's for even more of our hard earned cash. For sheer chutzpa the Jews have nothing on this. Anyway to all the good readers enjoy the rest of your Christmas Holidays and let us hope that we get through the new year with a whole skin, and enjoy the following that I found , I am sorry it OT it would be quiet funny but these are serious

In a potential blow to themed resorts from Vegas to Tokyo, Egypt is to pass a law requiring payment of royalties whenever its ancient monuments, from the pyramids to the sphinx, are reproduced.
Zahi Hawass, the charismatic and controversial head of Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities, told AFP on Tuesday that the move was necessary to pay for the upkeep of the country's thousands of pharaonic sites.
"The new law will completely prohibit the duplication of historic Egyptian monuments which the Supreme Council of Antiquities considers 100-percent copies," he said.
"If the law is passed then it will be applied in all countries of the world so that we can protect our interests," Hawass said.
He said that a ministerial committee had already agreed on the law which should be passed in the next parliamentary session, while insisting the move would not hurt Egyptian artisans.
"It is Egypt's right to be the only copyright owner for these monuments in order to benefit financially so we can restore, preserve and protect Egyptian monuments."

Posted by: Holger Dansker at December 26, 2007 4:03 PM

I hate all this jenkems about Islam's so called scientific or social superiority. Science, democracy, women's rights, gay lib, toleration, and innovations in general flourish in the West but not in those dungheap Islamic excuses for countries. That is all the proof you need, and this: there is not one major technical or liberal arts college of world rank in the Muslim world. Case closed, Blair is a liar just like Boosh.

Posted by: Dumbo at December 26, 2007 4:54 PM

Tony Blair is an idiot for pandering to islam and blathering about its nonexistent peace, scientific achievements, tolerance, equality, etc. How could the leader of one of the greatest nations in the world be so STUPID?! George Bush isn't much better but as far as I know, he's kept his lies to a minimum, claiming only that islam is "peaceful" and "most muslims aren't terrorists." Thank God he hasn't become an expert on the Qur'an, like Mr. Blair.

This article is so full of blatant lies and misrepresentations that it makes me sick to my stomach. Mr. Spencer, please write a rebuttal to this pile of crap! Islam is anathema to modernity, scientific achievement, progress, tolerance, freedom, equality, and peace. The Guardian owes it to their readers to publish an answer to this muslim's lies; you know, "fair and balanced."

Posted by: Susanp at December 26, 2007 9:58 PM

This article reveals much more than that which is at the surface. Why Blair did not become Muslim? When he was uttering all those statements about Islam, was he lying? Or he was being just well intentioned polite, wishing to appease his Muslim citizens? Now he would have learnt that there is no place for appeasement and coexistence in Islam. 'Your appreciation and respect for Islam is meaningless unless you convert to it' - is not opinion of some 'misunderstander of Islam' intent on waging 'inner spiritual struggle' but of a mainstream Muslim columnist. If you appreciate something about the Paganism, there is great chances that Pagan will be touched and would inevitably find something good about your religion and appreciate that. But do not expect any such courtesy from Followers of religion of peace. Every appreciation on your part will embolden them, and they are not going to rest till they have made you submit to themselves or Allah, your submission to Allah also would mean that you have submitted to them (by accepting their beliefs). And that crap about their tolerance of giving special status to Jews and christians by giving special status of people of book! What about rest humans then? What about Chinese, what about Indians, what about Buddhists? This imparting special status to Jews and Christians is only because this falls in their scheme of giving Muslims supreme status.
And it also holds a lesson for most political leaders who praise Islam with a view to appease them. Every Muslim knows that they are lying and do not mean that in heart, unless the convert to Islam.
We all have a grey world view. Most of us agree the horrifying aspects of our past, which we have outgrown. But that does not prevent us from selectively admiring good aspects of it. We can learn lessons from that which was good while rejecting that which was horrible. But not so in Islam. If any one appreciate any tiny part of it, even a modern muslim like this columnist will think that we are praising and approving every bit of it, and more importantly are rejecting every other faith.

Posted by: pagan at December 26, 2007 11:36 PM

There are just so many Baltars' in the World. Replicated over and over again.

Posted by: flowerknife_us at December 27, 2007 4:59 PM

Why good readers of this site do you give the Guardian newspaper valuable column space???. Treat it with the derisable contempt it deserves. Anything, Islamic dhimmis clamour to "submit" is a complete anathema to me. Ignore them, and save good paper!!!.

Posted by: U.K. TODAY. at December 31, 2007 2:11 PM