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He's backtracking a bit, however. "Williams tries to defuse row over sharia law but refuses to apologise," by Jonathan Brown for the Independent (thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist):
The Archbishop of Canterbury has sought to defuse the bitter row over what he appeared to claim was the unavoidable adoption of sharia law in the UK by conceding that his controversial comments may have been unclear and "clumsily deployed".Whilst taking full responsibility for his part in the highly damaging episode, which resulted in calls for him to resign and sparked a disagreement with Downing Street, Dr Rowan Williams fell short of offering a full-blown apology and refused to back down.
Instead he insisted that the Church of England had a "considerable" responsibility to other faith groups and asserted that it was not "inappropriate" to raise issues surrounding Islam or other religions – comments that were immediately welcomed by Muslim leaders.
Departing from his intended remarks at the opening of the General Synod in London yesterday, Dr Williams said: "I must of course take responsibility for any unclarity either in that text or in the radio interview and for any misleading use of words that has helped to cause distress or misunderstanding among the public at large or especially my fellow Christians."
Dr Williams said some of what had been reported was a "very long way indeed" from what had been said in his lecture at the Royal Courts of Justice last week and in a BBC radio interview. He thanked bishops for their "support and challenges" and restated points which he said had been "distorted" in media reporting.
He said: "I believe quite strongly that it is not inappropriate for a pastor of the Church of England to address issues around the perceived concerns of other religious communities and to try and bring them into better public focus."
The Archbishop added: "We are not talking about parallel jurisdictions – and I tried to make clear that there could be no 'blank cheques' in this regard, in particular as regards to some of the sensitive questions about the status and liberties of women."
Good. Although how such lines could be drawn once any element of Sharia were introduced remains unclear.
Posted by Robert at February 12, 2008 3:27 AM
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The sheep-faced old goat is as good as any mullah in Islamistan.
His record is just as despicable as he is himself.
Even if we were to forgive him for his stupidity, his record is worse: Its not only that he's prattling on about sharia, if he had the power, he would be the grey eminence of the inquisition, all over again.
This guy is bad news:
The very, very despicable Theo-Nazi of Canterbury
http://sheikyermami.com/2008/01/30/the-very-very-despicable-archbishop-of-canterbury/
at February 12, 2008 4:44 AM
If the Archbishop of Canterbury is so clever:
why does he regard Islam as a religion and not a cult?
Does he regard Mormonism, Scientology, and Jehovers door knockers as religions to or as cults.
Presumable he does regard worship of the detestable god molech as a religion so does he think we should accomodate burning of children in the fire to molech for those who may choose to follow molech?
Perhaps he should use his brain and show the world how the quoran is as stupid as the book of mormon.
Does anyone know what the arch-intellectual of canterbury has said about these matters?
Posted by: exposesithlords
at February 12, 2008 5:00 AM
Ho Hum,,let's hope he thinks twice before he opens his mouth again.
Posted by: Gramfan
at February 12, 2008 6:55 AM
The Archbishop of Canterbury has sought to defuse the bitter row over what he appeared to claim was the unavoidable adoption of sharia law in the UK by conceding that his controversial comments may have been unclear and "clumsily deployed".
It amazes me the sheer number of Islam apologists and spokespeople who can't seem to "say what they mean and mean what they say". This constant backtracking and need to provide "context" for their words makes me think that BEFORE they presume to believe they should be setting policy for the Western world, they should get themselves some basic instruction in the trivium.
Of course, the reality is that their ideas don't stand up to scrutiny and when that is pointed out, they need to backtrack and declare themselves misunderstood, probably as a psychological defense mechanism, because otherwise they'd have to admit that their worldview just isn't that well thought-out.
Posted by: venividivici
at February 12, 2008 7:14 AM
This man has unwittingly achieved a great thing by bringing to the masses to ugly spectre of Sharia Law and forcing the media to report on it. Individuals who would otherwise have no interest or concern about Islam or its beliefs have just had bucket loads of information thrown at them. Yes he's a misguided fool but shooting himself in the foot has done a great service. This service would also apply to Muslims who have come to our land to escape the very thing he would welcome.
Give him a megaphone and let him chatter away, it's all good.
at February 12, 2008 7:25 AM
'This man has unwittingly achieved a great thing by bringing to the masses to ugly spectre of Sharia Law and forcing the media to report on it.'
I wish.
But now the 'backlash against the backlash' has started as the left-liberal elite establishment fight back against the People of Freedom who raised their voices.
I fear all it has taught them is that they must step up their efforts to dhimmify us.
We need a revolution.
Posted by: devorgilla
at February 12, 2008 8:27 AM
The Archdhimmi has learned well from his muslim masters. Like them he claims he was misunderstood; his remarks were taken out of context; he will not apologize.
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi
at February 12, 2008 8:32 AM
The Archdhimmi needs to read the Qur'an to learn what his new masters have planned for him.
It's not pretty, but it's no secret.
Posted by: tanstaafl
at February 12, 2008 8:52 AM
"I used a condom once. It was awful. Never again, it's nothing like the real thing. It's up to God whether we have any more kids."
He chortles: "It says in the Bible and the Koran to go forth and multiply, and that's what we'll do. It's Noreen, she finds me irresistible!
"I see my children as God's blessing, as a gift from God. Some people out there pay to have children, through IVF or surrogacy. I feel so lucky that I can have as many as I want.
"I want to carry on my family name and for my children and grandchildren to remember me."
http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2008/02/profile-jihadi-on-home-front-pt-4.html
Posted by: shiva
at February 12, 2008 9:45 AM
No, he won't back down. He's a careerist with a collar, protecting his career. His "address" which he appears to believe is too difficult for the uninitiated to understand, was indeed written in scarcely legible, semi-coherent prose of the kind many may have fondly believed is limited to the classroom and meetings of the Modern Language Association. But what is comrehendable show him to be a perfectly conventional inhabitant of that world of "post-colonialist discourse" (no, he doesn't stoop quite that low), in which Europe as everything to apologize for, and Christians especially do, and though he has alluded to, given mild lip-service to, the greatest of Europe's crimes, that of the intermittent persecution and local murder, over centuries, of communities of Jews living in Europe, and then the eager participation, by so many, in the German-and-Austrian organized mass-murder of European Jewry, his real theme is the non-white world, and specifically (and much-mistakenly, for Islam is not a race) the world of Islam, and Islam itself, for which he has expresseed such solicitousness.
It is not recognized that among those who are standing by him are people similarly situated, who sense -- correctly -- that if he goes, then their days are limited. It would take, and should take, a mass protest by Anglican Believers, who may at long last be willing to take back their church from the muddleheaded and the evil, who get away with so much because of those collars, that holier-than-thou piousness. No clergyman is, by dint of being a clergyman, necessarily one whit better than any layman in his church, and nowadays, the professional deformation that too many Christian clergyman of the world-council-of-churches sort, entitles us to be suspicious of them. The Archbishop of Canterbury, a man who is quite satisfied with himself, a veritable Podsnap (late twentieth-early-twenty-first century model) in thought, word, and deed, is the exemplar, but not a lone example of the type, the dreary type.
at February 12, 2008 10:48 AM
Why multiculturalism should be abandoned.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-rowan-williams-has-shown-us-one-thing-ndash-why-multiculturalism-must-be-abandoned-780710.html
at February 12, 2008 11:03 AM
Here's one of the best articles on the archbishop's call to islam by Christopher Hitchens, who actually read the dhimmi's whole speech.
http://www.slate.com/id/2184186/
Posted by: the poetess
at February 12, 2008 11:19 AM
If you are an Anglican or Episcopalian or attend a church that has leanings towards embracing this type of multi-culti nonsense, have some fun. When the collection plate makes the rounds, donate an envelope containing a copy of Rowan's speech.
Posted by: MP
at February 12, 2008 2:47 PM
Give me that old-time religion. Give me a preacher-man, who believes what he preaches. Lots of fire and brimstone, and Hebraic parallelism. That's the ticket.
Or if not that, then someone very very intellectual, far beyond the understanding of mere mortal rowan-williamses, so far beyond that he is only imitating a normal cleric, and uses his pulpit and his power to mold the minds of men, and defend everything worth defending, all the while outwardly continuing to appear to be just one more thoroughly-modern Christian cleric, with the classes in Buddhism, and yoga, and the church fairs, but for some reason, you note with pleasure, the pro-Palestinian stuff of the previous cleric the new one has replaced is suddenly gone, and there is a lot more about the Sudan, and a lot more about the plight of Christians in Muslim countries.
Let those new clerics, who are another line of enlightenment and defense, study up on Islam, and having taken the measure of the internal infiltration, slowly slowly begin to educate their flocks, in order to help them to protect themselves, and protect Christianity, and -- it is only a seemng paradox -- to make the world safe for the very skepticism and freedom of thought that, those clerics realize, also helped in a way to undermine that same faith that now must be re-offered, in a new version, a version that connects it to a cultural, a civilizational, heritage.
Posted by: Hugh
at February 13, 2008 1:09 PM
This brillyant item from the incomparable Iowahawk:
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2008/02/heere-bigynneth.html
Heere Bigynneth the Tale of the Asse-Hatte.
An Archbishop of Canterbury Tale
With apologies to Geoffrey Chaucer
1 Whan in Februar, withe hise global warmynge
2 Midst unseasonabyl rain and stormynge
3 Gaia in hyr heat encourages
4 Englande folke to goon pilgrimages.
5 Frome everiches farme and shire
6 Frome London Towne and Lancanshire
7 The pilgryms toward Canterbury wended
8 Wyth fyve weke holiday leave extended
9 In hybryd Prius and Subaru
10 Off the Boughton Bypasse, east on M2.
11 Fouer and Twyntie theye came to seke
12 The Arche-Bishop, wyse and meke
13 Labouryte and hippye, Gaye and Greene
14 Anti-warre and libertyne
15 All sondry folke urbayne and progressyve
16 Vexed by Musselmans aggressyve.
17 Hie and thither to the Arche-Bishop's manse
18 The pilgryms ryde and fynde perchance
19 The hooly Bishop takynge tea
20 Whilste watching himselfe on BBC.
21 Heere was a hooly manne of peace
22 Withe bearyd of snow and wyld brows of fleece
23 Whilhom stoode athwart the Bush crusades
24 Withe peace march papier-mache paraydes.
25 Sayeth the pilgryms to Bishop Rowan,
26 "Father, we do not like howe thynges are goin'.
27 You know we are as Lefte as thee,
28 But of layte have beyn chaunced to see
29 From Edinburgh to London-towne
30 The Musslemans in burnoose gowne
31 Who beat theyr ownselfs with theyr knyves
32 Than goon home and beat theyr wyves
33 And slaye theyr daughtyrs in honour killlynge
34 Howe do we stoppe the bloode fromme spillynge?"
35 The Bishop sipped upon hys tea
36 And sayed, "an open mind must we
37 Keep, for know thee well the Mussel-man
38 Has hys own laws for hys own clan
39 So question not hys Muslim reason
40 And presaerve ye well social cohesion."
41 Sayth the libertine, "'tis well and goode
42 But sharia goes now where nae it should;
43 I liketh bigge buttes and I cannot lye,
44 You othere faelows can't denye,
45 But the council closed my wenching pub,
46 To please the Imams, aye thaere's the rub."
47 Sayeth the Bishop, strokynge his chin,
48 "To the Mosque-man, sexe is sinne
49 So as to staye in his goode-graces
50 Cover well thy wenches' faces
51 And abstain ye Chavs from ribaldry
52 Welcome him to our communitie."
53 "But Father Williams," sayed the Gaye-manne
54 "Though I am but a layman
55 The Mussleman youthes hath smyte me so
56 Whan on streets I saunter wyth my beau."
57 Sayed the Bishop in a curt replye
58 "I am as toolrant as anye oothere guy,
59 But if Mussleman law sayes no packynge fudge,
60 Really nowe, who are we to judge?"
61 Then bespake the Po-Mo artist,
62 "My last skulptyure was hailed as smartest
63 Bye sondry criticks at the Tate
64 Whom called it genius, brillyant, greate
65 A Jesus skulpted out of dunge
66 Earned four starres in the Guardian;
67 But now the same schtick withe Mo-ha-med
68 Has earned a bountye on my hed."
69 Sayed the Bishop, "that's quyte impressyve
70 To crafte a Jesus so transgressyve
71 But to do so with the Muslim Prophet
72 Doomed thy neck to lose whats off it.
73 Thou should have showen mor chivalrie
74 In committynge such a blasphemie."
75 And so it went, the pilgryms all
76 Complaynynge of the Muslim thrall;
77 To eaches same the Bishop lectured
78 About the cultur fabrick textured
79 With rainbow threyds from everie nation
80 With rainbow laws for all situations.
81 "But Father Rowan, we bathyr nae one
82 We onlye want to hav our funne!"
83 "But the Musselman is sure to see
84 Thy funne as Western hegemony.
85 'Tis not Cristian for Cristians to cause
86 The Moor to live by Cristendom's laws
87 Whan he has hise sovereyn culture
88 Crist bade us put ours in sepulture.
89 To be divyne we must first be diverse
90 So cheer thee well, thynges could be wors
91 Sharia is Englishe as tea and scones,
92 So everybody muste get stoned."
93 The pilgryms shuffled for the door
94 To face the rule of the Moor;
95 Poets, Professors, Starbucks workers
96 Donning turbans, veils and burqqas.
97 As they face theyr fynal curtan
98 Of Englande folk, one thynge is certan:
99 Dying by theyr own thousande cuts,
100 The Englande folk are folking nuts.
101 BURMA SHAVE
Posted by: jsla
at February 14, 2008 6:36 PM
jsla
that thing by 'iowahawk' is b****y brilliant!
I know Chaucer - I did my honours thesis on his use of comedy. I think he'd be rolling on the floor laughing.
English posters and readers - please! - somebody print this out and accidentally-on-purpose, next time you're in London, drop it next to Chaucer's Tomb in Westminster Abbey.
Another copy could be printed out nicely in 15th century style Gothic lettering, handbill style, and attached (non-vandalistically) to the door of Canterbury Cathedral.
Is anyone...anyone? - game to dress in a medieval jester's outfit, get themselves videoed reciting this gem in a full-on Middle English accent, and post it on youtube?
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy
at February 17, 2008 6:21 AM
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