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February 15, 2008

Woman facing death in Saudi Arabia had allegedly "bewitched" a man into "sudden impotence"


That's nothing. Toto almost got neutered.

Witchcraft! Sure, that's the most plausible explanation. More on this story. "Rights group urges Saudi king to spare woman convicted of 'witchcraft," from Agence France-Presse:

DUBAI (AFP) — Human Rights Watch appealed to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah on Thursday to spare the life of a woman who was condemned to death for "witchcraft".
"King Abdullah should halt the execution of Fawza Falih and void her conviction for 'witchcraft,'" the New York-based HRW, adding it had delivered the appeal in a letter to the Saudi king.
"The religious police who arrested and interrogated Fawza Falih and the judges who tried her in the northern town of Quraiyat never gave her the opportunity to prove her innocence against absurd charges," it said.
"The fact that Saudi judges still conduct trials for unprovable crimes like witchcraft' underscores their inability to carry out objective criminal investigations," said Joe Stork, the Middle East director at HRW.
It charged that the judges relied on Falih's "coerced confession and on the statements of witnesses who said she had 'bewitched' them to convict her" in April 2006, following her arrest in May 2005.
Falih had "retracted her confession in court, claiming it was extracted under duress, and that as an illiterate woman she did not understand the document she was forced to fingerprint", said HRW.
"At one point, she had to be hospitalised as a result of beatings" at the hands of the religious police, called the "mutaween" in the ultra-conservative Sunni Muslim kingdom, it said.
HRW said: "The judges never investigated whether her confession was voluntary or reliable, or investigated her allegations of torture.
"They never even made an inquiry as to whether she could have been responsible for allegedly supernatural occurrences, such as the sudden impotence of a man she is said to have 'bewitched'."
HRW said that an appeals court had ruled Falih could not be sentenced to death for "witchcraft" as a crime against God because she had retracted her confession.
She had been condemned to death in April 2006 for "witchcraft, recourse to jinn (supernatural beings), and slaughter" of animals, it said.
But lower court judges then sentenced her to death "on a 'discretionary' basis, for the benefit of 'public interest' and to 'protect the creed, souls and property of this country'", it said.
HRW did not specify Falih's nationality but referred in its letter to the king to her relatives in Jordan.
In November, Egyptian pharmacist Mustapha Ibrahim, who worked in the northern city of Arar, was beheaded by the sword for "sorcery" under Saudi Arabia's strict Islamic laws for allegedly trying to separate a married couple.

Posted by Marisol at February 15, 2008 7:32 AM
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"Recourse to Jinn"...

This superstitious acceptance of unseen "beings" is found in many Hadith...and is the appropriate refutation to the absurd argument advanced by many that Islam is based on the "science of belief".

Posted by: Cornelius [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 7:56 AM

But lower court judges then sentenced her to death "on a 'discretionary' basis, for the benefit of 'public interest'....

Isn't that nice?

Posted by: adobe [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 8:06 AM

How many different way can we say, " they are so primitive"?

Witches indeed. Yet another excuse!

Posted by: Gramfan [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 8:09 AM

".........and your little dog, too!"
- Wicked Witch
"Run, Toto, run!"
- Dorothy

Women of Saudi Arabia! Run for the border! "Witchcraft" procedures are just a cover for persecuting women. Get out of there, post haste. If your "husband" goes limp, you can be killed for casting a spell on him. Talk about misplaced responsibility!

Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 8:30 AM

The Saudis might just as well execute Steve Martin.

Posted by: Shy Guy [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 8:45 AM

Is the penalty a hadd for “witchcraft” as an “offense against God”, or a qisas (equal wound for wound). Probably the latter, since man is worth two women and the man is now half a man, it's as though she killed her equivolent when he became impotent.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 9:10 AM

Influenced by music? Casting spells?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhMIF0fi9pU

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 9:31 AM

So let me see if I got this right: this clown can't get it up or keep it up, or
'finishes' too soon. So he blames this woman.

Is there no kind of victimization these 'men' will not exploit?

He should stick with the sexual partners preferred by 7 out of 10 Arab 'men' ... little boys.

Posted by: undaunted [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 9:31 AM

Shy Guy ... thanks. Classic.

Posted by: undaunted [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 9:54 AM

She should tell the judge that if he doesn't set her free she'll cast the same spell on him, and on her guards too.

Only a little OT: in West Africa, a speciality of witches is "penis-shrinking". There have been a number of riots and killings over the years about it. Maybe this woman has a West African slave she learned the spell from?

Posted by: ebonystone [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 10:15 AM

So let me get this straight,

If a young Muslim woman embarrasses her Muslim dad by not marrying the cousin her husband has chosen for her, she lives under a death threat until her family finds her and carries out the sentence.

If a young woman in Texas dates a young man who isn't Muslim, her Muslim dad has the right to kill her to regain his honor?

If a Muslim man can't keep his erection in Saudi Arabia he can blame it on some woman whom he says cast a spell on him and I guess since she can't produce four witnesses to prove she didn't do it, she's allowed to be executed under a charge of witchcraft?

Remind me again why Muslims are such a great addition to our society?


BTW, take a look at this article at Front Page today about Muslims for Obama '08.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=36308A44-DF3D-46AD-829A-4F63BA0C52F1

We're still dealing with the usual supects.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 10:49 AM

"Remind me again why Muslims are such a great addition to our society?"

Because they invented everything from the number zero to airplanes, because of Andalusia and to atone for our former nasty imperialist ways, and for diversity, and, and ....

http://www.muslimheritage.com/feedbackuploads/exhguide.pdf (prepare a barf bag for this one)

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 11:04 AM

Concerned Citizen

Nah-uh!

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 11:07 AM

Concerned Citizen
Funny how they all live in the stone age, isn't it?
They "invented everything", yet have an existence like cavemen.

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 11:23 AM

interestinconundrum - It might be argued that cavemen (and cavewomen) had a superior existence than Muslim women.

Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 11:39 AM

So, now when a male can't 'get it up' it is the woman's fault. When a male feels dishonored - it is the woman's fault. When a male (take note - I am purposely not saying 'man' - a man, or men, is not what these freaks are) has any issue - anything at all - it is the woman's fault.

Is it just because they just want a good stoning?!

Posted by: R_not [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 11:47 AM

..if sex outside of marriage is forbidden in islam

how was this woman in a position to cause this mans' impotence?

Posted by: ploome [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 11:53 AM

Well, apparently Muslims created everything that we consider good or wonderful on this planet, but since there is no laughter in Islam, there is no love in Islam, there is no mercy or forgiveness in Islam and since Muslims are slaves to Allah, nothing more, no one is allowed to enjoy the wonderful thing that Muslims have provided for all of us.

Maybe thats why they are so pissed all the time. Maybe thats why they hate us. But honestly, who cares?

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 12:06 PM

Forget all this nonsense; the Times is overjoyed that Saudi Arabia is getting a modern, Western style university, so I guess really great scholars won't mind risking a few beheadings now and then. Hey, maybe some Columbia profs can move there and write about reimaging beheading.

Posted by: Seymour Paine [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 1:35 PM

Islam is witchcraft.

Islam is Fitna.

Islam is Unbelief.

Islam is all the things Islam fights and rages against -- like Dante's Imperador del doloroso regno (Inferno, 34.30).

Posted by: cantor [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 3:24 PM

Witchcraft comes from the kuffars, little do they know that the cure for the spell comes from the kuffars as well.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 5:05 PM

Can we send witches to the ummah? If they make the men impotent it'll finally bring down the astronomical birthrates that contribute nothing but misery and trouble to the ummah in particular and the world in general.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2008 9:23 PM

muslim one..."What will we kill him for?...."

Muslim two...."hmmmmmm...just because...."

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2008 12:45 PM

Just thinking - maybe the guy got his first look at what was under the black bag and it made Mr. Happy turn South. Kinda like a blind date. Sometimes there's no magic in it at all.

I bet the guy got a look and it repulsed him.
I've seen some witches that have made me 'impotent' too. Gross

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2008 2:42 PM

He's impotent, so she's a witch. Straight out of the Malleus Maleficarum!

But, why am I surprised? Muslim men place more value on a...member...than any other creed of men.

We Don't Do That, Anymore!

Posted by: Abscedere [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2008 3:22 PM

Islam: spell check ?

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2008 1:26 AM

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