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"John Reid should not come to a Muslim area, we do not want to see him." -- UK jihadist Abu Izzadeen, September 2006. The "Muslim area" in question, in which Britain's Home Secretary was not welcome, was East London.
But now, 15 months later, we learn that to suggest that some Muslims hold such attitudes, and that unbelievers may be unwelcome and unsafe in some Muslim areas, is a demonstration of "hatred." None of these Muslim leaders, continuing their consistent pattern of total evasion of responsibility, say anything like, "The bishop has a point. We need to integrate more," or "We need to be careful not to make non-Muslims feel unwelcome in predominantly Muslim areas," or anything similar. It's all his fault.
"Muslims call for 'no-go' CoE bishop to resign," by Caroline Gammell in the Telegraph (thanks to Larwyn):
Religious groups have demanded the resignation of the Bishop of Rochester after he claimed that Islamic radicals had turned parts of Britain into "no-go" areas for non-Muslims.The Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali wrote in The Sunday Telegraph that fundamentalism had made some communities hostile to Christians and those from other faiths.
But Mohammed Shafiq, from the Ramadhan Foundation, said: "Mr Nazir-Ali is promoting hatred towards Muslims and should resign."Ajmal Masroor, of the Islamic Society of Great Britain, said: "It's a distortion of reality. Our communities are far more integrated than they were 10 years ago.
"If the Church of England had an iota of fairness they would take serious action."
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Ajmal Masroor, of the Islamic Society of Great Britain, said: "It's a distortion of reality. Our communities are far more integrated than they were 10 years ago.
Which country is he talking about exactly? I live in Britain and it certainly isn't here. I assume, when he says they are more "integrated" he actually means they have created seperate communities totally at odds with their hosts. The muslim community in my town is totally seperate with children born here raised as if they are living in Pakistan. They DO NOT INTEGRATE.
It's time we stop listening to these blatant lies and used our eyes.
The Big Lie is a propaganda technique. It was defined by Adolf Hitler in his 1925 autobiography Mein Kampf as a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".
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at January 7, 2008 3:24 AM
Too true DaveMate. My wife works with muslims at the hospital. The kids go to a muslim school. They don't celebrate Thanksgiving.(I'm hoping you are familiar with our version) Saying it's a religious holiday. Which is a total lie. Nor do they celebrate the 4th of July. Now in no way does the 4th resemble a religious holiday. They don't see themselves as American.
Posted by: Kevin at January 7, 2008 3:40 AM
if only some of the christian religious leaders would get together and demand that most of these imams resign over their promoting hatred which is Islam and it's teachings. It's time the west started getting mad.
Posted by: is_LAME at January 7, 2008 4:06 AM
At least the solid support for the Bishop in the comments section was a heartening sign.
Of course there was a dissenting voice - from one Yusuf Islam. Don't know what the bee in his bonnet is.
Posted by: Brett_McS at January 7, 2008 5:57 AM
Of course there was a dissenting voice - from one Yusuf Islam.Posted by: Brett_McS at January 7, 2008 5:57 AM
Yusuf Islam would be Cat Stevens and may he rot.
Posted by: Shy Guy at January 7, 2008 6:12 AM
Muslims are always "angry" about something it seems, yet it is everyone else that is promoting "hate."
Very strange for a "religon of peace" to be so preoccupied with "everyone elses anger and hate."
What else do muslims hate?
Posted by: witness at January 7, 2008 6:22 AM
The article quotes the Tory William Hague as saying:
"I don't think that view is factually correct. I'm not sure where these no-go areas are, I don't recognise that description"
You aren't worried about alienating the Muslim block vote by any chance are you William?
Posted by: watling at January 7, 2008 6:34 AM
Below is an example from November 2007 of a no-go area for fire crews in Bradford, where:
A number of fires have been deliberately started to lure crews to the Amberley Street area, off Barkerend Road, where they have then been stoned by gangs of youths.
Councillor Ghazanfer Khaliq said:
I will be speaking to the local mosques about this and I think that the local community needs to take strong action. These people must be caught and prosecuted before someone is killed.
Sort of gives the game away about the religion of the stone throwing "youths", doesn't it?
See:
Posted by: watling at January 7, 2008 6:57 AM
You can't make this stuff up.
Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop at January 7, 2008 6:57 AM
Here is a report from 2002 about Lund Park in Keithley, West Yorkshire (William Hague - the Shadow Foreign Secretary and no-go area denier - is from Yorkshire).
Chief Superintendent Graham Sunderland says high visibility police patrols are being stepped up in the area to crack down on a minority of "thugs and bullies".
And he called on residents to help police stop those responsible for terrorising residents.
His comments -- contrary to fears expressed by Town Mayor Councillor Martin Leathley that it is becoming a no-go park -- follow yet another attack in the area by a gang of Asian youths, this time on a 14-year-old youth.
The incident follows an assault on a 41-year-old man the day before as he walked through the park.
Rather predictably:
Khadim Hussain, manager of the Sangat Centre, is organising a meeting with community members next week to discuss the issues.
He said: "We are trying to get parents together to look at possible solutions from a community perspective."
"People from across the community should be free to go anywhere free from violence. I don't think there's anywhere in Keighley that is a no-go area. We have held community impact meetings already and a lot of work has been done in the area to encourage community cohesion."
For "community" read "Muslim community". When he says: "I don't think there's anywhere in Keighley that is a no-go area" he forgot to add "for Muslims".
See:
http://archive.cravenherald.co.uk/2002/10/11/120791.html
Posted by: watling at January 7, 2008 7:15 AM
"...Muslims demand resignation of Church of England bishop who spoke of "no-go" areas for non-Muslims..."
....Muslims hate the truth, especially when the Infidels know it....
at January 7, 2008 7:30 AM
Who exacly died and made Muslims the moral compass in Brittish society?
"If the Church of England had an iota of fairness they would take serious action."Yes. They should congratulate the bishop for saying something things that the multy-culty suicide media is afraid (or unwilling) to say. Posted by: Crusader
at January 7, 2008 7:47 AM
and the Islamic Campaign Against Truth continues...
Teach the infidels. Call the recording at (360) 326-6730 to learn how.
at January 7, 2008 8:13 AM
Islam reminds me of this chapter of “The Twilight Zone”.
“It’s a good life”
The adults tiptoe nervously around him, constantly telling him how everything he does is "good", since displeasing him can get them wished away "to the cornfield", where they are presumably met by a less-than-happy ending.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_a_Good_Life_%28The_Twilight_Zone%29
Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at January 7, 2008 8:19 AM
Uh, Newsflash Mohammed Shafiq - "hate" is an emotion, and an important one. If humans did not have "hate" we would not be able to distinguish between good and evil. For example, Nazis are evil, and it follows that we should hate them.
Ditto Islam. If people consider Islam/Mohammed/Koran evil, and I am in that number, we can certainly hate them.
Posted by: darcy at January 7, 2008 8:42 AM
People, the following link is from the "Sons of Apes and Pigs" website. Look at the photo. Buses in London wear huge signs saying "PROUD TO BE A BRITISH MUSLIM. ISLAM IS PEACE.ORG.UK"
My God, the Orwellian propaganda. If you lived in London you'd have to see that crap on the buses every day. Probably slowly brainwashing the indigenous inhabitants.
http://www.sonsofapesandpigs.org/2008/01/islam-placed-under-the-un-exti.html
Posted by: darcy at January 7, 2008 8:57 AM
The bishop better be careful or the UK thought control police will be out to arrest him for 'stirring up racial hatred.' as well.
This is where hate-crime/speech laws will take us.
at January 7, 2008 9:08 AM
No need to worry. This problem in Great Britain, and in the Netherlands, and France, and Spain, and Germany, and Denmark, and Sweden, and everywhere in Western Europe, will soon be solved. It will be solved because the one-two trillion dollar effort in Iraq will cause Sunnis and Shi'a not to fight with each other, to cause Kurds to reconcile with Arabs, and for all of these groups to unite in one stable state, never to be a threat to, or a victim of, its neighbors, and happily brought the prosperity it deserves by the infusion of American money, and American knowhow, and eager American military and civilian operatives, working to build up the country right now, and for years to come, until of course the revenues from those second-or-perhaps-first-largest-oil-reserves-in-the-world start to come in.
And then, you can be sure, the grateful Iraqis will wish to pay America back, or at least give them back a few hundred billion of the one-two trillion that have been expended.
That will take care of the "no-go" areas in London. That will end all unreasonable demands made on this or that Infidel government, or church. That will take care of the demographic conquest that has been actively discussed in Muslim circles for the past several decades -- beginning, in public, with Boumedienne's speech at the U.N. in 1974, when he told the Europeans, told the French, exactly what would happen, not at all worried that they might actually react and do something about Muslim immigration at that point. And they didn't. And they don't. And they apparently won't. Nor, it seems, will any other country in Western Europe.
Meanwhile, the American governmental and media elites pride themselves on "how different" the situation is with Muslims in this country, but even if that were true (it isn't), they fail to grasp what is happening in Western Europe, and what will be, what are, the obvious consequences for NATO, for the Western alliance, for the very idea of the West and for the possibility of a continuation of Western civilization, or at least of a preservation of its civilizational legacy, to be enjoyed by heirs unworthy of that legacy.
Iraq, Iraq, Iraq. That will take care of it. Let's keep it up in Iraq.
at January 7, 2008 9:15 AM
Muslims can't stand the truth. It reveals too much about their fascistic ideology. The best way to counter this is to keep telling the truth. If enough people keep speaking up, there will be too many cases for the PC/multicultural thought police to go after.
Posted by: Wimbledon Womble at January 7, 2008 9:21 AM
We have seen Muslim demonstrations in Britain and Europe time and time again, but the question is; what percentage are moderate and reject this kind of Islamist behavior towards their host country?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKUoxbR9mwA
Posted by: Mackie at January 7, 2008 9:36 AM
In the articles comment section, I picked up on a phrase that I think I'll use in future remarks to extreme leftists at my office.
"My tolerence for Islam is proportionate to the christian churches in Saudi Arabia"
Posted by: tblab at January 7, 2008 9:44 AM
Sorry, I meant to type:
"My tolerance of Islam is proportional to the number of Christian churches in Saudi Arabia."
at January 7, 2008 9:48 AM
Ajmal Masroor: ' Our communities are far more integrated than they were 10 years ago'
What he means is 'entrenched'- not integrated. He is actually telling us that Muhammedanism is now firmly established to the point of no return.
Because they are here, and they are here to stay, and Islam is 'part of European 'culture'- it always was, didn't you know?
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at January 7, 2008 9:50 AM
People, this is an E-Petition from the "10 Downing Street" website in the UK called "Ban the practice of the Muslim faith in the UK."
Thought you might be interested. Only 835 signatures, however.
Posted by: darcy at January 7, 2008 10:02 AM
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Banmuslimfaithuk/?signed=be773e9.c9a2d8
Above link is the E-Petition.
Posted by: darcy at January 7, 2008 10:03 AM
But Mohammed Shafiq, from the Ramadhan Foundation, said: "Mr Nazir-Ali is promoting hatred towards Muslims and should resign."
But I, ebonystone, from the Brigadoona Foundation, say "Mr. Nazir-Ali is promoting understanding of Moslems and should be propmoted."
Posted by: ebonystone at January 7, 2008 10:38 AM
It appears that telling the truth about Muslim behaviour promotes hatred against Islam.
Any religion which kills those who criticize it is an evil lie. Consider that scholars who wish to do critical and unfettered research on Islam get death threats and must therefore do their research under false names.
If Islam is true, then why avoid critical inquiry? Ahhh .... I forgot! Muslim dignity will be offended. What a convenient way to avoid any criticism. Ooops, I forget, the glorious leader Mohammad killed poets who criticized him too.
This is how it works folks: If you criticize Muslims, Mohammad, Islam, the Koran, you criticize the whole thing. If you do that you have offended the dignity of Muslims it is your fault and you must die. If this is not true dear Muslims, then "Show us the mercy you talk about so much."
Posted by: James Martel at January 7, 2008 11:18 AM
They will get what they want .
Posted by: GrennBeck at January 7, 2008 11:43 AM
It seems that telling the truth is hateful.
Posted by: Dumbo at January 7, 2008 11:47 AM
The Big Lie is a propaganda technique. It was defined by Adolf Hitler in his 1925 autobiography Mein Kampf as a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously". and in islamatropolis aka the middle east Mein Kampf is almost as popular as the Koran is and the unassimilated immigrants from thatarea have remebered hitlers lessons very well
at January 7, 2008 11:59 AM
To be fair, at least they haven't demanded he is handed over to a Sharia court and beheaded live on TV. Well not yet anyway.
Posted by: Celsius at January 7, 2008 2:05 PM
Perhaps when you become a Muslim you are unwittingly induced into a trance like state, that can be activated anytime an alleged attack on Islamic senseabilities comes to pass.
It seems to me every time the ummah exit their Mosque after Friday prayer they've been sprinkled with hatred from accusations within.
Now lets see - what does the Koran teach again??.
Ah yes ---- PEACE!!!.
Posted by: U.K. TODAY. at January 7, 2008 2:26 PM
Celsius...you are absolutely right on the money, except the part about torturing him, removing his privates, then beheading him...
Posted by: AmericanTiger at January 7, 2008 2:38 PM
Now please tell me if I am wrong, but I don't understand this. For me it seems the same, as if I went to my neighbours and told them, that they should release their employees, because I dont like them.
I mean, the church of England is no muslim church. Or could I have the right to ask the Jews to release their rabbi? If they are satisfied with him, its their business, noch mine.
The moslems want to rule over everybody, they simply don't catch it, when they have a right to something and when they behave like silly idiots.
And here there is a bit more about the no-go-areas, May 27th, 2001:
Oldham has been a flashpoint of racial tension in recent weeks, highlighted when Asian youths claimed they wanted to create "no-go zones" for white people
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1354299.stm
By the way, does anybody here bother about the blogger Lionheart? Or what is the general opinion about him and his case?
at January 7, 2008 2:40 PM
"Chief Superintendent Graham Sunderland says high visibility police patrols are being stepped up in the area to crack down on a minority of 'thugs and bullies'."
Since when does one have to make note that "thugs and bullies" (= criminals) are a minority in a neighborhood which is being given the benefit of extra police patrols?
Posted by: Karl Pov at January 7, 2008 2:42 PM
OF course it is extremely difficult to define a "no go" area.
Unlike the 30s when Germans simply put up signs around various towns warning that Jews were not allowed to enter, or could at their own peril, no such official signs barring infidels from entry to so called "no go" areas exist in the UK.
until such enclaves elect sharia law to replace British law, we can at the most argue that non Muslims are not welcomed .
This of course causes cognitive dissonance in the minds of multiculturalists, who deal with the issues by stating that we must do "more" to 'engage with Islamic culture'.The fact that so many consider us as non believers, to be decadent and unclean or "untermensch" for want of a better word, must not be allowed to be uttered as it contradicts the principles of multiculturalism.
well, I don't believe as many do, that such enclaves operating openly under Sharia will happen soon, since this would amount to direct action easily identifiable by even the British Government- who would actually be forced to do something about having British sovereignty swept away from under their feet.
better to simply use the usual indirect, ambiguous, and nebulous tactics, which can easily be excused or ignored by the masochistic neo liberal collaborationist British media.
I can't see how even the BBC would go about excusing the introduction of Sharia in Rochester, for example, without falling foul of the laws of sedition and treachery.
Can anyone?
at January 7, 2008 2:44 PM
Sorry, I meant to type:
"My tolerance of Islam is proportional to the number of Christian churches in Saudi Arabia."
Posted by: tblab at January 7, 2008 9:48 AM
Same here. I fully agree. Besides I also want some tolerance for atheists, for women a.s.o.
Posted by: Kybeline at January 7, 2008 2:45 PM
Kybeline; I'm guessing the "...Asian youths" reference was a direct quote, not your own expression. I'm trying to picture a mass of Vietnamese Catholic youths torching cars and stoning the cops and firefighters...;)
On the Lionheart thing, Charles at LGF had a thought or two, today http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28517_UK_to_Prosecute_Blogger_for_Criticizing_Islam&only
Posted by: DaninVan at January 7, 2008 3:14 PM
Posted by: DaninVan at January 7, 2008 3:14 PM
You guessed it right :)
But you also can read it in the BBC-Link. It was about the Oldham riots, back in 2001. I have started to enlist all the islamic riots in Western Europe, thats how I knew about it.
And thanks for the link. I have just read about it there. Is he realy BNP? And what is so bad about the BNP? I really ask because I have no notion about it. I live in Germany, not in Britain.
Posted by: Kybeline at January 7, 2008 3:59 PM
"Moderate" muslims. A misnomer. There should be two categories for muslims:
1)muslims
2)muslims who would leave islam except for that
little thing about death to apostates.
at January 7, 2008 4:35 PM
Do muslims know that 'fairness' would be for ALL PARTIES involved?
'Fairness' if it is one sided, is not 'fairness'.
Posted by: alaskan1000 at January 7, 2008 4:51 PM
RE Kybeline; We, as human beings are part of the one one six.
The 116 is the number of fully formed personalities that Psychologists/doctors can locate worldwide. We are all amongst them, (with the exception of schizophrenics whom have multiple persona's) there are no more.
This means that whatever our race, culture or creed, we can form alliances with personalities that appeal to our individual likes and dislikes. Thus, the word "race" becomes immaterial.
All over the world, there are people who think like you, act like you, and share your hopes and dreams. If they lived next door they would probably be your best friend!!!.
Your worst enemy also lives around the world. statistically, one in one hundred and sixteen people will be very similar!!!.
Whats wrong with the BNP?.
The BNP don't recognise the above. To them its all about indigenous race and blood. They are in fact a watered down version of Hitlers Nazi party. That Ideology only works if your part of it.
Rather like Islam really!!!.
at January 7, 2008 4:51 PM
To Celsius and others, Dr Nazir-Ali already knows about death threats. The militants from the religion of peace didn't like his ministry as a Bishop in the Church of Pakistan, so they chased him out with such death threats.
That he is standing up and speaking out in this way gives me a bit of heart that there are still a few Christians in the Church of England, and not all New Age Druids, like Rowan Williams at Canterbury. In fact "Nazir-Ali for Canterbury" is perhaps the most appropriate response to the article.
Posted by: Jeff at January 7, 2008 5:08 PM
There shouldn't be "Muslim areas" in Britain.
at January 7, 2008 7:21 PM
Darcy, thanks for the link to sonsofapesandpigs.org. These Coptic Christians have a real battle on their hands. I loved the entry "Blogging the Muslim mind" and will check back frequently for more.
Best Regards,
Presley O'Bannon
at January 7, 2008 7:50 PM
Get video evidence! Get video evidence! Get video evidence!
We live in a media age, and despite the cowardice of the media to engage in critical inquiry of Muslims (notice how they jumped on a Christian leader with their criticism), the internet does provide many opportunities to show what Muslims in the UK are like.
Yes, it is risky, but then we are at war with political Islam. Get some hidden cameras and go into these no-go areas and collect examples of Muslim intolerance. Post it on Youtube or one of the other sites and repeat.
Remember, the white supremacists in the Southern US were defeated when northern liberals started to see their outrageous behavior against blacks who just wanted to sit at a lunch bar.
If the good Bishop is correct, and I think he is, then you should be able to get video of Islamic intolerance.
All the technology for hidden cameras and microphones is cheap. Altering your appearance is not difficult either if you don't want to be identified. Be a hero, get some video of these Muslim thugs acting like racist yobs.
Posted by: James Martel at January 7, 2008 8:05 PM
UKTODAY; in a free society your concept would suggest that any particular individual would be roaming around in a homogeneous sea of 116 different types, not necessarily in equal numbers.
When you throw in the rigid religious factor, some types would of necessity need to sublimate their natural personalities for self preservation.
Would you agree that the more violent the repression, the more likely individuals would be to act in a peer accepted manner rather than their natural inclination? A perfect reason to build a repressive and violent religious protocol?
at January 7, 2008 8:15 PM
The nice thing is that Nazir-Ali is not alone.
If you read the various Telegraph articles on the Nazir-Ali saga, you will see that he has backing. For example -
"the Bishop's concerns are shared by other members of the General Synod.
"The Rt Rev Nicholas Reade, the Bishop of Blackburn, which has a large Muslim community, said that it was increasingly difficult for Christians to share their faith in areas where there was a high proportion of immigrants of other faiths" [I'll bet the real problem is the Muslims!].
Reade is cited, but note that the report said 'other members' (i.e. Reade is not the only one).
Then there is Bp Patrick Sookhdeo.
Nazir-Ali is the child of apostates - people who left Islam and became Christians.
Sookhdeo is an out-and-out apostate - raised a Muslim to Pakistani parents in Suriname, he went to England to study, and there converted to Christianity. (Nice touch that he chose to take as his 'christian' name 'Patrick', in honour of the patron saint and first evangeliser of Ireland!).
He, too, is straight down the line about the Jihad-and-infiltration threat - just read the articles on his 'Barnabas Fund' website, or read his masterly deconstruction of the deceit and doublespeak of that 'letter from the Muslims to the Christians' aka 'a common word', which made so many naive Christians so foolishly delighted, in October this year. Robert Spencer himself could hardly have done a better job.
Sookhdeo was in Australia last year, talking to a big Church Missionary Society summer school conference - and telling it straight to all attenders, about Islam.
Perhaps the Archbishop of Canterbury should receive letters from all over the worldwide Anglican communion, including from Episcopalians in the USA (any Episcopalians reading here?), expressing support for Bishops Nazir-Ali, Sookhdeo and Reade, and perhaps giving him some background information on the dhimma, and the ways in which Islam, in the past, has interfered with, and generally corrupted and subverted, the leadership of non-Muslim faith communities within the Ummah (I think there are examples in Bat Yeor's books, that could be cited).
He should be urged to steadfastly support his bishops; to refuse to rebuke them, query their judgement, or worse, fire them, at Muslim behest; and under no circumstances to do Muslim bidding, or cave to Muslim demands, since this is tantamount to giving in to blackmail.
Thomas of Canterbury and Thomas More died, when it comes down to it, in the name of the then-inchoate separation of church and state. Well: it must be declared there is a clear separation, too, between the church and the Ummah, and that members of the Ummah have no right to dictate who shall or shall not hold office in the Church of England.
By the way - wasn't it Ajmal Masroor, he who in the article posted above is demanding that the Church of England "take serious action" [tr: fire Bishop Nazir-Ali], who wrote a horrid little sneer in the Guardian, expressing astonishment and disapproval over Blair's conversion to Catholicism (how dare someone choose a faith so *obviously* inferior to wonderful, wonderful Islam?!)?
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at January 7, 2008 9:30 PM
Note to James Martel -
if people are really serious about flushing out Muslim aggression toward non-Muslims in the 'no-go' areas under discussion, I can think of some possibilities.
There are people who do something called the "Jesus March". It might be possible to contact them and see whether they're game to try doing one of those through, say, East London. (Salt the march with people who have cool heads and are trained in self-defence and/or the various Asian martial arts; bring your dogs).
Another possibility - it might be fun for concerned local Christians - and non-Christians, too - to research the existing Anglican and/ or Catholic parish boundaries within all areas suspected of having become Muslim turf off-limits to Infidels, and then get together a LARGE party of persons, all male, to carry out the ancient English custom of 'beating the bounds', normally done on Ascension Day.
See the following links:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A805871
and Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beating_the_bounds
for some intriguing descriptions of the origins and different forms of this custom.
It sounds as though it is *exactly* the sort of thing that would get right up the noses of the RoP.
Do it - with large able-bodied all-male parties from all the Christian congregations within coo-ee, protectively escorting all the available clergy, plus reinforcements from every other Infidel resident in the relevant parish/es - and film the whole thing.
Let's face it: if a peaceful crowd of Christians sets out to perform a quaint and venerable English custom (as much pagan and civil, as Christian) on supposedly English soil, and the Muslims there resident rise up in a fury of rioting, then, Bishop Nazir-Ali will be proven right in spades, won't he?
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at January 7, 2008 10:01 PM
Reading the comments on the article is inspiring. Many British citizens are getting it about the supremacy glazed ideology of Islam. However, the Islamists are so entrenched and alienated that bloodshed will be on the horizon and the indigenous British youth will rise to defend themselves and their culture against the Asian (MUSLIM) youth already displaying violence as inspired by their so called religion.
This isn't the Mods against the Rockers of the sixties. This is the Infidels against the Muslim oppressors and alliances must be made with this awareness. There will be a much needed rebirth and appreciation of British culture for the spiritually hungry native youth of Britain and maybe even a rebirth of the dead Christian values along with some courageous leaders like the above mentioned Bishop.
at January 7, 2008 11:42 PM
@Posted by: U.K. TODAY. at January 7, 2008 4:51 PM
Sorry, but thats a heap of nonsense to me. Nobody bothers about psychiatrics' categrories in this world. If, then of anthropologists' categories.
And yet a greater nonsense is this with the evennes of all grown ups from the psychological point of view. The islam is one single collective psychosis (sorry if my engl. termini are wrong).
You in psychiatry draw all your conclusions out of tests, where moslems cannot be compared with nonmoslems. Just imagine: one says looking at a Rorschach-Test, that there is a man killing his daughter. If it was someone around me, I would say, he is insane, for a moslim from East-Turkey or Pakistan it would be only normal.
It might be, that this 116-stuff is an insider line that helps you, but its nonsense on the level of social and political differences and I hope that no one gets the idea of using it to classify political parties.
About your description of BNP thanks - but its useless to me - because what I said above.
I was wondering about BNP, because newly I have found something about them, that was somehow different from the Middle European rightist NPs, and was a bit amasing. But I think, that most political parties are looking for new orientations these days - all at once the world is changing too much. And I thought somehow, that some only tried to disqualify the blogger Lionheart by this alldged BNP-sympathy - nothing more was said about him in the given link.
PS: I hope, that nobody will make a sympathy for BNP or any other NP out of this posting, about me.
Posted by: Kybeline at January 8, 2008 5:22 AM
Parasitical wasps inject a little venom into their host along with the egg. This disables the host’s immune system which would otherwise try to encapsulate the foreign body. The wasp larva eats non-essential areas first, such as body fat and reproductive organs. As it grows it secretes antibiotics and antiseptics to ensure the host lives long enough to sustain the larva to maturity. When it has finally consumed its victim the larva pupates inside the empty husk, emerging later as an adult which flies off to start the cycle over again.
Something seems to have disabled Britain’s immune system. Muslims know exactly what to say, which buttons to push, to suppress resistance from their host. The government, whose prime duty should be to protect its citizens, cannot even recognise the enemy. Neither can the mainstream media. Worse than that, anyone who tries to sound the alarm is excoriated and marginalised.
There’s a certain grim fascination watching my country being eaten away from the inside, knowing there’s absolutely nothing I can do about it.
at January 8, 2008 6:28 AM
Being an Atheist, I've yet to be impressed with that many clergy in the UK. Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali seems to be an independent thinker, so he won't have prayer -geddit.
After the "Satanic Verse" furore, you should have seen so many Christians explain away the Muslims' calls for the author's murder. And then the same self hating shills wailed when the UK gov't defended Salaman Rusdhie. Sickening.
Well said, Mr Ali.
Posted by: ewha1 at January 8, 2008 6:58 AM
Darcy, thanks for the link to sonsofapesandpigs.org. These Coptic Christians have a real battle on their hands. I loved the entry "Blogging the Muslim mind" and will check back frequently for more.
Best Regards,
Presley O'Bannon
Posted by: Lt. Presley O'Bannon at January 7, 2008 7:50 PM
You are welcome, Lt. O'Bannon!
That website is available under "Links" on JihadWatch.
Oh, and thanks for protecting America! Much appreciated. Best Regards to you, too.
Posted by: darcy at January 8, 2008 8:34 AM
James Martel -
Yes, it is risky, but then we are at war with political Islam. Get some hidden cameras and go into these no-go areas and collect examples of Muslim intolerance. Post it on Youtube or one of the other sites and repeat.
Reading the following:
Britain, the country with the world's biggest network of surveillance cameras
. . .one would think that there is ample footage available already. Does the UK have a FOIA or similar protocol to access such recordings?
Posted by: justamomof4 at January 8, 2008 8:37 AM
Remember the Old Testament notion of the "evil messenger"? Looks like it is still alive and well in Islam.
Posted by: tanstaafl at January 8, 2008 9:00 AM
While you are busy thinking about the no-go-areas, I recomend you a study of the Netherland's Police AIVD (Like M15?)
http://www.nd.nl/document.aspx?document=nd_artikel&vorigDocument=&id=101415
It says, there is a new generation of radical muslims who are non-violent, but their aim is exactly to create islamic enclaves, no-gos for non-muslims, where they want to introduce the sharia rule. They are mostly 2nd and 3rd generation, educated, they take care not to do illegal things etc.
Try to find somebody to translate it into English because it is really remarcable.
Posted by: Kybeline at January 8, 2008 9:42 AM
Briars - Familiarity with weapons is always a useful skill. In the U.S. many households have firearms. My children have been comfortable with them since an early age. In Europe both access and familiarity are not so common. In the UK, I'd suggest checking out the Territorial Army as a possible source of arcane knowledge.
Posted by: MP at January 8, 2008 12:40 PM
Oh, and thanks for protecting America! Much appreciated. Best Regards to you, too.
Posted by: darcy at January 8, 2008 8:34 AM
Darcy, thank you very much, but I don't defend my country in that way any more, and I was enlisted when I did.
Lt. Presley O'Bannon refers to a Marine from history, but one who is still honored in legend, lore, and song.
Posted by: Lt. Presley O'Bannon at January 8, 2008 2:44 PM
I really don't believe the Rev Michael Nazir-Ali will resign. He's from Pakistan and knew quite well what he is up against when he said that.
Here's a horrible story of 16 asians attacking a boy in the UK and beating him over the head with a claw hammer.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=506825&in_page_id=1770
I've sent it off to Mohammed Shafiq, from the Ramadhan Foundation. Of course if it were the reverse, Muslims would be calling this a racist attack. We know these 16 Muslims are racists. That is why they did it. Look closely at the victims picture. It's plain to see.
Posted by: herself at January 8, 2008 3:22 PM
O'Bannon (do you have Irish ancestors, BTW? - I speak, myself, as a daughter of "holy Ireland", through my father's line; Strabane, Ireland, the birthplace of my paternal great-great-grandfather, is still full of people who bear the same name as the one I was born under).
can you give your favourite link for the legend of 'Presley O'Bannon' of the Marines?
One of the things we Infidels - of all backgrounds - need to do is to recover the memory of our heroes; and make them household words again.
Post script: here is a news story that hints at the reasons which may have pushed Bp Nazir-Ali to speak up. It's from September last year (I'm not sure if it made it into dhimmi watch or jihad watch - here's the link anyway)
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at January 8, 2008 5:03 PM
dumbledoresarmy:
Truthfully, I don't know much of my geneology. The family tree wasn't something my mother spoke about much. I was always more focused on building something that my descendants could look back on and be proud of than trying to figure out where my "people" came from.
Neat to have a connection to such a rich history as you do, though.
As far as links to the O'Bannon story, I never really thought about it. I chose the name here because the story was drilled into my head in "Customs and Courtesies" classes, over two decades ago, in a sweltering quonset hut in San Diego.
I looked up a couple for you though, I hope you enjoy some of the rich detail and anecdotes passed down over the generations:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/navy/dd-987.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6350/mameluke.htm
Posted by: Lt. Presley O'Bannon at January 8, 2008 8:23 PM
RE Danin van ; In every society, In every country, In every era, In every Ideology throughout the history of the world, the "docile" and "kind" have sublimated their natural personalities for self preservation. Thats their inner survival technique. Strong personalities and their intellectual cohorts will always dominate. The docile, meek and humble will always follow.
These points exist within every animal group.
My point to Kybeline was not a blue print to which I particularly subscribe myself, it was an attempt,(perhaps misguided) to explain that, although Islam is indeed an anathema to all of the free thinking peoples of this world. The fact that the BNP (in Britain), are singing from the same hymn sheet on Islam as Lionheart, its Ideology is not the answer, nor will it bring us salvation in our future. If you immerse yourself within extreme Ideologies of any nature, for self- preservation or otherwise, then to a point, thats the animal you become!!.
Posted by: U.K. TODAY. at January 8, 2008 9:02 PM
RE Kybeline: As my psychological forebodings about the BNP "did not help you at all", how about going to;
HTTP://lionheartuk.blogspot.com/
Simply to ascertain his views on the subject.
Posted by: U.K. TODAY. at January 8, 2008 10:17 PM
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