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For fear of You Know Who. Islamic Tolerance Alert from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist):
...MATT BROWN: It's a small, tight-knit community in one of the world's most intense hot spots. 3000 Christians live amongst 1.5 million Muslims, and the two groups usually get along well.FATHER ARCHEMANDRITE ARTEMIOUS, GAZA GREEK ORTHODOX CHURCH: We don't talk about friendship, we talk about brothership. Both of them are Palestinians but with different religions. Same blood, same nationality.
MATT BROWN: But lately, dark forces have been shadowing the Christians of the Gaza strip. The worshippers have been rocked by a murder.
FATHER ARCHEMANDRITE ARTEMIOUS: Afraid, very sad, they have a lot of questions.
MATT BROWN: Anisa Ayyad's son, Rami, has been killed. He was a prominent and vocal advocate for his faith. Ramzi Ayyad believes his brother was killed by a radical Muslim.
RAMZI AYAD, BROTHER (translated): Rami was well known in the Christian society as a very strong believer. He spent most of his time in the Church praying and teaching others, so he stood out.
MATT BROWN: In the lead up to the murder, Christians were targeted in a string of escalating attacks. And Christians and Muslims alike have been alarmed.
FATHER ARCHEMANDRITE ARTEMIOUS: For Christians, after what happened to Rami, so they are afraid to be here because they see bombing, then they see shooting, then they see hitting and then they see killing. What is the next one?
MATT BROWN: His family are Greek Orthodox Christians, but Rami Ayyad was a member of the Baptist Church, the only Evangelical Church in the Gaza strip.
When Rami Ayyad was confronted by Islamic radicals, he was warned to convert to Islam or face the judgement of God.
PASTOR HANNA MASSAD, GAZA BAPTIST CHURCH: He told us he would never give up his faith, even if it will cost him his life.
MATT BROWN: The tension was mounting. Then, finally, Rami Ayyad was stalked, kidnapped and killed.
PASTOR HANNA MASSAD: We believe it's because of his faith. They, the militant group who didn't like Christian and they tried to put pressure on him and when he continued to hold to his faith, they killed him.
MATT BROWN: The Islamist militant group, Hamas, seized control of Gaza in June and the eyes of the world have been upon them ever since. Hamas is more moderate than groups like al-Qaeda or the Taliban and it promised to safeguard the Christian minority. So it was alarmed at the message the execution of such a well known Christian could send.
AHMAD YUSSUF, HAMAS SPOKESMAN: Killing somebody who is a Christian, this will give the impression that there is a divide between the Muslims and the Christians and Hamas started it in Christian.
MATT BROWN: Some in Gaza believe al-Qaeda inspired radicals have been testing the limits under Hamas. A special team of the Hamas executive force has been ordered to investigate. The trail leads deep into the murky world of Gaza's gunmen, political factions and crime families. And Hamas has promised a sceptical Christian community it will catch the culprit.
AHMAD YUSSUF: He must go to justice and must be punished on his criminal act.
FATHER ARCHEMANDRITE ARTEMIOUS: For now, we're waiting. As they promised, that they'll find (inaudible) that killed Rami. So we're waiting.
MATT BROWN: Many Christians say there's a growing intolerant Islamist sentiment in Gaza, one Hamas has failed to quash. Church leaders complain that Hamas hasn't done enough to counter anti Christian incitement in the prayer rooms of Gaza's mosques....
Failed to quash? Why would they want to quash it? They want it to grow.
Posted by Robert at December 30, 2007 7:05 AM
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The Islamist militant group, Hamas, seized control of Gaza in June and the eyes of the world have been upon them ever since. Hamas is more moderate than groups like al-Qaeda or the TalibanJust like a bullet through your head is better than two bullets.
and it promised to safeguard the Christian minority.Just like the fox saafeguards" the hen.
So it was alarmed at the message the execution of such a well known Christian could send.Yes, and we have the exact comment made by a high official in the Hamas gang:
"WHAT?! How come someone got him before we did? Man, we are slacking!"Posted by: Crusader
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at December 30, 2007 7:58 AM
This is not the first incident, and certainly not the last. The problem is for the Christians in Gaza, Samaria, Judea, Lebanon and Iraq, that nobody seems to care whether they survive or not, and soon there will be very few, if any, to care for.
Here is what the Jerusalem Post reported before Christmas:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1196847287392&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
at December 30, 2007 10:16 AM
This is not the first incident, and certainly not the last. The problem is for the Christians in Gaza, Samaria, Judea, Lebanon and Iraq, that nobody seems to care whether they survive or not, and soon there will be very few, if any, to care for.
Here is what the Jerusalem Post reported before Christmas:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1196847287392&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
at December 30, 2007 10:18 AM
How does this square with a full page advert in many British Sunday newspapers taken out by numerous muslims and islamic organisations that goes as follows:
“A Muslim Message of Thanks and of Christmas and New Year Greetings,
December 2007
In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
May God bless Muhammad and his kin and bless Abraham and his kin
Al-Salaamu Aleikum; Peace be upon you; Pax Vobiscum
Peace be upon Jesus Christ who says: Peace is upon me the day I was born, the day I die, and the day I am resurrected
(Chapter of Mary; the Holy Qur'an; 19:33).
During these joyful holidays we write to you, our Christian neighbors all over the world, to express our thanks for the beautiful and gracious responses that we Muslims have been receiving from the very first day we issued our invitation to come together to 'A Common Word' based on 'Love of God and Love of Neighbor' (see www.acommonword.com for the document and the responses).
We thank you and wish you all a joyous and peaceful Christmas Holiday Season commemorating the birth of Jesus Christ, may peace be upon him.
We Muslims bear witness that: There is no god but God, without associate, and that Muhammad is His Servant and Messenger, and that Jesus is His Servant, His Messenger, His Word cast to Mary, and a Spirit from Him ....
(Sahih Bukhari, Kitab Ahadith al-Anbiya ).
We pray, during these blessed days, which have coincided with the Muslim feast of the Hajj or Pilgrimage, which commemorates the faith of the Prophet Abraharn (peace be upon him), that the New Year may bring healing and peace to our suffering world.
God's refusal to let Abraham (peace be upon him) sacrifice his son - granting him instead a ram - is to this day a Divine warrant and a most powerful social lesson for all the followers of the Abrahamic faiths, to ever do their utmost to save, uphold and treasure every single human life and especially the life of every single child. Indeed, it is worthy of note that this year Muslim scholars issued a historic declaration affirming the sanctity of human life - of every human life - as an essential and foundational teaching in Islam upon which all Muslim scholars are in unanimous agreement (see details at www.duaatalislam.com).
May the coming year be one in which the sanctity and dignity of human life is upheld by all. May it be a year of humble repentance before God, and mutual forgiveness within and between communities.
Praise be to God, the Lord of the worlds.”
Oh, I forgot about the duplicitous nature of the doctrine of islam.
Makes me sick!
Posted by: Hermit at December 30, 2007 11:40 AM
And Muslims are coming to help celebrate merry Christmas in a place near you!
20,000 aggrevated Turkish Allawites today gathered in Germany, Cologne, to demonstrate against a TV thriller "Wem Ehre gebührt" - to whom honor is due - aired on the first German channel this last 23rd December 2007.
The fictional TV film dealt in solving the criminal mystery case of an honor killing of a young lady, a Turkish-German national. Since then, there have been ongoing demonstrations in Germany, culminating in the largest public manifestation of today, near the Dome of Cologne.
Ali Ertan Toprak, organizer of the demonstration compared the stigmatizing of his compatriots to the centuries old prejudice against Jews, the allegation of ritual murder of Christian children by Jews which for hundreds of years was used to demonize Jews, and later to exterminate them.
The German Minister of Foreign Affairs Frank-Walter Steinmeier called on all parties to show moderation: "Script writers and artists should know: the religious emotions of people, whatever persuasion that may happen to be, must be met with respect, circumspection and trepidation". The minister is Deputy Chairman of the socialist party of Germany, SPD, member of the ruling coalition. But this program does not address a specific group, he said, it is a film about an isolated individual case. "this must not become a cause for a religious culture clash" Steinmeier said.
TV programm director Volker Herres reiterated his offer to enter into a dialogue with representatives if the Turkish Allawite communities in Germany. He expressed regrets that they felt discredited. "We take this critique very seriously. In view of the age old ressentiments to which this community has been exposed to and the religious background, I can appreciate the massive reactions and protests" he said.
German police meanwhile is investigating this case on the grounds of "racial incitement" - can you believe this?
http://www.welt.de/fernsehen/article1496373/Polizei_ermittelt_jetzt_wegen_Volksverhetzung.html
Posted by: Hugo Schmidt-Fischer at December 30, 2007 2:23 PM
Just give the priests guns; apparently they're not ALL into the 'Peace' thing! http://www.breitbart.tv/html/19774.html
(Somehow, the concept of fighting over who GETS to do the cleaning eludes me(?)...;)
Posted by: DaninVan at December 30, 2007 3:48 PM
I followed the link and read the rest of the article.
I do wish that Matt Brown - and the other Australian Broadcasting guy, David Hardaker in Jerusalem - would pick up Bat Yeor's two books - and pay particular attention to the text of the Pact of Omar, the 'template' for dhimmitude. I do wish Mr Brown had read Moshe Gil's "Legacy of Jihad in Palestine"; then he'd know how fatuous - and how false - was his ritual reference to the 'tolerance' of the Empire of Islam, when he wrote - "relations between the two faiths have generally been cordial for centuries". Gil plus Bat Yeor provides ample evidence that Christians everywhere in 'Palestine' were treated like dirt by their arrogant Muslim overlords. James Parkes' "Whose Land" could also have told Matt Brown and David Hardaker a thing or two about the relentless Muslim oppression of Jews and Christians in the Land of Israel after the Muslim conquests.
And then I wish Brown and Hardaker would read the Hamas Charter, all of it, and realize that when Hamas talks about 'protecting' Christians what they mean is reducing Christians to dhimmitude.
Brown didn't even have the sense to realize that, at the end of the article, when he writes that one of the Gazan churches is '1600 years old', that he's just given the evidence that the Christian community, the Christian church, in Gaza PRE-DATE the Muslim Arab invasion and occupation. (In the Australian War Memorial in Canberra there is preserved a gorgeous Byzantine-era church floor mosaic - discovered not far from Gaza, by Australian soldiers in World War One).
If Brown had done his homework he'd also know that there was a Jewish community in Gaza before there were Christians; and that there continued to be a Jewish community in Gaza in Byzantine Christian times (evidence: synagogue floor, 6th century) and that Jews hung on in the city, even after the Muslim invasion, all the way through to the First World War.
The Arab Muslims finally rendered Gaza Judenrein - and they're well on the way to making it Christenrein.
at December 30, 2007 3:55 PM
Dumbledoreamry
I think Mat Brown gave a sympathetic naunced report of a majority in peril from Fundamentalists. Just because he isnt quoting 'Gil plus Bat Yeor' doesnt mean he isnt informed or lacks historical perspective. In fact compared to the BBC which even I find acquiescingly pro-Palestinian he is super objective. Remeber also that Hamas is a terrorist organisation and there are limits to the lanaguage and message one can bring - else it becomes counter productive , dangerous.
Posted by: David Xavier at December 31, 2007 7:35 AM
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