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The need to "safeguard" women is a common excuse for enforcing sharia law, and it is cited in this story as well. But does anyone ever stop to consider what that implies about their society's men?
Sharia Alert. "Malaysia Islamic State to Enforce Separate Lines for Women, Men at Supermarkets," from the Associated Press:
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — Malaysia's only state run by the Islamic opposition party will get stricter about enforcing separate lines for men and women at supermarkets, an official said Tuesday.
Authorities in the northern state of Kelantan — governed by the opposition Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party — will fine supermarkets and shops if they let men and women use the same lines at checkout counters, said party spokesman Anual Bakri Haron.
Chief Minister Nik Aziz Nik Mat has called for stricter enforcement "to safeguard the ladies" from being harassed and to avoid close proximity between opposite sexes while lining up to buy groceries, Anual said. "He wants the enforcement to be looked into thoroughly."
Kelantan is the only Malaysian state governed by the opposition Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party. The rest are ruled by the National Front coalition, which is made up of various parties representing Malaysia's different ethnic groups.
The coalition is dominated by Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi's United Malays National Organization party, which draws its support from the ethnic Malay Muslims who account for 60 percent of the country's 27 million people.
The Islamic opposition party, which has ruled Kelantan for more than 17 years, imposed the separate lineup rule as part of its agenda to promote Islamic values. In recent years, however, people ignored the regulation, and there was little enforcement.
Posted by Marisol at January 22, 2008 6:34 PM
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Better keep those tomatoes and bananas segregated, too!
And, Allah forbid, the cumquats and the carrots might mingle in concupiscent curds!
Posted by: profitsbeard
at January 22, 2008 7:47 PM
Since more women grocery shop than men, perhaps it is just a way for men to make sure they don't have to wait in line. Are the checkers also segregated by sex? After all, a man wouldn't want a unrelated women touching his food.
Posted by: diane
at January 22, 2008 7:53 PM
Does it get any more trivial than this?
Have the men no self-control,lol?
Posted by: Gramfan
at January 22, 2008 7:55 PM
No, no, no!
Chief Minister Nik Aziz Nik Mat (aka Chief Knick Knack Paddywhack, give a dog a bone...) has thoroughly misinterpreted his precious Islam.
He should have mandated completely separate supermarkets, thereby completely eliminating any chance in hell for men and women to co-mingle.
And that would be a good thing, because women would have one less reason to near this savages, uh, men.
at January 22, 2008 8:07 PM
lets hope it helps to reduce the surplus population of these wingnuts
Posted by: zionist122
at January 22, 2008 8:54 PM
"the cumquats and the carrots might mingle in concupiscent curds!"
-- from a posting by "profitsbeard" above
One question about those "concupiscent curds" -- did it just come to you, a happy trouvaille, or was it a deliberate memory of Wallace Stevens?
It's hard to say which would be better.
at January 22, 2008 9:09 PM
profitsbeard and Hugh,
Excellent posts.
The Emperor of Ice-Cream
Call the roller of big cigars, The muscular one, and bid him whip In kitchen cups concupiscent curds. Let the wenches dawdle in such dress As they are used to wear, and let the boys Bring flowers in last month's newspapers. Let be be finale of seem. The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.
Take from the dresser of deal, Lacking the three glass knobs, that sheet On which she embroidered fantails once And spread it so as to cover her face. If her horny feet protrude, they come To show how cold she is, and dumb. Let the lamp affix its beam. The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.
-- Wallace StevensPosted by: Aiken Bryce
at January 22, 2008 9:35 PM
This adds to the collection of Stevens allusions at this site. They include that jar in Tennessee, and those complacencies of the peignoir, that late coffee, those oranges in a sunny chair. The allusive bits were presented as disjecta membra requiring some surgical stitching by the observant visitor. More work that way, and therefore more fun. Islam can drive anyone crazy, and one has to find ways to keep one's spirits up.
Posted by: Hugh
at January 22, 2008 10:25 PM
A lousy 60% becomes "cultural norms"?
It doesn't bode well for the West in the near future.
Hugh's posts are usually excellent, but I cannot ignore the fact that profitsbeard has been "on fire" as of late...Kudos.
All I personally recall from the Stevens reference is the term, "the emperor of ice-cream".
An excellent relatively modern work of fiction comes to mind. Not a brain buster as Hugh would put forth, but a worthwhile exercise nonetheless.
What book incorporated Stevens' words as a "part" of modern fiction?
Double points for whoever gets it first.
Posted by: awake
at January 22, 2008 10:25 PM
As a side note, Hugh is automatically disqualified from answering, simply because it is apparent that he knows everything.
Thanks in advance, Hugh.
Posted by: awake
at January 22, 2008 10:29 PM
Don't vacation in Malaysia.
Posted by: j_not_a
at January 22, 2008 11:12 PM
Awake,
I know I won't win your award, but this might help:
http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/Stevens/home.html
Interesting fellow, he was.
Posted by: boneshack
at January 22, 2008 11:17 PM
boneshack,
There is no award, only double points. The reference to Wallace Stevens is overt in this exceptional novel of fiction, and also, well-placed.
Indeed, an intersting fellow he certainly was.
Posted by: awake
at January 23, 2008 12:30 AM
A while ago a Saudi blogger wondered, not entirely facetiously, if the Islamic authorities wished to build underground cities where women could be incarcerated, "safe" from any possible proximity to unrelated men.
Islamic authorities in Iran dream of separate sidewalks for women. Separate sections of public transit exist all over the Islamic world for women. Separate swimming, separate eating, separate "education," separate entertainment, separate celebrations, separate praying -- there is no sphere of life where Islam does not attempt to force women underground.
Perhaps that is why Muslims also demand women bag themselves in the equivalent of burial shrouds when they do dare appear in public among the circling hyenas. They are simply reminding women that, in effect, they are already dead.
Posted by: Marwan'sDaughter
at January 23, 2008 2:43 AM
I've never been harassed in a supermarket queue. I must be very ugly.
Posted by: Silvester
at January 23, 2008 3:36 AM
...the women are really thankful for any excuse to get away from the Muslim Men....
Posted by: exsgtbrown
at January 23, 2008 7:27 AM
"the women are really thankful for any excuse to get away from the Muslim Men"
Good point. If they feel they have to seperate the men from women, the women must get harrassed alot.
Posted by: Elric66
at January 23, 2008 7:55 AM
Yeah, well seperating the lines does nothing for when the guy gets the one box of tampons that doesn't have a tag on it ...
"Price check, Aziz! Tampax Super Plus multipack, box of 64! No, no ... it's in the FEMININE HYGIENE aisle!"
Heh, heh, heh ...
Posted by: Lori B.
at January 23, 2008 8:20 AM
If muslims can compare Jews to apes and pigs, why can't we compare muslims to camels and goats?
Just asking.
at January 23, 2008 9:38 AM
Maybe this policy is an attempt to save women from beatings at the hands of male relatives or husbands, for being late in arriving home.
Mohammedan men will, even in America, attempt to cut ahead of a woman in a checkout line. It's happened to me. Picture a poor Mohammedan woman waiting in line while ten men jump in front of her, with her wondering if she's EVER going to make it home, before Abu gets there.
Posted by: Abscedere
at January 23, 2008 9:53 AM
Abscedere -
I hope you told him off for his bad manners!
at January 23, 2008 9:55 AM
Re: deleted comments:
If muslims can compare Jews to apes and pigs, why can't we compare muslims to camels and goats? - ImNoDhimmi
"Camel" references to Muslims (as well as implying they all smell like goats) are puerile and offensive. As such, they are also very bad for our site and its work, which has nothing to do with that, though that doesn't stop people from associating us with things like that which may appear in our comments. This creates more work for us, both in deleting those comments and rejecting their content when people attempt to smear our work with them.
And for that matter, the fact that the other guy is doing something wrong doesn't make it ok for you to do it.
Marisol Seibold
Jihad Watch News Editor
at January 23, 2008 10:01 AM
What about "pork free" supermarkets?
What about "alcohol free" supermarkets?
Keeping the boys and girls seperate is one thing, but what about keeping the dietary rules as well?
So many rules, so little time...........
Posted by: tanstaafl
at January 23, 2008 10:23 AM
Wait a mo...does this mean these Muslim women are allowed to shop ALONE, with cash and credit cards in their purses, without their male guardians shadowing their every step? However will the poor dears protect their precious honor from all those lascivious produce clerks, butchers, and stock boys??? Horrors!
at January 23, 2008 10:38 AM
Why don't they just punish the ones doing the harassing instead of those being harassed and everyone else in society.
They sure don't mind punishing everybody for everything else that's wrong.
Oh, wait! I know, I know!
Because then they would have to teach the Mo wannabe's to treat women like equals or at least with respect.
Posted by: Borg
at January 23, 2008 12:26 PM
Okay, I've held off long enough. Brian Moore.
Posted by: Hugh
at January 23, 2008 2:21 PM
The need to "safeguard" women is a common excuse for enforcing sharia law
Well, come on Robert! You heard the Grand Mufti of Australia. Muslim men have the mind of feral animals who can only instinctively react to stimuli. Long hair, exposed lips and naked ankles are like the wafting aroma of uncovered meat to stray cats.
at January 23, 2008 2:26 PM
Okay, I've held off long enough. Brian Moore.
Posted by: Hugh at January 23, 2008 2:21 PM
Typical to not be able to get anything past you. Even when you are wrong, you are right.
I was referring to part II of Salem's Lot by King, however.
Posted by: awake
at January 23, 2008 5:43 PM
Oh, my. I missed the Wallace Stevens convention!
Have had a lot going on lately...Anyway a favorite line of mine from his poem "The Poems of Our Climate," is:
"The imperfect is our paradise." (3rd stanza).
Quite a difference from the Mohammedan way of "thinking."
Posted by: darcy
at January 24, 2008 9:25 AM
"segregate men and women in supermarket lines"....am I in a time warp dating back to BC? Islam is so advanced.
Posted by: champ
at January 24, 2008 1:36 PM
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