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February 4, 2008

Malaysian airport customs seize Bibles

Sharia Alert from modern, moderate Malaysia. From AP (thanks to Lori):

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia - Malaysian customs officials seized 32 Bibles from a traveler, a church federation said Monday, adding its voice to a raft of complaints that the Muslim-majority country is becoming less tolerant of other religions.

Gee, ya think?

The Royal Malaysian Customs department, however, said it was only trying to determine if the Bibles were imported for commercial purposes.

Custom officials at an airport in Kuala Lumpur took the Bibles from a Malaysian woman Jan. 28 on her return from the Philippines, according to the Rev. Hermen Shastri, general secretary of the Council of Churches of Malaysia. She was carrying the Bibles for a study group, he said.

The woman was told that all religious materials had to be sent to the Internal Security Ministry's publications control unit for clearance, Shastri said, adding that he had never before heard of anyone being told to do this when bringing English-language Bibles into the country.

"It's getting from bad to worse," Shastri told The Associated Press. "This either points to a concerted effort to undermine the current practice of religious tolerance, or the religious enforcement authorities have been given a free hand and they are having a field day."...

Indeed they are.

Posted by Robert at February 4, 2008 4:21 PM
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Are they competing with Saudi?

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 4, 2008 4:28 PM

Why is it called "Royal"? Is there a king of Malaysia?

Posted by: Seymour Paine [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 4, 2008 4:31 PM

My God.

Barbarians rule.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 4, 2008 4:51 PM

..no more foreign aid to Malaysia...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 4, 2008 5:03 PM

Imagine some Muslim organisation was banned from bringing lots of Korans into the UK or any Western country, they will cry: Racism! Racism!...
The idiots when its them cry out "Racist" when its on their turf they say, its the rules!
SOBs these Muslims...

Posted by: Metroplex [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 4, 2008 5:06 PM

Christians and Jews can remain faithful to their God when Qurans are available to them.

I don't see Rabbi's and Pastors afraid of Qurans.

But you sure see the fear Muslims have of the Bible.

Allah must be a wimp.

Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 4, 2008 5:26 PM

An article on Malaysia that has not dated:

February 28, 2006

Fitzgerald: "Progressive" Malaysia


"Malaysia is, quite incorrectly I'm afraid, always adduced as an example of a progressive, forward-looking, prosperous Muslim state. In fact its prosperity would be considerably diminished but for its Chinese and Hindu population. All Malays are required to be counted as Muslims, and all Muslims benefit from a disguised jizyah tax on non-Muslims which is called the "Bumiputra" or "Sons of the Soil" system. Most Westerners are unacquainted with the "Bumiputra." But anyone living in Malaysia who is unaware of the "Bumiputra" system has not yet sunk beneath the surface of Malaysian life. Although the word means "sons of the soil," it is not the indigenous Malaysian tribes that benefit from the "Bumiputra" policy, but Malay Muslims alone.
According to this "Bumiputra" idea, all economic undertakings, all examples of entrepreneurial flair, must have Muslim Malays as their full partners. Two Chinese who wish to open, for example, a computer consulting company, or an architectural firm, are required to take on a Muslim Malay (but not a Hindu, nor another Chinese) as a full partner, with an equal financial stake -- even though he need not contribute a thing. This is simply a way to ensure that the Muslims can continue to live on the backs of non-Muslims, which is part of the traditional status of dhimmi, including the payment of the jizya (and kharaj, or land-tax).

The real "Sons of the Soil" -- the real indigenous tribes of Malaysia -- in fact are almost entirely Christian, where they are not pagan. These tribes of course, benefit not at all from the Bumiputra system.


Some indication of the nature of Muslim dreams in Malaysia can be gauged from the speech of Mahathir Mohammed, the former "moderate" president of the country. In his notorious address several years ago to assembled heads of Muslim states, he seemed to be advocating "reform" when he called for the harnessing of science and technology -- not in order to investigate the structure of DNA, or the Eight-Fold Path, or De Sitter space, or how to preserve biodiversity in both Wilsonian (Woodrow and E.O.) senses. No, no, what he had in mind, and what he called for, was a Muslim "reform" that would permit Muslim countries to catch up with the West almost entirely in one area and one area alone -- weapons technology. For that he was wildly applauded. This tells us a lot about him, and about the country which he ran, as does the Bumiputra system.
If Malaysia, that supposedly "advanced" and "tolerant" Muslim state, brimful of Western computer companies having their components made or put together there, imposes a disguised tax on non-Muslims, and if the best it can do by way of "moderate" Muslim is Mohammad Matathir, what does that tell us about the state of this “advancement” and “tolerance”?

For Malaysia -- Muslim-ruled Malaysia -- also displays contempt for the free exercise of the individual conscience. In Islam, once a Muslim, you are seldom allowed out. You are akin to a soldier in the Army of Islam. Changing your faith, or abandoning it, is equivalent to deserting from that army. And that is why, when it comes to Muslims and apostasy -- All Dare Call It Treason. So don't try to become a non-Muslim if you are born into Islam; keep it to yourself. And if you are a famous non-Muslim, such as the famous mountaineer M. Moorthy, a Hindu, your relatives may discover that unbeknownst to themm, the state will after your death claim that you are a Muslim and insist on giving you a Muslim buerial. And this posthumous "islamization" will take place despite the protests of friends and family, possibly the result either of your fame (which must be claimed for Islam) or your property (to be inherited now by that relative who did convert to Islam and who apparently swears up and down that just before his death, so did the prominent relative in question.

Malaysia is well-endowed with natural resources, and it would be hard to be poor with such resources. Still, resource-poor but largely Infdiel Singapore has run economic rings around Malaysia ever since they bloodily parted ways. And all those manufacturing jobs which made Malaysia a center for Western companies -- assembly-lines for computers, that sort of thing -- will likely move China-wards, where labor costs are lower, and workers more skilled. China -- Infidel China -- offers a much better place for those Western businessmen who are currently in Malaysia, but may find that they no longer wish to fund, however indirectly, the jihad being waged worldwide by Muslim economies and Muslim peoples. Meanwhile, the real talent will move to Singapore, which has no natural resources but has a talented and motivated citizenry that keeps careful tabs, through a whole series of legal measures, on the spread of Islam in the country.

It is also our choice, the choice of the Infidels, whether to invest in Malaysia. There is nothing like Muslim violence to discourage investment, tourism, trade, as the Arab states are finding out. Other than oil, there is no major economic activity with them, and what there is will be severely curtailed, including that easy money-maker, mass tourism. Sorry, Malaysia, for a while we indulged you. But unless you end the Bumiputra system, unless you cut your ties to the Arabs and especially the Saudis, we're afraid the business of Infidels more and more will have to go elsewhere. Nothing personal; it's just that our executives feel a bit uneasy in your country. All that kidnapping, and those bloody videos, and so on. All of that may hasten the day when it becomes time for non-Arab Muslims in Malaysia and elsewhere, to reconsider the Arab cultural and linguistic imperialism, an Arab imperialism about which the apostates (such as Anwar Shaikh) have often written, and a problem that resonates in Kurdish and Berber hearts and minds, for they have had to endure that imperialism directly from the Arabs, and not from a distance, as do the Muslims of East Asia. And there are, here and there, signs that some Malaysians who have traveled to Arab lands, and especially to the oil states, did not feel an immediate oneness with these arrogant Arab fellow members of the umma al-islamiyya, and in fact, were distinctly uneasy at what they saw, especially in Saudi Arabia. And that unease could lead to a greater consciousness of Islam as the vehicle for forcible, or voluntary, arabization, that it always was. And an independent Kurdistan, of course, would do much to raise the consciousness of non-Arab Muslims about this matter of Arab supremasist ideology within Islam, and such a raising (raise that mental roofbeam high, carpenters!) can only increase the desire of at least the most morally aware non-Arab Muslims to distinguish themselves from from the Arabs.

Meanwhile, Badawi follows Mahathir, and Malaysians keep thinking that their economy shows what can be done by a Muslim country, not what can be done by a Muslim-ruled country that is half-populated by energetic non-Muslims, who work not only for themselves, but for the Muslim half of the population. Meanwhile, in Malaysia, keep on tapping those rubber-trees, and supplying those spices. They will last, long after the computer companies have packed up and moved to China or to India. And remember to keep supplying that special wood for what trade remains in those Penang lawyers that S. J. Perelman was so fond of mentioning. That should keep your economy afloat."

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 4, 2008 5:48 PM

Of course they're seizing Bibles- Islam sees Christianity and the Bible as the greatest danger to them- and it is. Christianity gives people hope, where there is none in Islam.

Posted by: s [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 4, 2008 7:00 PM

Bibles. Yes, they are a problem for Muslims, aren't they?

It used to be the same in the old Soviet days, for Bibles were seized at the Soviet borders. In those antediluvian days, there existed a samaritan organization, supported indirectly by the American taxpayer, that worked mainly out of Belgium. This organization would print very small onion-skin Bibles in Russian (or Church Slavonic), so small that when they were given to willing Soviet tourists, it was not hard to smuggle them back into the Soviet Union, and there were other ways to transport those Bibles as well.

There was a group called the Russian Student Christian Movement ("Russkoye Studentcheskoye Khristianskoye Dvizhenie"), referred to by its initials as -- more or less -- erresshayday, and there were highly intelligent Russian-speaking Orthodox priests, and even Russian-speaking Catholic priests (such as Father Aleksey at what was the "Internat Saint Georges" in Meudon) who was somehow connected. There was a small office at rue Olivier des Serres, with a Mme. Loukine. There was the descendant of Buffalo Bill Cody, who worked, apparently, for was a place, a small office, on rue Olivier des Serres, and not everyone associated with that effort is dead. It was money well-spent by the American government, for it was understood that Bibles could undremine the regime. And those Bibles -- just like the special "Editions de Seine" versions of "Invitation to a Beheading" and "The Luzhin Defense," and all kinds of other works republished, unbeknownst to themselves, by American taxpayers, all played their part.

Time to reconsider how that all worked. Time to do it all again, but this time with a different, much more menacing ideological enemy.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 4, 2008 7:16 PM

Another good article on Malaysia:

http://www.westernresistance.com/

(4th Feb., scroll down if necessary)

Posted by: Silvester [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 4, 2008 8:54 PM

Ignorance is strength.

Mohammad's first dictum.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 4, 2008 10:54 PM

What is happening in Nigeria will happen everywhere else if people do not wake to the danger that threatens the very existence of their freedom.

Posted by: Christian [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 4, 2008 11:12 PM

I just had a sickening thought. Today it is Muslims in the UK. Tomorow it will be Mormon Fundamentalists in the USA. If polygamy is legalized here, cult leaders like Warren Jeffs will be very happy.

Posted by: Christian [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 4, 2008 11:17 PM

It feels oddly to say this, what with being an unbeliever and all, but it may well be that Christianity and the bible -- with their pervasive separation between church and state, the sacred and the profane -- are the strongest ideological weapon available against totalitarianism.

Posted by: joeblough [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2008 4:08 AM

Malaysia once again makes my travel choices easier. Why stop over in that rabid sharia state when one can just fly into Singapore and stay in the 21st century.

Posted by: payingattention [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2008 4:26 AM

What!? You were thinking that they were going to seize copies of the Qur'an? Perhaps Allah is a jealous god as well.

Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2008 11:59 AM

LOL - the authorities are now giving this spin "The Royal Malaysian Customs department, however, said it was only trying to determine if the Bibles were imported for commercial purposes."
to avoid having to explain the rationale for the fiasco - and hide the real and reasonable possibility that the Malaysian government's Islamization push to inculcate Islamic values have turn many of the Muslim bureaucrats into anti-non-Islamic Muslim bigots and zealots.

It is my understanding that there are no custom import duties/sales tax for books brought into Malaysia, so whether the English Bibles were imported for commercial purposes or not was immaterial and the reason they gave to the press insults our intelligence. For list of dutiable and non-dutiable items, refer the Malaysian Custom website at http://www.customs.gov.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=46&Itemid=28
which clearly stated that Printed books, newspapers, magazines and journals are non-dutiable.

Posted by: Nicolei [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2008 12:25 PM

They can destroy the written Word but God is always in control and He always has the last word.

Daniel 5 Verses 5-6:
Suddenly the fingers of a human hand appeared and wrote on the plaster of the wall, near the lampstand in the royal palace. The king watched the hand as it wrote. His face turned pale and he was so frightened that his knees knocked together and his legs gave way.

Writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN

God spoke to
Job out of a whirlwind.
Joseph in dreams.
Moses from a burning bush.
Samuel in a voice in the night.
Elijah a still, small voice.
and to Daniel in a vision.
And let’s not forget how God spoke through a donkey
Numbers 22
Then the Lord opened the donkey's mouth. It said to Balaam, "What have I done to you? Why did you hit me those three times?"

So if God can use a jack ass, I need only to say

Allah is a wimp and his slaves are fools.

Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2008 3:39 PM

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