"Who will deliver justice to Christians in Pakistan?'

Don't count on Muslims to deliver. The west should make a deal. Take the Christians in from everywhere if Pakistan & others take all our Muslims. Fair ain't it?

Posted by: Sounder at February 6, 2008 3:22 PM

And they can take their filthy culture with them

A long post but reveals something many are not aware of.

Whereas the article would like us to believe it is the "hoodies" that are responsible (and some may be) but clearly the REAL group that has repeatedly been caught and convicted for dog fighting is

you guessed it

MOSLEMS.

Below are for three recent instances of muslims gangs and individual submerged in the reprehensible act of fighting dogs:

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2008/02/moslem-what-have-you-to-say-to-this.html

Posted by: shiva at February 6, 2008 3:39 PM

Nasseem,
You live in Lahore. Would you consider joining the protests against anti-Christian discrimination. I hear the ahmadi are really quite tolerant. I'll wait for your answer.

Posted by: RecoveringHog at February 6, 2008 3:50 PM

Assalamau Laikum Recovering,

It is not allowed in Islam to pray for Infedels. It is really this rise in Infedels populations that needs to be reduced. A smaller population may reduce the need for so many churchs. Many small ones in picture...but with lack of moneys and schooling facilities these do their best to educate childrens free as Madrassae..at the very least they learn to stay close to Allah. In truth then these church would be doing Holy work...as keepers of Islam's greatest treasures ...you would not expect any less. It is the duty of the Maulvi as custodians of Madrassae to show the light of Islam to childrens who want to listen and gently pressurise all who don't want to listen.

And Allah T'allah knows best.

Posted by: Naseem

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at February 6, 2008 4:18 PM

I am Pakistani Christian living in Canada and would like to bring your attention to a serious problem in Canadian embassy in Pakistan. It is almost impossible for Pakistani Christian to get an opportunity to present themselves in front of visa officers because the staff that processes and prepares paper work for visa officers is all muslim. Muslim staff make sure that no Christian presents himself in front of visa officer. Christians are only able to come to Canada only if their applications are processed out side of Pakistan. what a shame. shame on Canadian government.

Posted by: Crusader at February 6, 2008 4:42 PM

Naseem: muslaman kuta. Naseem teri maan ko lund maroo gandoo.

Posted by: Crusader at February 6, 2008 4:46 PM

Naseem gandoo, tun aur tera mohammad haraam ki aulad. mohammad gandoo nay 9 saal ki aisha ko choda jab woh 53 saal ka tha aur tun mohammad ko nabi manta hai. tu to gadhay say bhi bey waqoof hai.

Posted by: Crusader at February 6, 2008 4:48 PM

Crusader, you need to write to your MP, with details, to raise the issue and to get some action.

Posted by: Sounder at February 6, 2008 4:49 PM

Naseem, Christian God is not allah. allah is moon god, hence significance of crescent in islam.

Posted by: Crusader at February 6, 2008 4:49 PM

Spine-chilling.

I'd hope that every adult in that photograph is making every effort to get those children the hell out of Pakistan.

Posted by: Dane at February 6, 2008 4:50 PM

Meanwhile, the U.N.'s silence on this tragedy is deafening. I suppose the brave, hard-working U.N. delegates are busy drafting the latest resolution condemning "crimes against humanity" by Israel against the "Palestinian" "people."

When in doubt, blame the Jooos.

Posted by: US_infidel at February 6, 2008 5:28 PM

"Who will deliver justice to Christians in Pakistan?"

Errr, well no one actually.

Posted by: Ian at February 6, 2008 6:16 PM

Over at The Times, a leading article states "Have your loudspeakers. But not here"

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/daniel_finkelstein/article3315165.ece

Among the comments to this article, there are some from Muslims who state that Christians can have churches, so why cant they have amplified mezzuen calls in Oxford. Some Muslims bemoan why they should suffer because of Islamic policy in Muslim nations.

Please JW/DWatchers - go over and rebut some of the more obvious Taqqiya stuff- I can only do a few at a time before running out of editorial patience.

The Times is quite liberal in its editorial guidelines, and I have no problems in getting letters published. Use any display name and email that is convenient - The Times realises the danger from Muslims.

Posted by: DP111 at February 6, 2008 7:29 PM

Crusader

It is really not polite to readers, to write on this site in any language but English. If you as a Pakistani Christian feel very angry by the treatment dealt to you and yours, by your supposed countrymen, let us know of this anger. I’m sure we will understand why it has happened that even as a Christian, you find it difficult to forgive these oppressors of mankind.

Posted by Dane : I'd hope that every adult in that photograph is making every effort to get those children the hell out of Pakistan.

Not a chance our governments will let them in. Our governments recognise only persecuted Muslims in Muslim countries - only they can enter the West. Christians are just lying to get into the West. Besides we have to let Muslims into the West, just to show we are not Islamophobic.

Posted by: DP111 at February 6, 2008 7:38 PM

Crusader

Maybe you should write to your MP.

Also put in a letter of complaint to your nearest Canadian Human Rights Council. Give them something to think about.

HeeHee.

Posted by: DP111 at February 6, 2008 7:42 PM

Re Concerned Citezen:
Nice imitation. You could easily pass for one of the naseems

Posted by: RecoveringHog at February 6, 2008 9:48 PM

Concerned Citizen

I read the first lines of your Naseem post, and got startled, before reading more and realizing it's you. Cantor and you started a really good new gig - mimicing Naseem.

DP111

Agree with you - it's good to provide summarized translations for others. Crusader above is taunting Naseem for regarding the pedophile Mohammed as a prophet, refering to Aisha. Nothing much else.

I think he is reacting to the Naseem post above about churches moving people closer to Allah, overlooking the fact that Concerned Citizen wrote it ;-)

Hugh

How about having a competition among posters as to who does the best imitation of Naseem?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at February 7, 2008 12:33 AM

crusader, unfortuntly the state department almost always stocks it's foreign embassies with local majority. the minoraties don't get a chance for a visa. the embassy staff makes sure that their friends and relatives are well taken care off.

p.s. please avoid using "chat" talk in here. it ruins the debates.

Posted by: desidude at February 7, 2008 2:12 AM

Concerned Citizen - you played the part of Naseem SO well. My personal favorite: "gently pressurise all who don't want to listen."

"Pressurise", now that's priceless, LOL!! Keep those imitation comments coming, they're almost better than The Real McCoy.

Posted by: champ at February 7, 2008 3:05 AM

Oh,
"Concerned Citizen" has got it going on concerning Naseem imitations! No need for a contest! So funny! Thanks for giving me morning laughs, Concerned Citizen!

Posted by: darcy at February 7, 2008 9:47 AM

Crusader,

Would you please visit the website www.saintstephenfoundation.org and contact me.

I will be setting up an area for persecuted Christians to share their stories and experiences.

I would appreciate it if you would comment there when it is up. The site is still under construction.

I would like to learn more about your experience as a Christian in Pakistan.

God bless

Posted by: No dhimmi at February 7, 2008 11:50 AM

How about having a competition among posters as to who does the best imitation of Naseem?
- from a posting above

Fire away, here or anytime Naseem pops up. Wild slutty womens and all.

Posted by: Hugh at February 7, 2008 1:45 PM

Hugh - I would LOVE to hear your rendition of Naseem. P L E A S E!!!

Posted by: champ at February 7, 2008 2:18 PM

"Who will deliver justice to Christians in Pakistan?'

Don't count on Muslims to deliver. The west should make a deal. Take the Christians in from everywhere if Pakistan & others take all our Muslims. Fair ain't it?

Posted by: Sounder

Don't count on the west either, not these slaves of fortunes known as our leaders

Posted by: Sneakyzionistcrusader at February 7, 2008 2:21 PM

Isn't it wonderful, the "protected" status that these people of the Book enjoy?

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at February 7, 2008 3:27 PM

Assalamau Laikum Hugh,

Your Amerikes are all wild slutty womens, and you know you love them all, evne thuogh you will not most often say you do....even to a hot sexy muslima momma like me....and I must confess you can allowe me ot move to yuor Amerike home to stay. Your old wife will not mind, as Allah (pbunh) knows best and approves this message. We can make beautiful sharia "lite" music togethure under Allahs (pboha) blessing....and this offer is only good for today...not tomorrow or the next to come.

My shoemaker boyfrined does not understand me like you try to....and he most often hits me when I speka of you and my love for yo. So no more fooling around Huge....bring to Amerikes so you can forget abuot your wild slutty womens...I will make you forget....because your wife wlont let you.

posted by: Naseem

Posted by: champ at February 7, 2008 4:57 PM

champ

Not bad, but the real Naseem would have tried to convert Hugh to Ahmadiya Islam - after all, the deen has to be advanced, you know

Posted by: Infidel Pride at February 8, 2008 1:55 AM

Thanks, IP!

Posted by: champ at February 8, 2008 12:21 PM