The Saudi sponsored mosques and Muslim Council of Britain are making sure that the UK will be dominated by Islam.

As for our government who keep equating Islam with peace, and burying their heads in the sand, are just ignoring the inevitable.

Attacks against non-Muslims are increasing, although the British press won't see Muslim against non-Muslim as a racist attack.

And in the meantime, bloggers like Lionheart are taken in by police for questioning over "hate crimes", ie telling the truth about Islam and the Islamist crimes comitted against us in our own country.

I support Lionheart's right to have his say, and demand that the UK government applies the same strict hate laws to Islamic sites like MPAC UK, whose hate messages have been blogged by The USeful Idiot.

But at present, it seems there's one law for them, and another for us.

Posted by: Jerusalem Posts at January 6, 2008 8:33 AM

You bet I am islamaphobic and you should be too!
There is nothing irrational about a fear of islam! Only the islamoignorant are not islamophobic.

Posted by: David England at January 6, 2008 8:35 AM

of course there are no go areas....

anyone living in inner cities knows this...

indeed the police even warn normal people to keep people away from a part of manchester during eid because they cannot protect people. (or so they claim)

then there is noisy mosques and parking violations every friday.

multiculturalism in britain means not enforcing the law equally for moslems....

the problem is the authorities are actually making things such that normal people don't want moslems in the country when in fact most moslems get on fine and would continue to do so without the unhelpful government meddling....

Posted by: exposesithlords at January 6, 2008 9:26 AM

"They'll always be an England."

My mother recalled that people would say this with a little catch in their voice during the Blitz in WW II.

I hope it is not too late to save the UK. Great Britain has a right to exist and a right to defend itself.

Posted by: tanstaafl at January 6, 2008 9:32 AM

Its actually worse than that:

Did JW/DW cover the Lionheart case?

http://sheikyermami.com/2008/01/06/a-salute-to-lionheart/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at January 6, 2008 9:34 AM

I say send them packing!

Posted by: lonewolf at January 6, 2008 9:44 AM

Bishop Nazir-Ali, whose father converted from Islam to Catholicism, was criticised by Ibrahim Mogra, of the Muslim Council of Britain. He said: "It's irresponsible for a man of his position to make these comments.

"He should accept that Britain is a multicultural society in which we are free to follow our religion at the same time as being extremely proud to be British.

Muslims love multiculturalism................in the West. Back in the desert lands, which culture has remained alive, proud and independent under islamic occupation?
Secondly, will we retain our freddom of religion once the Muslims make up the majority? Historya says no.

We wouldn't allow 'no-go' areas to happen.

But you did. What are you doing to stop that? Will you join the law, and work side by side with them to combat that Christophobia, Judeophobia and Caucasiophobia that exists among Muslims? Or will avoid that lest you be tagged as an "unbeliever", thus making your blood "halal"?

I smell extreme intolerance when people criticise multiculturalism without proper evidence of what has gone wrong."

What you smell or don't smell doesn't interess me. Coming from a Muslim, I am sure you smell a lot of things around you, specially when you open the filthy Qur'an. Secondly, why can't we criticize multiculturalism? We live in a free society, and we are free to legally expand on our disgrament with one of our leader's policies. Posted by: Crusader at January 6, 2008 10:32 AM

From shiek yer mami's site:

http://sheikyermami.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/democrat.jpg

Posted by: darcy at January 6, 2008 10:35 AM

Time to arrest the pastors again. Geez, how many years has it been since preachers went to jail for standing up to tyrants in England. Everything old is new again! John Bunyan, call your lawyer.

Posted by: Jauhara Al-Kafirah at January 6, 2008 11:33 AM

Leo McKinstry discussed this in wonderful fashion on BBC Radio Five Live this morning:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy9G7EBw1Yc

Posted by: DB at January 6, 2008 12:19 PM

And this is what Leftists and brain damaged conservatives desire for the U.S.

5 years from now we'll probably have Moslem only enclaves as well that are exempt from law enforcement and city ordinances.

Posted by: waltc at January 6, 2008 12:46 PM

Greetings:

I was disappointed to find out that the Bishop of Rochester said. I am sure that radical Anglicans will be starting their War on Islam shortly.

I would love to see what his comments do to Ronan, Archbishop of Canterbury, lovely eyebrows. I bet they go all a twitter.

Posted by: 11B40 at January 6, 2008 1:04 PM

I experienced this first hand whilst working on Drummond Street Euston London. The community are muslim with militant gangs of muslims, drug dealers. Witnessed first hand a stolen car used to block off drummond street, yards away from Euston transport police station. The youths threw stones and then tried to attack white drivers. One taxi driver was called white ****. The police arrived, moved the car and left. Youths came back and started to attack the cars in our car park (photo store on drummond street). Cops came, told the "lads" to move then left again. We were threatened with racist language. On the day of 9/11 fake bomb was placed outside the photo store, which incidentally is american owned. Here's a list of London gangs...http://pic2.piczo.com/gangsinlondon/?g=10384303&cr=2

"Drummond Street Boys – Drummond Street Area"

I witnessed many gang fights from my kitchen windown in Regents Park Estate between Somers town gangs, Drummond street gangs and their rival white gang "Cumbo boys" who lived in Regents Park estate. The cops would turn up, lights flashing and do nothing.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at January 6, 2008 1:36 PM

Hey leon,

Are you familiar with Nazir-Ali? Has he spoken out on immigration before?

I mean from this article he says the right things. How soon until Mr. Bean, I mean the Archbishop of Canterbury, berates his bishop?

Posted by: Kevin at January 6, 2008 2:07 PM

As we speak the other Mr Bean (Brown) will be deep in dialogue with his cohorts at the Muslim council of Great Britain, introducing yet more (Pro Islamic) terror laws to silence this Christian upstart and his "racist views"!!!. How dare a man of God question the Cult of Islam.

Posted by: U.K. TODAY. at January 6, 2008 2:21 PM

Kev

The only people that are speaking out against PC culture in the UK are the BNP, UKIP and people like trevor philips (black) Nazir-Ali (Asian) and that chap who i cannot get his name, the leader of the Barnados Organisation, they are all ethnic minorities. Confusing eh?

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at January 6, 2008 2:26 PM

U.K. TODAY.,
Thanks, couldn't remember the other Rowan's last name. Didn't feel like looking or it for such a short post.

leon,
You ain't kidding. Sounds to me they have embraced what it is to be British. Of course that's just an American's take. UKIP I have never heard of, I know how American.lol The BNP I have from you. And since I have seen some of the hatred thrown at the BNP on your site, excellent BTW, I can properly deduce that they are on the right track, at least on the immigration issue. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

A question for any current or former British citizen.
Does the Church of England have something akin to "excommunication" like the Catholics?

Posted by: Kevin at January 6, 2008 3:35 PM

Two comments from the Telegraph

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When speaking of Catholics, John Locke correctly pointed out that no citizen could truly be trusted who placed a foreign power above his own government. This is the very basis for the Church of England. A non-christian who places a foreign custom or religious tenant is no different. Faced with a religion or cult which would advocate treason that nation has a natural right to expel and expunge all adherants to such a foreign power. This is not a complex question.
Posted by Stephen L. Hall, Esq. on January 6, 2008 6:06 PM
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Well said Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, unless we speak openly we cannot hope to tackle the problem. Your words ring true in my personal experience.
Posted by Will on January 6, 2008 5:50 PM
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For so long the world has been at the mercy of Britain. Now britain shall have a taste of its own medicine. How can you blame muslims when the west is in constant war with Islam.
Posted by Jaheid on January 6, 2008 5:49 PM

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Posted by: Borg at January 6, 2008 3:48 PM

"To suggest that a handful of people are beginning to create such areas where nobody else can go unless they are Muslim needs evidence to back such claims." the response from Muslim council of "Great Britain". Of course he has no proof! You think that the "social Engineers" the cultural marxists within the Metropolitan police HQ are gonna hand over damaging information like that. Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali I suggest that you hire some body guard, and plan your escape ,they will come for you.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at January 6, 2008 4:28 PM

Dave England

You bet I am islamaphobic and you should be too!
There is nothing irrational about a fear of islam! Only the islamoignorant are not islamophobic.

Dave it is impossible to be islamophobic. To suffer from a phobia you have to have an IRRATIONAL FEAR. I can assure you your fears are not irrational, therefore you do not suffer from a phobia in any way shape or form. Therefore you cannot be islamophobic. QED.

Our politicians are scum, which I am certain you already know. Most of the lot we have got now lack any morals or ethics, and are out to look after number one. The amount of fiddling with housing allowances by our MPs is beyond description. I am only waiting to Mr Blair and Brown when he leaves office to be invited to the middle East to receive a million pounds for a lecture the way Clinton and his ilk, were. This is the only really legal way that the Muslims, who have bought and paid for them can pay them there bribe. We unfortunately along with our children and children's children will be left to pay the price. They have also made sure that they cannot be bought to justice, as Blair got rid of Treason from the statute books in I think 1997 by Royal degree.

Posted by: Holger Dansker at January 6, 2008 5:01 PM

May God bless, guide, protect and strengthen Bp Nazir-Ali - and his fellow bishop in England, Bp Patrick Sookhdeo, who wrote a book of dire warning called 'Islam in Britain' and has no illusions whatever about Islam's totalitarian aspirations and underhanded methods.

Pray that these, and others (there *are* others) may be able to turn the Anglican Communion around, and free it of dhimmitude.

A bishop is, literally, episkopos, 'overseer'. A bishop gets the reports from the ground, from all the priests within his diocese.

Who knows what reports have been pouring in to Bp Nazir-Ali, from Anglican parish priests in urban and semi-urban parishes? Who knows what letters he has received from parishioners?

Remember, a while ago, the stories about two converts from Islam to Christianity, 'Hannah' and 'Sofia', who - IN BRITAIN, CHRISTIAN-MAJORITY/ SECULAR BRITAIN - have to live in hiding because their murderous Muslim families were pursuing them with death threats, as per the sharia requirement that apostates should be executed. I'm sure that Bp Sookhdeo and Bp Nazir-Ali - and, perhaps, other bishops who are as yet not game to speak up - have a thick file full of the names of all the other Muslim-background-believers that the Church is having to hide. Betcha the Catholics and other Christian churches in Britain are also having to hide and protect the ex-Muslims whom they baptised with such joy and hope.

Same goes for Bp Sookhdeo - who runs the 'Barnabas Fund', helping persecuted Christian communities within dar al Islam.

They know. Let us hope they can open the eyes of the Synod.

The church - not just the Anglicans, but the Catholics, the Orthodox, the Free Churches - has every right to demand, loudly and repeatedly, that the secular authorities Do Their Job, that is, resolutely enforce the law of the land, which is NOT Muslim sharia law, upon all citizens and in all parts of the country, so as to defend political and intellectual freedom and protect human life (in particular, the lives of those ex-Muslims, be they Christians or atheists, who are being murderously hunted by their ever-lovin' Muslim kin).

Everyone here who is a member of the Episcopal church, or of the Anglican Communion, should be writing to Bp Nazir-Ali, and *also* to his colleague Bp Sookhdeo, who is similarly outspoken, to express their support. Substantial donations to the Barnabas Fund would be a good idea, too.

Letters to the 'Telegraph' editor, commending him and Jonathan Wynne-Jones the journalist for publishing Bp Nazir-Ali's words, would be in order from all jihad/ dhimmi watchers, not just Britons.

This story made it into Australian mainstream media - I encountered it on ABC [Australian Broadcasting Commission] news online, before I read it at dhimmi watch; the ABC headlined it "UK Bishop Warns on Islamic No-Go Zones". Here's the ABC version of the story:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/01/07/2132703.htm?section=world

Note particularly the soundbite from the Muslim Council of Britain at the end of the ABC version. I quote - "The Muslim Council of Britain, which the British Government considers a moderate voice, says the Bishop might be worried about the decline of Christianity, but says 'scaremongering' about Muslims is an unethical way to reverse it."

I leave it to others here to deconstruct the multiple nastinesses of the MCB sneer.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at January 6, 2008 5:30 PM

Ladies and gentlemen -

following Robert's link I found the 'no-go areas' story and the original quote from the MCB.

It is very instructive to compare what the MCB spokesman said, with the version that made it into the ABC report.

MCB, as originally quoted in the Telegraph:
"Inayat Bunglawala, assistant secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, said:

"Bishop Nazir-Ali appears to be exercised by what he perceives as the decline in the influence of Christianity upon this country, but trying to frantically scaremonger about Islam and Muslims seems to us to be a rather unethical way of trying to reverse this.

"He talks about the rise of 'Islamic extremism' but fails to mention how some of the policies of our government and especially that of the United States in the Middle East over several decades now has clearly contributed to this phenomenon."

Can't you just hear the sneer? Note the triumphalism, the 'blame the victim'/ 'the Jihad is all *your* fault' ploy [which is also a hidden threat - 'change your foreign policy or we turn loose the suicide bombers'], and the veiled appeal to Palestinianism/ antisemitism at the end?

ABC sanitised version:
"The Muslim Council of Britain, which the British Government considers a moderate voice, says the Bishop might be worried about the decline of Christianity, but says 'scaremongering' about Muslims is an unethical way to reverse it."

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at January 6, 2008 5:44 PM

Robert's link above takes you to an article entitled 'extremism flourished as UK lost Christianity'; embedded within this is a link to a second article entitled 'bishop warns of no-go areas for non-Muslims', which is *the* one to read.

That one mentions that Bp Nazir-Ali was not alone in expressing his concerns.

"The Rt Rev Nicholas Reade, the Bishop of Blackburn, which has a large Muslim community, said that it was increasingly difficult for Christians to share their faith in areas where there was a high proportion of immigrants of other faiths".

In other words: Muslims are imposing the dhimma, forbidding Christians to publicly express their faith or explain it to others.

(Betcha any Hindus, Sikhs or Jews in or near the Muslim-dominated areas are also suffering harassment and threats from the Muslims, attacks on individuals who venture onto Muslim 'turf' and attacks on their houses of worship. And I'll bet that they too, if they complain, as Bps Nazir-Ali and Reade have done here, are accused of being scaremongers, liars, racist, bigoted, etc etc.)

The talkbacks for the 'no-go areas' article are mostly quite sensible - the Muslim apologists/ sneerers, and their dhimmi enablers, appear to be in the minority. Lots of Infidels talking about personally experiencing explicitly Muslim aggression and bullying in those 'no go' areas. So, dhimmi watchers, and jihad watchers, click on the links, read the articles, and MAKE A COMMENT!

I sent in a comment giving a short list of 'books to read' (Spencer, of course!) and some juicy quotes from the Quran and Ibn Ishaq, besides Tina Magaard and Jacques Ellul on Islam as a religion of war. Now to see if it gets in.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at January 6, 2008 6:50 PM

Bishop Nazir-Ali deserves all the support he can get. I have read with interest the post by leonthepigfarmer because many years ago I used to eat occasionally in an Indian Hindu vegetarian restaurant in Drummond Street near Euston Station in London. In the late 1970s it began to be surrounded by rather dubious looking Muslim kebab and curry houses. I wonder if it's still there?

Around 1980 Camden Council built council flats north of Euston Road in Somers Town and on the corner of Euston Road and the the road up to Camden Town. Compared to what most Camden Council tenants were living in at the time these were rather nice-seeming modern units. So I was amazed to discover when the flats (US = apartments) were let that these were virtually wholly occupied by recent settlers from Bangladesh while indigenous working class white people remained in the unpleasant old flats around Euston or never made it into these new flats from the waiting lists.

There is undoubtedly a natural ghetto wherever Muslims congregate in any numbers in Britain but this was institutional ghetto-isation deliberately created by Camden Council's Housing Department. This is exactly what happened in the Brick Lane area in Tower Hamlets too, but a decade and a half earlier.

It won't be long now before it will be too late to avoid civil strife originating in the Muslim-occupied areas of Britain. Already one can see outside any mosque during and after Friday prayers - the illegally parked cars, the way the men block the sidewalk, the sheer assertion of presence. The feeling is tangible: they regard these as their streets and the kafur better prepare to accept it....

No doubt Inayat Bungawala will be alleging all the coming week that Bishop Ali-Nazir is quite wrong in his comments. I suggest that Bungawala accompanied by some of his white dhimmie friends walks around Drummond Street and Somers Town after dark, or parts of Bolton, Blackburn, Bradford, etc, etc. Let him discover how safe he and his white friends really are.

Posted by: moris2 at January 6, 2008 10:50 PM

The Right Reverend Michael Nazir-Ali+ struck me, on the only ocassion that I met him, as a deeply loving and compassionate man: a Christian in the very best sense of the word and a very intelligent man with a firm grasp of his pastoral role as well as a profound intellectualism and wide learning. He struck me as being one of the finest bishops whom I had ever met and he impressed me so deeply, and, believe me, I am not easily impressed, that had his name been put forward to Her Majesty as the next Archbishop of Canterbury instead of Rowan William's then I, as an Anglican, would have had no hesitation in voicing my support for him.

I have read the, comparatively, little that he has written and have been equally impressed by this man in his authorial persona. In his writings he is lucid, logical and clear-headed - he is also compassionate, caring and kind.

In conclusion, when the Right Reverend Michael Nazir-Ali+, and others of his ilk, seek to warn us of trends and developments in our society which they see as being potentially inimicable to our survival as a free society, then I say that we have to listen to him, and to them, and pay heed to his, and their, warnings. Given the man, and his not inconsiderable talents, we would be fools to do otherwise.

When one of the most loving and tolerant of us says quietly and reasonably that enough is enough then, surely, we should be very, very alarmed indeed.

Please support this good episkopos (and the other good men mentioned by dumbledorsarmy in his posts here) in any way that you can. We need them and we need to hear more, very much more, from them in the future.

Posted by: OliverPCamford at January 6, 2008 11:17 PM

"Islamic extremists have created "no-go" areas across Britain where it is too dangerous for non-Muslims to enter, one of the Church of England's most senior bishops warns today."

A truly despicable situation that CANNOT stand!

Posted by: alexon at January 7, 2008 1:26 AM

Support the bishop at the Telegraph's website, in the comments linked to a newer article where Muslims call for him to resign:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/01/07/nmuslim107.xml#form

Posted by: dlp at January 7, 2008 1:53 AM

I noticed these comments from very obvious racist islamophobes on the Telegraph comments thread.

The Bishop is totally correct.

This is a link to a story about a Hindu celebration in East London being attacked.
http://thehinduvoice.com/blog/2007/11/09/durga-puja-celebrations-is-east-london-attacked/

Unlike those of a Liberal/Left/Guardian/Independent reading and BBC watching class, the Bishop hails from a moslem country, he has seen the reality as opposed to lived the "dream" of islam.

In Pakistan, at Partition, 15% of the population was Hindu; it is now 1.5%. In Bangladesh, at Partition, 34% of the population was non-Muslim (Hindu and Buddhist); it is now 7%. Meanwhile, in India, the Muslim percentage of the population steadily rises.

Do not think the horror and violence of religeous warfare will not come to the UK it has and will continue

Posted by Harvinder Singh Chadha on January 6, 2008 12:03 PM
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I am a Chinese immigrant. I came to this beautiful English country 19 years ago. I married a Yorkshire man and fully integraged into the English society. I love the English way of life. However, my fear has grown along side with the obvious Islamification over the years. Islam is the only religion which will never integrate with any other societies and cultures. I don't understand why this Government welcome the muslims to this beautiful English country.
Posted by Li Lifei on January 6, 2008 2:16 PM

Nothing to see here.

Move along, move along...

I wonder if journalists have ever left their offices. If they had, then they wouldn't need the good bishop to open their eyes for them.

Why would this surprise anyone? Anywhere in the world where Muslims are a majority, non-Muslims are treated like dirt.
Posted by Brian Akira on January 6, 2008 12:17 PM
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RE: Oxford Muslims want call to prayer

Thin edge of the wedge?

Oh well, as the saying goes, if you can't win them....so I left the UK to be a 'Richard Dawkins' athiest expat in Dubai!...at-least enjoy tax free salaries while bearing it!
Posted by manoj on January 6, 2008 4:44 AM

First we have to ask: what is multiculturalism? Does it mean all cultures living together or segregated ghettos? Next we have to ask: what is secularism? Does it imply respect for all religions and living together or no-go ghettos areas with other religious people being not tolerated.

The above multiculturalism and secularism can survive only if we limit our culture and religion to our homes and our religious places. They can succeed only if all believe in live and let live and respect each others culture and religion.

Instead, if we are obsessed with the religion and do not tolerate other religious people as Muslims are doing in most of the places and nations, then most of the Muslims do not know how to adjust themselves to multiculturalism and secularism. If it is problem in one nation, yes we can say that it is problem with Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and so on. If the problems of non-Muslims are same, then whom can we blame?

Here Bishop Nazir Ali is 200 percent correct and the MCB's Ibrahim Mogra is 100 percent wrong. Let these Mogras not misinterpret terms and misuse freedoms.

Let me end with a question to Muslims or any fanatic from any other religion: if Christians of Britain were not tolerant or practiced what they are facing, would these fanatics giving lectures would have been permitted into Britain, stay in Britain and talk the way Ibrahim Mogras are speaking!
Regards,
Posted by Krishna R. Kumar on January 6, 2008 4:34 AM

I wonder if Rev Michaeli is correct in
his statement,or is it? This is purely
hearsay-may be, I am not sure, if it's
true then Lord help us all:
Cllr Ken Tiwari(Oxford UK)
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Posted by: apostate_islam at January 7, 2008 2:58 AM

apostate-islam

I too read those comments - thanks for copying and posting them here; not all readers/ visitors will have time to trawl through the stories and comments at the 'Telegraph' online. It is striking that non-Muslim British citizens of non-white immigrant origin - two Hindu Indians, a Chinese and an African - have piped up to support the bishop's truth-telling. He is not just speaking for the Christians!

I think for every such person posting a comment at the Telegraph there are probably hundreds or even thousands more - Hindus, Jews, Sikhs, Buddhists, and plain old secular visit-the-church-once-a-year Britons - who read the story in the Tele, heard it on radio or saw it on TV news, then leapt out of their sofas, did a dance around the living room, and yelled 'YESS!!! TELL IT LIKE IT IS, MR BISHOP!'

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at January 8, 2008 5:16 PM